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Well, I should have probably tuned the guitar. Hello and welcome to Perverted Podcast, the show where we explore the adventures of the kinky lifestyle sex and perversion. Recording live from the Threshold Love Lab in North Hollywood, California, in front of absolutely nobody. Um, hi, Owl.
Permike's not on. What? I'm Kathy. I've been talking this whole time and I can hear me.
Oh my god, it's perfect. I don't matter. I'm... Hi!
I'm Kathy. I'm Owl. See now you can't even say it, and I am abyss. And there is Dell.
Dell, you're pulled the microphone down, so you don't have to do that, so it's right there in your mug. The house-seanger. There you go. Your house-seanger?
Well, we might drop that off at some point. Okay, that's how I'm in chat. That's very, very good. And then of course, you there playing Dofus.
What's being adorable? Don't, Dave. Don't, just don't get sucked in. They're giving you the life of love.
They're giving you each other like little heart, little heart-finger things, and oh my god, that was a horrible opening, Kathy. That was your idea. Why would you let me do that? Just spontaneously.
I'm like, I remember this chingling. I have any control of what you're doing. You just want me to make for us to watch you do that. That, I'm glad.
There we go. I am so glad. Kathy, why? God damn it.
Here we are. Show 201. This is it. 201.
201. 201. We'll celebrate 208. Is it 208?
It is 208. It is four-year anniversary. Yeah, my god. Kathy, look.
I got a suction cup. That was a bunch of vagina. Do you want some? Take that out of here.
It definitely smells like a vagina. You cleaned it. I know you. You want to trust me?
No. What? What? You?
Take a whiff. Never. That's a vagina right there. Who?
Is it Muzwejina? No, it is not. We had a partner here. And then I did some suction cup.
Because you know, you have the cupping things. You know, like you get the little thing. I do fire cupping, but this is the easy way where you just get the cupping kit and it has a little suction pulley thing. And then you put it around the cup.
And then you put it around the cup. That was on a vagina. You're putting it on your arm? Oh.
And now it's arm-China. Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, arm-sucking arm-China. You're clean, huh?
Right on my- No, he did not. I fucked the same vagina. I think I can have it touch my arm. Jesus fucking germaphobe Christ.
Did you just drop it on the floor? Okay, and now I'm going to put it on my head. I'm going to suction cup my head. Ready?
Let's go. Oh, thank God. Oh, you want to take a picture of that? Ow.
Ow. Quick. Quick. Got it.
I got it. Fucking off. Oh my God. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Look at that. Wait, wait, wait. That's the ring on my fucking melon. That's exactly what it is.
That is great. Well, yeah. This is just all apart for the courts now, isn't it? Yeah, I guess so.
It is that kind of day. I don't know how to address this. So I'm not going to- Just come out and say it, man. Oh, I'm just not going to be vague.
It is it is it seems like I will be leaving shortly. How that's going to work out or what is- Don't scare the lizards. You're not leaving. You're not leaving the show.
I'm just, but I don't think I'm going to be able to stay at this place anymore. We're going to need a new studio and a new place to do pervert a podcast. So things are getting dire. Things are starting to get really sketchy.
And there's of course a lot of manic stress about that. And there's a great support group. And it was so great. I had, like last night, one in the morning, I was just really, really just stressed about all the things that are going on and that are beyond my control.
And of course, it's somebody who likes to be a control freak when you're powerless to do things or you have other things in place. Like I could do this and I could lash out and do this, but that would affect this person. And I could do this and this would affect that thing. So there's just, it's very hard when you're an insane person to control a lot of those things, but you have to, because you care about people and you care about things.
And the overall mission is that you and I are around to help people navigate their way into the kink lifestyle, to explore themselves, to learn things in a hopefully safer, sane-ish and consensual way. And that is what the goal. And I have to stick with that. I have to stick with that mission statement because I get lost in my own personal issues.
So, but the reality is, is that things are very unstable right now. I have physical disabilities that make it very difficult to do certain kinds of work for certain amounts of time. And so I'm looking at training and things like that. So in the middle of all that uncertainty, one in the morning, I'm not going to say their name because they didn't get permission, but it was just so nice to see, like, I'm all dysfunctional.
I can't sleep and I go online and there's a new patreon subscriber that's just like throwing in a couple bucks and just a nice little thing that just says, hey, thank you so much for being a part of my life. And those are the types of moments that literally just ground me back to that it's all OK. Everything's going to be OK. I've been through plenty of shit.
I've been through way worse shit than this. Way. Let me get up into the microphone. Get really low.
Way worse shit. That signifies how much worse it was. So, but it is still frustrating and whatever. And I know you're frustrated and we had a conversation to where you have a lot of ideas that would be great for the show.
And of course, help us maybe generate some more income, which I desperately need right now. And a lot of that is a real challenge for me because the show is my like pure thing. And it's already a challenge for me to do all this patreon stuff and reach out. And I feel like I'm being inauthentic and trying to get money out of people.
And that there's a part of me that really fucks with me. And at this point, I can't be fucked with because I'm unfortunately vulnerable and fragile right now, psychologically. And that's hard to admit, as someone who pretends to be, you know, so uber, whatever the fuck I think I am. But that's the reality.
So, and we talked about that being hopefully temporary is, you know, I got to get back into therapy and different things. So, literally, the hierarchy of needs that you always talk about is real prevalent right now. So, so that's kind of what I'm going through. And so, if you're out there and you know of a small room for rent or a studio or somewhere that we could permanently be able to do it, because we'll do it at a denny's.
I mean, literally, we have microphones and stuff like that. I could literally get a car battery, Kathy. I could get a car battery. They do it.
You go to the third street promenade or downtown, you know, whatever. You see the entertainment street performers. They have a backup battery and they have their guitar rigs and their music and they have electricity. And they could do it.
And we could do the exact same thing. We could go anywhere with a battery, a couple laptops, a couple microphones and do it. Find a garage for us recording before that happens. By the way, you went to the third street promenade, huh?
No, we didn't. No, no, Kathy. Right there by the Santa Monica Pier. No, that's the three-part-out you went to.
We went to, it was recon. The podcast road trip, Kathy. Do you know how much I love the third street promenade? And does the Santa Monica Pier?
Oh my god. That you went to without me? Kathy, you're dredging. It's the past.
Let's move forward. No. Kathy, I told you, yes. I know you wanted to be on the perfect podcast road trip.
I called it the PB Road Trip. Let's go to the Santa Monica Pier. And catch Pokemon. Yes, but you don't even have Pokemon going on.
That's the point. The point is I was going to go? Yes. You guys go without me?
OK. We were devastated together. Yeah, and well, we went. It's not about a boat.
Yeah, that's true. That's true. It's not about a boat. Oh, nice.
So yeah. But the betrayal gets even deeper. Kathy, we just wanted to see how everything worked logistically. And now we can go back.
It's 40 minutes away. Is that the story you're sticking to? That is what I'm sticking to. And I told other people.
It was recon. Kathy. It was recon. We just went on a little recon.
Santa Monica Pier to see how it worked out. It was really nice. And it was very pretty. And now Kathy, I think it is ready for you to join us.
Forget it. I'm going. Oh my god. Huh?
Look, you said you can sleep. Oh, forget it. Forget it. Why are you blaming you, the cute one?
I'm the one who organized on this. Kathy, well, us, the outcasts just go on our own trip. That's right. We're going to have our own PP road trip.
No. I don't think Al got to say that when she was going to come to it. Shh. I don't know.
Hey. I have a giant cup marks on the head. That would have been a giant cup away from me. It's still hers.
I told you to put that thing on your head. Jesus. Jesus did not tell you that. Jesus did from the crop.
I'm going to do it. You know what I'm going to do? That's as easy as it is. I'm going to do it really sucks up here.
Could you just entertain me by putting a fucking suction cup on your head? I'm going to come in here. Sure Lord. At night when you're not.
And put it on my balls? No, no. And whispering your ear the things I want you to do. If it's that easy.
Really? And then you're going to do sleep suggestion to me. My mom tried to do that to me to get me to stop being in the bed. No, I can't actually do that because we're just not bleeding.
I don't know. She was drunk. She had made weird requests. Stop having those bleeds every night.
Every time you tell me one of these stories, crazy stories of your upbringing, I'm like, I understand. Why I'm saying? I'm going to be 50. I'm going to be 50.
I'm going to be 50. There's no expiration date. I continue to blame my parents. And that's why you're moving forward.
That's why. No, no, no. So what's going on? Delanger.
Hello. What's going on in the bedroom? They were wanting more levity. Oh, levity.
I was meant to know. Oh, levity. I was being serious for a bit. And then we got back to levity from Kathy mocking you for not inviting.
We were too serious. Then we got levity. So levity is like when you lighten the mood or something. That's the balancing out of serious and I guess so.
We have the grammar. We have the grammar. We have the balance. You're serious mood with a little happy fun time.
Oh, great. Ronnylin wanted us to put Unger on snoozing because he's sleeping apparently right now. No. He's in the chat when sleeping.
Yes. Apparently. He said he had some sort of class or something. Oh, I'm going to be caught.
Is he caught? He's better to go after him in that chat. God damn it. Kathy?
Yes. What is? Oh, no. Wait.
What? I'm dumb. It doesn't get under good. I'm stupid.
I don't understand why I do this. Sometimes I'm legitimately just messing with creative explorer. And sometimes I just do stuff that's stupid and it, you know, just backfires on me. So he got the fucking ego that is big as a planet.
Captain phenomenal? Yes. I know it's uncanny. I mean, you would never think so.
But he's driving home or something from somewhere and he said, I said, where are you? I go, where are you? He goes, I'm passing by Sunso Street. And I said, oh my God, that's right.
You just get off and that's where I am. Just drive a little ways down that street. Did you say big boy at the end of that? No.
I'm going to go down the street sometime. Big boy? I don't do a good midwest. And so he's all, you better not say that or I am going to cut it.
And I said, I dare you. You did it. I did. I didn't think he'd first of all, he'd take me up on it.
I thought I'm going to call his fucking bluff because this asshole needs to be taken down a pig or two. Next thing I know, he's getting out the freeway coming down to where I am and knocking on the door. My sister and her friends are in the backyard, having some wine and cigars. I put my head out.
I'm great at exploring here, so we're going to go into my room. Just don't knock on the door. Pretenders that there's a leave us alone sign up. Do not disturb bitches.
Needless to say he came in and made me perform all kinds of heinous acts on him. Oh my God. It was horrible. Oh my God.
My plan backfired. Your plan backfired. Sounds like it worked out quite well. Isn't it?
What did you just say? I said sound like it worked out perfectly for you. Are you insinuating that I had an ulterior motive? You did.
You bratted on... you bratted in Ford Momentum. What? You bratted someone into your place.
What did you say? Something like that. I can say something like that because the next topic is going to be that. Al?
Yes. What's going on with you? In your life. Oh.
Well, a lot. You've got around here. But I had a great scene this weekend, so that was cool. Yay.
What'd you do? I don't know if I'm supposed to... They want me to talk about it? Oh, okay.
I mean, I don't care about it. You don't have to talk about it first. We did some very heavy impact and some rope and it was fantastic and painful and I loved it. Hey.
Is this a party? Yeah. Nice. Very good.
Did you see this happen? I saw a bit of it. It was here. I could hear it from the main room.
I was like, hey, no! What? I said another side of Al that I didn't really know. Oh, you just called her Al?
Al? You said Al. Oh, God. You called her Al like Al Bundy.
Okay, you're trying to make something happen is not gonna... Whatever, I'm just saying. It's just like, what was that? It's just you.
It's probably just me. You look like you're having a seizure, boogie. I was doing old blues guitarist shoot heroin fucking... You're idle rolling back into your head.
The old days, the early days of jazz blues, those old cats and all junkies, it was fucking great. So, you were channeling when you made that jingle? For your peace of mind, please know that the author of every post we talk about has specifically granted his permission to do so. This is one of Boogie's favorite topics.
Stroke. Don't have a stroke. Wait till the show is over. You're like, bye, by having a stroke.
Okay, on the phone. You fucking child Jesus Christ. How old are you? Under 30.
That was pop by you, dildo Jesus Christ. Did you just call dildo? I called him a dildo. So old dildo!
Every time we need something, he's like, I'll do it. We only didn't even say anything. You just tell him to do it and he does it. And you're calling him a dildo.
Dildo. Dildo. It's a dildo. Damn it.
Ow. Come here, dildo. That's just evil. Let's insert yourself into the situation.
This one is called if you let a masochistic brat stay over by Princess Brat. Trigger warning. By Princess. Trigger warning.
Fuck toy L.R. Let me finish giving them their props before you start. I'm supposed to shut up. I forgot.
I'll remind you, every show. Don't worry about it. Thanks. I don't know why you chose this if it triggers you so much.
Because it triggers you? Yeah, because I like it. If you let a masochistic brat stay over, she'll want an orgasm and ask you for it by biting and trying to wrestle. She doesn't use words well.
Because she's a bit bit little McBiderson, you'll have to spank her. And after you spank her, she'll want to suck your cock. After she sucks your cock, she may or may not spit your cum back out on your belly or lean in for a kiss and dribble it all over your face and then try and get away. You'll have to spank her again.
After you grab her hair and make her clean you up, she'll probably have an orgasm from the set spanking while giggling, which will make you want to spank her harder. Why did you pick this? I absolutely love this post first of all. I knew you.
That's why I picked it. It's fun. It's fun. We've talked a long time ago about brats and how bratty doesn't necessarily mean shitty spoiled kid, which is what it meant for years for generations and if you were brat, it was considered a hideously negative thing.
In the kink world, brat can mean many levels of things. Brat can be very playful. Someone like you are incredibly bratty, Cathy. You are...
Oh, yes. Yes. Yes, indeed. We talked.
I don't remember when it was. I think Fi was on the fucking show. It was a long time ago. But there are definite levels of bratiness and, once again, depending on the relationship you you are in with both parties or however many parties are involved.
If that is what they are into and gets them going, then that is absolutely fun and wonderful to find the people where you have somebody that wants to do something so extreme in their brattiness and somebody who they get off on it. And they get off on that cat and mouse thing. And you and creative explorer talk about a lot of cat and mouse like before. There's a lot of taunting and whatever and giggling and whatever.
And then it goes obviously more and more extreme to where you start to hear things that you're like, oh, I fucking knifer. And so I thought it was interesting to find this post and see that this is something that they really enjoy. And I think that's amazing. Could I be with someone that does that level of stuff to me?
Absolutely not. And I have negotiated with people that are on a total brat. And once again, I come in with what does brat mean to you? Because every definition means something different.
So when you negotiate with people, it's really important because for the poster, this is what their level of brat is. This is what they enjoy doing. This is the type of stuff they like to do. But for some people, they make a little bratiness.
Oh, like a little make fun of me or say something or hide the toys or those types of things. I can go at that level. But when you start getting to the extremists where you're, you know, there's like, I think a thing in a biting my nipple and I swear to God, that is a red, that is a, that is a, I have no control. I will probably throttle you in anger.
Don't touch my fucking nipples. Mu's laughing. Mu has seen the wrath of hideously sensitive nipples. So don't fuck with my nipples.
That is not, not cool. You need to know these things in advance. Like, but I still muse bratty all the time and jumps around, jumps on the bed and throws things and jumps on your back and shows me your butt hole. You know, and just all of these giggly jumpy things and talk shit and so gets little spankings and punishments where, and that's great.
And that's our level. And those are the things that I'm like, okay, these things I can handle. So I kind of, when I saw this, I'm like, oh, these are things you need to really talk about. Yeah, you are a perfect example.
You can handle that level of brat. In fact, you probably have fun with it. There's a limit, time limit, probably you don't want to do it an hour. No, no, I'm not.
Yeah. And then anything more extreme just gets to you. So I love this post. And the thing, the odd thing about me is that I can understand both sides of it because when I'm a top, I don't like brats.
Right. They piss me off. Yes. Don't brat out or you and I, I'm not even gonna get angry.
We're just never gonna see you again. And yet when you're on the bottom. When you're on the bottom. It's so much fun though.
But it is only fun if I find the right counterpart. If I don't like pushing someone who doesn't like to be pushed. It's not fun for me at all. I find no thrill in it.
I'd rather be home doing the most boring thing in the world because that's just not my idea of a good time. So case in point, I was at creative explorers. And he bought a new board game, big fucking news. He buys one of mine.
Actually, yeah. I cannot even remember the names. I wish I could. For black and black.
I'll ask him well, but he says something I'll text him. He'll tell me. I don't remember. What did you just say?
What did you just say? What did I say? So when I started my, you're actually. That's not the last week when we're all.
My humiliation is not enough. I can do it now. It's not just an accepted part of the. It's an accepted part of the.
It's an accepted part of the. You can have more humiliation. I don't play well with humiliation. I don't.
So Kathy go ahead. While you're texting, I could give my input. I would love your input. So as someone who would definitely say I am a masochistic brat, I kind of wait to get to know someone before I play with them.
So I avoid being a brat while playing with someone who doesn't like that. So I just kind of figure out who I can be bratty with and who I can't be bratty with. And I'll just kind of dial it back or just not do it at all. If I know someone who doesn't like that.
That's great. Find out ahead of time. Also, it depends on what buttons you push because I know certain someone who is only bratting one specific little mannerism instance. They're like, OK, I'm actually annoyed.
It just gets my go every time they do it. And that's why they do it. Right. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. There's been times where someone's like, if you do this, then I'm going to do this. And I'm like, well, I'm going to do that now because I want you to do that other thing to me. Exactly.
Yeah. Don't threaten me with a good time. All right. So he's got this new game.
He's going to text me a little bit to tell me what it is. But he says, help me playtest this. Now, oh, God. It's a board game.
And I have a really bad relationship because I hate board games unless it's a party game like taboo or fiction. Or shoots and ladders. Hey, my little will come out. That's right.
We want to play for you. Game last six minutes. Huh? Last six minutes.
You're done. Onto the sexy stuff. So I said, what's play testing? And so we just take it out and we look at all the cards.
And we do it with all the cards open so everyone sees them just so that we can get used to the rules and you would have thought he was leading me to the gallows. I'm OK. Let's go. Oh my god.
Kind of like when I take you out hunting Pokemon which he doesn't want to. So we sit down at his gaming table now. And he's picking out his cards. And there's like this category after category of card.
And there's long ass ways to rules and little dice and little things and figurines. And I'm like, I'm just bored looking at this stuff. So as he's doing stuff, OK, this card is this. and this is pals over here, and I'm just taking stacks of cards and hiding them over here.
And this, he actually didn't see it. A lot of times we're goofing off and he sees me do it and you have a good time in that. He didn't see me do this. And he's like, where are the cards?
Yes, he starts going, OK, I think I don't think I got all the cards I'm supposed to get. I'm going to send this game back. And in my head, I'm like, oh fuck, I've gone too far. I mess with his game.
And I'm actually wondering, is this a limit? Did I actually inadvertently cross a line that I shouldn't have? Because I've never really fun. Do I own it?
Never really throw that challenge. Just as I'm thinking that I've got this look on my face, like, whoo. And he looks over at me and I'm like, wait, I saw that face. Where are the cards?
Yeah, I was so scared that morning. You managed to keep your poker face. It would have been fine. Yes, well, I'm an idiot.
It would be terrible for the company more so from him. Because any company where there's always like there's missing opponents will send them. Don't even pay us. We'll give them to replace.
Is that how we are? Oh, I think they're a good company, yeah. Well, that's a perfect example of even he and I who play together. Sometimes you may go too far.
You never know where those lines are. Brett play is a surprisingly difficult thing to do. It can be edgy even though it's something you don't get it. It's like chasing the wind because what happens if one day, like, perfect example with all this stuff going on, I am literally my skin is on fire.
My mind is on fire. Any needle prick can set me off. So like, Mew is just sitting there with me and you should put your feet all over me. So I can warm her feet because she's like a little iceberg.
And she has her, I don't know, she does something. She has my shin in between her two shins. And she kind of turns a little bit and her shin just digs into my shin a little bit. And just not even that big.
And I just go, move. And just, I can't, I couldn't control that. And then I'm like, later, I'm like, I'm sorry about the shin thing. I'm just very jumpy.
And then she put her foot on my head. Her foot that she walks around the love lab in and dirt. She puts her dirty foot just places on my head. And I go, don't put your foot that you walk around.
She's like, it's clean. I go, no, no, I know what's on this floor. That is not going to be, don't put your foot on my head. But it's just, you have to know when your moments are.
And if you're going to play in Braddyland, and of course, I don't apologize because I'm just, don't touch me. And other times that would be completely fun. Other times that would be like, really, ah, you're fucking goofball. And then, you know, spank or, you know, groper, you know, whatever we do.
So I think with anything, it goes on, you can't ever just assume that you can just go at your normal pace when people change psychologically all the time. And maybe where they could handle this, they just couldn't handle it the next day. Mmutation. Yeah, so it's a good idea.
I've never known anything that is, that seems on the surface to be so light-hearted and not difficult and yet is quite edgy and polarizing. You either love it or you hate it. I mean, you're on either end of the spectrum. You're nowhere in the middle.
Yeah, that's a good topic. I like it. I'm glad you chose it. And another reason why I don't like to come.
Because I don't want some bitch, but in my comeback. Oh my god. Yeah, that's the reason you don't want to come. That's it.
It's also why you don't get drunk at bars because you just never know. You just never know. Where's the thing? I don't even know.
What? I never made that mistake. What? How old are you?
Look at it, you're going, I don't understand. Where are you going with it? I'm making up shit. Yeah, you are.
Hey, we got, I don't have a jingle for phone calls. Wait. Get in the guitar. Get in the guitar.
Get back into the guitar. OK, OK, right, right. Phone calls. Here's a phone call.
A fucking phone call from some fucking listener. 4242262037. Hey, perverted podcast. It's Carrie.
I miss you guys. I've been listening to you at work. And I have to tell you, I've been staring at the screen at work during data entry and smiling like a damn idiot and snorting because if I laugh out loud, people will ask me what I'm laughing at. And if I tell them, their minds will be blown out of their fucking ears.
So I just wanted to say, thank you for what you're doing. Here comes episode 200. So that's going to be super awesome. And I love you guys.
No hate. Just love. Bye. I got so nice.
We missed Carrie too. I don't see that. You did some things to her on the show. There was actually a lot of fun.
Yeah, so we played a little. Not a lot. It was good. It was good.
See, see, and did you hear what she said? She said, show 200 is coming up. It is now show 201, which means. I thought we talked about this already.
Which means I am now closer. Only half of them. That was only a week and a half. So I'm getting better at checking it at 4242262037.
I'm going to give you kudos. Thank you for checking. That's very, very good. And now we don't want to check it any longer.
Give me the passcode and I'll do it. You have to edit it. I have to kind of boost the signal and stuff like that. I just said it to you and say, edit this motherfucker.
You could. You could do that. I'll give you access to it. You can do it.
I'll do it like that. Just do it. Just why did you just do it? Fine.
Move it in. It'll be a loss. I love that jingle. It's all old.
It's all old. It's a very fifties. It's a very fifties. It's a very fifties kind of style.
Yeah, yeah. These are the courses of people that did lunchtime music, radio. OK. Show us.
This is from you alone. Badkit in 89 who says, hey, guys, I've been reporting. I am officially a PPZAM. Yeah.
That's pretty cool. You send us your address and I'll send you a PPZAM button. We still have those? Oh my god.
I guess so many of those. We got to like inflex the people that asked us for it. Then they just tied away. But I've been a lass.
Lass is in Lassline doing his own stuff, man. You can only do buttons for us for so long. I've not seen them at the buttons, but didn't we have. Hey, now.
Yeah. Is Lass ever in the chat room? I've never seen him. What's his handle?
I don't know. Lass. Lass guy. Lass guy.