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First I want to say R.P. It was like a father who passed away in the home explosion. What? The house blew up and then it collapsed.
I don't know if they said he died in between that. It was his house. But you mean all home? It was like it was one of the news last week with two people died in that.
They showed that neighborhood. It was 10 houses that they got a chair that was down and more that were uninhabitable around it. That was crazy. I feel really bad.
I saw him trending on Twitter. I thought he tore his heels on Travis. Where's the name? But Lou, we got to talk about the secondary sport of this show before we get to the big shit.
Because there's a nigger on the loose in NBA. They don't know what to do. His name is James Carter. He calls it a ruckus.
NBA. I have no idea why the NBA fight him. Because he just said what he's a liar. How is that a basketball issue?
It's like a different thing. I feel rich because you can't talk about us that way in that like. Especially if you're saying it's in the contract but you got to hold the league in the best regard without talking about it. I don't think it's supposed to speak negatively about your people.
Well you know rules are always about interpretation. And I think with this when you can apply it to you're going to make it more difficult for us to trade you or for another team to be interested in you. Therefore you are out really damaging your own value on purpose. You know what I'm saying?
So to me I think that's how the NBA is looking at it and the reason why they find them. So what do you feel about the whole situation after the investigation? And all the things that kind of like did you see all this stuff that kind of like? No, I didn't see them.
Because it seems like what people said like when he called Barry Moria liar that there was like some agreement with him. Of course. He came to find out it was just like he was more about some other goofy shit. You know what I mean?
So it's kind of like and that was the only big thing that he was like not if any galato and any galato. But here's the thing right like we see this in sports especially with GM's and players all the time. Look at how who's the guy in Toronto? Black guy African.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He ain't tell the martyr. The martyr rose in.
The more came to him. It was like hey, you know, you know, school starting kids house this then the third, you know, they like the things that they move is big money. Bro, like I can't just yeah, you can't just move and stuff but bro. You know what I'm saying?
Like GM's do this all the time. What do you mean like these? Some bad? What you're saying?
I think they don't they they feel they can't be 100% honest with the player. I don't think they do the under the table deals all the time. Come on. Now, that happens.
Don't happen. I don't think it happens where they like I'm going to give you this amount of money and then the next season comes up. I can't do it. I'm like, why you think I remember that Dallas?
In what sense? What do you mean? They made a deal. He couldn't win any way he wanted to.
You said who went to the country? Went back to Dallas. All that stuff about him looking at the other teams. It was fake.
So do you all think that James Harden is the first person to just call this out? That's why he was right? Because you say it happened all the time. Yeah, you know, actually do it happen all the time but you can't be calling your the general fucker.
Yeah, you can't you can't do that in public. Like, let's say if you was having a private conversation and somebody recorded you and put a call on him a liar. It was like, who put it out though? Like he just got out.
Of course, it was just going to get out. They recorded himself. Yeah, he was right. He was like, to me, it was just like, you know what?
I don't want to get wrong. Like, to say somebody is a liar. I mean, what's the end of it? That's the thing.
That's just like, that's the personal thing. But there are more. But why the NBA getting involved? It's not a word.
Yeah. It's not a word. It's not a word. It's not a word.
It's not a word. It's not a word. It's not a word. It should be an internal thing as far as like the NBA investigates, they're more than James and that's why I was just like, why are you protecting him if he's just calling him out?
Y'all be calling coaches, we call him players out in some other type of ways. It's just like, to me, how can one side do whatever they are? Yeah, but they don't, right. But they don't, they, how many instances that we have a owner or coach and this mother of a lot?
Yeah. All the time. All the time. I don't know.
Not in press conferences. I'm just saying it happens. We're talking about this. They do it.
They do it in a way where it's like, they'll get somebody else to say. They'll get like, eternal list or the network or somebody else to say like, you know what I'm saying? They'll have somebody talk for them. Right.
They'll come out and say, but we know the workings of certain she can like, the whole of the Marjacks and shit was a prime example of like the organization speaking for the organization versus the Marjacks. No, yeah, I understand, but they're not at a press conference on camera or call on camera. Okay. That's the overseas.
They like you did it. That's the end of the day. What I think about is, I'm sorry, I was just going to read this part. But NFL PA said that we respectfully disagree with the league decision.
This one's hard for recent comments he made, which we believe do not violate the rule against public trade demands. So I guess they'll find him for public trade demands is what they were trying to say. Because he said he never played for him again. Yeah.
What I thought was, it was like, similar how you request talking about referees. I thought maybe it was something like that. Like you can't publicly talk about referee. Maybe you couldn't publicly talk about.
But I get them because they're lowest pay people of this whole shindy, you know what I'm saying? They're not making millions at all. They go, the ones that slum, slum balls and do, you know, sad mess. But like, so like you got to protect the referee somehow some way that you got respect between the players and them.
But to me, it's like who has more, who has more power and respect than a GM over any player? You know what I mean? Like brass Stevens controls Jalen Brown, Jason Taylor, more than they control him. Like slaves, which is why you can't come out and say.
That's what I was trying to understand. But yeah, I think that before we move on, my last thing is you're going to be going to ask for a trade. I'm sorry. You're talking about it.
It's imminent. You know what you're saying? You're going, bro. You're going up the heat.
You know what I read today? They keep talking about Golden State. I was saying you the article. I read it twice.
I'm like, this is crazy. I'm going to tell you the partners that they say. This is going to be everybody. My stuff.
No, it was like, I said you read it twice. Yeah, it was two different articles. Oh. It was a captivating article.
It was a cap to make it. He got it. It was not fact. It was just a pro straight.
And it was it was a real issue from a top. You just wanted to take time to get to the group chat. Like what is this? Nah, it's because you know they don't have no size.
But it was saying trade. Andrew Wiggins, Chris Paul, Caminga 27, pick swap 28, first round pick 29 pick swap. That's a winner. I'm doing it for him and Peter Tucker.
And Chris Paul, those are the building blocks. Three 20 picks. Yeah, fuck out of it. He didn't just want MVP.
Who put the next book? Wait, hold on. That means that you're going to get a haul for him. A haul for him.
You're going to get a barrel. You'll get a trade, but you're going to get more and return to what you give out. You're giving out one guy. You're going to get back multiple people.
And in that trade, they're keeping maxi. So look at Brooklyn. Like Brooklyn right now is literally a superstar away from being a very formidable team. Like one superstar.
And how much value does James Horden have? I think so has the men's value to go right. Which is like that for coming out and saying I'm not going to use James Horden right now. Okay.
You burned a bunch of bridges. Nobody wants to be a bro. Like I don't think anybody could pick up for Philly and give James Horden maybe with 45 cents on the dollar. Okay.
Okay. See, okay. See, the only one where I see a deal with me because they just got hella picks. They don't know what to do with them.
Or they've been saving them to do something like this to get a guy. And it will work. You know, they're young teams. You like to listen to young people rep.
I mean, I think I'm going to be close with them. Yeah. Go into the strip club. They know.
James on the brain one. He's saying he's saying he's saying he's saying I'm out. He's lying out every night. He basically works.
I'm home. I'm like, Oh, my God. He's only team. That's like, all right, we'll do it.
I'll give up pieces that are respectful to get back outside of that. Ain't nobody else going to try to deal with this goofy ass shit. Even with him. I'm not bringing him in and ruining my locker room.
He just ruined the last three places he's made. He's coming out saying to jam a fucking liar. Like, ain't nobody going to take a chance on that. Which again is the reason he's been fine.
Like you, you plummeted into the market. That definitely worked in the talks. It's just they couldn't make it happen. Look at the Clippers.
The Clippers were trying to add James Horden and if this is already having rust, I don't know if you heard what Ty Lu said, but Ty Lu said we found our leader in Russell Westbrook. I feel about the Ty Lu program. You know what I'm saying? I think it's telling the Clippers.
He turns stones in the diamonds. So, you know, like the Clippers wearing a trade didn't happen. Because obviously the Clippers ain't trying to give up a lot. And I don't think that they would give up what they would want to give up then now.
Because they know he won't out. I'm not giving you the same value you turned me down later now. I'll give you even less because I know you're bad at this. But just looking at that roster, it's not like there's like immense value because you're paying two guys.
You know what I'm saying? Big money. So like the others, how many others, how many of them give them for James? And it's really like you said, that's really, really, really want that to return.
And I'm not going to make it be all happening. I agree with you. To me, it just goes back to my point down there. Years ago, I think Sheldon, I don't know if you were on at the time, but I called out Philly early on from the process.
And we're seeing what this is turning into a record. We're literally talking about dwelling betrayed and this nigga just one of the MVP. You know, the only thing about the process though is maybe it would have been a success had been Simmons not, not enough. So that's, but that was done because again, I went back to the nigger was drafted the same way that everybody knew who he was.
He did not shoot and he didn't want to shoot. Even before being Simmons though, you missed on Nolie Nolie. Nolie Nolie, whatever it is that Nolie Nolie is. You missed it now.
You got to chase and take it. Oka Fui and like Jason Tatum should be in Philly right now. That was all the mistakes. The Jason Tatum both the biggest mistakes.
Five out of the six chances that you took during the process were wrong. Only thing that you got right was a V. They got rid of, what's the name? The other part of Williams.
Not even traded bridges. They dropped the bridges and traded them. Who's the DM there at first? At first.
I was thinking. Hinky. Getting rid of Hinky. Change something.
I still think bringing it like bringing Joly B over. and Oakler for those guys was not a mistake. Here's a generational talent, they're filling your lap. You're supposed to take that beer.
They kept drafting the same position. They're in the right street centers. What's the same? They're saying times for the last two years.
You still can't pass on that guy. Who, you only me? Okay, but what about the other five people? They came for him.
You missed no five people, but Jalil Oakler for, let's be honest, was arguably the best big man coming out. Yeah, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, a questionably generational talent. Correct. To me, it was a problem with the organization.
They weren't able to decipher. What was he going to be? No, the problem, how you out of that pick? The problem was the culture, you can't have young talent constantly lose and have them buy into that.
That was the thing about the process. It was like, yeah, you're drafting talent, but you're not building the culture for the audience better. If we're cool with being losers, the part of it is he getting, but part of culture is getting the right pieces to the right pieces to the right. And that's the reason why we talk about Detroit and the promise that they have because they're pieces big.
That's the reason why we talk about OKC because they're pieces fits. So it's like, oh shit, like the culture, even though we're losing and we're not necessarily winning. Yeah. We're not wise men with the Doran's.
You know what I'm saying? Can't Cunningham. I was watching those guys practice against the Olympic squad. Now, bro, like them, they ready, they ready.
So that's part of the culture. Yeah, we may not be winning, but we have something. We know it. Minnesota was like that before they broke up Andrew Wiggins and Zach Levine on that squad.
They had three guys under 25 average and 20 plus points. That's only happened one other time in the NBA. I can't remember who, but I only had one other time. Like, and they broke up the nucleus.
You see what I'm saying? So like, for me, when I'm looking at everything, you got to have you got to have the pieces that fit. Well, shit, don't fit in Philly. No, they don't.
Hey, Ben, but they got to get rid of James Hart. If you want to know, that's the no break. Right now is the best time to start the process. But the price, they were just a couple of games away.
Okay, we're not talking about that a little more. That's not even bringing that shit up. Because I don't even know them since. But Joe, look, both of those guys, both of their superstars are guys that we have seen now a history of, do not show up in the big moments.
As much as I love Dwell and Be well earned and deserve MVP award, but let's be honest, the great players show up great even if they lose, they're not losing because of them. They're going to put up 30 point triple doubles. They're going to go ballistic and force a double over time game. That's what superstars do.
I haven't seen you well and be had that moment. When they're counting to get to the next package. I get you. Speaking of culture as we move on to the best sport, best sport that we've ever seen.
We only heard talking about, we only talk about her. He lives in a game. I'm trying to do it with them. Yeah, shit.
We get to some real football shit. Us being a culture. Hey, man, I'm a Giants fan. That's my secondary team.
You know I'm a bangles fan at heart. I have two teams. It's great. I still chill out.
The fact that you roof look how much it's great. Oh, we're trying to see. My thing is, though, we're talking about culture. I'm a Giants fan, but the Jets, bro, they tug it out of my heart because they got a sauce.
And now A-Rod, I watch a hard knocks hat. I'm excited. I'm excited to watch hard knocks like I am. We need to become A-Rod, man.
I know, right? It's because, first of all, I feel like people shit on him so hard, even though he's literally one of the 10 greatest quarterback that you're going to be with. No, they shit on him because they always try to compare him to Brady. Like they always saying like, when you compare him this, he ain't this, you know, like, OK, no one's that.
But let's talk about him compared to everybody else. And then you got way better. He's like, what? What are you talking about?
I'm saying like, he's got one shit, but he still accomplished it so much great shit. Outside of that one shit. He's been a consistent type of guy. I can't wait when he was tired, but when he definitely met.
I get niggas flowers now, so now what do they say he is? He ain't accomplished. No, he is. Nick, I'm the product.
I've heard the most talented quarterback up. I've heard the record. See, he was that. What are you doing about that?
You don't have any home play on games this man has lost. I get you. No, no, you don't get me because every other person, you be talking about what he ain't win shit. He ain't this.
He's about the number one. He ain't this. But this dude has only won one shit, but you over here and falling in love. I'm saying this.
I'm saying this. I'm saying this. I'm saying this. He did win one shit.
He has won a shit. That was 20 years. The niggas, the niggas, the niggas, y'all talk about top five right now have not done what he's done. So they have his hand.
And even then, if you're talking about, oh, that shit was a minute ago, the last four seasons, who's been a top five quarterback consistently if we're talking about on average? He won two MVPs just a season before Patty won this. How many Super Bowls you? He has won one since 2010.
But if we judge an everybody off Super Bowls, there's only him and Patty. And as well as we talk about what's he talking about? Listen, now in this NFL currently, outside of him and Patty, he wants to talk about what's Super Bowls. That's over.
Exactly. So that's what's he always top five. Those people are half his age now. What's he talking about last year?
He was out top five last year. But that was outlier between the other two years before that. If you have one bad year out of three, are you shitty? He's Mrs.
Window. And you're acting like he's still the people's. The Cowboys, who the last time the Cowboys, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, no, I was like, no. I was like, no, I was like, no, I was like, no.
Because if you act like, you want to be four years old, you're worried. That's Nick. Like you just said, he not brave. He down in 40 years old, he was terrible ass.
He even wanted to practice. Now he's supposed to win a Super Bowl? You see what Watson did? What you doing?
What you doing? I'm doing love all summer. Jordan Love, first of all, I'm glad you brought him up. You're going to get to Jordan Love.
The reason why I was bringing up the Jets in general is because Aaron just clearly changed the culture in New York. And on top of that, they just signed up and cooked. So Steve, I'll go ahead and ask my question. In the last two years, he lost some of the divisional rounds and he lost in the NFC Championship in 2020.
And that was at home. And the cold against who? San Francisco, right? One San Francisco last year and then the year before Tampa Bay.
That was the NFC Championship game where Brady did three picks, by the way, no one brings that. Where did San Francisco be? Last year? No, I was last year before that.
Well, 2022. That's when Green Bay was a rock-load. It was as good as the 10 to three. Rock-load was it?
Yeah. On the road. It was a... And I feel Green Bay was like 13 to three days.
And it was... That was the year. I never said he was a content greatest all time. Yes.
Can you deny that? He won. He won. I'm going to ask him.
Maybe ten of all time ten back quarterback. Can you deny that? That's one. I'm just like, well, ten of all them before I saw my home.
He was the best quarterback I've ever seen on top five. No, he's going to ask him. He's all up for you. If he's all up, he'll not cut to the list to Earth.
He's all about the list. He's all about the list. I'm talking about him. He's all about the list.
The way he all the love right now is it. I'm not all about the love. I just recognize greatness. You're not the only one, though.
You're not the only one, but I just don't get it. I don't get one. That's because you're going to hate him and fight. Cause they just...
I can't wait until they... I can't wait until they come back. I What yeah, six any left Blue everything to say about a rod that you hate. He's really going out.
He's taking it He's taking in the rookie six He's giving us confidence as that Wilson. He's gonna He's gonna need it Cuz I have a place here Six any left Six any left Everybody's blessed with everything Last and gave you say last Last six any left below the patron last six any left he won Last Like you say he not break it's oh God's real say a rod won a title before the Cowboys Okay Okay That's over here We've been better than six any lemons Oh, okay Because you want to bear us there and Rogers all right whatever Oh Even though you guys understand huh even though this is the most disrespected position in the league I'm still kind of rooting for this dude Jonathan Taylor has been given permission by the Colts to seek a trade We've heard the headlines or the stories about Jim or say basically saying nigga. I don't do a fuck How good you just make it I go pay. Oh, he's in his final year of his rookie deal That's why this whole contract should it's coming up.
You don't get him my name is it my name is it might go get him Without you know the coach asking for a first round pick now. I'm not doing it wait. So So what's the issue you say you would No To me What's the issue why does he want out he wants out because uh the whole running back of market conversation has been brought up Jim or say came out and said some goofy shit basically saying like um I think he he's he's he wants he wants out. He's told me here.
He's like Everyday that's what it's a plus that cuts into his drug, huh? Jim or say something He can spin on the field I was like John the tailor got upset he asked for a trade and then they could say hell not even gonna need a plantation And then he was like fuck it he too much. Yeah, well, he said you could die and it would matter if he said me and you could die tomorrow That's the wrong guy Which means that I don't know what that's the most ultimate like I could give a fuck If I don't care about me This other shit so For me this time says more about where do you see john to tell you going what team is giving up a first round pick because they're asking for at least the first round You think that's too much that's way too much It's way too much not based on a value based off situation Like I noticed when you put a plate for you know mo why am I giving a first round pick and he'll run it back? Okay, if you put it like that then yeah, I mean he basically came out and and rolled his value He's thinking his value though, but it's not like he has enough money to where he could sit out either though Like he's gonna have to play all the more reason why you can offer a third round pick and just say I can't do none about it Because he don't want to play for me and you can say oh I'm not gonna give you a first round pick because he don't want to play for you and he's a run about you already Valuys position no that much enough to give up around one pick I think a lot of people we forget two years ago.
This man was the number one back in the lead I gotta be real close when in the super boat but he's coming off injury that that that's true But doesn't offer his talent in the way he plays. I think you'd be fine. You think or you know, oh you know you never know This is a first round By your bike on get hurt I understand that but what was just the most the one that they devalue which is the running back position And he's coming off injury. Who's it worth it to?
I'm buffaloy. I was like I would say I would say I would say Buffalo would be interesting But they don't even but they just now get me from Buffalo Miami Miami Baltimore now about some more they're on the list. I want to take a good back They're on the list. They already I'm in Cincinnati those are the 14 Buffalo Miami the Ravens assistant Cincinnati hardly ever dressed They don't like never trade their picks.
So that's why I don't Am I? Be the case and they don't care. They make a face. Yeah, yeah Biggest came up on his lawn and he was he ain't always was getting shot out of any way So Where's the go with the goes where the girls were the rain will call a bit Yeah, but he beat the case, but this is second charge and obviously you know he came to the legs like white women Yeah, he was already already with that look on but nonetheless, um, I don't see the bangles you know but first round pick they don't ever do a first round pick.
Listen, New Day and age, Jamir Gibbs was drafted in the first round this year. You think Donaldson Taylor's better than him? I think a first round pick is better than... That was our reach for him though.
What about Robinson with the Falcons? Is what Taylor better than him? I wouldn't give up these. He wouldn't give up these.
Oh, Donald and Taylor what? 24 years old though? He's not. I think he's not better.
He's not. He's not. He's not. I don't know if he's got that first round pick.
He has a better skill. Donald and Taylor was the best back in the league. But he has a better skill. But he's a better receiver than Johnson Taylor.
Donald and Taylor is one of the best runners of football. I'm not going to argue you there. Top three, top two. We don't know what Bijani is though.
Bijani is the best. That's the question that I have. I believe he's got more two of these. I believe he is because he's got...
I wanted him. I like him. But we still don't know. Look, I feel you because I feel you.
We still haven't seen him in a regular season game. I'm projecting here. But this guy has a martial-fark skill set. And there's been really going to be a first round pick.
That's all that. Skills set. I didn't call him Mark. I didn't call him Mark.
I didn't call him Mark. I'm not sure if that's so stupid. There's a really is no bruh. When he wins the Falcons division, I don't know the way they have any way.
That's where they're going to take a look at the top. I looked at C.B.S Sports. These are the teams that they have Jonathan Taylor and Potentially Going Through. Trevor Bay and Miami Dolphins.
That was top five points. Draw for a line of Panthers. Cowboys would be actually interesting. That's what I'm saying.
Cowboys who will be a good three point card. Jones, I gave up a first round pick for Jonathan Taylor. Hold on. You still got Tony Pauler.
Where? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm not expecting a spirit point into the season.
It's like, I don't know if he can carry the ball more 18 times. You didn't even give him a Z18 borough. He needed a two-back system. And then we have a solid two.
Yes. But now he's rolling out. Is it two? Was he?
I said he was in John's and Taylor to replace he. And he told me probably the position that he was in. He was a gadget guy. That is a good point.
That'll probably be the biggest drawback. The Cowboys is we just went to this was he we not going to overpay you and try to tell it once to get paid. Yeah. Like he won't wherever he gets traded to.
He wants a long term deal. Yeah, he just wants a long term deal. I think I think Dallas will give him a three year. Tony Paula deal up for it.
Okay. Pay both of those. What about Tony? Tony Paula is going to see the point.
So my flow who else was on that list? Miami. We may that may not allow us to sign Jana Waddle in the future. You're almost kind of good.
They got a fast. They got a fast. You know, most of it is always a team. He is a fucking team.
He's not the guy like that. He has a lot of natural, you know, ability speed, but it ain't, you know, not the guy. They don't really translate. Yeah.
He got on a video game. Yeah, not even. But I think I think that the Taylor Fits, I think, a venture and I still don't know if they're always sold on to him. So just don't know.
They picked up his with your object. We all know they sold on to it. That's why they picked up his 50-year option. We have never heard of all the Miami Dolphins are in discussion of sign.
Nah. Yeah. There was that no point when he started your game up, we was like, no, I'm going to keep the camera on this. What about the Minnesota Vikings?
It just gave up that one because they want to pay them. What they don't? Really pay them. That's why things like somebody's organization.
We have to realize that we can't we already screwed ourselves over by this and the other one. In fact, why would this run back in with chance on us? Mm-hmm. Yeah.
I don't seem to sort of do it. It has to make sense. Like you got to be on the way to win the Super Bowl. And only teams I think are Buffalo.
The Bucks don't make any sense. No, I'm not giving them any sense for the Bucks. But, you know, but trying to get paid. Yeah.
Well, yeah, they were signing. Yeah. Because they were doing the money. Maybe it was the Commandos.
Nah. They're like, you have to say got to good back. Yeah, you have to do that. You know what I mean?
They got to good back. You say Commandos. And, uh, you want to say, do you want to say the full time? Do you want to say the full time?
You know, I'll say the full time. Commandos. They're going to change your back to watch the full time. Oh, you will say that.
I'll bring out a little. No. Um, but I like Miami though. Uh, Miami would be good.
That's not pushing all the chips in. That's not pushing all the chips in. Yeah, like they got to win. They got to win in this year.
Yeah. Um, Lou, you brought up Jordan Love. So far, he's been doing really well in the preseason. I think he's going to touch down to EK in his short, you know, on his short little drives.
Green Bay is looking really good in the NFC, I mean, the NFC North standings as far as projection wise. They don't have them being worse than, they have a probably competing for the division title. Um, because they have a good squad. Really?
Where do you see the Green Bay Packers going this year? Do you think they will have a Seattle Seahawks? No, absolutely not. Type of success.
Eight, nine, seven and 10 somewhere in the. I don't think that's their ceiling for this season. Yeah, I think somewhere in the middle of the road. You don't think Jordan?
Everything goes well. They win nine games. What if you don't think Jordan Love is a good quarterback or has the potential to be a good quarterback? I'm not sure yet.
He's had flashes. That's preseason. I think I can't look at you when you mention the touchdowns you threw. But it's preseason.
He's had flashes in real games, I think. So he could be solid, but I'm not sure my expectations would be for him to win more than like seven to nine games in that division. I think the Vikings are a better football team still. They got a better quarterback.
I think that the lines are improving. They have a better quarterback especially based off last year. And I think the Bears will have surprisingly good. So I don't think that the Packers are going to have any easy wins in the divisions to get them over nine weeks.
You know, I agree with that. I definitely think the Bears. This is my pick. I know we'll pick the divisions a little bit later.
But for me, I think the Bears win this division. When I watched them in preseason, I saw like, okay, they legit got some weapons and we know Justin Fields is a legit. He could throw the ball. I'm not calling them, you know, not my homes or nothing like that.
I'm not saying that, but we know he could throw the ball. He could run the hell out that ball and they have guys that you have to play and co-commit. You know what I'm saying? He's a very good type.
Obviously not in my top five, but a very good tight end, a productive tight end. You see who they got from Carolina. You know what I'm saying? DJ Moore.
DJ Moore. You know what I'm saying? So I like what they have and I think that they're going to catch a lot of teams by surprise this year. They're going to have very explosive plays because you're not going to know how to guard all of that.
I think that NSC North is going to be very underrated as a division. 100. Based off the talent that each individual franchise is drafted, I do think the Packers will have a sneaky go season. I think they could possibly win 9-10 game.
They're going 10 games. I'm saying that because Matt LaFor is a defensive coach. That's a perfect coach to me for a young QB like Jordan Love. Because then like you said, we don't know what he really is.
We've never really seen film on him even like at least what Patty we heard before. He got in the field. Then they can throw it. Then they can do it.
Isn't that we have a hurt shit. So I'm curious to see how they kind of how that can help them grow with that. But they got the defensive do it. They still got some boys.
They still got a good secondary. They still got a good front seven. You know they lost what's an anxiety. Smith.
No. Wasn't that. No. No.
No. No. No. No.
No. So long. Last year. Uh.
They lost somebody. Was it the safety? I'm not sure. I thought they lost somebody.
But either way. They still have a good defense. They have a really good, they have probably one of the best two back running backs in the league between AJ Dillon and Aaron Jones. And I think I think Jordan Love has enough talent.
He learned a lot. So I think he learned from things from Aaron Rodgers. And I think they can do some things. They lost Aaron Reed and Dean Largy.
The Vikings to me are always going to be overrated. The Bears are still rebuilding. And the Lions are the Lions are depending on Jared Golf more than I think anybody else on the stage will. Yeah.