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Apr 18, 2019 1 hr 15 min

202 Guilty Instincts

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It's ok to have thoughts and instincts. Shaming them doesn't really work. We talked about that and talked a lot of smack...lol

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The following show is for Mature Audiences only. Listener discretion is advised, and if you don't like it, please go fuck yourself. One, two, three, four! Do you feel your sex life is quite lame?

I'm a bird in my house. Yeah, the jaw desires might be straight. I'm a bird in my house. Come and join the Kinky Wells of Play.

I'm a bird in my house. Ooh! What's a sharder one tonight? Hello and welcome to Pervourty Bondcast, the show where we explore the adventures of the Kinky lifestyle, sex, and perversion.

Recording live from the Love Lab in North Hollywood, California, in front of our perverted studio audience. Hello, Pervourty! Woo! Yeah!

I'm Kappy. I'm Dale. Over there we have! And I am Calabugi, and this is show 202.

That's 202! You're doing the math. It's 202! Yes, two off another yearly date anniversary.

If you do it backwards, you know what it is, Kappy? What? It's a palingrum. What?

Can numbers be palingrum? Yes, like when you sell them forward and backward, like race car, if you flip it. Like wow? Yes, like wow.

Or mom? Or radar? Radar? Yeah!

Hunger went with five letters. I would like to go three. It's pretty good. I love that Dale and Owl are here so often that they're now just staples, but there is a limit.

Owl's a staple? I can staple Owl. We did, please. Didn't you?

Did we do hook pulls with our? I haven't seen them for real. We did the two of them for granted. Dale walks in the door.

We don't even ask him if he wants to be in the hot seat. We just point. Dale, sit down. I was like, oh, I'm just down.

Well, you know, hey, look, they're here because they want to be on the show. But they don't get a choice where they're going to be in the audience or guest host. Or photographer. No, no, no, no.

Exactly. They do know because they know the rule. If they have something to talk about, they'll say, hey, I have something to talk about. And if they don't have something to talk about, then it's just, you know, origami just fold them wherever they go.

So, but I mean, I mean, I was like, hey, I want to talk about nipple pair of things. Okay, well, great. Then you know, you're going to sit in a hot seat. I want to talk about nipple pair of things.

I mean, I could. I have them. Okay. Cool.

You know what I want to do next week if Owl is here with me? I haven't used him yet and I got to start clearing stuff out of here. So I want to do a vagina temperature, if that's possible. I have two of these little things that heat up.

They're like little science tube, glass tube thing. And as it heats up, it fills the tube kind of transfer of whatever. And depending on who's vagina is warmer, it will fill up first. They should be a prize.

It's a race. It's a race. It's like a vagina heat race. I can't be down for that.

They could do jumping jacks or something like that. Look at that. I'm looking at her like all competitive now. And they're like, my pussy's higher than yours.

I've never heard you talk like that. She talks like that when you're not here. That's why she doesn't talk on the show because she's like, shire doesn't want people to hear what she it's that she has this really crazy. Yeah.

I'm just sitting just running around. I don't think we do that. Oh my God. There was so much goofiness this week so much.

But so much starting in spite of all the craziness and insecurity and whatever, I'm starting to kind of force myself back into certain grooves, you know, like sexually, I just automize me less nights, you know, she got out of line. And so I like that. She like that. She's got a lot of fun.

Gets out of line. You get fucked up the butt. That's it. That's it.

You get fucked up the butt. Don't you. That's right. Stop smiling.

It's a punishment. No, that's what Mew says. Okay. It's only good anal if there's blood at the end.

And I don't know. It was dark. And so I don't know if there was blood at the end. So that was really good.

Mew and I actually, this was actually really exciting. We went out to Redlands on Thursday and we actually, Mew and I together, taught a class. We taught a BDSM, like kind of question and answer. Here's the blah.

And it was real cool. They have like a sex positive group for their campus or whatever and they invited me out to speak and Mew. And so she was my demo bottom and we taught people how to give like little spankings and things and it was completely. Kathy, I hate fucking teaching classes.

Yes, I do. I love speaking on panels. I like, like, because that's like a podcast. Yeah, because I'm not responsible to create some sort of curriculum and then have my brain organize it and then try to remember the sequence of events.

But if I just sit down and you go, Hey, what do you think about this? Well, I know what I think about things. And so I can do that. But this kind of like, because it was just me was well, I got.

I got an idea. So I went down. I literally like 27,000 pages of notes, all of which got just fucking thrown to the side. And of course, I know it's going to go OK because I know that the group was a little bit prepared for me and some people send questions in advance.

Like really good question. We did one of them on the show and I met the person that asked those questions and they were really cool. And people got into it and they started asking questions and it like good questions. Not just like, Oh, what do you think about 50 Shades of Grey?

You know, but like just honest questions and and and the drive was disgusting. It was literally three hours and like 40 minutes to get 80 miles. That's a lot of the drive. I'm only telling me a lot.

And I couldn't even like you're going five miles an hour. I'm like, fuck dude, I can hatch eggs. I can have the whole way. But my phone got caught in the middle of an update.

Oh, no, I could not open fucking Pokemon. Go drive it. Yeah, but you can just set the phone down and you got eggs hatching and they go by how far you go and none. Oh, what a way.

Yeah, so we got down there. But it really was cool and it was good in all this craziness to just remember what I enjoy the most about kind of speaking with people and the stuff we do at the club and what we do on the podcast. But but it's just seeing people get excited about asking questions and maybe having some ideas and then you give them other ideas and opinions and and that gives them more kind of fodder to think about things themselves and come up with their own conclusions and stuff like that. And I just I had forgotten how much I really love doing that.

I don't like preparing curriculums and that was pretty much didn't work out that well. I think I got a lot of points across. But and some of them might be listening on the show today. So hello to to the Redlands group.

It was it was a lot of fun going there. But so it was good. It was good to kind of get myself into the back into the groove and so I really want to start focusing, you know, give me a little renewed Tiger Woods. No matter what you think about that mother I don't even like golf Kathy.

So just to be honest, why are we talking about it? Because you know, I've been watching this fucker, you know, because he was like the big champion in the 90s, you know, just like the super mega golf champion in the 90s. And then he like changed up his style or whatever and then started literally sucking. He didn't win shit for like fucking years years.

He went from the greatest golfer in the world to like really just dog and got all these injuries, back surgeries, all these shit, all the sex scandals and whatever. So like I said, whatever you think about him as a person for fucking whatever. But I always, I hate haters that are just armchair haters and there were millions of them. This guy's fucking washed up.

He's just, you know, he's never going to have it again. Look at him. He can't, he can't, he should just hang it up, hang it up. Just millions of comments.

And it was so amazing to me in my situation right now that yesterday that guy fucking won one of the big five major super golf things, right? And you get this ugly fucking 1950s green jacket when you win. And it's the masters. The masters.

Yeah. And it's the masters and at Augusta or whatever. I don't know. I watch it on Twitter.

I didn't watch a stroke. But it was just, it, it made me happy to see, because I love just like the second that last putt went in, you just saw, you just felt like the disturbance in the butthurt force, like the millions of people that were like, you fucking suck your, and that was my moment because I feel that way, you know, and, and I just say, what if that guy would have listened to all of those people that were stabbing him in the back and fucking with him and telling him he was a piece of shit and he wasn't going to do it anymore and he should quit and he should hang it up. And what would have happened if this guy would have just said, yeah, you're probably right. I just shouldn't play golf anymore.

So he's inspiring to you. Yeah. It's an inspiration you take comfort in seeing to see over the hate to see an old guy with back problems and whatever. And like I said, you let what listen to interviews, he's like, it's fucking dude, let's watch Grass Grow.

It's better. But just the fact that the guy didn't give up, he didn't quit on himself. He didn't, he just, he just said, I know I can do it. And he handled the disappointment after disappointment, after loss, after kind of getting a little better and then fucking floundering.

And but he just in front of millions of people that were just like, you suck now and why should just live on your legend and whatever. So, so yeah, that really had an effect on me yesterday because especially everything I'm going through right now, it's just sometimes you just got to not listen to the haters. Yeah, that is, I got to say that people like that, just I am in awe of not only are they doing that, but they're doing it in such an epicly public way. And here I am nervous if a couple of people see me fuck up.

And they not only get through it, but they come out ahead. Yeah. That is. Yeah, I don't know if that's going to work out for us like that.

I just like the whole don't give up and don't listen to other people all the time. I mean, at some point, yeah, we're going to win the. We're going to win anything. Could we win the soap?

Sweet, what? Oh, oh. He said, could we win the subs? What's that?

We don't win the masters, but the submissives. Oh, okay. He's the comedy wordplay. Oh, god.

Did you throw any axes this week? Actually Friday. Did you lose any limbs or appendages? No, just one injury so far as I've ever had.

All right, good. So far, I love how he says so. Still need to take half of that. Yes, we have to come up with that before I leave today.

We'll come up with another date. If Kathy could just avoid a crash test. Hey, hey, I mean, it's good work. I can't help it.

It's good work. They pay you good for that. Do they? You got that little yellow black symbol thing all over you?

But then I would do it more, but I don't get paid. I just get injured. And injuries are still there. Charitable stunt work by Kathy.

I will show you that these stairs are sturdy. Watch. Watch. I do it because I love construction.

That's good. I believe I need to put my life to better use it. I believe we just got to keep fighting. Well, when the.

Did you do anything other than throw some axes? No. Nothing at all? Not this week.

Last week. Oh, we did it last week. I went out in the desert and just got naked right around. I got to like, I'm going to come around like metal pins.

You hold on people. Oh, you did a bunch of hook pull. Hook pull, hook suspension. Middle of the desert?

Yes. Did you go up? Yeah. Nice.

I actually had something happen that's never happened to me before. I blacked out. Really? Ungurufucker.

That's an alcoholic, Gungra. I'm letting you know. It's pretty. I want to pass out once before from laughing.

Right. Wow. That's impressive. But yeah, I was like, I'm going to pass out.

I'm going to pass out. They're like, yeah, I'm about to pass out. And they're like, OK, now I went and tried to give me a chair. No, I woke up on the floor.

It was great. It was great. It's good. Did I take pictures under?

There are people who are taking pictures. I have not received them. Oh, it'd be amazing. We want that one.

We want dead-ungered pictures. We want that. We suck. I can put him on the show.

I can put him on the show. We're talking about a bit of that when Unger was in here. It's like, oh, yes, let's carve him out and sleep in him like a Tonfa from Star Wars. Ton, Ton, Ton.

I'm a Star Gate fan, not Star Wars fan. Well, look at how just fucking snoring me all got. Oh, I thought he snelt bad on the outside. Yeah.

Kathy, you got dick. Are you wearing dick? No. No, you're wearing dick.

There's no getting. It could be really. It was just... I actually got dick and I was a dick.

Full circle. Yeah. At the same time. No.

Thank goodness. One happened and then the other happened. Did it happen first to be like one of those dudes that fucking comes and then he turns into an asshole? Or is that me?

That's just you. Oh, that's me. Sorry. That's why he don't come on that.

I don't turn into an asshole. I'll have to try to come and fall asleep. Oh, it's a good thing. You're a guy.

You're a guy. You're a guy. I want an apple. No.

Hey, hey. I actually get permission to go masturbate and then he goes on his computer and plays games and I go into his room and I'm gone for like an hour and a half because I fall asleep right afterwards. He doesn't even come in anywhere to see how I am. I'm just going to see if I'm going to be asleep.

That's funny. Yeah, I was kind of a dick. I didn't realize I was a dick until the drive home got really quiet. It was a reflection time.

It was awkward. It wasn't just, you know, they came up with a picture of a black hole. That's pretty cool. Let's think about that.

Wasn't that kind of reflection? No, not that kind of reflection. It was more like, how much longer am I going to let this chick hang around? She's a fucking dick.

I mean, look, I can be a, I was going to surprise you, biggie. Hang on a sec, Kathy. Let me change my seat position. Get ready.

Prepare yourself. Prepare myself for this new. You ready? Let me know when you're ready.

Lay it on me, Kathy. I can be an asshole. I'm going to be like, no. What do we do?

No. I can be such a bucking asshole. Sometimes I can be an arrogant prick. And so combine that with me briding out and creative explorer being the kind of person like nothing phases him.

Sometimes I forget and I go too far. If you're not a human, I can just fucking have fun. Exactly. I got some new material to work out.

I'm new to degrading Bratness. Throw on the table. No, it wasn't like I didn't realize until actually I did realize it right after I said a few things and I looked back and realized I think I think it started here and then the next explosion was here. Then I traced it to the third explosion.

I'm all yeah, I was a dick. And so I. And so he just got quiet. He got really quiet.

He kind of turned his head slightly sideways and you just kind of hear hello darkness mild. Come to talk with you again. No. No, he doesn't let you have it.

He doesn't even give you the butter. He just kind of zones out. No, it was a weird. That's also a hard to do while deriving.

I'm in a garfunkel sound. The look sideways away from the road. Well, then you kind of just tell your head. I didn't say like a full fucking.

Don't go. Like an owl or something like just. No, that would be bad. Just like a glance off where you're not I'm not going to look at you directly, but I'm also going to take you just slightly out of my peripheral.

So now you're not even in my peripheral. That would be like that Kermit meme where he just turns just a little bit. I can see the center of the road and you can die next to me in that seat and I'm giving fuck your seat built is an on mine is awkward and I'm going to have to have a talk with him and say so about Saturday night. Yeah, I was an asshole or you just fucking turn it around and be like, you know, what?

You need to apologize about Saturday night and then he was like, what? I just fucking with the eyes of the dick. I'm sorry. That's the worst thing I could do.

I just need to be like, don't you think you stack the asshole as you apologize? Literally. And then just go and then because that kind of takes it away, right? All of you are giving me terrible advice.

I'm giving any. I'm just like, I'm used to. Hey, Dick tickle with your fucking emo face. You need to apologize and then throw him a melted ice cream sandwich.

So when he dumps me, I can blame it all on you. But he told me to take it out. You can play me out. You can preemptively bring up blaming me for things.

I always have worked for me. So now Cathy, you didn't you just let that kind of simmer? Well, I didn't realize what was happening. I didn't realize until he started making some faces that I've never really seen on him.

Actual pain. And he kept coming after me with trying to straighten something out because the conversation had gotten weird and I'm thinking to myself, why did he keep coming after me? And at some point I said, why did he keep coming after me about this? Let's let it go.

And then the drive home got quiet and I started thinking. And that's never a good thing when I started thinking. I started to realize what had happened and how the whole thing had derailed. And I was to blame pretty much for all of it.

And it was not a big deal, but it's not something that I'm used to with him. And I thought, I've never shied away from admitting that I'm an asshole and I've never shied away from fessing up to it and just saying that's what happened. And I apologize. So I got no problem with him hearing this and I got no problem bringing it up next time we talk.

It's just always amazes me, that I don't realize I'm being an asshole until it's over. Then the realizations just come bam, bam, bam, and I look back and think, what the fuck was I thinking? I think that's part of being an asshole. I must be.

I'm not taking away your ass-holeness. Please don't. But let's call it an ethical asshole or you're not good. You don't have asshole longevity.

You don't have the asshole longevity that can just keep fucking going. We know people that are relentless assholes and they can leave it and just keep that fucking magic going and just keep the asshole going. You kind of lose steam quicker. Your ass-holeness is like, I can be an asshole, but then I kind of lose steam.

You're clocking in clockout. Yeah, it takes a lot of energy. Yeah, you're just like, hey, this is a part-time gig for me. I can't do this.

That would be fine if I set out to be an asshole, but I don't. You turn this on by accident. Exactly. You'd rather know you were doing it.

It's like convergence of many things. It's a convergence of, I can, I've gotten used to saying whatever the fuck I wanted in front of him because nothing bothers him. I'm a brad and he likes it and we both like it and so that comes out too. And I just wasn't thinking that night and asshole is always in me somewhere waiting to just be an idiot.

And so it was a perfect storm, I guess. We've talked enough about this. I'm just saying I'm an asshole. You are, it's true.

It's very true. But I tolerate it. I tolerate it, you know, and that's, that's, I tolerate it because the listeners like you for whatever reason. So I just, oh, this bird and you bear.

This is the bird and I bear because I myself very, very, very, um, very just even keeled. Yeah, right. Just even keeled. I like that word.

I don't even know what it means. Wait, isn't the keeled? Yes. Isn't the keeled the bottom like the keeled?

No. I love a boat. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah.

Yeah, I think it's the bottom. So that's the bottom. So if it's even keeled, that means the boat goes straight. Which we do not.

Okay, see now I can tell there's like some boat people out there. I got you fucking. Where's your phone? I'm not allowed that when I'm posting.

Yeah, but also, I'm pretty sure someone over there could answer that. That's true. What is a keel? The keel is the bottom.

It is the body. It's kind of where it meets the point. You pull them under the bottom. The mic might, what?

Because when you keel a hole someone you pull them under the bottom of the boat. Oh, how? That would be bad. That's the part of it that I know.

So of course that's apparently according to Wikipedia. Even keel is when you're saying that someone is someone or something is under control and balanced. Which you guys are not. Nice.

No, we're not. Whoa. According to podcasts, it's very much not. I think we've owned that for 202 shows.

Well, Kathy, I'm very wonderfully glad that you are part-time asshole. And at some point you do, because it's icky when you discover. I mean, I've been doing so many shitty things and so many asshole things. And I know I'm lashing out because of fear and insecurity and I'm powerless.

And all that stuff. So you're like, and then you try to make a joke out of it. You're trying to be an asshole, but you're trying to disguise it. But I'm just being funny.

And it's like, no, you're just being an asshole because you're a bitch. While I agree that there's a limit beyond which, okay, you need to stop. I think that there's a lot of times that we totally excuse someone being an asshole when they're under a tremendous amount of pressure. And right now, you are under a tremendous amount of pressure.

Yeah, but once again, there is a point where people just say, this is too toxic. Yeah, that's the same as the line. It doesn't always have to. It doesn't always have to.

Excuse it, but you at least know why it's happening. To a case in point to our listeners, but you're still looking for a job in a place to live. So please keep throwing those out. Keep throwing those out.

They're sending me nanny jobs. I'm going to say, don't send nanny jobs. Nanny jobs. Oh, that's indeed.

Oh, that's wrong. That's a bad job. That's a having rate story time. No.

I'm just going to go ahead and not click on that link, but I do appreciate all the ideas that are coming in. Very nice. Salub, rate your badge because it rocks, but a needle. Why your peace of mind, please know that the author of every post we talk about has specifically granted us permission to do so.

This time we have a post called with a cherry on top. I'm ready for this post, by the way, by Peter Imperfect. I know you're ready. I'm ready.

I'm ready for this post. It starts off with he's talking about just a little backstory. He is a switch. I believe so.

And so he's talking to his girl. He's talking about the conversation. She says, bake me a cake. And he says, no.

And she says, but you made bread. And he says, that's different. Manly, me being a provider. And she's all them providing me with a cake.

No, definitely not. They have this little quibble back and forth where she's trying to get him to bake a cake. And he's given her all the reasons that he's not going to. And he says, she laughed at me and I felt uncomfortable.

I realized I wasn't as at peace with myself as I thought. I regard myself as being fairly in touch with my feminine side. And I have no time for the absurdity and childishness of what passes as masculinity in some quarters. So I busy myself pretending to understand my car's fuse box and a wiring diagram.

Manly things because I'm a man. A man who likes bonfires and knives and driving fast and women. I sulked as I peered into the gloom of the engine bay. I won't bake her a cake.

I won't. I'll wear her knickers and let her use the damn strap on, but make a cake? No, damn it. Far too threatening to my masculinity.

I have so many thoughts about this. First of all, I would like to say how much I love this. It's a great post. It's a great post.

It's a great post. I don't know if it's a metaphor for something that happens or if it was an actual situation where this was about a cake and whatever. So I can only go based on the gist of what I came to. And do you want to go first?

No, go first. This is wonderful in so many ways, but it's also sad in some ways because there was one light in there that you read where he's like, ah, I don't fall for that masculinity bullshit and I'm in touch and whatever. And what I hear is the things that I've told myself for years, which is you're trying to force the animal to not have animal instincts. It's the nature versus nurture aspect.

We're in a time of our development of our brain where now we have this front brain that kind of like says, hey, some of these instincts and this territorialness and this whatever you call masculinity because there is a definite in nature. There is a definite ideal of what this kind of thing is. And this is what we were for develop this way for millions of years. And now we're here, but now we have this brain that we've had for what like, you know, 100,000 years or something like that, pretty small in the scale of evolution.

And we're telling ourselves, we shouldn't have these instinctive thoughts or territorialisms or insecurities or whatever and that a man is or a dominant predator or whatever you want to call it is supposed to be this. And it's sissy to do this. First off, be gentle with yourself because your nature was there for millions of years for a reason. It helped us evolve to this survival of the fittest territorialisms, all of the pissings and stuff that we now consider archaic and negative and something we shouldn't have.

You still got it. It's still there. We just now get to find a balance of that. And so the public, because what I heard in his thing is, you know, public shame.

You shouldn't be insecure. If you're a modern man, then these things, you don't toxic masculinity in all of these things. And it's like guilt and shame. Don't think these things.

And I want to give an example of where that doesn't work. What's another example of something where society tried to guilt and shame and condemn a behavior and it didn't work? Being gay, being gay, you shouldn't be gay, being gay is wrong. It's a sin.

It's bad. It's nasty. It's hundreds of years of killing people and oppressing them and telling them they shouldn't be there. And why didn't it work?

Because if you're gay, you're gay. You're born that way. It's your nature. So there's a certain aspect that no matter how much you guilt and shame yourself, the animal is still there.

So I think that where I got really into this is how much time I abused myself early in my king career, because, oh, I'm supposed to be like this and this because everyone tells me I'm supposed to be this and this. And I went crazy over that because I wasn't. I didn't have, you know, I have all these, you know, whatever and how this is so stupid and I shouldn't be this and I shouldn't be that. And it wasn't until I started being a little more gentle with my nature and saying, hey, okay, now the goal is, is that I learn how to navigate this and accept this and be better and maybe find more balanced where I don't let this manage my entire existence in my life.

I just got a laser. Stop with a laser. You know, but do you understand what I'm saying? I do.

Okay. I agree with you. We've had these conversations many times on the show about that kind of societal pressure that's put on us and then the cognitive dissonance within us that both believes it and doesn't believe it. And this is why this is, I love when posts do this because they mean something very personal to you and they mean something very personal to me.

And from my perspective, he was being very specific about the baking of a cake and maybe, like I said, you should go back and read this to the listeners because it was a great post and he's his dominant is for his partners basically saying you bake scones, you bake bread, why won't you bake me a cake for some reason? Like logic, but logic. Yeah. Exactly.

For some reason in his own head that just absolutely that's the line. That's what he's saying onto. He's saying read on that. I don't know why, but that's the way it is.

And to me, I totally understand that because as I've talked on the show before, I have one of those things too. I love to submit. I love being having creative explorer be dominant over me in almost all aspects. And yet when I have a history with being a domestic service to people because over the course of my life, both organizing and cleaning and keeping a household have been some things that I actually enjoy doing and things that in my past, you know, this isn't the last few years isn't the only time that I've been out of a job.

And I was younger. I had lots of times where I was between jobs and whether I was living at home with my mother, whether I was living with my sister or anybody else. I often, too often, exchanged my services for rent or for other things. And while at the time it was a perfect solution, over the course of many, many years, it started to weigh on me and become very detrimental to me because it turns something that I enjoy doing into something that I now hated doing because my self-worth was equated with how well I vacuumed, how often I did the laundry, and if the bathroom was clean.

And that's never a good thing. So when it came time to hang out for a significant amount of time with Creative Explorer, a lot of what I wanted to do was organize his home. And I saw so many areas because of the kind of person he is, he just does not give any kind of thought to any domestic issues at all. And I wanted to fix it.

I see something that's broken or something that could be better and I want to fix it. It makes me feel good. It makes me feel good if the person feels good. And I had just tremendous difficulty doing any of that.

And when, and just like this, this poster says, I will, if I came time where he wanted me to do something, I told him there's absolutely no way I'm going to do that for you. It's how you right now take that off the table because it's not going to happen. And the more, and when we talked about it because he genuinely was interested to know what was going on there, I explained my whole history and it was a tremendous relief to get that off my chest to somebody who was genuinely interested in what was going on. And the minute that was off the table and he no longer expected it of me, I was suddenly okay with doing it.

So I feel very much like this guy in that I feel a little ridiculous because here I am going absolutely not. I'm not fucking cleaning your house. All right. Well, now I'm going to clean your house.

It doesn't make any sense to anybody but myself. And owning that ridiculous sense that you're making out of it is the best thing you can do for yourself. Just own it and accept that it doesn't, that is perfectly ridiculous to the outside world but makes 100% sense to you and just move on. It's just a thing and it doesn't mean anything else.

What I heard you say there is something that I relate a lot and we've had conversations recently and I relate on things about that. And the thing is is kind of how we, our mind interprets things I think I don't know. I'm a psychologist. I am a therapist but not a psychologist.

I love where you draw the line. Yes, I am the rapist. Yes, thank you. The day is mine.

The day is mine. The rapist. That there is a value, how we value things. We've been told that a dollar means a dollar and 20 pounds means 20 pounds.

Society has kind of tried to program us on what is valuable, gold is valuable, diamonds are valuable, real estate is valuable. But the things that are truly valuable to us, I think psychologically, are the things that don't have value to anybody else. So when society tells you if you clean a house you're good for 10, 12 bucks an hour in the states and in other places and in other countries it's either much lower or a little higher or whatever. So they actually put a number on it.

And now your brain interprets that number with a value that somebody else gave you. When the value to you, when you like doing that thing or it's something that you see is more valuable and more meaningful to you when you do something like cooking someone in a meal or in a restaurant they pay you a fucking whatever they pay you to cook the meal. But when you cook it because you want to, the value on that that gives you happiness, that gives you a sense of being, a sense of matter, a sense of purpose is way more, way more. And so when all of a sudden someone says, hey, do this thing and it has this value to it that is not your value, fuck you.

You're not going to devalue the only thing that's valuable to me in that. So when all of a sudden they take that value away from that and there's no more dollar signed to it or expectation, now once again you get to apply the value that is yours. And actually that is exactly how it happened with me and Creative Explorer. I mean, I'm giving you a very abbreviated version of what happened.

It was actually a lot of, well, I think it's this, let's try this and it wouldn't work. And then we come back and we start, okay, let me tweak that a little bit. And we went back and forth until I finally figured out what was going on. And I told him I can do, I want to do these things, but there can be no expectations put on me at all.

And he was like, I don't care if you don't do it. I don't care if you do it. You do what you want to do. And it was great because I started taking ownership of something that I enjoyed doing as something on my own.

I would come in. Something that was bugging me in his apartment that I thought needed to be reorganized. And I would set to doing that. And I would finish halfway through, run out of time.

And sometimes it was months before I would address it again. And that's, it was on my time. I'm the one who decided how I was going to do it, to what extent I was going to do it, how long it was going to take me. And I'll say it again, I was, I was taking ownership back of something that I loved doing.

And when I took ownership again, I started to enjoy it again. There have been a little stumbling things along the way, but so far it's been really good. So I understand 100% what he's talking about. For some reason he's got that thing.

And you don't want to move past that because this is exactly where you want to be. Then stay there. You don't bake the fucking cake. Bake the bread and the scones and leave the cake alone.

And just make it work for you. If your life becomes completely unmanageable because you don't make a cake, then maybe you have to take a look at the cake. You know, but for right now, just, you know, there's enough shit to stress about in life. Yeah, I was going to ask down with anything, but I think we've talked this into the fucking ground already.

Yeah, I couldn't get edu-wise. Okay, yeah, we'll just let them get. You got to learn how to jump in. You just had it.

But I'm not rude. That's what the fuck. Wow, did you just hear that snotty passive aggressive? Well, you and I are rude.

Yes, exactly. That's what you just said. You guys are just- I'm not a rude piece of shit like you. Well, then I guess that's why it's you just as a guest there.

Al, did you just want to say something? I was going to say you guys just kind of said anything that I wanted to say anyway. So I was just like, oh great. You guys have it?

I like it a lot. Good. Good then. Thank you so much for making this use that post.

Good post. For context, Count Boogie has a pig that's sweet. Yes. Oh my God, I didn't know the pigs could chant if you went both of them real soon.

So they can't do it. Doesn't sound like it. But the pig doesn't. But if you looped it, maybe circular pig breathing.

No. Time for you to make a jingle for that. Maybe. The pigs should do every song like the intro.

The Friday podcast. No. No. Just one show, maybe piggy show.

Pervert podcast at gmail.com or call us 4242262037 if you think piggy jingles show should happen. I see. Kathy, we got an email from Lovepane who is the person who- This is the person who won the cell phone cover with the donut. So she posted a picture of- I sent it to her.

She got it and she posted a picture of it in front of her big ol' nice boobies. And we're going to be posting that for our wonderful- It's very nice. My name is right on her boobs. Your name is right on her boobs.

That's like we're doing a three-way titty fuck on her. Okay, why did you have to go there? I enjoyed that picture until you said that. Oh, come on, Kathy.

Which side do you want to go top or bottom? I like bottom. You want bottom? Oh, hell yeah.

Alright, fine. That's cool. I'm going to go to some of the time. Do we have to- Did he negotiate here?

Yes. Is she going to be involved in this? No, no, she has no say. This is your head.

This is fantasy. This is fantasy. Your meat. Your meat is laying there and look Kathy and I do what we're going to do.

It's because we're rude, Kathy. We're rude assholes. It's because we're rude assholes. All right, she wrote to us and she says, I had to write and tell you that a few weeks so-so ago I had started perverted podcast from episode one so that I could listen to them all.

I had originally started around 165 so I had a long way to go. And I just listened to episode 42 and it was one of my favorite. All the hitchhiker's lines and the towels I was so amused especially when Boogie played the entire so long and thanks for all the fish song at the end. I'm going to go watch Hitchhiker's now.

Thank you so much. Sometimes when people elude episodes- I can't even remember but that fucking show I do because I was confused the entire show having never seen- wait a minute, I'm sorry, having seen Hitchhiker's guy to the galaxy and not having to remember one thing that was that forgettable for me. I know. I had to say it.

It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine.

It's fine. It's fine. I'm not a strong- I'm not a strong book reader. I read all day, every day, but you got to give it to me in like an article.

It's the best. I'm going to read about the black hole in 700 words and then I'm good. That's good. This is what TV Tropes is for.

That's good. What? This is what TV Tropes is for. What's TV Tropes?

It summarizes shows or series or books into tropes so you can get the Cliff Notes version. I like that. I do like that. I like that there's smart people out there that can explain it in Boogie Monkey Speak.

I love those smart people. If it weren't for them I wouldn't understand anything. Yeah, like all the Neildergrass, Tysons and Dr. Caicos and stuff like that that they can go, well here's something really that you're never going to get.

This is not even a dream of getting in. Here's the nice little McDonald's Happy Meal version of it. I'm like, yeah, it's a toy. We should ask Unger, there's anything actually going on.

Unger! I'm good. Blood crotch. What?

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