That's only happened one other time. Reed was born an NFC championship game. Even went to a Super Bowl. Five was it.
I got a L.A. They called Bayes in. They called Bayes in. They called Bayes in.
Hey, what is that? Chick-fil-A. One of the best man's food spot. I'm not going to say, I'm not going to say, he's not.
He's going to win. What is that? It's one of those. It's two parent houses.
What's that? Exactly. See how I do that thing? You're lying.
It ain't nothing. I don't know. That's better than Chick-fil-A though. Yeah, that's what it's about.
Yeah. Yeah. That's what it's about. That's what we got from the trouble's treble.
We'll put this on screen. A black first podcast. Yes. The title assures us of that.
Tatum versus Kyrie. It's what we got from the Finals. Shout out to everybody. Marty, what up Marty?
It's not actually DE-Tom technically because it was scheduled for non-15. We're actually right there. Okay. Yeah.
You know, you know, you know, Jalabrana, he's gonna try to do his thing, you know, you mean, try that? That man was a he's a conference. I was MVP. Well, I mean, I saw somebody put up the stats for the whole series, but to them, and it was like heavy towards table, but the stats can be misleading.
Yeah, it was heavy towards state and blood, you know, Brown came up bigger in the moments that they needed even dollar when he won. All right. Well, we are finally here after a long NBA season. The final matchup is set.
So we're going to go ahead and pretty much talk about that. There is a football news. Yes, we'll talk about that at the very end of the show. At the very end of the show.
Okay, it's going to be in it was in it. We discussed when we're going to take a little break. We have not, but if my prediction comes true, it'll be in like five games. So we will take the break after the final.
Yeah, we come back, we got to recap the finals, and then, and then we we got yeah, because then we started about some of the best but that's what we come back. Yeah, yeah, so cool. Not yet, but I guess we probably do need to go ahead and figure out what that looks like. But I mean, shit, you know, we got the WNBA, right?
Right? How did you believe it? You're such a stout advocate. So how could you laugh at that?
I didn't mean to laugh at all. That means. But we'll see, we'll see how it goes. That WNBA's been a topic of conversation a lot.
I'm surprised Nick can put one on here, but I think Spike probably scared him off. It's been a lot of WNBA stuff. If y'all want to get into it before we get to the regular topics that the thing was killing cart, getting that hip truck that hip check from Chicago. That was that was a sense of I will give it up.
That was a lot. But you know, I don't understand. I'm doing that. I don't understand.
But how did you call that a flagrant in the moment? Like, how is that just? Okay, well, I agree with you. You know, what I'm saying?
Look at that. That's not a basketball. But it's all that she was saying. That's like, bro, what are we doing?
Yeah. And that adds to the fuel of people saying that all their treating her differently than they would anyone else who is a potential superstar in sport. Why? Why they treated her like it?
Well, you know, I think can talk about it. Like, I don't think I've seen a bigger target on somebody's back outside of Lonzo ball, you know, and Lonzo didn't he didn't create his that created it for him. And I think the NBA, those guys didn't, um, they didn't physically punish him like that. They just elevated their game of play to show that maybe you don't belong.
Yeah, the same thing. Exactly. You know, because remember the first game against the Clippers and Pat Bev and Pat Bev was picking up at 94 feet. You know what I'm saying?
That's different. Like, that's okay. You know what I'm saying? Well, we see what Caitlyn Carte taking, you know, cheap shots off ball, all that type of stuff is like, Oh, the league needs to police it.
I'm not going to lie. They got a woman to ask. That's a little compilation. Yeah, but it is what it is.
I was just about to say that's not okay. That's not okay. Why not? It's basketball.
It's basketball. We do. No, no, no, no. I play basketball.
That's not how we play basketball because the thing about it is you can raise your your you can raise your your game. You know, to say to be more aggressive. Yeah, but you don't have to take she's taking a lot of cheap shots. She's taking a lot of stuff that is innocent though.
It's not we saw her call the chick of bitch before the bitch excuse me for the lady. We saw her call the girl a bitch before she did that. It's like, you know, I didn't know that part. You're not going to come up here and point out the shit that you did at Iowa and in the NCAA thinking that, Oh, we're going to this year, right?
We're swimming. Yeah, it's not swimming. So if you do this, you for the path of consequences for it's not just that you're Caitlyn Clark. It's your Caitlyn Clark and you're carrying yourself in a way where you think you're better than the people who already been here.
So yeah, you don't get. I don't think she's scared of herself that way. Thanks. Yeah.
Go ahead. No, go ahead. No, go ahead. We don't know though.
We don't know what she's saying between the lines, just like anything else like other sports, you know, you play sports. There's so much that happens in a game. There's so much after the call, after the whistle, right? All the little slick words, all that she is.
And that's the thing where people have been commenting on what you see. Her teammates are not running to defend her because they know how she is. Yeah. They did it.
When they said they were dealing with this in their practice, where she was talking fly off at the mouth and not making the correct passes, not doing the things that the coaches wanted her to do. So I will dang, I'm going to make the size of no way. I'm about your teammates, bro. So now we're out on the court and a big hip check you.
You're only going to do down there. Look, I understand that to a degree. Look, I play, I play point guard, right? And you're the coach on the court.
And I've been in situations where, you know, people talk to you and you have to respond or sometimes you initiate regardless of whatever the situation is. Again, like you raise your gameplay. Um, and I also saw a compilation to where her her teammates are just, there's a reason why I had to first run picks. Like there's like, you know, when you pick number one overall, you go to a bad situation.
And you know, I saw a compilation, why don't you play like below? That's the way it appeared. Sounds like our trail non to said, now people, the W has always been physical. And I'm not saying that it's not, but, but to me, that's not physical.
We saw a basketball. Angel Reese get hit a couple of weeks. What am I saying? A word nobody said anything, but we're going to talk about it.
I just look at it like it still happens. And he said it's okay. Yes. Yeah.
It's rose. Basketball. What we talking about? You just keep going as a physical sport.
You're pro. You're not. I would know. But let me ask you to call you.
Keep it moving. Would y'all agree that she has a target though? Yes. And that's fine.
And I think that's fine. That's fine. Having a target on your back is fine. What's not fine is how the rest of the league.
Decides how to hit that target because in gameplay, right? Like I understand physicality. You're coming through the lane. Yeah, you might get hit checked coming through the lane.
That's in basketball. I'm coming to get the ball from out of bounds. And you just literally that's not a basketball player. You got all the same.
I agree though. I agree with that. You can't call me a bitch though and not expect it. Well, then you know what?
Let her get the ball and you take the ball away from her. You score the layup and look at him. What do you mean? I'm going to win a minute.
Win a minute. Win a moment of the game. You're not going to call me that and disrespect me and you not respond to that. Win a minute.
The players talking about can't don't have the skills that to do it. Yeah. See, I've been kicked off a two chance like wild and that. She got kicked off the team of Russia.
This is the other Russians that you want to see. They got a message about that. They're going to a fire alarm. So what I'm saying is you're right.
Kayla, they are going hard on getting the car, but it's well deserved. It ain't like the scene, the type of person who invoked Angelica Reese doing this shit right there. And that's the same girl that did that. Like she's not innocent in this.
I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. You said that. Those words didn't come out my mouth.
No, there is no prerequisite to it. You don't get everything to come with you being a cocky. All American wiper. Like what I'm saying is raise your game.
So if somebody is talking shit to you, guard them 94 feet, take the ball and talk shit back to it. That's easy to say for, but it's not easy to do. That was the case they'd be doing it anyway. You talk about it.
Something that you want them to be able to do. That's like saying your team talk about me score test downs on them. It's not that simple. I'm going to do that.
I'm not saying that. But that's why it's pro sports because it ain't simple. Right. It ain't simple.
And if I'm talking shit to you, raise your game because I'm talking shit to you. Sometimes the enforcers will enforce. As opposed to raising their game. They just go, they just go knock.
I'm going to hit you. You come to my head, bro. And I get all that. You know what I'm saying?
Like I was just watching Gills Arena when Kenya Martin was talking about, you know, the type of enforcer that he was. He's like, look, you know, some guys, I let him draw a little bit because I know they bought that like Zach Randall. He's going to talk some shit. I'm not going to go hit check him and get physical with him.
I know you about that. But you like who like, you know, some random dude talking shit. Okay. We're going to see if you bought that one.
That's different. I understand everything. You know what I'm saying? That happens on the basketball court.
All I'm saying is, is that we know Caitlyn Clark is a scorer, right? We know that. Has she, you know, been as a prolific as a scorer in the WNBA? She wasn't college.
No, you know what I'm saying? She literally just had her worst game ever. She went one to 10 or one three pointer. You know what I'm saying?
She only scored three points the whole game. That's not what we expected. But it can happen when you're a rookie. You know what I'm saying?
You're a rookie. And every time that you go to the next level, there's a learning curve. And I'm okay with the learning curve. What I'm saying is some of the stuff that's happening.
And you know what maybe it's not even the players that need to police it. It's the league that he's. No, what do you know? What's the what's the what's the white girl who named Diana Turos and what's the rosy?
She told him. She told him all the rookies that bro. It's a different game. He's grown women.
Yeah, it's gonna get real. And if we're being completely honest about it with most of the people who talk about this can't say on ESPN and mainstream media, it's a black white thing. The black women who've been doing this shit for years and putting in the work and making this league is what it is because they've been whooping in the WNBA. They see Caitlyn Clark like, no, you're not gonna be the one who take this from this level to that level.
We've been doing it for years. And that's the animosity that they have towards her. Nobody really would have able to address that was usually been going to address that. But that's what it is.
Like they look at her like, no, you can't be this little white girl from Iowa, thanking the shoot, going to be the face of the WNBA. When we even put in their work for years, there's been Candace Parker's, there's been all these other different people who have been doing this work. And now you coming in, it's like, oh, now everybody else is coming with you as far as the media. Well, they did come with her.
What are you about to say? I was gonna say, I feel your net at the same time I feel it's even bigger than that because I see the white players like we just said, Turos, and the mother ones, they feel the same way. So this rookie class in general, we can look at Angel Reese, we can look at a lot of these these young ladies, they felt like they're the saviors of this league. And they were coming in hot.
These girls coming in. They are though. They are though. They ain't just Caitlin Clark though.
It's a whole year though. Yeah. But you got to include Angel Reese. That's the thing.
Yes, I see what's smart with her press conference. Like, y'all can't forget about me. The reason that y'all even was interested in this is because I did the whole little thing. Yeah, but it's a native reason though.
She's right. Yeah, it's right. She's the reason that because of her gameplay like that's right. But I'm still here though.
The only reason that y'all cared about me and women's college basketball the whole year after I did the Tony Ayo thing is because I did the Tony Ayo thing. Don't just act like it was because she was out here shooting threes. It was because I was the villain. Y'all hated me and y'all tuned in for that too.
And it's so crazy how everybody got everybody in the WMAC. They got Steven A Smith complex. What about me? What about me?
Like I was the angel. She did it. She did it. And the lead is doing it to her and Caitlin Clark.
What about us? We said the ground. We've been doing it. Everybody wants to credit.
Just go play ball. You know what I'm saying? Be thankful for the position you're in because a year ago nobody knew who they didn't even know. You didn't even know who the team is in the lead.
I was going to do it today until you stepped in. It's worth it though. It's a fair topic. There's a lot of different lanes that you take away from the race thing.
So just the Caitlin Clark thing, to the angel, Reese thing saying always me too. Like there's a lot of different ways that you can look at this. And it just wasn't this interesting last year. Well, Angel does get her coverage.
I think one of the things that I thought was interesting when she said that their games are sold out and celebrities are coming to their games. They're all going to the fever game. I think that and I'm still trying to figure out where I landed on this because it's becoming a somewhat complicated situation because Caitlin has to perform. Yes.
Casuals won't have a lot of patience if she's not out there doing what she was doing in college. They want to see that. There's a lot of money invested in Caitlin as well. So she has to at some point live up to the top billing.
When you say the lead needs to intervene, the lead has to look and see based on data are more people interested in the fever games or we up everywhere. Because we up everywhere Caitlin can do whatever she want to do. Right. You know, because we probably going to be all right.
But if people are really on a parent's attention to her and she's getting all the coverage, which I think communities be careful with that. Then you take eyeballs from other people, then you're siphoning off from the attention that other players in the lead needs. So this afternoon, it comes down to money. And if Caitlin isn't living up to that Wilson contract, that Nike contract, whatever these contracts she got, she'll be, she'll turn back to that goddamn pumpkin.
So then playing as white girl from Indiana, real quick. So a couple of things, Ken, that you said, the lead does need to intervene and they did a good job by upgrading that regular file into a flagrant file. That's what I'm talking about intervening. Right.
Like that is the job of the league is to ensure that we have a safe place for all of these players to do with it. But I'm talking like if I am the commissioner of a league, I'm going to be saying it's got to be just a belief. It's like, you know, it's just it's just you have to ensure maximum safety. Are you going to get hurt?
Are things going to happen? Of course. But if something happens, that's not a non basketball play, we need to elevate that to a flagrant file, which they did, which that's what I'm talking about intervening in terms of the money thing, Ken, and living up to contracts and expectations. She's a rookie.
She look, she's a rookie. How many rookies can we say had success from day one regardless of the sport? There's only a handful. Andrew Luck, LeBron James.
Who? Right. See this, right. So, so, so, so, so, so all I'm saying, Ken is that this is going to pay off in the end, because I do believe she is a great player.
You know what I'm saying? I've seen it with my own eyes. Even Steph Curry, her comp, right? Her comp is not even no other woman.
It's Steph Curry. Steph Curry took four or five years before he was Steph Curry. It took six, seven years before they were the splash bros. So all I'm saying is the expectation is is there and is rightfully so.
However, it's going to take a little bit of time before she gets adjusted. Let's look at Luca and Trey Young. They both, Luca's been a fucking pro since 14, 15 years old. It still took half of the NBA season to be like, okay, cool.
I know what I need to do. Same like Trey Young. You look at Trey Young coming into the league. He struggled.
But after the All-Star break, he took off a lot of rookies. Luca is a learning curve. Now, I'm not saying that she's going to go average 35 points. You know what I'm saying?
At the end of the season. I don't even know if she's going to average 27 points next year. I don't know what learning curve is. 25 plus zoom.
It's the top load of the scales. They got easy teams at the end. But at the end of the day, this is why I always say with young players, it takes three to five years for you to figure out what the hell you are. Right.
I got two things I had to say. She's got to adjust quick and stop being a victim. Like why not about everything? Adjust the game, shut your ass up, pull up play.
The second thing is the league. She has though. You got her in post game. Did you not see after that Chicago game?
What she said? She said, yeah, you know, at this point, you know, it is what it is. It's just part of the game. I just say, you want to cry about it.
She wants to cry. That is a form of car. We're going to go ahead. What?
Stop. No, think about it. It's this. That's not.
We're missing the bigger point. It's there's something going on behind the scenes with her. And there's a reason other than just hate that people don't like her. And these are teammates.
I'm not like we talked about the teammates are stepping up. So yeah, she better figure it out quick. She better figure it out how to humble herself around the people. She needs to humble around you.
We can't get on the court, but you need to figure out the team thing first because without the team, she's not going to be there. And then too, like Ken said, the casual fans not going to hang around and wait for her to figure it out and figure out how to play. By the time she gets it, that fan is gone. Because that's what it's all about.
That's why I disagree with you and Ken. And we talked about this when you and Nick were talking. I think that there's enough talent in the WNBA to keep people there, even if they're not there for Angel Reese. Like we still got to respect what my girl do with the Long Zwet.
We got to respect what Angel Wilson does. We got to respect even what Cameron does as a new NBA rookie. We got to respect what all the other talent in the WNBA does. I think when people start coming and they see these WNBA games and they get in the social media place with them in a nice pitch before the game.
Man, we go for it. Look at the R&B line. It's the time. How many times Angel Wilson really been on the home page?
A lot. No, bro. She was a kid right there. I'm playing right there.
You know what? She was Westin Conference player of the month. She was playing the lead. What kind of fair weather fan knows that?
They don't. This is why I disagree with you all. Will they lose the fair weather fan in the short term? No.
But hold on, Spike, they will lose them in the short term. But the moment that Caitlyn quote unquote figures it out and she has a Steph Curry moment where she hits 673s and the internet and social media. That's it. They ain't coming back.
They ain't coming back. They don't know what y'all are there because I'm like, yeah. They're all about her. There's enough talent in the league for people to the fair weather.
They may have came there to look for her if she's struggling. They're still going to find other people. What you already been there? No, because you got the much of storylines.
No, no, no. They're not going to make people stick. Look, sports entertainment is all about popularity. I guess being a home page now, I don't see age on here yet.
I see two about them. Caitlyn Clark. Okay. Spike, at the end of the day, look, sports entertainment is all about popularity.
And let's be honest, Caitlyn Clark is top two, top three in popularity in the WNBA. Can the fair weather fan be lost temporarily? Yes. But once she once she figures it out, can they're going to come back?
They're going to come back because everybody's expecting for her to do what she did at Iowa. The moment that she figures it out and she starts doing that, you don't think people are going to? Well, no, I think I think they're probably getting some new fans, not the ones that love. But yeah, I'm going to just be in.
Hey, hey, I'm going to just be right now the route that the navigation in the F.A. NBA, MLB, NHL soccer, college sports, and I got to go to the to the lips. It's just the WNBA. And they way at the bottom.
Their players that are talented enough in the WNBA to keep people interested. But Spike, they don't have the notoriety. They're going to have the popular. No, they're not going to.
You know why? You know why? They're not being invested in it. They're not even in it.
They're not even in it. That name is not Caitlyn Clark. Then who is it? And they go put that behind you?
They don't wear it like that. You can look at the ring chick. Y'all can look at the Brinks chick that's playing for the Sparks and see that from there. Like they trying to pop her up on the way.
I don't know how good she is, but bro, I've seen her every day on my social media. That's your algorithm. Yeah, that's your algorithm. That's your algorithm.
I don't see Brinks name. What's her name? Cameron Brinks. That's her name, right?
I'm looking for the scene. Let me do a control L. Yeah, that's all right. They're going to play for Brinks.
What I'm saying is what they're doing now is people. Zero. I think Brinks is not zero. Since people are now looking, they're going to push the additional people like Ava, like Brinks, like all the other popular players in the WNBA and people are starting looking at them versus Caitlyn.
And she won't matter as much. It's going to happen. It's not going to happen. It's going to happen.
It's going to happen. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. They got to train lightly and just let this thing.
No, 100%. Yeah. But Sam South, star, Trill 92, he's with you. And I think you guys are back with this.
We need to talk about H. Wilson instead of CC. And he also said Candace Parker won MVP as a rookie. Come on, people.
What did I say? What? Oh, in terms of three to five. So, yes, Candace Parker, you could throw her in there.
You could throw Cam Newman in there. Yeah, 100% you could throw Cam Newman in there. You know what I'm saying? He was good day one with Carolina.
Like I said, there's a handful of people. I just I can't think of them all. But there's not more than 10 to 15 players regardless of sport that came in ready day one. This is not like that's you talking about 1% of the 1% that's fair.
Well, I guess we'll be talking about Caitlin. I guess more. But because I see them talk about angel reason, more than I see them talk about Asian and whoever this brings person you mentioned. Anyway, let's get into the finals though.
But before we do that, let's recap how we got here, mainly with the last game that decided to I guess Dallas or the Timberwolves or somebody wanted to extra check. Damn it. I forget the other alarm. But that's the check before they closed out and went on vacation.
We watched the rest of the game when we got off air. And it was exciting. It was thrilling. They called him Phantom Falo and Luca.
You know, being on a 4.1 play. Because we were like, man, spite you need to come back. This game ain't over. Yeah, I see.
When I got some crew. But it was over the entire time. Inside joke, it was well over. Yeah, they lit them up.
So then Dallas Mavericks completed the gentleman's sweep of the T wolves. The question is, was this a disappointed season for Ant-Man and the T-Wool? No, absolutely not. No, it's crazy.
That's crazy. That's a damn good question. It is an equation. I rewrote it in my head, but I forgot what I rewrote.
It's a damn good season because nobody thought Minnesota was let alone going to make the... What's the cost? You can't just make the fucking playoffs. You know what I'm saying?
We didn't even know if they wasn't make the playoffs. So for Ant-Man to take the monstrous jump that he took. For all of those other players, Alexander Walker, right? We're gonna make Daniel Nas Reed for all of those guys that take the jumps that they made.
Now we have to look at Minnesota as a true contender when going into the season. That's not what we thought that they were. And let's put this in perspective. The leader of the pack pun intended is 22 years old.
22 years old. Now, do you understand how hard it is to even make a conference finals at the age of 22? Like LeBron made it to the finals at 22. You know what I'm saying?
Dacenetatum, I want to say played in a conference final at 22. There's only a handful of NBA guys that has even completed that feat. So to say that this was a bust of a season. Nick, show your face.
Show your face and defend what the hell you out here having us talk about because no, this is an overachieving season that puts it on the floor. Nick, you got to get to the finals or bust. Unless it's New York Knicks. They don't want to get the pass like that.
But no, in the RKF match, I've tried changing that alarm multiple times. It's like super high and the latter, I got scared. So I had to calm down. Yeah, we have like 20 foot ceilings.
I can't get to it. We've been moving in too much. So I ain't even dealing with that. That's going to be somebody else's problem.
What about your show? Absolutely. Absolutely. It's a failure?
No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. You got a new established leader, which that's the biggest win of all. In fact, you got somebody that you didn't have a clearly on this team.
You had players and everybody thought it was supposed to be cat. We all talked about how he's always got to achieve. Rudy comes in and is Rudy. We talked about how they made this trade and how ridiculous it was to give up as much as they gave up for Rudy.
And for them to get as far as they did with the trade being made, it's nothing but successful to me. I mean, you can't look at much and say other than the fact that they lost to a lesser seed, but it was a more experienced team. And you played against one of the greatest players in the world in two. Two of the greatest closers in the game.
I was a very close at that point. And of course, Luca, but I'm just saying in Kyrie, we've seen him ascend to the mountaintop. So it's very difficult to get past team like Dallas, which is on the role. I don't think it matters who they played against, to be honest, with the way they were playing.
So it was definitely what it would be, Denver. I think so. I think so this year. And Dallas would be.
Yes, I do. And all of these, I think so. And got another deal with Joker is the others. I think that Dallas's others would have dominated just like Minnesota, the other.
I don't see Jamal. I saw him slack off and not be himself. I saw Aaron Gordon not show up. I saw MPJ not show up.
I think the same players would not show up and Dallas would score more points in Minnesota. So that for that reason, I think they would want. We saw Dallas by defense too. That's something else that I didn't think we would see.
Yeah, I saw them play some defense. It wasn't some dogs out there. So it was not easy for Minnesota. Including Kyrie.
Including Kyrie. Look at Kyrie play better defense in this playoffs than I've ever seen either one of them play in their lives. We talk about them as defensive liabilities, but they proved to be factors on defense, not just solid. They can factor.
Skyrie, Diamond for balls. So it's hard to win games like that if you were Minnesota. Minnesota didn't have a shooting. They didn't have the skill.
It came down to experience. So it was a successful season to get as far as they did. Now they've tasted it. Now we can see what they do after.
I'm shouting we were watching the game here and we saw go there. I didn't even want to bend over to pick up the ball. Yeah. Pick up the ball.
He's even diving the floor. Anything smoke. I think the only thing that way you got on the floor was somebody tripped. You're right.
You're right. You're right. No smoke. I think the question is ridiculous.
I think that we had to see Dallas do some amazing things to even beat Minnesota. Minnesota should have won that series. They had the best player. I still think Anthony Edwards, he just didn't have the support and cast that he needed to win that series.
A year, two years from now, we'll see them do what they need to do. However, a lot of the stuff that you just said, Sheldon, it just went possible for Minnesota to win. Like the cards were in alignment for Dallas. Like, Luke was playing great.
Kyrie was playing great. Anthony Edwards didn't have the help that he needed because Catnot that dude is not a number two. Now Minnesota can look at this and they said like, it's not a failure because now we know if we put somebody worthy next to Ant, we can win this series because we still love Ant. We still love what he can do.
We still feel like out of Luke, Kyrie and Ant is the best player. That's what's going to start with. I think I said that's true, but that's what's going to start with. Just that it was true.
Yeah. That's it. It was good. It was good.
It was good. It was good. It was good. He has the most potential out of those three.
Going in the next year, going in the next year, if you're going in the next year, you're not picking Luke over. Yeah, I'm picking Luke over. And right now, okay. Okay.
That's fair. But at the end of the year, if Ant happened to super see what you thought, you'll be like, okay, yeah, I saw that coming. It's a middle song. Thanks the same thing because they say superstar.
So now they're looking at it like if we get rid of Cat, and we get a real number two in here, we can take this away. We go, well, here's the thing. Like, I agree with like 80% of what you said. I think when you look at the three best players, it was definitely Luke and Kyrie.
Those are the three best players on the court. Ant has the most potential because he is younger than all of them. And we see what like at his best is like, oh shit, and he can still add more to his game, right? Where the other two Kyrie is Kyrie, like he is a finished product now, right?
Luke can still get a little bit better. And we're seeing him doing it because it was on the defensive side. Offensively, we know he doesn't have any athletic ability. Well, in compared, like he's not a top tier athlete, but you know, offensively, he could do everything you need him to do.
The question was on defense. Now we're seeing that, but Ant still has more levels to get to that can surpass Luke. I'm not saying like next year because he's talking about like next year. I don't think that like, like, like Ant still has years to become a finished product.
He's 22. You hate your physical primary. I'm not saying I'm saying if he's a passive, make sure y'all wouldn't be shocked. She I would be.
I would agree to agree to agree. Not like, oh my God, I never seen it coming. But it's like, oh shit, I didn't think it was going to be this year. That being said, if Ant come out in school 30 next year and win MVP, y'all will be surprised.
Because we're going to have an MVP. So y'all telling me if Ant came out of one MVP next year, I didn't want MVP next year, over Luke and y'all will be surprised. I will be surprised. You know why?
Because look at what Shaded this year. He got his thing to number one in the West and then win the MVP. But he didn't really have any serious considerations for me. What do you okay?
Okay. That's what we're talking about. I'm not. I'm not.
Honestly, he was leading. Thank you. We're not dropping on that rabbit hole right there. Yeah.
The other part of what you said that I disagree with is cat not being a number two cat is definitely a number two item in the soul. Yes, I'm in the soul. No, maybe LA. He is the place.
He is the perfect. New York. He is the perfect compliment. Of course, because 80 is a better version of cat.
Now I'm saying I would trade 80 for kid. If you would have like this. Okay. Okay.
Hold on. That's a whole other guy. We're not even jumping down here. That's both cat cat is definitely a number two player in this league.
Yes, he is. And he's the number. He's Chris boss. He's the number two.
Cat is the cat is Chris boss. Oh my God. Okay. Cat is Chris boss, bro.
There's no team that you're going to go to. It depends on him as the number two, and you going with his championship. No, Chris. Chris Boss was the guy.
He was the one who was the one who was the fourth opponent. Before he went to Miami and was the third guy. He was sitting to Rondo when he was one of what I'm saying is cat is never going to be like if you want to win a championship. Chris, he not your number two cat is your number three.
Nah. He could be your number two on the championship team. Give me, give me, give me the number two on me. You want to champion me and what a championship?
Minister, Minister, you bro. It happens that happens though. That happens. He would reload if y'all would be here and you would have a number two.
You got further next year y'all are going into next year with cat is your number two and saying oh like we can We've got further than you ever had Was the number two you have never gotten that far nobody expected you to be there and you got there with him So why I'm gonna fight in oh we can see it's fighting we can see it's part of any time cuz I Number one of them and what what happened? He's number one of them, and so I know I agree But what I'm saying is that's all I'm saying what I'm saying is they still would have lost those games if Kat wasn't there If Kat hadn't stepped up in some of those games cuz and struggle a lot right down the stretch That's fair and they would not even they wouldn't be different if if it cat wasn't there if I had a better number two than Kat then maybe I would have won the series not just a game who lost game to I take a ad a these are better version of cap. So that's not Bro I would trade I would trade cat foot Zach Randolph and I think the wolves see the wolves in a very very tricky situation based on what I've been reading Because of their financials, you know they're they're they're going to the luxury cat yes Yes, yes Is a max contract cat is a max contract really go bears max contract Connolly is not cheap and then you're gonna have to pay Nas Reed and Jada medains Yeah, if I could trade cat and get Paul George would you do it? No, I would do that No, it's like why you don't give up all George why do you want Paul George?
Why not? Why No, no, have you not seen Paul George choking the playoffs more Because he has a cat I respect Paul George more with the player like a career was an idea Why would he play? He was playing against a player that won two titles in co-op NBA championship coach and Failed multiple times a tingler as a clipper You know like after people to address your last one kept saying that the best Rossin elite Yes, you want to try to play before that team and you want to get Paul George, bro I would say Paul George is my number two over That's no no, but back to what we were talking about that's actually important But yes, so I don't know what they're gonna do So yeah, you bring it up cat is going to be discussed a lot because they have to decide Do we run it back and pay the luxury tax or do I don't cat get more pics and players back? To better feel out the roster around and and to compliment Rudy because Rudy works because a cat.
Yeah That's the situation. I think you run it back and all the reason I think you run it back I mean even if only for a year is because like I said, you got close enough to taste it now You know what you need to do to get over the hook Paul You can't you can't if you if you trade a piece away It's almost like starting over. Yep, especially a piece of solid as what he added to the table Yeah, he let you down because that's what he does he's gonna let you down that's cat But accepting that is crazy accepting my number two is gonna let me down yet. That's okay.
That's your one number one that's your down at times We're like I say on him like I say he's 22 years old though Right has a grown man. He's been in league for years. He's still like the bone. Hey mistakes at the number Right, right.