Yeah, I was going to take my training, which one other fleet. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, listening to the old car podcast posted by Peter Arondes. Joining me tonight is Mr. Hilly on the staff, a special guest star, my brother, George Arondes.
Good afternoon, good afternoon. How are you? We're doing live drive. We're in a Porsche KN, the updated model.
It's the base Povo pack, which probably cost about 180 grand to get on road. And like the fucking next five last week, where the fuck is the guistic on this thing? It's not where Porsche would normally put a guistic. I can say a P, George, where we do press up and down.
Oh, God, fuck. Are you fucking serious? So P and W had a little stick sticking out in a hole in the middle of the gearbox, would be Porsche have now put the guistic on the actual dash to the right of the screen, and there's a big bright P, that's what gave me the clear to park, and then you'll go up and down. A bright P is the press to peter park, so that goes in park.
Yeah, in park. And then that's what gave away that was the guistic. But other than that, mate, it's pretty comfortable. I'm about to drive, hold, hold it up in the middle.
What? I'll just get these off first. Please, thanks. Okay, so we're in the KN.
Isn't it? Yes, it's just the KN. They just start with the KN. It's a three litre six.
I'll go back KN. My Vod packet's got the digital display. It's got three dials. It's not your nine eleven five dollar range.
No, that's missing. Proper tax. So you've got, oh no, it's just a digital speedo, the tax in the middle. You've got a big wide screen, Porsche's going, the wider and wider and wider.
The Porsche put the sort of heat ventilation controls down where the guistic would be. If anyone's familiar with, they got rid of all the buttons on the side and they made it sort of sideways with it like glass, back a lit up, haptic type buttons. But at least there's buttons there, that's the good thing. But mate, pretty smooth.
I like the old console. How? It's moving with the time. It's moving with the time.
It's moving with the time. Yeah, with the mate, it's not 2005 anymore. But some of the manufacturers are going back to... Yeah, because their customers don't like it.
They don't like it. Well, next year. So I've got to hit up the space. It's got a taggle.
It's got a die with a speed out at the bottom. And this isn't lap with zero. It's got like a track meter. It's got a chrono pack.
Yeah. So it's... I was going to waste each other to a socket. I've got no idea.
We literally just jumped in. Porsche's came out to us for a day and a half. So George has been playing with the buttons. I've just jumped in the driver's seat.
It's pretty smooth. We're just doing your basic 60k an hour and a one late road following someone in slow. It's pretty comfy. Has it got a adjustable suspension?
Maybe. Yes, it's on the steering wheel. Oh, OK. Drive mode.
I said sort of... Ooh, is that sport? Sport plus. Sport plus.
And then you've got off-road and normal. It's got off-road. We can see the right side. There we go.
We can see the right side. There we go. It's up there. It's like a round dial.
If anyone's familiar with the AMG set up now with Mercedes. But it's like a pretty simple steering wheel. There's no button envy everywhere. All right.
Let's see what it's like to... OK. So the ring's sport plus. And make sure there's no way.
Yeah. That's fine. It's unlike a line that's never turned into everything. So let's see how this tracks.
Three, two, one. Let's go. It's like the tracks. The one you're in.
You know, he thinks on the right hand before anything happens. It's... Yeah, but I've got that. It's what?
I know. It's what I'm saying. It's what I've got before. You know what?
Let's go fast. And it seems sport plus. Like, really? We did say we're in the plavant pack.
But it's like this. Even the S and the turbo. They're all the same. They've got the S and the turbo.
They've got the S and the turbo. They've got the S and the turbo. They've got the S in the turbo. They've got the S and the turbo.
They've got the S and the turbo. Yeah. Yeah, but I still got that S there, that little bit of lag to stop people. Like, getting themselves in the trouble.
Do you reckon? I'm worried about the mum skin... Nuys the Mercedes. No, no.
They're all the same. They've got that little S. Just to the mercierzmannoo. Go, go, go, go.
Pretty brisk times. Oh it's pretty quiet. And the noise inside is pretty good. Yeah.
It's a Porsche S, but it's a family cue. So lets not muted it. Carry it away here. But it's not disappointing.
But you've got to report this for a reason, and that is just a car to fame, and you're able to walk for your business. It's not going to win the traffic. It's not very comfortable. That's very comfortable.
You've got to even in sports class, we're not breaking our backs. I'm just sitting in the back. I'm sitting in the middle side. I'm going to be viewing.
I don't know what that piece happened. I don't understand what these luxury SUVs, the middle seat is, by no means, for an adult. Or a decent size teenager. It's worth looking.
Well, that's why third-tworky is really a two and a half. It's like that's two and a half seat in the couches. It's a half. I haven't looked at the pack, but it's almost like we're trying to make a four-seater, but we've got emergency jumps.
No, they're trying to make a three. It's a two and a half seat. It's like that you've got to have your own, and they've got two and a half seat in the lounge. The fact that two and a half seat in the lounge.
Who are you putting in the middle? I'm having a guy like that, six-seater. I'm kind of looking four-seater. So now I'm sitting on the edge.
What kind of mall seat? Why I'm more comfortable? Like you could not sit in the middle. How come you're asking the middle because the middle lights flashing?
No, because I just got out of the middle. Right. Now I'm going to put my seat belt on. Ah, that's where I'm going.
Go. Not long. Here comes the middle now. Now I am.
That's good. So why is it? The middle seat. The middle seat.
The middle seat. It's beeping. You need to spread your legs that way? MSB.
Yeah. Suffering for MSB. There you go. Still doing it.
Well, there you go. Warranty. Alright, stop there. Finally.
It's just a raised bump to sit on a short journey. If you imagine putting your family in this to go away for the weekend, it's really made of booster seat in the middle of the day. So what you're saying, it's not for three kids? You'd have to really, unless you've got a wranger as your third child, OK?
It's not sitting. Oh, they're adopting. Well, this is the biggest portion I make. No, but this is the same thing as with the GLE and the X5.
The middle is this just uncomfortable moment. The other disappointing bit I found was the Justin was staring. It's filtering through to some of the other, especially the European manufacturers. Would you buy a fully loaded Macan?
Even a 10 years old, the Macan's still being sold? OK. For the same money? Is this that much bigger?
I mean, you'd be in the back of the Macan, we used to have it. Oh, I wouldn't pay the extra money for the years I'd go with the Macan. That's what I'm saying. So for the same money?
It's really still a two and a half-seater. That's right. So, the Macan's sort of handled. Well, the Macan's obviously been dynamic-wise.
It's just a bit on. It's just a bit on. It's a bit on. It's a bit on.
It's a bit on the middle. I feel like catching the trains tonight. LAUGHTER I'll go by. I can't really...
Wrapped it off. Yeah, babe. It's... Yeah, remember the fellow Smurles day off?
When the teacher walks the bus and the dogs shoot him, everyone turns up the snatching with the back, they're under waste. Wait, why do you guys panic when I drive? Like, really? Oh, no, babe.
Tell us. Have I ever been to with you in the car? But Ross has never been the same. Ross, OK.
Since you've fanged his ex-five around the bend. Which one? The guy's traumatized. I still think he has therapy.
We did the live drive in the ex-five the other week. And he took me through the most tightest bendy as fucking roads in down the ceiling. Look, I did a one-minute go. More than 20 kms an hour.
He did the six-five. He went away with his business for work in a further comments for a week. And he said to me, I'll take it with the keys after the ex-five. Take it.
And I texted him. He said to me, he's like, I'll look on back tomorrow. I'm going to get to the keys. Oh, I was with the captain.
That's all right. No, I've never been to with you in the car. Wait, what would George know? I'm going to go drive up.
Yeah, let's pick that up. What did he say? Did he have the pay-de-excess? Was it like a car?
He's traumatized. No, I can understand why he got rid of his car. If we're going to pick up the rocks. Why is he kept making up in the middle of the night saying, no, Pete?
No, no. It's all right. I'll do his wife before she's hit the rocks. Yeah, it's a good car.
But yeah, no. It's better for him. Yeah, you're not buying the badge, but it's not. It's almost.
You know, brand new one of these with a few more options. It's like using their take a money. Oh man, you're nudging 180 tonne of grand. It's a lot of money for this car.
I've been saying I've been taking 200 grand yet now. I've been saying I've been paying for 200 grand. Hey, thanks. Yeah, that's an advert.
That's not an advert. That's not an advert. They'll do it on a start-a-way ride. Like, oh no.
It's better than the Range Drive sport. Feel the stock. If anything, better than the Range Drive sport. Like, you know, it's called the creature car.
I still prefer the McCann. I still think these are like a bit of a truck to drive. The McCann sort of felt like a big hatchback. Where these feels like a big car.
That doesn't really want to be pushed. I think this doesn't have the S suspension. No, no. Yeah, so I think if you have the S suspension option, then it's driving better.
There'd be a little bit better dynamics in it. But then you'd spend 12th grade. Because it comes with no other options. Not including the electronic steering adjustment.
So do I have a family lever? I don't know. You're paying a lot of money, but that's poor. You're paying a lot, but when you're paying a lot for say a 911 for a carrera or something like that, you're still getting the chassis thrown in the engine that you've got to steer in.
It's a great car, a great handling car, a quick car, a base carrera, a quick car, you can use times when you compare it. But when you take that badge and bring it across to a KN, it doesn't translate. You're buying into the Porsche badge, but you don't get that chassis. You don't get that engine.
You don't get that handling. It's platform sharing. This car is... Yeah, this is just what the match.
Yeah, you do. This is just to match your 911 to keep the wife happy. I mean, it's quite yourself happy for that. Oh, look, it's nothing wrong with it.
Like I said, I've had two MacKons, I really enjoyed them. I just think this is, you're paying a lot more money for a lot less for not that much extra space. I'll tell you what I'm not impressed with. I did your customer.
Seriously, that is, that is, like, you can buy that off me back here. I'm sure you can, that's literally, you can buy an app that shows you nothing. I think what I like about it, how you can change everything on the... You're not actually displayed.
So you can put whatever you want on it. So George just gives you the option. So can you get a 911 look? So George is now touching the little...
I think you can change it on the cars when you... You reckon? Yeah, there you go. Sure.
It's not something that's stuck in the looks. No, it's stuck in the looks. I put the sirens on it. I think we're under cover.
Look, you can just... Listen to the play with that. Just for our listeners that can't see what we're doing. So if I put in part, you reckon you can play with it now?
Yeah, go to... Go back, go back, go back, go back. Yeah, what's back? Yeah, go back.
Yeah, go back. You get displaced like... 6.8, G4s. What the fuck?
It's under cover. No, no, no, I think... Leave it on. Customize view.
That's what we want here. Mate, compass. Hell, I don't think you can change it. You've got the three dials.
I think maybe you can change the end one. Who knows. But usually there's a button... No, no, no.
It's... That's... Oh, read the book... Is still like that real, like, ad-evan.
Between the other tech comment. Right? It just goes... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
And there's no little increments here. They could've... Really? You can see that it's just electronics.
See, I think the speed on the left's a least. speed on the left's a waste because it's it's it's a clock and a lot of face but it's got a bar graph on the left yeah and you've got the numbers in the middle I'm sure you can muck around and change it but yeah it's a pretty basic set up I can't wait to drive the 992 974 because the 91911's got the analog tacho right in the middle and it looks great yeah so so I don't like when you consider that that is no more than software fingers no but that's a rule and along tacho fingers but they've got the digital one out in the new in the 24 models the 911 yeah what the tacho goes digital digital how so they can do the analog tacho yes it'll be it'll look like the analog tacho well hopefully we'll get our hands on the 992 we'll find it out so yeah we can confirm that digital hell that's not a 992 let's see if we can see that I'm seeing I am for the 10 15 minutes we've driven it up that's got a needle that's a big that's a no-one that's a no-one that's called analog hell yeah but I don't think that's the pullback pack well that's the car just looked at the other day yes that's just so everything else is digital it looks so iconic no no it's not it's a needle where this one's full digital display ever the side doors are digital digital yeah they've got the 995 and it's got the needle on their speed up yeah in the 5th clock so they've tried to keep it in the family I I've never had a soft spot for the can like the I've driven the older models they're very truck like the gear winds this is a lot speaking proven over the last generation they're moving in the right direction it's been a while since I've driven like a K&S the V8 and the V8s have come back in the top spec models and the GT apparently is just amazing incredible so we're not pretending we're in a K> by any means but I don't know I think for the leading K&N I would do a way that it's a silver V8 I would have been bought you don't agree huh yeah I would I'm beginning I mean I mean the 8K ends 200 pass I know but that's what if you're at 180 what can I get 200 no but I'm just saying at 200 what options I can I yeah I'm not what you're saying like it you're gonna cross shop and find other brands that probably offer a lot more I don't know it's a nice looking car it's it's I know we're in the limited edition white but it's still a nice looking car I think they've done a good job that's technically they're always not looking you know it's materials are top notch like the way the steering the way it's turning the way everything presses balances there's no they've haven't cut corners in this car even though it's the above and it's got hit up so I think they've the moving in the right direction it's just that it's a lot of money for what you're getting so I still give a thumbs up pal yeah I still give it a thumbs up I'm sorry I'd give it a thumbs up I just not but as a package but not on bang for buck yeah it's you got to really have a lot of money to like to speak it up it's um like to speak it up with basic stuff that you're becoming standard at this price you start to push one a day yeah you really you really want to buy it if you buy if you're a fan and you bought this you're not gonna be upset but if you cross shot and really drove it if you're looking for a performance issue the base spec is not the one just because this Porsche doesn't mean you're getting that and not everyone wants the bait or an entry that's something we just want the car eight of the kids off and groceries and they want the best it's got plenty of space if you got two and a half kids if it's well I don't ask them this one without having a market peak well that's right that what I like about it too you don't feel you're in such a big car yeah you're driving like a comfortable car the Porsche hides it size well yeah that's always a good sign isn't it if someone gave your car for free you wouldn't take it then you got problems yes right thank you for letting us have a good day KN thumbs up I'm happy with it all right thank you for listening rate us reviewers and a sea miles I still got to a show with that we've done a lot of live drives already for the start of the year we haven't talked about the F1 haven't talked about bath is coming up with a few things to talk about getting out of parking spots around about being so there's a lot of things that have happened so I feel economy run on the beat to another beat to 100 to Melbourne a lot of things have happened so we might do a show with the three four of us sit down and just have a bit of power around the table rather than driving free cars for a couple days so thank you for listening we'll come up with some some stories in the next episode and we'll go from there bye for now you're not happy hell not happy you're very quite a bad time what's the thing you might have been on? you know what I'm actually that actually relaxes dealing with the other my life is there