20. Rick Rodriguez from Walmart Labs: Creating design systems that scale

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Rick and Chris discuss deputizing evangelists to drive adoption and reduce fragmentation, contribution models and thinking about the areas to own vs. areas to share ownership vs. areas to give up ownership, using design systems to share innovation across teams, measuring design system efficacy, and more.Guest:Rick Rodriguez is Head of Design Systems at Walmart Labs, an avid runner, hand letterer and superfan of cappuccinos and donut breaks. You can find Rick on Twitter as @rickrodriguez, and on LinkedIn.Host:Chris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.Sponsor:Knapsack — Build without rebuilding. Learn more at knapsack.cloud about Knapsack and getting your team to 80% design and code reusability.Links:View the transcript for this episode.Check out the Amazing Design People List to discover amazing designers worldwide on this community-led talent base during COVID-19.