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EPISODE · Oct 15, 2025 · 40 MIN

20: Delight, Unraveling, and the Stages of Faith | Susan Bouterse

from Permission Slips · host Jillian DeBritz

“God wants to enlarge our terrain of freedom. He wants to bring us through so he can set us free.” -Susan BouterseWhat if paying attention to our delight is part of how we notice God's invitation into a deeper journey with him?This conversation with Susan Bouterse will invite you to expand your imagination for how God might be at work in your life, wooing you and stirring your heart in ways that "expand your terrain of freedom." Listen to Susan's journey through an unexpected career transition (from pediatrics to ministry?!), and to insights about the stages of faith—including encouragement for anyone facing their own "unraveling" or dark night of the soul. We hope you'll get a taste of the kindness of God through this honest, vulnerable conversation about how we've each experienced his love in tangible, embodied ways.Susan Bouterse is the Pastor of Spiritual Formation at Anchor Church in Tacoma, Washington and the Executive Director of Anchor School of Discipleship & Ministry. She trained as a spiritual director through Soul Formation Academy and delights in seeing the One she loves reveal his love to another. Susan has a master’s degree in theological studies from Multnomah University. She is also an M.D. and practiced pediatrics for over 20 years before being called to ministry. Susan and her husband Phil have three grown children and enjoy the beauty and activities of the South Sound in the PNW. RESOURCES FROM THIS EPISODE:Anchor Church: https://anchortacoma.org/Anchor School: https://anchortacoma.org/anchorschoolPrevious episode - Soul Companionship for Your Spiritual Journey // Kari MirroSoul of Shame by Dr. Curt ThompsonEmotionally Healthy Spirituality by Peter ScazzeroPracticing the Way by John Mark ComerThe Critical Journey by Janet O. Hagberg and Robert A. Guelich    * * * STAY CONNECTEDConnect with Jillian on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jilliandebritz/Want to reach out to Jillian about speaking or coaching? Learn more on her website: https://jilliandebritz.com/Sign up for the monthly Permission Slips email newsletter: https://jilliandebritz.myflodesk.com/subscribeSubscribe to Permission Slips on Substack: https://substack.com/@jilliandebritzBe sure to subscribe to Permission Slips so you never miss an episode, and please share or review this podcast to help others find it!

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