Will you make excuses for the Cleveland Cavaliers that they fell to win their series? Let's talk about the Pacers and Cal series and also the New Year's as well. If it go down to 0, then go down to 0. Joe, my goodness.
Crawl, bros. Don't take me too fast. I'm all right now. They still love those things.
Yeah, they were still the last time I checked. It was close, but it was like a five-point lead. Anyway, the other Pacers and Cleveland Cavaliers started off the second round of the play. Also Sunday evening with the Pacers winning, slash, still in game one on the road, 121 to 112.
The different nuggets after taking care of business and game seven at home will be going on the road to try and steal game one or two in Oklahoma City against the Thunder, which teams do y'all think will prevail in their series and in how many games? Just look at like a chase. He's going to swing. I'll give you that.
I'm going to tell you. Shut up. Wow. I hate y'all.
I'll do this all the time. Oh, wow. He got that with Freeman service. I'm not sure my phone.
I'm going to get me too. But you're just slow. Got pretty. I got who knew that.
You got pretty neat. Fifty burger. But nothing further. A wasted 50 burger.
They had the game. I got to see it. Hey, how are you celebrating on the mission? They said he was the most.
Oh, well, after we go there, they said he was the most overrated player in the NBA. He's been going in. What is that? He's saying?
Yeah. I'm talking to John. It's not a bad prank. My thing is like, why when you're down by when you know that a three will kill you, why are you not making?
Why are you not making? Why are you not making him have to drive and like take away, like bombard him, like make him have to drive like. And I hate it. I get everything about time.
He wanted to. Yeah, my brother was talking about it. He's such an awkward baller, bro. Like he's my brother said this and I'm not even saying, but he said, he plays like he's disabled.
Like, is it so awkward? You know what I'm saying? He's so like skin with it as well, bro. He dropped his nuts on the chip.
Literally. That's crazy. But my name was saying that about his game too as well, because like the reason it brushed actually so much because it's so unorthodox and it looked like it's not supposed to go in and when it keep going in, you're like, come on, fuck home. He the type of dude that he went to the playground, bro, he got it fights every day.
Yeah. And then you know, you talk in hell of shit too. With it. So what was she about to say?
Can she? We. Yeah, she's a question. That's what Ken.
What do you say? What'd you ask him? Yeah, who's winning these series? Oh, and how many games?
I thought you asked me. Injuries are a part of sports. Not a bit. Listen, listen, listen, listen, I was a bit lost.
Half is started five was. Come to bail. You hear it. We're going to go in the series.
Now he's not here. No, no, no, no, no, we are. We are. We are in a recession.
I had to take up a second job. I don't bail bonds for the law firm. I'm doing over time all throughs. They night.
That was an ugly loss. I can't even fathom. They should have won that game. And the fact that they didn't.
I think the series is overgrowth. I'm not the principal. I'm in the offensive file while they were up one, 19, and one 14. So with like 40 some seconds left in the game and Matt Strues had a turnover.
So Donovan definitely contributed to that. I think I have injuries and him putting it on the shoulder. Even when money talked about that too. As far as I know, I'm not going to be able to do that.
I think it's a wrap. I'm not saying I get swept, but I think it's a wrap. You can't go down to at home and then you're going to win four straight. I can't see.
They're going to be down. This is Utah days in. If you think down. If you're like by himself, like if if Garland and Moby the defensive player here out.
Swim, don't get if he's out. I'm not saying that he's a wrap. I'm not saying that he's a wrap. But I think it's a wrap.
You can't go down. Oh, too. I'm home. And then you think I'm going to win four straight.
I can't see. I'm four out of five. They're going to win. They'll put you in the game.
But you know what the defensive player the defensive player the year out. Slim don't get if he's out. And your boy from the Hawks. It's like he was like how I want to talk.
Who out man. They should have had that game. That's what I was saying. You dropped it.
You were up 12 seconds left. You should win that game. Absolutely. I don't care how many of you go.
And he didn't score one more point. That's the reason why they're going to lose the series. Because number one, you said injuries are part of the game there. It's not a full squad.
You mentioned a hell of a game. If you're up 12 seconds ago, you still lose that game. How much better can it be? How much better can it be?
You know what I'm saying? So I just at home at home, you know what I'm saying? You lost both of the gays at home. If you split, it is what it is, but to lose both at home going back in Indiana, even in Indiana splits, you're still down three one.
You're still down three one. And your best friend. That's why I see, like he can't do much more. Like I understand about my experience what you said Nick is too.
He doesn't make the team better when he scores all these ones. Barkley even said it at halftime. Still though, like if I'm giving you 50 and we can't pull out a win, like something like that. If I'm not the initial, I'm pissed off about that.
Because it's the reason why people thought he was going to leave Cleveland here because they had a great season and all that. And yeah, injuries are a part of the game, but like you just take off two players and he ain't got nobody to go to. There's nobody there that they got. They got random.
They got the motherfuckers from BTS, the rest of his team. It's like, I don't care about Max Truce. Who cares about white man named Jerome? Like they didn't think it's ain't doing shit.
Well, the Cavs do because Truce just committed a turnover after Donovan Mitchell did. Guys, they were up by 20. Yeah, at home. That's not what I've got 20 in the fourth.
Yeah, probably no 20. That's the 20. 30-60-21 run though, people. But can't we?
We know 20s nothing. We didn't work this next. They was on a 31 to 11 runs. We don't understand score nine points.
It's crazy. A lot of that is coaching. That's the coaching loss as well. We can argue that that's rust.
But in this game, we looked at the Cavs losing game one as probably rust. And of course, it's been having an injury. This one, they came back. He's not ready.
They were in rhythm. They had a 20-point lead. There is no excuse for the Cavs to commit as the best team in the league based on the record. To lose that game at home after being up 20.
And more importantly, to commit those turnovers up by five with under 50 seconds to go in the game. When one of them is being your best player. Guys, if this was anybody else, we would be killing them. If this was, definitely this was LeBron.
We would be destroying LeBron. We destroyed LeBron for doing something idiotic like this. They hit a ball shot in the turnover. You know, down at the Mitchell committed offensive foul.
And so it. He was ready to say this shit right before the game. He was hit. He was hit.
Look, I did the same thing to Joker. Joker had a 61-point triple double. But they got an I called him out for missing a free throw because he didn't get it done. I'm not saying a Donner's image didn't fuck up.
I'm not saying the Cavs didn't fuck up. Because clearly going down 0-2 when you were the best record in the number one seed in the whole playoffs. And you know, that whole quarter-rated don't beat shit. But at the same time, let's not act like the team that Nuggets got versus the team that Cavs got, if they didn't compare it with, you take their best player off that.
Like half the team. I'm saying if you take Joker off the Nuggets, the Nuggets still proved that they can win a game. They just proved it last night when he wasn't on the floor during a crucial point in the time of the game. If you take down a volition, you take down a volition off this game or off this team or off this team or on those last moments.
I don't know how that plays out. But he probably should have took him off the goddamn floor. Yeah. He's not going to play the numbers.
They lost. I'm not going to shit on him for losing, but they lost. Why are you not, Nick? You know you have to shoot him.
You should shoot on him and shit on him. I could be critical of him. I can't shit on him. Most of his team was on the bench hurt.
Nick, they had a 20 point lead, bro. It was not in the fourth quarter. It was during the game. Like you said, it was there.
He was there. He'd be killing him right now. No. The scoring in the fourth quarter was 36 to 21.
And they lost by one point. That means they had a sizable double digit lead coming to the fourth quarter. Except they shown if Steph didn't have Clay, Dremon, who else they have and whoever they said. You should have.
Then I was like, oh, man, I'm Nick, Nick, bro. You're getting the best of your night. I'm not in three of the plays on the faces first. If I give it to my next point.
Miles Turner, Tyree's Halliburton, Obie Toppen, and what's that? McConnell, the white one. You know, my goddamn girl is a bunch of bit. I know he's Nick.
I know he's Nick. The paces are at work. I have a deeper team. Tyree's Halliburton can come in and out the line of all he wants to and the paces have been able to hold it.
I know everybody in the chat probably saying Nick, the double talking on the ship. But I'm just giving context like people always try to say. When I give context, I'll call me an apologist. Going into this whole thing.
No one believe in the cast. Am I right? No, there were no one to see. No one believe in the cast.
No, no, no, no, no. Listen, no one believe in the cast going to the house. I didn't have them going to the Easter conference fire. Exactly.
I'm asking you questions. Exactly. So you add injuries on top of that. What is this team supposed to do?
When we're at 21 points at home. I'm not excusing the loss, but it's also a reason to understand like if you go into this game, but I didn't even watch it and say, oh yeah, Garland and Mobley and Hunter are out of that matter when you had that big of a lead. Listen, listen, I'm just asking bring up a question. Just answer me this back before you say shit.
I told you going into this game. Donovan Mitchell is the only one starting in Garland, Hunter, and Mobley are going to be out and they lose. Would you be surprised by that? Yes, if you told me they were.
No, I didn't say it. I was saying that's it. That's the only thing. Like, are you surprised by that?
Forget how the game went. You said it goes. I'm surprised. You're not going to move.
I'm just moving. Listen, you're saying, first you're saying that I have to look at it as if this looks like a random game and it just happened. I could probably give it more of a possibility of it happening then, but not when you already have a 20 point lead. And a full-time lead coming into the fourth order.
I'm not going to be surprised by the audience. The audience doesn't understand it in the chat because as the game was going on, it was early in the first quarter. So I called it early. Ken was like, Donovan Mitchell should win this game.
And I said, don't do that because it makes no sense to have that standard for him because we wouldn't have that same standard for anybody else who lost. You shouldn't go out in the lead. No, if you're losing three of your starters in the playoffs. But you said he was the best shooting guard in the lead.
We've seen him as a win. That's what he's saying. That's what he's saying. That's the question.
Yes. If you're losing three, listen. If you're losing three, because I'm all about keeping it a game, Ken. Even when I don't like a player, I still will give context if need be.
If I told you're going into this game, you're losing three of your starters. I'm not expecting you to win that game. However, the way they lost this game, you can't excuse him. I'm not excusing Donovan Mitchell for his part in that.
He helped lose the game. He helped lose him the game. But I'm not going to shit on him. I will say that he helped lose him the game, but I'm not going to shit on him like this is like all his fault because he's the only reason why they're in the coast in the game.
Seven points. Let's go. Seven points. Seven points.
Okay. Okay. Very much from a game that I haven't lost a very similar game against Minnesota too, if I remember correctly. And we had a lot to say about multiple people, not just one.
And two, if we want to talk about that, then what y'all got to say about OKC show. Oh, we have. I'm trying to move us off. Okay.
Why don't you say OKC show, you blame the song for the LGA? Is it his fault? We should shit on him. Yeah.
He'd be the leader of that team. Yes. So they lost because of SGA at home. Yeah.
You take the. Is that what you say. Can't can't lose is actually a display for this loss against the nuggets. I think the nuggets have the best playing the world That's what I want.
I didn't ask that game at home when you're up the way they were up Ain't fucking shit, and I'll be glad when y'all finally admit that fucking shit Who's a joker on the patient's name Right exactly when you playing like we're just some of the best the best The third are very talented team and sea is really good, but still What joker is able to do as far as his influence on the game? They can't be messing with you. Tell me if you tell me that team moves Just to the joker It's the same thing because they were showing they were they not up by 20 at one point in that game with There was about to they were up by double digits going like What I will say though is that sga did more in the closing stretch then then He scored Because I keep it a bean because if you want to say show everybody who's the best player on that team They lose in the last minute or the last few seconds when they should have won that game when they were up by 20 And they had a fourth quarter and he did some goofy shit at the end to lose the game then yes That's your sga. No The biggest difference is that was game one this was game two.
This is a muscle We're cleaning you can't go down to at home with home quit it man. I promise you I'll stand up if I'm wrong It's yeah, he's not gonna let them lose game to Is it a bit or you just saying I Better not the bottle the Oklahoma City is going to be too So All I'm saying is the Louis this is probably the best basketball point you ever made on this show It's the fact that this was game two and not game one I'll give you that however if we don't shit on people the star player for letting that team lose when you were up Then we got a shit we got a shit on everybody. I think the content is slightly different in this one It's not it's not it's not actually I think it's close because they lost they lost what could have managed to I mean You're talking about their them both taken ill what you're trying to do is is making one one comparison And that can be made but I think when you add context is different because SGA did not commit offensive. I'll in that game as a matter of fact SGA made buckets for his team down the stretch Yeah, he put him up by three, you know with 11 seconds left The ball was in his hands and he scored and he gave him a lead that they should have held the issue with this with this series Is what I was talking about going into the playoffs now have some of the things I've been saying have come up wrong Of course like the next beat the Pistons, you know say I had to come down to a step back Read my brother and you know saying But a lot of things I have been saying have come to fruition and this is one of those things I love okay See and Nick you were trying to grip each other end of the season, you know to say about where okay She's okay.
She should wind up at the end of the season. I said yeah, they come make the finals But I believe with the others they're not ready to take that championship seven. We saw Denver They still have a championship court, you know I'm saying and I feel this is that matchup that I was saying that okay See's gonna have to get the ass whooped again before they can make a championship a legit championship, right? They have like they see they ask what I don't think they're gonna win the series I mean this is that better and that's it's about how many games before that is the question we suppose we can answer it yes We had to react to what just happened to real time.
Yeah, no 100% but six or seven This is gonna be a grown-out game. Okay, see is uber talented. It's gonna be down the stretch It's gonna be those those plays that don't even get mentioned in the statbook To do the it's harder to do the cows pace the series now given the fact of everything that we just seen So I don't know what you guys want to put on that game now I say patience. I mean patience and six.
I'm giving down to two games Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm over here in the gym right now I had to sub in real quick because one of the starters clearly is injured I don't know what's going on, but I feel like Nick I'm gonna take take take take five real quick, bro, because you activated my head alert You know I'm saying you activated my bail alarm So I wanted to sub in real quick and just let you know that like we ain't going for that that's your bro We're gonna let you do that over here, bro. Hey, I say So here's what we gonna do do do it straight like five I just want to say we're not hedging we're not bailing out and when it comes to CAB ain't no if you if you're a star if you're a star super star you got a 20-point lead I don't care who's missing. I don't care who's missing at a certain point. You're just supposed to close You're supposed to find a way because clearly those guys will go to get you the point lead And if you've got role players that get you there in a playoff game then you gotta put your Batman Keep on like we always talk about with cliche.
You gotta deliver dog. So now bro. We not going for that, bro That's crazy Donnie Mitchell should get no blame at all. I said he helped the game I'm not gonna shit on him.
I'm not gonna say this is a referendum of Donna's a Mitchell I'm saying he gonna say they lose two seconds later I said Steve Kerr and I said but I'm willing to call out everybody in that rent as well But I said Steve Kerr was on watch I say go on say what I say stuff curries on what I didn't say Jimmy Butler's on what I said Steve Kerr I want to see how he's gonna coach in this next round because that's the one more fucker that started my hatred for not hatred I shouldn't say that he started my This deep criticism of go to say because I don't really think he a good coach There's another coach you don't call out to that I don't think he really a good coach I think he had a choice between showing choosing between the mix and go to stay right when March actually got fired That's choice and NBA history. That's all I think Okay, when I said six or seven. I'll talk about okay see Denver in terms of Cleveland, Indiana I think it's five games six games series at max Indiana at this point. I got that You have Denver in six or seven or you have You gotta pick a number they could quit saying that this is that this is that Somebody's calculating this shit.
That's one Denver's winning and what? See if we thought I want to rehash two quick takes that we had earlier in the year I'm on the elliptical right now. So my boss is firing right now. I'm gonna get out.
Wait, but breath two takes Daily Britain is a top-templator. We'll get to two that just remember that and number two the youth of okay see it's still too soon I don't care what nobody said bro. They got a bunch of babies on that team y'all let Memphis gas it like that because they ain't got no real adults in the Room but dog you see what Denver they were able to do they could pick you apart in multiple ways and don't get yeah He had a garden that she but those were tough but the dog you can't do that every night's a deep Trust me. I know I was a famous but he's a player.
So if your coaches ask you in a seven-game series Yo, make it hard on him every single game part That's not gonna happen one or two games and I was a game He just got off so crazy because they were so afraid of trying to give a too many open three to the Marbury But this is the problem. We got to talk about the youth. Okay, see that is a huge factor I can't call him podcast because he did get a run run his flower So I'll give you that and I'll give a damn if you breathe hard on the elliptical down these shit to me big it because that take about Ken People been talking for about 20 years about Sam Presley and his ability to draft talented young players coach him up He did it with okay see and now he's doing a run again. It's supposed to be a 2.0 When are we gonna you just young at me about accountability?
We in the playoffs. We want to hear none of that shit, right? We're in a playoffs. Can I want to hear none of that shit?
You're number one C. You're supposed to have MVP before what we talking about? He's not my MVP. Well, either way No, but we've seen this throughout history like what you saying as we see Mike It is like You talking about them like that I was trying to bring you down Your issue is that you worry about the third party too much we don't care about the third party I want to know about the first party what it is that you feel about because that's how you had Hold on.
Hold on. This is how you had you want you want to you want to be the leader of the third party narrative instead of the leader of the Nick narrative. I want to know that makes no sense that's what makes sense you talk about your mr. Head just last week you talk about your routine walls The second of all I have the number one nigga always talk about okay See I'm the one that said the one thing I was wrong.
They're not gonna trade us again They don't trade shit after that goofy shit. They don't try to get honest if I'm okay See if Sam press you want to show that you get here you trade on you full time For y'all so they ain't got keep on top of you got kept on telling me that okay see number one see they got all this shit They got the ass be last you're not even coming back better this year strong this year I'm here and directly have said that okay. She's not ready this year I've heard what I heard in the outside which is why I brought I bring these things to you I told y'all this is I tapped into the streets before I bring out information They give me and I got the paperwork right here The last of us like outside those are the effected like we come out above ground outside of the compound But we don't get the areas come on, bro. They make wishes words losing the Denver or losing to Indiana Losing the way they both lost in general is worse I'm not no matter what team you playing so the way they both lost in with with Oke with a Cleveland tonight and Okay, see last night is there's no better loss in that.
I don't care who I believe it But don't you believe in okay see money you believe in Cleveland? I don't think the case you gonna go lose again. Oh like leaving just if SGA has 50 tomorrow, Oklahoma City is going to win No, I'm I guess that's going to have I have I have had the Cavs and okay see on a similar path where the expectation for them Should be the conference finals but from how when I talked to basketball minds people like y'all and all that stuff Everybody kind of like I'm not really I just want to wonder where where is this hike coming from? Where are these expectations coming from when they told me SGA was the MVP or at least it's arguably MVP I'm like, okay, so that must be so I asked him I was like so that means me He's gonna take this team far cuz he's the best player in the end of the league on the best team in the league and they said no So I'm like what the fuck is we doing?
This is why I'm a kid call me out early in this episode He said Nick is the one that says the West is she's this is why I can't he's making Tell me the number one another two seeing the West ain't shit So then why am I supposed to respect the West? Well right now is looking the same way in the East? Yeah, I don't know about that Is the regular season and the post-season are two different days broke and of course that's cliche But it has to be stated over and over again especially in this age where I feel like we've had the most parity in the NBA ever You just talked about Oklahoma and Cleveland and we got Indiana like who wants to quote both see that right? But at the end of the day what that's exemplifying the team that that are up to all we want right now is they have a different gear and They have a different mode of attack on offense They have wrinkles so what's going on all they just have straight up creators like a gentleman And experience is going always matter use is always gonna be a factor and if I'm being real Cleveland has less excuses Okay, see because she'll just just got the reins from the team from CP3 in 2021.
We forget that in the bubble She'll just identify the two guard, you know, so we have to remember that this is probably what the second season Well, okay, he has had like real title contention. It's too early, bro I really believe you have to lose two or three times before it really becomes real The calves are young too Before It's about Jared Allen you know say beyond your hundreds been in the lead now They have multiple guys that are veterans these guys I play for okay see their average age is younger than most college team But they're I'm saying crazy, but I'm sick yet. Okay, see is the youngest team But they're but we even it's still a young team. They're not a old veteran team They're not like the next or like the Celtics are like the better and so but they're better and so they're young veterans come on I'll give you that I'll give you that when I won't give you was cute goofy ass He can't work out a talk on this He's got the rings above the ring on saying is he got the tippet right and he was not the guy He was really clearly a little well had Beverly and then they got quiet and PG and they ship them the okay He of course Paul went there and it has only been two seasons with him being the head share of in town That's what I'm saying versus down to Mitchell who's been to them watching who've been all star who've been dunk contest guy Who's gotten the same issue deal?
Change your guy's in this year. So clearly he hasn't been five six years deep doing it That's why I have a problem with people putting it on open feet right now It has to be cleaving because Cleveland has multiple guys on second contracts They have multiple guys on second and 13 from trade and Mitchell is the guy so you have a 20 point lead is in excuse You guys there's no excuse in that but there's context with it. I can understand I'm losing The only context is that you're a DM it's guy and you're gonna shoot that man bail. Yeah, that's what I'm not sure That's a context everybody need to know.
Yeah, I just agree with you. I disagree with people They've been the best team all year long. This is an extremely tough matchup for them But this is how you're in your stripes exactly and you got it You got it. You got it's not gonna be easy same way with and I know we were talking about a later But same thing with Anthony and Edwards broke you gotta go through these guys to take the medal and it is what it is So I got okay, see winning and I think they probably win in six honestly How to go with Wait, Nick you ever in five I got Denver in five.
That's just our frustration from Donovan Mitchell I said it's in the chat. I was like the biggest weakness. Okay, so you got is the best thing that Denver has going on They have a legit big man in the league who is literally the best player in the league. It's always gonna be an issue You got heart and side Nick ain't on the next no Although is that I see I see a scare I see I see And he and this is the reason why coaches get fired so much can't they got the hamburger coach in the nuggets He'll be my six seven games boy Any end of the beat in Tyler They would have all the reason to do that they got all the evidence to do that all right well