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EPISODE · Oct 4, 2025 · 1H 35M

207/ Malcolm X and Our Modern Struggle w/ The Dugout and Mohamed Abdou

from The Fire These Times · host Elia Ayoub

In this collaboration episode, guest host israa’ is joined with Jordan and Prince from The Dugout Podcast and Dr. Mohamed Abdou. We got together to talk about Malcolm X, his evolution over time, his commitment to the below, and the role and impact of Islam on his journey towards collective liberation. Along the way, we talk about Malcolm’s impact on our lives and our politics and share insights on how we think Malcolm would be showing up today. 00:00 Introduction and Host Introductions01:45 Personal Connections to Malcolm X04:52 Malcolm X's Influence and Evolution08:48 Reflections on Malcolm X's Teachings11:31 Malcolm X's Legacy and Modern Relevance19:39 Organizational Structures and Revolutionary Responsibility29:19 Global Impact and Pan-Africanism46:17 Evolving Governance and Lessons from the Zapatistas48:08 Exploring Malcolm X's Intersectional Analysis48:47 Malcolm X and James Baldwin: A Shared Journey50:45 Decolonization and Internationalism52:30 Contextualizing Malcolm X's Strategies54:34 Malcolm X's Methodology and Ethics58:38 Malcolm X's Legacy and Modern Implications01:18:09 The Role of Spirituality and Self-Critique01:29:20 Final Reflections on Malcolm X's InfluenceMohamed :Dr. Mohamed Abdou is a Muslim anarchist scholar and organizer. He's a student of the muqawama (the resistance) and author of Islam and Anarchism: Relationships and Resonances (Pluto Press, 2022).  His work centers on Palestinian, Indigenous, Black, and people of colour liberation, and draws on the Indigenous Zapatista movement in Chiapas, Mexico, as well as his participation in the Egyptian uprisings of 2011. substack: https://drmohamedabdou.substack.com/website: ⁠mabdou.net⁠. Twitter: @minuetinGmajor Instagram: @slightlydriftingisraa’ :israa’ (they/them) is an activist scholar in a committed relationship with collective liberation. They are part of From the Periphery Media collective where they are hosts of The Mutual Aid Podcast, The Fire of these Times, and From the Periphery Podcast. They’re working towards building a world where all worlds fit through their activism and scholarship.israa’ is on Bluesky and IGDugoutThe Dugout is a Black anarchist podcast rooted in political education, decolonial thought/praxis, and deep community study. We tell stories, break down systems, and honor the voices of those building liberation from below. From interviews with Black Panthers and movement elders to media critiques and abolitionist strategy, each episode is a living contribution to Black radical traditions.Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more:🔗OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/🔗 ⁠Instagram⁠: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠🔗 ⁠Substack⁠: ⁠https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠ 🔗⁠YouTube⁠: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠🔗 ⁠Patreon⁠: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠🔗 ⁠OUR LINKS⁠: ⁠https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠🔗 Watch Prince Shakur  on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10UgHow to Support Our Work:Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠: You’ll get early access to all podcasts, exclusive audio and video episodes, an invitation to join ⁠⁠⁠⁠our monthly hangouts⁠⁠⁠⁠, and more.Donations: https://fromtheperiphery.com/donate/Check out our merch: https://fromtheperiphery.com/shop/Credits:israa' (host, producer), Elia Ayoub (episode design), ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music), ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (TFTT theme design), ⁠⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design) and ⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics). 

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