2019-013-ASVSv4 discussion with Daniel Cuthbert and Jim Manico - Part 2

Announcements: SpecterOps and Tim Tomes are giving training at WorkshopCon https://www.workshopcon.com Rob Cheyne Source Boston - https://sourceconference.com/events/boston19/ Austin Cybernauts meetup - https://www.eventbrite.com/e/cybernauts-ctf-meetup-indeed-tickets-58816141663 SHOW NOTES: Architecture is not an implementation, but a way of thinking about a problem that has potentially many different answers, and no one single "correct" answer. https://github.com/OWASP/ASVS "is to normalize the range in the coverage and level of rigor available in the market when it comes to performing Web application security verification using a commercially-workable open standard. "   #ASVS team: Daniel Cuthbert @dcuthbert Andrew van der Stock Jim Manico @manicode Mark Burnett Josh C Grossman   https://github.com/OWASP/ASVS/raw/master/4.0/OWASP%20Application%20Security%20Verification%20Standard%204.0-en.pdf https://github.com/OWASP/ASVS/raw/master/4.0/OWASP%20Application%20Security%20Verification%20Standard%204.0-en.docx   https://drive.google.com/file/d/17-NDN7TWdC-vZLbsKkkBFhrYmUhF6907/view?usp=sharing   https://www.owasp.org/images/3/33/OWASP_Application_Security_Verification_Standard_3.0.1.pdf - old version http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2015-046_ASVS_with_Bill_Sempf.mp3  - Older BrakeSec Episode   ASVS Page 14 - "If developers had invested in a single, secure identity provider model, such as SAML federated identity, the identity provider could be updated to incorporate new requirements such as NIST 800-63 compliance, while not changing the interfaces of the original application. If many applications shared the same security architecture and thus that same component, they all benefit from this upgrade at once. However, SAML will not always remain as the best or most suitable authentication solution - it might need to be swapped out for other solutions as requirements change. Changes like this are either complicated, so costly as to necessitate a complete re-write, or outright impossible without security architecture."   What are the biggest differences between V3 and V4? Why was a change needed?  https://xkcd.com/936/ - famous XKCD password comic David Cybuck: Appendix C:  IoT     Why was this added?     These controls are in addition to all the other ASVS controls? How do they see section 1 architecture and section 14, configuration --- in the context of rapid deployment, infrastructure as code, containerization.   You added IoT, but not ICS or SCADA?     https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_ICS_/_SCADA_Security_Project   BrakeSec IoT Top 10 discussion: http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2019-001.mp3 http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2019-002-aaron_guzman_pt2.mp3   Seems incomplete… (Section 1.13 "API")     Will this be added later?     What is needed to fill that in? (manpower, SME's, etc?)   3 levels of protection… why have levels at all?     Why shouldn't everyone be at Level 3?     I just don't like the term 'bare minimum' (level 1)--brbr   Threat modeling blog (leviathan): https://www.leviathansecurity.com/blog/the-calculus-of-threat-modeling Adam Shostack ThreatModeling Book: https://www.amazon.com/Threat-Modeling-Designing-Adam-Shostack/dp/1118809998 https://www.owasp.org/images/archive/6/65/20170626175919!TM-Lessons-Star-Wars-May-2017.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C7mNr5WMjA Cost to get to L2? L3? https://manicode.com/ secure coding education   https://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-usa-09/WILLIAMS/BHUSA09-Williams-EnterpriseJavaRootkits-PAPER.pdf Check out our Store on Teepub! https://brakesec.com/store Join us on our #Slack Channel! Send a request to @brakesec on Twitter or email [email protected] #Brakesec Store!:https://www.teepublic.com/user/bdspodcast #Spotify: https://brakesec.com/spotifyBDS #RSS: https://brakesec.com/BrakesecRSS #Youtube Channel:  http://www.youtube.com/c/BDSPodcast #iTunes Store Link: https://brakesec.com/BDSiTunes #Google Play Store: https://brakesec.com/BDS-GooglePlay Our main site:  https://brakesec.com/bdswebsite #iHeartRadio App:  https://brakesec.com/iHeartBrakesec #SoundCloud: https://brakesec.com/SoundcloudBrakesec Comments, Questions, Feedback: [email protected] Support Brakeing Down Security Podcast by using our #Paypal: https://brakesec.com/PaypalBDS OR our #Patreon https://brakesec.com/BDSPatreon #Twitter: @brakesec @boettcherpwned @bryanbrake @infosystir #Player.FM : https://brakesec.com/BDS-PlayerFM #Stitcher Network: https://brakesec.com/BrakeSecStitcher #TuneIn Radio App: https://brakesec.com/TuneInBrakesec