This is a place where sports being a lot dentists where somebody always gonna be in joining me on the show We got Spike Lou we got show today 24-7 and Nikki what I was gonna say old name, but just a Nick I Think about what the next was gonna say the end of the series I thought it meant but We have a lot to talk about man as you guys can see we are here to discuss The conference finals they start tonight. Okay. See Timo was playing. We have the paces and the Knicks would be playing later Not tonight, but later on this week So everything is set we are one series four wins for somebody away from the NBA finals and We're gonna talk about it and look ahead and also look back and after we do all of that We will talk about of course the contract that brought pretty got to start closing out the show But before we get things off kick things off We have a audible version of FIFA's best of the week Damn well, I was My topic was the New York Knicks.
They are the best that I've seen this past week Hey 100% because About the pain the goal is a warrior's don't they say warriors different nuggets leave in Cavaliers and boss itself is are all taking an Early vacation to Cancun, but before they go abroad What single move does each of these teams need to make to be better net season and do you guys think the self to need to trade Turn around oh Sheldon what you got bro? Oh, we start with Boston First and then you can go to some of the other teams. I don't think they need to trade down the brown I think that you know, we saw what Boston looks like when they are at full strength We saw what they look like and they were Champions so this team they know they can win with the same team and I know you're gonna lose a couple players here and there But you want to keep if I was them. Yeah, it's a couple of them that's gonna be gone But if I was in my room I'll offer as more than a couple that's part of the championship core I would try to keep for things if the whatever Well, you can't you can't because Jalen Brown has like a two almost a three hundred million dollar contract So there's Jason Taylor you know say like they're both combined both of those guys are gonna make over a hundred million combined next season You can't keep the rest of them You can keep one of them.
I thought I thought they keep one How much the owner wants to pay in those tax in those Aprons because now is like dollar for that. It's a crazy taxable. I don't see it. Look here's the thing I don't know how deep his pockets are.
I don't know how much he wants to but at least two of them is gonna be gone minimum Probably all three of them. I would figure I would figure at least two as well But if I was him I would still try to keep my main two intact You saw you can win with these guys you can add pieces around and build around them again You know what Jalen Brown is Jalen Brown is what Tatum can't get going Then and Brown is there to pick up slack. They switched Batman and Robin switches between the two now, you know They've got to work together. That's just the way I look at this team I feel like they still can win with the court that they have if they can keep the main two pieces together and a couple of those Reserve guys step up you should be fighting Boston I wouldn't start over does that mean you have Brown being your number one going into next season?
Because Tatum not gonna play. Yeah without Tatum Brown would have to be your number one I think he can feel it I would I would trust him enough to not trade and get rid of it like go 500 or like be a 60 I mean well you don't make the playoffs. They won't go 500. They'll be better than that They were what nine and three or nine and four would say was that your that's when they had white and poison is and and everybody else If they have to get rid of them and Brown is their number one They would like to build the six seat in the east well it depends on what they replace them with and that's just the thing We don't know what's coming in if Brown performs like he can perform then they should be okay I mean the each is not it's not like the easiest wrong so so so so let's just say let's just say two people go right Let's just say it's for zingas and draw the day because our horrific is the older typically when you're older you're cheaper Right, so let's say they keep our horrific right Derek white is gonna get the Jason Tatum minutes But guess what happens because we already said this is pretty much the whole season Yes, right this whole season So that means that it's gonna be time when they say those come back to re up there Why and they're not gonna have money for Derek white so they're white's gonna be gone like the team that Tatum is gonna come back to It's gonna be completely different than the team that we just saw so I don't disagree with you at their full strength Yes, they're a champion their championship contender, but they're not going to be that once Jason Tatum gets back So my thing is I think you have to explore an option of chain of trading Jalen Brown, right?
And getting as much as you can in return including draft picks me my brother was talking about this potentially Go get a top-line point guard somebody like a John Moran somebody like a tray young somebody that now you compare with Jason Tatum And have a different version of what the bosses are gonna look like and get back a hall for Jalen Brown Um another team that could trade for Jalen Brown is Houston another team Potentially okay see like just anybody that has good players that can play right now and has some draft picks for the future Because it's it's not like that championship window of them potentially becoming a dynasty ended with that in total Yeah, so it's over. It's over. It's like they're different now. It's a different organization It's a different team.
You know people is right what you have to do now if you're the boss and self-ticy see What's the most that I can get back from that in brown and some players that can play now? I necessarily gotta make the playoffs, but I do need players that can surround Jason Tatum and be the best like around him when he gets back So I gotta eat the next year like the next year Like I can't expect to be the boss to sell to the championship But I do need to get enough of a haul for Jalen Brown as to when Jason Tatum gets back He got talent around him We got draft picks and we continue to move forward if they want to continue the championship window over it They try to keep Jaden Brown and just wait on Tatum to get back It's over like there's no the windows close because we'll even know again This is one of the most devastating injuries that you could have as a basketball player We don't even know what Tatum gonna look like when he get back. God forbid He not be good like we he probably won't be as good as he was I do think that he got a nice enough skill said where he will still be above average to good maybe even great But he ain't gonna be the zation Tatum that we remembered right that hit 40 in Madison's where God before he got hurt He's not gonna be that That's a heavy that's a heavy standard because I mean how So there are no players in the game back from that entry to have the same player. I'll say Katie Paul George Like Paul Jordan to have a but he thought I'm just saying like I understand he fucked up Like you say he did have that same injury He isn't anomaly But they have a common they both got old man game It's not their game is a predicated solely on athletic ability athletic ability was the cherry on top right?
So even if they are diminished from the athletic standpoint even a disattentator can't turn the corner like he wants did He got a jump shot. He got handled and he has size You know say so smaller wings are still gonna be an issue to guard him and he can still take most big men off the dribble It's not gonna be as explosive as it once was but he got gang he got old man game So he just got to work more on his skill set and mentality and he'll be fine I think you can still score 40 and 30 and still be the day to tell him we just not gonna see him as explosive as he wants What's off again that Jana Brown was the MVP of the finals last year I'm not enough game to carry that team. I'm not saying he's gonna tell you I'm not saying he's gonna carry for the championship He's gonna carry them to be a perennial playoff team Should be there But what did you but but in business isn't it the smart decision to sell high like Jalen Brown stock is it gonna be higher than it is right now? It might diminish exactly so that's why and I'm not saying you 100% trade Jalen Brown I'm not saying that what I'm saying is you have to explore that option and see what it is that you can get a return Now if you don't like what you can get a return you stand pat because Shelton to your point He was the Eastern Conference of finals MVP and was he the fun?
You know so I don't disagree with you Shelton But at the same time you got to look to see what's out there for him. Well, I'm going to see how well they perform Go shopping without Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I am too. I'm with you and I don't mind them exploring options.
I'm just saying I'm not so quick to say I'm gonna get rid of him 100 based off what I've seen that's all that's all I'm saying. Yeah, what about some of these other teams that that's Up out of there. I put it in the chat in terms of Denver when I watched Denver is much And I'll eat my words from about three or four years ago when they first traded for Aaron Gordon And I said Aaron Gordon was the worst pick up that they could have picked up But that's only because he didn't refine his game to be around a superstar He was drafted by Orlando. They drafted him to be the guy and then obviously he wasn't the guy So they traded him to a place that had a guy he had to mold his game around that He's done that now but early on he wasn't that I think he's a very important piece to their championship core But they need a bucket getter and MPJ as much as I like him He's too up and down like he's not consistent enough and to me if I'm KD KD should only be looking at championship contenders older teams that are championship contenders only young true team that's a championship Consenter like that is okay See maybe Minnesota, but Denver is somebody that if I'm KD has I have to look at seriously as a suitor because he he What he'll do is Jamal Murray ain't got it Joker struggling a double triple team of him Like like how you gonna guard all of us and KD still gonna be able to get buckets like he's like a big guy He's required.
Yeah 100% 100% yeah cuz he's like let's be honest But he's in a twilight of his career You know it's championship for us for him like it's like just making the playoffs and shit not making the playoffs is worse for your legacy At this point nobody's gonna jump down Katie's make about oh well you join the champion you know You know now like can you just be the difference maker you don't have to be the cake You just be the frosting you know saying that's okay Joker and KD would be Tomorrow Murray if you get cooking every night again like you do that's the hard and you really not you reunite with Wes For us I got that's that's gonna be gone How many things we're gonna put KD on everyone This is like Katie going to use it. That's already said He'll benefit in the Denver than he is Houston like they don't they don't need that type of Like personality they don't need that type of game like they don't need that on a team like they're in a perfectly fine He's the best player on that team and that's an issue He's been the best way on his team everywhere. He's been on his career though, but he's Gonna start their growth. Yes, 100% Wait, wait outside of Yeah He's coming to the next if anything, but that's another conversation But I could be you know like like if he wants to go again front running you know saying that could be an option But I think Denver Denver's a better fit and that's not one of the four teams I'm trying to get to the Boston part I do think that I Don't believe that Tatum and Brown can work again and they can still rebuild around them But I don't think that this franchise I feel like they're not patient for that So they would rather just blow it up and you know if they shitty this year they trade Brown No, you should just hear because they don't claim either and they'll lose KP and others so they can probably get a high draft I don't even know if they only own traffic, but they could probably get a high draft pick and extra draft And then when Tatum gets back healthy use that pick with Tatum and rebuild her tool I think that's where they're probably gonna go It's to avoid the scrutiny of being losers because if they don't if they just lose those guys and just have brown dang on They're gonna be like a seventh eight seven basically a six through eight C You knock out the first round and then you get a low draft like it What does that do for the team you wait for team to come back after that?
We don't know what he'll go look like by then the next of one three titles It's like we're going the other teams. I would say the bonus day words If I'm going to stay brown fire, I'm firing Steve Kurt. That's me I think if you fire see Because you already know because my thing is this as long as step is there is Kurt gonna be there and Stepping a little bit of a step to be gone Longer I don't think step is gonna be like LeBron and play until he's 45 I think step is like I'm probably one of his game is more acclimated to play I'm talking about stuff as a person. I don't think step is going to play for until he's like four Like you know as long as the wrong one I'm not saying that he doesn't care about basketball I just don't think he plans to keep his career going that long I think I think I think stuff looks at it because he understands that he's one of the one of the ghosts You know he's changed the game.
He has tremendous impact all of those accolades right like he has a gold medal He has multiple championships. He has all that as long as they're competing or in the hunt and they're viable He's gonna want to play you know I think they're a player away We'll see what they get back in the John thing comminga trade because that's that's inevitable again I told you the reason why he wasn't playing was deep in rap It was 100% about not coming or not having to match top dollar when he becomes a restricted free agent But they're gonna sign and trade on so we'll see what they'll be able to get back But but they are legit look we saw 100% with Jimmy Butler that With step on the court with Jimmy they were they were good step off the court and Jimmy Jimmy look like and he was hurt You know saying he was hurt everybody was hurt. He didn't look the same They need to get another guy that fits that system We seen a lot of guys coming go but not everybody fits that system I can't remember the big man but he was on a podcast like a year so ago and When stuff was injured he was starting with dream on and he was putting up almost like 20 points a game We put like 18 points a game But when stuff came back he talked about how it's so stuff centric that even if you're balling that it don't matter The ball gotta go to step you know saying look you got you gotta find somebody that fits that third wheel of a score that fits with Step but my thing is that it's not my thing for firing pair is more so which you was pointing out like he can't get buy in from young talent And he doesn't know how to develop young talent. We saw that with the second overall No, but it's the facts it's not even a narrative.
He can get you can get Don't think amigos to buy in to be a team player as a head coach Who the hell is Don't think amigos to be a coach? That is on Steve Kirk they drafted him so you spoke we picked the groceries you supposed to make the meal He came with one game without Steph and Steph ain't getting no younger no quicker He don't get older and slower. You know I'm saying he already getting out muscle But the wolves is gonna bust a there's gonna be them in six if it wasn't five you know I'm saying now my thing is my thing is Kurt I think courage run his course So keep him in it long because all the history now that shit cuz I make us want to pay you make us What they did yesterday? I'm gonna say he's shitty I'm just saying fire Steve Kurt now and start this rebuild process Because because Nick at the end of the day Steve Curry stuff curry are married to the game Bro and when whenever steps time to go that's what Steve Kurt's gonna go like like right you can't fire Steve Curtain on bringing a whole new system like it's not gonna work But if you get a new coach is gonna be a new system Second developed town young town It's they're not at that point yet Say I report so that they're gonna put together package try to go out the youngest as they should Everybody but but but dream on and stuff curry I was gonna say it's comminga and a couple of graphics and it was somebody else and I think it was moody or somebody like that But they were talking about going after Yannes and adding yannes with Jimmy and Steph I think that's the difference maker I'm adding on it any honest any team is gonna make you a championship contender But if you got a shooter like Steph with a player like Yannes and Jimmy at full strength Which I don't know, you know, I don't know Jimmy was hurt not I don't know why Jimmy looks so bad And I was the one that was saying it but at the same time I've seen him take a lot of criticism for the way he played down So I'm like I want it because I saw the way way talking about it I was like I want it to be well hurt like that.
They're talking like No, we can't be true. No, no, I I I agree if I was when I was saying it but once again some of the stars like in the league were like he didn't play well So I'm thinking well was he hurt really something two things can be true We understand that he was hurt. We just don't give a damn You have to play the sit show ass on the pie. Yeah, what about um, who's all the team that just got put out?
Was it? Oh, yes, yes, they just saw better by Donnie's off. They ain't supporting Donnie's off. They got her.
They got one that series They would have won their series had he not got had they not had injuries probably would be the paces wait Wait, what was she'll do what were you saying? They would say that Donnie's the problem? They was like who's that? People's amazing saying it was somebody else said it's so Do you believe that?
Do you believe that? So what is this? Perkis. I put it in the chat.
I don't know yet. See, I don't be looking at this shit. I'll be putting in there. I put it in there Because you're talking about really I know which is why you should look because I don't post But be a green be a green be a green look at it and be agreed and K P had receipts What's his name?
Don't have a Mitchell got JB bigger staff fire Well, hold on Fire JB bigger staff was holding them boys feet to the fire we saw the job that he did in Detroit We know the type of coach a year old school type of coach Yes Turn around to Detroit Pistons, okay, laughing start So much so that you pick them to be the next Donnie Mitchell is a coach killer number one guy JB bigger staff fire number two the culture or around the cleaving task Is that it's all happy go lucky? I can't remember the damn name of the white man coach that they just got right now Kenny Atkinson Kenny Atkinson is happy go lucky. He don't push his guys if you look at the injuries not to the point guard I But if you look at the Andre Hunter and you look at Evin Mobley those type of injuries you play through in the playoffs you go get a shot You come in two three hours extra for treatment and you push through that injury We're talking about an ankle sprained in every Mobley's case you play through that. These are the playoffs It's the culture fault by because of the because of the coach that they put into place because Donna Dimitri then like the coach I was holding people seats on the fire so now everything's happy go lucky Oh, yeah, I'm gonna sit out this way off No, you're not we're playing for legacy now and that's what that's what these these others don't understand And they don't have the culture because first and foremost we know that the that the owner is trapped We saw what he said about brine years ago.
Oh, you're not gonna win nothing We're gonna win something they go brine going nice straight finals and came back and got you one They don't know how to run the organization. They are better They've been better at procuring talent But you got you got to have a championship level coach and as much as I do like any Atkinson He you could tell that the culture isn't there Here's what I'll say to all of that and I had to do with on I won't design a video was the catalyst, but I think it's hard to make an assessment for the Cavs when they had so many players hurt It's just really hard to evaluate soft injuries can I understand but they were like three to four guys Bro, they were playing reserve guys out there. It's just you just can't make that assessment unless you see them on the court And I and I agree with that too, and I agree a lot It's been the downfall of these whole playoffs You had every one of the teams that we have listed here with dealing with some type of injury from a start All the four teams were talking about and some serious injury now bosses was later on the course was still they were dealing with stuff And you really can't assess it, but you can look and say like, you know This shows notorious for saying we're gonna hold your feet to the fire if you're the leader and Donamitch was the leader of that team and I think that if they showed a better showing then I would feel a lot better about his situation But I'm not saying it should have won. I'm just saying it should be not Multiple diss me on his point leads.
I agree with you. There's no what he did show up as the leader to that team He's what 50 points in the loss like it's not a lot more he can do as the leader of that team, right? Like I can't what was that was that right? Lead that they have in the game I don't know.
Yeah, they were they were up. Yes, and he scored 50 points So I'm saying he blew another time of a Mitchell if I'm down of the Mitchell There's not much more that you can ask for from me I got people on the bench heard y'all people saying what he said about his coach like it still don't follow Donovan Mitchell up So I'm going into the offseason which is a conversation that we're having down a bit Mitchell not the person that I'm looking at I may be looking at the coach I may be looking at dog that dude with the afro who would like somebody off NBA jam I Before LeBron before a B play with LeBron what was a narrative about a Venus that is to a degree soft Had a B had this rap sheet of being soft and not playing through soft injuries LeBron through the media said hey, we need him to be on the court And you got to play through the ankle sprains. You got to play through the knee sprains You got to play through that you're not gonna be out a hundred percent the whole year and what they're ad do And he's sucked it up pause and he played through this type of injuries You know what I'm saying? He did so all I'm saying is as the leader of a team you have to demand that from the others He's so my thing is when and I want to talk about the nuggets So we didn't get a chance to really talk about the nuggets if we talk about failures as a leaders When we brought up the fact that LeBron need a whole Lucas way into account He may get blamed for that big as I was saying like why is that LeBron's fault?
My thing is like Lucy. I'm not trying to gloss over Donald Mitchell's mistakes and and and Fumbles that did cost him a game probably two games But I can't argue against the nigga who averaged with 34 five and six or something like that in a series and everybody knows He the number one option like he would a little kid in the end I was like yeah, he's the best player if they probably run the office through him and he still scores what he scores I can't you got to ask for a white boy named Jerome that was starting You know I'm saying like it's like we don't really like my that's what I'm saying is like they need to go out and legit number two Somebody because there is gone and never moby they ain't it for me That's all I always tell y'all regular season on me shit to me because we see all these up and down These players don't get to a few other topics where they look one way the regular season They look like shit in the postseason now with that foot Hey, let me cure it up niggas for Rob Costa top of the evening everyone last year he blew a 20 point lead at home In a game seven this year he gets blown out by 30 points in another game seven And we finally hold Nick a lot Choke it. I'm a guy much pride can't read it with Ever heard can't have been reading no, no Before we answer that this I Yeah, well real quick The Cavs they got hurt. It's hard to say boss and cell just they were losing with both of them The only thing I would say with the self is instead of trading Jalen Brown can we can we trade Missoula because he is absolute garbage You know the Warriors they've got her it hard to really judge that team performance, but the nuggets Outside of game seven where Aaron Gordon got hurt and he played hell of a game hurt MPJ had a little bit of shoulder injury, but and maybe that impacted how he was shooting because he was awful They were relatively healthy the issue with the nuggets is they need a bench their benches is completely awful Yeah, this is why Mike Malone got fired and this is why the GM got fired as well Shrlder came in and saved them in game six when he out scored the the The Okay, see by by himself.
I think he had like 16 or whatever I can't remember the score in that third four quarter running went on but um yokish man That's twice. You know made it and he hasn't gotten it got it done Now this time he was on the road. It was a close game was like 80 all and then shit just went crazy for him and no No, I think I'm getting the game Because Denver was up early and then yeah Jaylen Williams went on that crazy run in the second quarter and then it was a wrap from there Joe Kich I don't know what the hell he was when he just fucking disappeared My thing was like I said the last week I was like bro They had to win game five and ended on their home court in game six otherwise it was a wrap and I first It looked like it was gonna be competitive and then the okay see they didn't let me just get away with being some young hackers But I swear to people what just happened in this game and I'm like they like hacking but they lend them place So fuck it, you know, however, you get it however you get it, but yeah, I just think Denver was just oh They just got old quick, you know saying and like obviously everybody's gonna look like that against okay see But it was really like night and day with some shit like there's some nights where look like okay They just can't stop joker and they for the most part they couldn't other times It was like what can't say they just got overwhelmed with youth like it was like off the bench It was like everybody's shit was doing his thing. It was just like joking one signature game to me Yeah, too, but they lost that game.
Yeah, he scored 40 dinner 50 points Yeah, and that was the game they should have won hamstring injury to Aaron Gordon hurt them really bad because he's the the trap Matchup. He's the heart and style matchup He's the guy that can switch from a big onto a guy on the perimeter And then he was hitting big big shots like not and not just like dunce like a tip and don't we talking like big 3s and that injury you could tell he wasn't the same I want to say it was early in the game. He went to go for like a little He was like looking for the contact versus exploding and dunking on somebody It was he just and that hurt them because they really relied on him Aaron Gordon play like their second best player That's true that's true fifo and if I were doing the own watch that's in Jamal Murray the nigga we'll be talking about He's the one that's the reason losing these series like you right you have been saying as a mom Murray has not like we saw it in one Play-off run as far as when they will win today's championship Oh, this is the cap of what Jamal Murray can be and it's great and he can be the second best player on the championship team We ain't seen that shit since we don't know where this dude disappeared to I can't been nowhere now for you Didn't play off me. Hey, you're right because I was I said he was the reason why they wanted championship He was in that fourth quarter's ball in he was he was killing people in the fourth quarter You would have thought that he was like a legitimate number two if not one eight In the series yeah, yeah one good game and I was game 60 play well But It wasn't a one eight or a two on a championship team.
That's what the dimming nuggets of missing Yeah, my reporter did he I mean he's a person Like we say Aaron boy was hurt he was on one leg Which use like it turns out to my mother had a flu he's sick we had a We Tomorrow Can you say that earlier they have no bench like bringing wrestling and When you don't get enough from your starters and we like say we know Aaron Gordon was down when it mattered the most He was hurt and you needed him and stuff up what you get from mpj is like extra that's extra so I don't even consider that But you're right Luke you need it you needed your mom or to have a tomorrow Murray signature game in a game Seven I think but okay set down for like five minutes and they were negative 14 in the time He was off the court it was it was something ridiculous and that whole series every time he went out of the game It was it was that's right. That's why I said to get they looked all compared to them They just looked all like old and tired and I they can keep up a little bit But then they just got the war down and it's fucked up that Jordan moving forward came no way nobody ever be sick at They can't jump how sick he dropped a double nickel one time he had the flu fuck what you talking about So we'll be right back after this quick break Dead in hip-hop for the last 14 years have covered the culture with authenticity Some of you may remember the golden era of hip-hop or the blog era to present day when you had the great kid Le Mar versus Drake beef Danny hip-hop has been there for it all but Danny hip-hop is not just stuck in the past They're also finding tomorrow's legends today putting you on to artists the mainstream hasn't discovered yet experience hip-hop through the eyes of those Who have lived every era join our community on YouTube patreon or wherever you get your podcast dead in hip-hop no politics? No BS that's a good and read right there Whoever this Did you ever give anybody cuz I have we need to talk I can do it on watch real quick. We can do it on watch.
I got you my own watch today is RG3 RG3 based on comments About the angeles Caitlyn Clark thing which to me It's been a well-overblown situation It was just a hard-filed and to come back like most players do in basketball But for some reason with WMB games, it's blown out of proportion and it turns into a black-white issue RG3 man, you should have just stayed out of this one. He called it hatred He he was talking you know kind of reckless about angel Reese and to me He was just wrong. I mean he was just wrong cuz he tried to walk it back after he was called out by Ryan Clark But for me was too late. So my god RG3 I Tried to walk it back and say he was talking about basketball Yeah, hold on commentary hold on commentary for that We gotta try to get into that then we need to get into it.
I'll catch up catch up to the show So let's jump to the game that's on now And the series is on now. So we have the Oklahoma City Thunder They defeated the Denver Nuggets at home at OKC on Sunday afternoon 125 to 93 to advance to the West Conference Finals where they will face the Minnesota Timma Wilkes Who was the best player in the series and who do you have winning and and how many games? I'll go first. I have and it was as the best player in the series.
I do think it will go 7 I think they will go down to the wire And I just think that it was this is the year that he's going to make his run for championship My ideal matchup is him versus the Knicks in the finals him going to Madison Square Garden getting his first ring But I guess great SDA is great and I just don't think he has the same will to Anthony It was has and if y'all listening to the background like I am it's being put to the like it's being put to the course Like as far as how much did he wants it versus the cool laybacks down the SDA has just cool a regular season That's fine. You do all the smooth shit You want to look close that you wear but Anthony was is different And I think he's going to show it and he's next two rounds of the playoffs never react over yet to game ones Lou never I'm reacting all like the Kingslayer though I'm reacting on beating the rant and LeBron and stuff and all and joke it's I'm reacting to I think that he has that in him I go to what Nick says the Thunder are still young and I think the SGA is a hell of a skill basketball player But that thing the Anthony Edwards has that's where no I want to kill you I want to let you know that I'm better than you when he was talking shit And we see that image of him talking to the ranch they can say like yeah, and it's you don't have that yet And I think this is what's going to care That's crazy. It's your thing. SDA is the MVP in league.
Look. Thank you for no. Thank you for the coach I was gonna say this is Atlanta. You got a developed a lot earlier than you do in Canada.
Well, I was I was gonna say this is the ultimate Canadian black man, you know, I'm saying or American black members is international black man You know I'm saying like this is the ultimate series for that I got wolves and six and that's only off the strength that I respect an MVP in this series But I really want to say my heart says wolves and five but I'm gonna say wolves and six just because I Grew with and is the best player in the series and might be the best player in the league might be depending on how this shit Go, but this is him making his claim as a face of the league I think I'm not sure I'm not gonna judge a SGA as far as like say that he doesn't have a dog in him like And it just may look different but my thing is and already went through this once He's not going through this twice in my mind. That's what he has and it's my I lost I should have went to the finals last year. We probably could have beat Boston and I probably would have said it the worst Made it instead of Dallas that would have been that's a different series to me We may be looking at table and all them differently after that But I think that I think Minnesota can actually go to the finals this year And I think that it was surprising or at least a surprise America How good Minnesota really is and I don't know who was talking about this first half and how they look right now But I think they can keep this up now again I'm giving two games to SGA because he's the MVP, but I think this is they coming to MSG kid That's what I'm hoping for I think you'll be in this special You're being disrespectful Let me get through what I'm saying So I'm saying you're being disrespectful because okay see top the bottom is the better team the question is who's the better player I agree with swiking Nick And ae mr. Antman is definitely the best player and what what Spike is talking about man It's a cultural difference nobody on this panel has been to Canada yet alone Toronto But and my best friend is from Toronto, you know saying grew up there and grew up here in Atlanta He could tell you that it's a cultural difference the way that you grow up over there I'm not saying that you don't have a dog because you can't be the MVP of the NBA You don't have no dog in you so I'm not questioning the fact if he does or if he doesn't but it's different Especially when you come from a city like Atlanta ae's dog is a bigger dog with a bigger bike and a bigger bar You know what I'm saying?
So he talked that stuff and also he's a football player first he liked the contact he he built different bro and My heart says I want the Minnesota to win and that's who I'm picking because I want to see Ant win the championship because the whole narrative of the Kingslayer being the youngest player to win a championship You know saying I'll I'd be way you know I said but the way had an aging shot But he still has shot shot help him get there in the way took it over the top and is really literally You know and Julie's Reynolds have a hell of a game But we know that the whole reason why they even here is because and all that being said I think okay See's the better team when I'm picking with my heart this round so I'm picking Minnesota in 7 Yeah, I grew up is It's crazy to say this because like I said this year is the MVP of Lee I believe at this point. I just think he's been terribly inconsistent at times So for me and is that guy but I still think okay see as a more complete team I think it's still early. They just got hit with a great shot by Minnesota They only down four points. We're talking like you think they down by 20 No, they only down four points and SDA is not playing well right now So this is your time to win again This is a game just you gotta have but I just think okay see you got a little bit too much And I think it's gonna come on in I do think and it's gonna push it seven games But it's tough to I don't think rounders gonna be able to keep it up So you got okay see in seven.
Yes. Yeah, I try to skate. I like no, no, no I said that first I said that first yes, okay, see It's gonna be rough seeing and not make it to the finals again But I got okay see it's in six Julius Randall has been playing a amazing I don't know who this is He's in Julius Randall. It's crazy, bro.
It's crazy That's why I picked against them in the first round against the Lakers I know he's gonna do this and do it in the second round again like it's smiling and laughing about it Like it's easy. That's why I question if people and he said that okay sees the better overall team I'm like bro, if you kind of go down the list, I'm picking them I think it's a wash. I just think if you would be like more shaker in I think Yeah, I think you can bring wiggas off the bench you can bring Wallace off the bench, but I'm improving it is though No, okay, that's what I'm asking this okay, so you have a better player than Aaron Gordon Well, you said Aaron going not healthy No, Aaron Gordon is it the air go up in I will put them out with them at the same or if I will know It was way more consistent in James Williams was Yeah, he was clutch clip. Yeah, I'm gonna give him his props, but I just think that look man It's just like I said against in the last series with that's why people will be Denver They have been a better team all year period.
It doesn't matter I know and it's hard to really judge Minnesota because we the version of Minnesota that we're watching now We haven't seen this all year so I don't know They were barely above 500 but they they got out of the play in they won their way out of the play into the 60 And they were rewarded with the Lakers and they and they proved that they were about a team right What I'm saying is that okay see has been this since the start of the season all the way through okay see came together They had new players in there to figure out everything work and then it kind of figures it out They got incredibly hot and then they've been rolling and they just been you know stop it through everybody You know granted curry was out last series last series But okay see it's been a better team bro, and I think they learned a lot in that last series They were in some very very crucial games that they could have lost game for game five Like these were moments that they grew up where you know people and Q were coming over preaching us about them being too young and saying They need to be able to do anything, but they were the best team all year I wasn't gonna give them that excuse and they came out on you know I'm not giving them excuse period. What's doing the final four you and the final four? You know I'm saying like there's no excuses my thing is that all year and no one picked this team Was quite comfortable We were having a conversation here on the show and he would bring up okay see be in the favorite to win it all and It was excuse after excuse and Nick was like why not? I don't get it blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah so I get you in what Vegas was saying but on this show So we were trying to figure out why can't OKC go to the finals if they're the best team all year.
And those excuse out there, excuse out this excuse. Yeah, I can't say that young. I'm like, bro, that's not going to change next year. They still going to be at Co-S team next year.
And they already had it last time. Yeah, I'm more experienced. Yeah, it's not about age. It's about experience.
That's the difference. First time they've been here. That's the age was here last year. That don't matter because it's 2019.
We've had a different championship champion. It's a team every year since 2019. We have no repeat chance. That means there's a lot of new blood getting away.
It's actually been so interesting. That's the crisis of the last two years. It's been seven. Yeah, 2019.
Look at the Celtics and what they've endured since they won that championship. They went to a finals. They went to a conference. They've gone through the losses in order to make that win.
Oklahoma City still didn't get that yet. So it's still a feasible possibility. If they get here, and Anthony Edwards is able to take over these games, who would go bare? Is able to do something crazy?
Young man's, Julian Srano was able to do something. They just are not experienced enough to be able to win the series. That's a really likely possibility. Yeah, it probably is because they've been here and Anthony Edwards know what it's like.
But I think OKC, if they don't win this game, they lost game one last series. And that was against the championship team. Like these guys who are winning in clutch moments. Yeah, you know, and they found ways to win that.
I don't think we know that the moment is not too big. Because that's, yeah, I'm talking about the second round of the playoffs. Yeah, I'm talking about the first round of the playoffs. We're not talking about an Eastern conference finals against people with experience and have done this before.
We've been an era. We've been an era, Kim. We've seen this happen. We've seen this happen with joy.
We've seen this happen against the Pistons. We've seen this happen where it's like, oh, they just don't have enough experience to be able to do this. It's like I'm a challenge to your point, which you just said, because you said that they're going to be against the team that's experienced and that's been here before. Was that not Denver?
It was. And that's part of the role that a team like them go on to get to the conference championship and lose deal, because they ain't got the experience that Anthony Edwards has. We know what come in to Denver, hey, we know the injuries, we know all the things. We talk about tomorrow, no bench, whatever it may be.
Minnesota's a different team. Anthony Edwards is a different person. I don't know if it's going to matter with all these goofy ass fouls that bro. OK, see, I was cooking.
Yeah, I don't know how that was a foul. And the playoffs at that, like, y'all in all this sticky text shit going, and y'all going to call that goofy ass shit bro. I feel you, but the way I look at it is, oh, we just said, they just took a great shot from Minnesota to start this game. S.E.A.
is brief of 14 in this game, and they're up to now. So in saying that, you've got to have these type games. You need a 10-point lead at this point, and it's still ain't comfortable, but you need to be up at this point. I just don't see them keeping him down like this.
So he goes with him. He's three for 14 in the first game when I was in conference silence. He's not in there with him. And what I'm saying is, he's not three for 14.
He's been over for. But in the end, he's losing the game, Lou. That's what I'm saying. They tied it up right.
It's too early to call. They're going to game. It's still going on. No, it's still going on.
I'm not saying it's not going on. I'm not saying it's based off runs. No, no, the only thing I'm saying is, you know, in some point, I expect him to get it going, don't you? Who?
Yeah, yeah, he's that good. He's going to get it going. He's still nervous though. That's what I'm saying.
I don't know when those nerves are going to kick in. And when I'm not going to kick in, I don't think it's nervous. That's going to cost him a game. That's what I'm doing.
I thought Minnesota will lose this game because, OK, see, just game off again. So they thought they would be more ribbed. That's what I thought. Yeah.
Yeah. But Spike, I don't think what we're saying from SGA is nerves. I think it's just an adjustment because all of these Minnesota dudes have the height and the athletic, the athleticism that Denver did it had. So like early on, when you see the in and out spin, go to the layup and the dude was there to block it, Denver wasn't doing that.
So it's an adjustment here. That's a fair point. Yeah, I don't think I don't think it's scared or not being in the moment is an adjustment. But it's a fucking dog.
I'm just like, this seems to be shot. It's not been here before shot. And this game ain't different. And different, bro.
Let's get to the best series of the playoffs. You got to do this round. Oh, yeah. 20.
Yeah. His Robin role is the heart. It's the heart of his heart. His second half in the playoffs has been crazy.
Like he just kept firing. He's the only real question before we move on. Does it mean anything to beat Denver in the playoffs anymore? Yeah, not after this year.
Well, this year, I still think it did, even with the injury to Aaron Gordon, I still think people favored Denver because you had joking with people still think joking is a great play in the world. So in saying that to beat them, I still think it matters. There's still world champs, even though they didn't win it this past year. It's still like you still think that they're a level above where OKC will is based off experience.
So I would still have expected them to win a series. So the win that series meant a lot. And the comeback after the first game. My thing is that if if Aaron Gordon's hamstring wasn't as tight as Shelton's jersey, they may have won.
They might see what they might have seen. We may have seen never, you know, have hosting a home game right now. That's all I'm trying to say. I think that I think it matters more to players to be LeBron Curry or Katie than it does to be Joker.
Yeah, I agree. I agree. We can't. That's right.
Yeah, from a legacy perspective. Yeah, I want to be a Joker hadn't reached. Joker hadn't reached. Yeah, I don't think you're going to get one chip.
You only got one chip. Yeah, you only got one chip. I don't think I'm going to win. Right.
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All right, man. We need to talk. We need to talk. We need to talk.
I might take on watch too. I think I got something up for that. But we need to really have an honest conversation about Jimmy Butler. I think Jimmy Butler, I've argued with you guys over and over the years about him being a superstar, about this, that, and the other.
And I think he has been one of the most overrated, overhype players of the last five years plus. And I think he went on an incredible run. But what I saw in that series, I saw a quitter. A quitter, so that was so evident that Ethan was hurt.
The way he had to call him out. And the way he had to call him out, holding the one thing Jimmy Butler would never see. A champion, a final was MVP. He was holding that while he was talking.
This isn't just me saying this now, like Shelton P.O. A great Heat legend was saying this man wasn't even looking at the basket. And I was so glad that that video came out because it just lead gives more credence to the things that I was going to come on here and say. Shelton was even saying, oh, this man, it's hurt.
Something wrong. I don't know what's wrong with Jimmy. Jimmy, maybe Jimmy, maybe Jimmy, hey, shit. You know, when he needs to be.
When Steph got hurt, I saw a man that quit on his team. And I did not see somebody that was hurt. He had one good game after Steph got hurt. And then he was in my air.
Once they lost that game, Jimmy said, fuck it. I'm going fish. Hey, I'm this. I'm two things can be true.
Everything is saying is right. But at the same time, Jimmy's the legend. So let's not do that. You know what I'm saying?
He was hurt. He was hurt. He was hurt. No, no, no.
He's done this before. Spike, this ain't the first time he's done this in the playoffs. He's done this before. He's done this before.
He did an affiliate in the game, seven and Philly. He's a pretty sure he's done it. He's the, he's a toxic player. He destroys everywhere he goes.
He tortures the ground. And I agree with it. And he gets asked for it. But he gets results.
He's a competition. What results did he get? He got the two finals. My thing is that yes, he's the Hall of Fame because he's done more in his career than Reggie Miller.
Period. No, don't even don't even get it. He put a really, he put a really, the best of Reggie Miller and he's shit compared to that. I was saying that.
I was saying that. I was saying that. It's a misdirection to get you. Jimmy Butler's failures.
We just need to be honest about Jimmy Butler. I'm saying, I said, I said, I said he was right. Because I would quit too. What stuff is going on, and I bust my ass literally.
I'm done. That's right. This shit. I got my money loop.
He got paid before that series started. It started. It started. He got, he got paid.
He carried that Miami franchise since D. Wade left. He tried to tie that. He quit on the whole franchise, bro.
He quit on the whole team. He got him up out of there, bro. He was injured at all. Not to the point where he's going to play.
Jimmy can still play. Because you understand him being like, I'm not going to be the one to carry the team to the whatever. Here's the thing. Here's the thing.
This is why this one makes it worse. All Jimmy had to do was win one game. No, I don't. No, no, because ant told L.
Wade. That's the issue. On the court. And they were trying the win one step after the game.
He said he went out about the state. He went out about the city, just a very late! What did he say? He told him.
He told him. He said, he said, y'all just try to win. So step and get back in. He said, he ain't gonna happen.
And he said, and he told his promises. He said, it ain't gonna happen. And that's exactly what it was. And got him up out of there because he didn't, I want to see stuff.
Because they ain't knew what was up. So if aunt knew that, if the Warriors knew that, and all the media knew that, we're gonna move on, then Jimmy knew that shit as well. Jimmy just went trying to do it. So now, bro, get Jimmy up out of here.
I don't know. I don't know. I think Jimmy is a solid three on any championship team. I think he wish I would take up Eagles back now.
I forgot the same people. Get that shit out of here. No, no, get that shit out of here, bro. It's already a Hall of Fame, J.
and tomorrow. Some shit. No, get that shit out of here, bro. We'll be talking about it.
Eagles back now. What did they say, Sheldon? We're here to talk about the 2025. Hey, yeah.
Let's move on. Because I, you know, once again, I'm a prophet. But the New York Knicks destroyed the Boston Celtics at home in Madison Square Garden. And that was about Jimmy Butler, by the way.
The New York Knicks destroyed the Boston Celtics at home in Madison Square Garden. And that was the first time I ever played the Boston Celtics. I mean, the 81 to advance in these two conference finals to face the Indiana Pacers. Who is the best player in the series and who do you have winning and in how many games?
I don't even think this is a, like, Jalen Brunson is a best player in the series. Oh, what? No. God, I'll burn the second best player.
It's a unique way. It's a very unique question because they both do two separate things that are equally as important for their teams. With a coach like to Junide, that point guard or really just that one player who's just the engine of the offense and carries it. He's not a complete cone.
But this might be the one series where Ric Carlisle tries to target Brunson as a defender. I imagine that Tiff is going to want to counter by putting someone like Josh Hart or maybe OG. He might be a little too long on Tyrese, but Tyrese, what he does for his team as the distributor and making everyone better. It can't be discounted.
Not till once again, take a shot at my brother Shelton, but it's like contrary to popular NBA belief, Tyrese Halliburton is who a lot of people think LaMella Ball is as a distributor in my personal opinion. If we actually look at how he sets up his teammates and if you look at the three point shot, they both have those jerky shots, but one is leading to winning on top of not being a complete cone on defense as well. If you ask me who's the better player, I would want Jalen Brunson personally because I'll take the offensive output. But for what Ric Carlisle wants his team to do, and when you look at how that team of Indiana is comprised of what many would consider just guys outside of Tyrese, that shows you Tyrese's value as really just a true point guard.
He's in that Jason Kid vein, minus the defense, but I think Jalen Brunson is definitely my personal kick. I mean, we got one that's playing better right now. I don't know if you got one in queue and how many games? Indiana in seven.
You said I didn't say that. Go ahead, people. So I think Jalen Brunson is playing, it's hard to say like better basketball because both of these guys are playing exceptional basketball. I think what you're talking about between LaMella and Tyrese Halliburton, the difference is efficiency.
There was a stat that I was telling be the other last week in NBA history. Tyrese Halliburton is fourth all time with 15 assists zero turnover games. You know what I'm saying? He's done it in like 200 games where like everybody else had, you know, five, six, eight hundred thousand plus games to do that.
So for Tyrese to be that efficient is ridiculous. For him to be as young as he is to do that. So they do do two different things. But right now, again, I'm not, I don't know the phrase to use because it's not better basketball that Jalen is playing, but he, I could, it's not even more clutch because Tyrese Halliburton has been clutch.
Like that three that he hit, you know, off at a misfrito. Like that's clutch as hell. And then beating the number one team in the East and five games like that's clutch, you know, in Tyrese Halliburton is that engine. But Jalen is just grittier right now.
And like you said, for a Thibidot team, he just fits the bill. But again, for a Ric Carlisle team, Tyrese Halliburton fits the bill. I got New York in seven because I feel that in the way that the playoffs have played out from a referee standpoint, from a cost perspective, they've led them play that is advantage New York advantage Thibidot. And that's the only, because I'm not going to say that they're evenly matched.
I do like New York's talent a little bit more than I like Indiana's talent. So when you allow them boys to play, they're going to make sure that they're going to get scrappy. So I pick the mix in seven. I got.
I got Jalen Brunson as the best player in this series. And I got the Knicks in six. A little too much people were saying it's out the rest of it in play. I don't think that they will, they're not going to allow the Pacers to take this series from pity pat battles or whatever it may be.
But with the minute that they have all the wing players in an offensive options that they have with. They built a perfect roster to be able to do what they need to do at this point in the playoffs. So, and which I am Brunson doing what he needs to do. I got the Knicks in six and I got the Brunson's the best player.
Taylor Brunson is the best player in the series in this. To be honest with our question, he's had a hell of a season man in a hell of a playoff run. But I still got the pace is in seven. And the reason being is I think they have what I just really think the depth is going, what's going on.
And be mindful of my turn down stretch. I think turn is going to have a big series. I don't know what give me that feeling. I just don't think the Knicks are going to be able to match up with him.
And I don't trust can't. I don't trust can't. I don't. I think he would be the never's Michael.
I think he's going to be the difference Michael. Can't I go on the road. Of course. Who in the last 10 years has said, oh, my own turn is going to be a difference.
Nobody. I'm crazy with that Nick, but I feel. I feel. Oh.
Before we need to have a conversation about Tom Thibber. That may be another day, but he's reached the pinnacle that I want him to this season. Get this thing that he's a conference final. You make a trade for cat and you blow up the roster that was one game away from getting to the Eastern Conference.
Last year the expectation is that's the level if not further. And I'm more happy and shocked that the Knicks are. I got the next starting position. I ain't going to talk about health.
I'm just going to say the Knicks are in position to continue on with their starting five that has clearly grown together since the end of the regular season. I got the Knicks in seven to cover my bases, but I really my heart is saying next in five because the best player in this series to me is Carl Anthony towns. And I need him because when I came into this whole season. Or to the end of the season saying that the Knicks need to focus on their late game execution as a big key can if you look at their playoff games, all the majority of their wins came down and we were the better team when it came down to stretch.
I need cat to show for three out of the four wins that they need to win this series because if he doesn't, I don't know how this series. But that's the reason why we traded for him. That's why I'm saying like this is where this is where you can't depend on that. You can't depend on him being the best player.
Three out of having the games versus once and being the guy all throughout the series. That's not what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I'm not worried about what Brunson can do.
But at their piece, who's more unstoppable? Kat or Brunson is watching. At their piece where I've seen Kat win us a game against Detroit when we get into it. I've seen Kat be able to easily get.
He's one of the few players in NBA history to average it double double like 2012. Like this makes that's his average. And we're saying the same thing about Kat last year in playoffs by the way. And they lost.
Listen, listen, listen, we ain't been to the next thing, been to this part of the playoffs in the end of 25 years. So it's like at this point, we got to go. You gotta push the chips in. You're going to push all your chips in.
You're going to do it the now. Kat has to show up. I don't know what he doing right now. I don't know what his, what's that?
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. His grandma, whatever that somebody need to talk to him and say, look, this is your time. Nick, he do got to show up. But you would depend on Brunson more than Kat, right?
Yes, but that's as being clutch. I said, the best player. No, no, period, not clutch moment period. I mean, I'm not going to go anywhere with this.
In theory, Nick is right because Kat is the bigger player. He's the more dominant player. He had the better pedigree coming out of college, all that stuff, right? We know this.
But the reality of the situation is that Jalen Brunson, to people's earlier point, he's playing the most impressionable basketball play to play. I don't know if it's necessarily the most impactful in terms of any player left in the playoffs, but you feel the impressions of, oh, man, they wouldn't be here without that three. Oh, okay. They wouldn't even have been in position to get that corner three from OG if he didn't push the corner if he didn't set the tone or set the table.
Kat, to me, is an enigma because you need him probably two or three games like Nick is saying for sure. But I can't say that they brought him to New York for any other reason than to be like Robin to Jalen Brunson's Batman. And I think that at some, you know, in some of the comic books, you know, me, Robin say the day from time to time. It wasn't every day I'm comic book, wasn't even mostly 20% of them.
But he came through sometimes. And I think that's what they're looking for. For me, this all is going to come down to coaching. And that's why I have to give Indiana the leg up here because I think that Indiana is a smarter basketball team and they're a more full and healthier basketball team, clearly, than Boston was.
I think Boston beats themselves a lot because they have so much quote unquote talent that they just rely on the talent to do what they need to do. To me, Rick Carlisle so meticulous in how he runs offensive sets and he needs a point guard like a Tyree's like a Jason kid, so on and so forth, to set the table that they can name factual points. And I think that Pascal and Miles Turner are going to give Kat a lot more problems, which is why Brunson's going to have to eat. But my thing is just because you're the best way to lead a leader of the team, I'm saying we saw that in Miami Heat days with LeBron and Wade.
We saw that in the, oh wait, the coldest day days with the ball. The coldest day days with KD instead of like- Are you saying cash to leader team? No, I'm saying Brunson is. You look like the things that he was talking about is leadership, like if we need something to have to go to our leader, but when we need someone to be dominant, we have to go to our best player.
And I'm saying that again, I know what I'm saying is going off of a huge it, you know what I'm saying? And I'm not drinking right now, but I'm telling you for the next to really dominate this series, Kat has to show up in a way that we have not seen Kat show in the playoffs before. Same way we talked about Julian's Randall and what he's done so far in this league. We need to see Kat do like, he's averaging at least 20 and 12 and if not better.
Just real quick. The reason why I disagree with that is because in Miami Heat, they didn't win until D-Way passed it on to LeBron. He had to literally make that a public thing. That's all I'm saying.
I was going off the simple tip of my best player is in my leader on the team. That's it. Yeah, but yeah. Remember D-Way said, yo, this is not LeBron's team.
But either way, the leader had to say that. So we already knew it was before anybody had to say anything. Shout to where you're going to say something? No, not on that other than the fact that Nick said it best himself.
You're going to have to do something that he hasn't done. And you know what Brunson can do. So that lets you know he's the best player on the court. You need Brunson to be consistent and be himself.
If he's doing what he does, you have a chance. If it's Kat, not Brunson. Like you said, Kat won't get you maybe one or two games, but Brunson has to be consistent throughout. I got the Nixen Sitz, which is crazy, but I think in a similar fashion to Minnesota, we really don't know what this team is.
They made a lot of changes. They brought in a lot of pieces. It seems like now they found a way to gel into playoffs. They call some breaks here and there with the young, inexperienced team and Pistons.
But I think that series helped them build some resolve to climb their way out of large deficit, because they've had to do it a couple of times in that series against the team that, you know, embodied what Detroit is, just grimy, tough, hard-nosed. And when they were down against Boston multiple times in every game, they were down by double digits. They didn't quit and they kept coming back and they won and prevailed. And I think they're not going to do it again here.
But, and I think they will. I think it's a rematch from last year. And I believe that the Knicks won't pay back and this team looks very, very different. And, and I think Kat is making a difference.
All these trades they made made a difference. Bringing them a Cal Bridges, bringing in Carl Anthony towns. Yeah, it's, it's making a difference. And I think they, they're hot at the right moment.
Shout out to the Knicks front office too. You know what I'm saying? We're all right West and all of them. Like they may, they turn this franchise around.
We ain't saying a franchise like this in 25 years. They really have. So like shout out to them. And as far as my last indie, my last indie take or critic is the Q-swint.
I do think that they have the better coach. But I don't think they play as defense as well as people saying they is or what the statistics and numbers they do because they face two hurt ass teams that are skewing some numbers in my opinion can't. I don't like we don't see what I think their offense is like a faucet that can't be turned off. You know what I'm saying?
It's gonna eventually just flood that like you guys won't get flooded with three and points. But defensively they let a lot of them up for the score. So my thing is that the Knicks have to be on the defensive end have to be able to slow it down a little bit. I think I would, if I would put OG and Bridges on a Halliburton exclusively.
Let them take turns bro. Like let, let, let, let someone else prove. Let's see y'all can be able to pull out his championship bag. And he cannot stop a playmaking to the game.
What do you guys have like, bro? Brunch is a score. Brunch is a score. He's a play.
He's a play. He's a play. He's a play. He's a play.
He's a play. He's a play. He's a playmaker. He's a playmaker.
Let people talk. He's a bucket getter. If Jalen Brunson goes 2-4-11 with 15 assists and 10 points, that's a bad game for Jalen Brunson. Tyree's Halliburton ain't gonna go 2-4-11.
He's gonna go 2-4-6. We stay in Tyree's Halliburton to like five and eight and he don't say like it. But they win games. He wins games because it's not predicated on him scoring.
You know the key indicator to know if Tyree's Halliburton is having a good game? Turnovers. Is this a turnover ratio? For Jalen Brunson, how many buckets did he get?
Even if he didn't shoot efficiently, Jalen Brunson's a volume score. You want him to take 20-plus shots a game. He needs to score 20-25 points, 30 points for them to be a viable championship contender. And just to understand, Halliburton don't like what he's needed to score.
No, no, no, no. He's just a turnover. No, no, no. No, no, no.
I'll go ahead. No, I'm just saying, if you look at Rick Carlisle's team with that beat, the Miami Heat, Jason Kid as the point guard. And this is the same team in terms of how they built it up. A big man, point guard, shooters around the...
I mean, this is... And they want to get out and run. Stretch forward. Yeah, yeah.
Ty's in Chandler, Miles Turner. This is what they want to do. It's just a little bit more updated to today's game. And that's what I'm saying is that he's in that vein of even if he gets nine points, if he gets 11 fucking assists and seven rebounds all over the court, he's produced by 30 points for other people.
And I'm like, you know, don't let Pascal see, I'm going to get you 17 and don't let Nemrar get you 10 and McConnell gets six. They have guys and after an adult too. No one's worried about Nemrada. All of them are names that came to the spell.
All I'm saying is that I'm going to say that. And that's how people lose because they just count them because they can't do it. I'm not discounting them. I'm just not going to count on them.
My thing is with the point of Halliburton with the OG and the McCallopters, I want him to just run whatever fucking going. I'm not saying that Halliburton is... They can. That's your point.
That's your point of 30. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I want. You just a hater, Nick.
That's all it is. And you don't know basketball. Who was the best in that series? I mean, what are you thinking about the playoffs so far, brother?
Just as a whole. Well, as a whole, then, give us your outlook on the conference finals. Oh, I mean, I love it. Y'all love all, man.
So, yeah, I mean, originally I was hoping we was going to have two number one season at Eastern Conference, Western Conference Finals, but, you know, Cavs, they, Cavs, they stuck it up. And I'm not going to throw the injury excuse out there because they only missed them one game. They had it. They had them all the rest of the games that they lost.
And then game two, they was up by 20 something and they still lost the game. So I'm not giving Cavs no lean way out. But overall, I'm loving the playoffs. I like the fact that we got nothing else said is before on social media.
Like I like the fact that we don't have four guys. That's all fishing for the first championship. Brunson, Tyrese, and Shaigill. So I'm kind of glad that they, you know, they all fight for the first, a first shift.
It's the first time I also said this on social media. First time since 1996 that we won't have Western Conference Finals played in Texas or California, which is great. It's fucking wild. It's crazy.
How many years since 1996? Yeah, the Western Conference Finals won't be played in either and or California or Texas, and the state of California or Texas. First time since 1996. That's crazy.
That's crazy. That's crazy. That is crazy. No, no, I'm loving the playoffs.
I think these conference finals is definitely, again, you know, I'm pretty sure we all appreciate the all-shin' notice. I mean, match ups and coaches has definitely been showing us why that's important in the playoffs. Why this entire playoffs? I think.
And then, you know, you're gonna get your games with other guys. Like, what I was telling you can't, I don't know what check on do this, this matchup. But Denver matchup was a-all for him. That's why he looked like he wasn't worth a damn.
And that's why he looked like he was worth every penny in the Memphis series because that was a better matchup for him. Yeah, this. Okay. See him in south.
Who you got? Who you got between these four teams? Yeah. Right now the two and two.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got, I got, okay. Seeing seven. I think this series can go seven.
Okay. Same in Minnesota. And then shit. Damn.
Brezzeman playing. So like, out man, it's kind of hard. It's almost kind of hard. But I'm trying to beat up my name.
You say what? I just said, I'm wrong. Yeah. Brezzeman playing so damn lights out, but I don't, it's like, I don't trust Nick's front court.
I don't know. For some reason I don't trust a front. I trust Indy's front court, more than I trust the Knicks front court. That's the advantage I might give him.
But the guard man, president man, he just, right, that dude. He has literally been like the best player in the playoffs, in his entire playoffs. He's been like that. He's been like that.
I gotta get, I mean, yeah, this is non-biased as possible, bro. Like I'm just going by with my eyes seeing him. Yeah, but I think I might edge it to Indiana. Like I said, because the front court, now I trust that you can turn the more than I trust.
Can't, can't, you know, Mitch Robinson. That's the only reason. That's what I think about the show. All these versions of the Twin Towers be.
See, you better show your other versions of the all these versions of the chroma brand, the food guy, stop and shop whatever reason you're looking for. Okay, so I know you're picking the Knicks. What are you picking in this Western Conference? I'm going to, I'm going to, American Black, and I ain't going to Canadian Black, and I ain't going to Canadian Black.
I'm not mad at that. I'm not, Nick, I ain't mad at that. I ain't looking good right now, but I'm still going to see you up. It's number one, come on, y'all.
It's one game. It's this game one. I'm just saying, I'm just saying it on the deal right now. But even though it's coming to Detroit, you know, when he plays out, he was not this company.
No, it's only one game. Don't be flipping over chairs after game one, y'all. I'm not talking about y'all. I'm just talking about the people that's watching the Listen, You know, watch sports.
You're talking about Spike, Spike too. Spike, I had to remind Spike to calm down earlier. I'm still standing on my mind. I still think Minnesota's only in it instead.
That's not a crazy thing. I believe in that much. That's one thing I love about these flails, at least these Western Conference, these guys. It's like, it's really no wrong answer who you pick.
Like, I think it's the wrong answer. Of course you're going to say that. Of course. I mean, you're wrapping your nicks.
You're wrapping your nicks. I've been telling you how the truth will be. I'm just going to say it's phantom. But yeah, yeah, Nick, in order for me to start to have a chance in the series, they have to win on the road.