Hello, welcome to Noah Plaz, just a clap. The only show that says meh, 20-inch of this week. No, pretty much. It's kind of my fault.
It's been, we've been busy and I've gotten to that much stuff. Well, we're mid-summer. There's not a lot going on TV-wise. Well, I haven't watched the American Gods finale yet, is he?
Both of us have been working a great deal. Yeah, no. And I haven't really been in the mental place to absorb anything new, so I've been re-watching things that I enjoy, you know, like Gravity Falls. I love that stupid cartoon.
That sounds stupid, isn't that like little kids twin peeks? Yeah, pretty much, yeah. Only ran for two seasons, had an incredibly satisfying finale. And I'm trying very hard not to buy their whole series of Funco Pop Dills.
There's a whole new series of Funco Pop's based on something that neither one of us gave a shit about Night King or World War I's. That doesn't narrow it down, they put out new Funco's like twice a week. I'm very upset I can't find an entire complete set of Scott Pilgrim to just flat out by. I just wanted to buy the whole set, you know, like eight or nine dolls and just have them all show up at the same time.
Is it all the axes? No, they've got actually a whole bunch of ones. They have one of envy, they have a few of, you know, since they're band members, obviously they have Scott and, like I said, obviously they have Scott and Knives and uh, what I was saying. And Knives and Ramona and they actually have a really good three, I was going to say three figures set that went by which is for sex.
I'm trying to figure out how they pronounce it in there. It's like sex. Bob-omb. Bob-omb.
Sex Bob-omb. Bob-omb. Oh, are you just going to keep saying this for like, next five minutes? Hopefully not.
But it's the name of the, it's the Mario villain. Is it? Yeah, the Bob-ombs. I never played video games.
Yeah, that's where they got the name. Sex Bob-omb. Okay, I didn't know, sorry. You know Bill Hader's the voice of the narrator on the average.
He's like, and then Scott Pilgrim was dating a teenager. And then, and I was going to say anyways. That's all the noise. Um, so let's just bang through this.
Um, I know you've got stuff to do and I am getting- When you say let's just bang through this, it brings to my all sort of horrible mental images. I'm sorry. You never just bang through an awkward moment. Yes.
Exactly. That's why I was making the face. Oh, you mean like, okay. Yeah, that's where I went, but- That's why I was making the face.
Okay. Um, oh my god, hold on. So speaking of faces, I heard the best way. To leave a place.
I'm sick of this room and everyone in it. So long jerk wads. I'm gonna make like a baby and head on out. Oh, no.
Who said that? One of my bosses. I was like, that totally almost tops. I'm out like a bone run sweatpants.
No. Um, I'm gonna make like a baby and head out. That's what it was. Oh, God.
She said it's so casually there. I was like, what the fucking do? I said, what everybody says, they don't like that though. I just immediately think of the gag and back to the future about how Biff can't get the colloquials.
I'm just wearing my- I was wearing my- I was wearing my- I was wearing my- I was wearing my- No. I know. I know- No. I know.
Well, it's because I was wearing my electrics six back to the future- Uh huh. Yeah. That's why she was making a trip. Yeah, yeah.
Because, yeah, of course. Why wouldn't she think of that? You know, like I immediately did. Exactly.
Um, so I do want to bring up Silicon Valley. TJ Miller is leaving- this was actually news to me, apparently not to anyone else. I was living under a pop culture rock. I mean, they had an article about it, probably about a week and a half ago.
Okay. Since you're very up on Silicon Valley, I just assumed you would have come across it at some point. No, I was- Miller on the Nerdist and they were talking about him leaving and I'm going, and he's got great reasons to leave. Well, here's the thing though, is that maybe not so much of this exact second, but probably when he decided to leave was a little bit closer to when Deadpool came out, so he's having a little bit more of a Hollywood career going on.
I, okay. So I think let's see where you're going with this. Like I said, I was thinking about it. I've heard him explain it, so I know.
No, go ahead. Well, that was just that, you know, he was talking about how you know certain projects where, like, no one leaves such a great project like Silicon Valley, whatever else. Oh, fuck it, do things you gotta talk about. You're, you're, yeah, I mean, it depends.
I don't think that shopping list anymore. Oh, good. Okay, anyways, there's certain projects where people don't leave, which I can't, but I feel like Silicon Valley's going on for what, four seasons? Four seasons?
So it's one of those things where it's kind of a shit-a-get-off of a plot moment. Well, it's a matter of the dynamics haven't changed and he's like, they had talked, I guess the executives had talked about like, well, you know, what do you want to do with Silicon Valley season five? You know, blah, blah, blah. I think if we leave, like, if I leave, like, it creates a new dynamic for all the characters, there's a new character coming in played by Hayley Joel Osmett.
Hayley Joel Osmett, so I said, show. I think I shorted in the letter. Who's hilarious on the show, by the way? Well, you know, it's a big thing on him in the, I'll go down with you, even though that sounds like a title for Porneo.
It was a pretty decent time travel sci-fi flick. I was gonna say, I mean, I've seen where Brown was with him as an adult actor. He just needed to find his niche. Yes, well, I like these, like, they got the long hair, the giant beard.
But I like that he's kind of the new, early Bachman, kind of the new TJ Miller of, you know, when he comes in and I think he buys, pipes, pipes, pipes, or you use the algorithm and blah, blah, blah, blah. So now there's a new character that can be bouncing off of much like, on the last couple of seasons where they've had that giant, like, little, not little, giant douchebag character whose name I can't remember, be like, prides himself on being a billionaire, I can't think of the character's name. Fuck this? He is one that talks about Jared and that guy, fucks.
Like, he always, he insists that all of his cars have like, the gold wing doors as opposed to the gap, and he's got a brand to kill called Trace Comas. That's the worst. Oh yeah, no, but you know what I'm talking about, right? But it's just one of those things where he's like, no, the rich human version of Three Peniswine?
Yes, I love it. But yeah, no, so it's new character development, so I like that. I like that TJ's getting an epic run, like, for me. But I feel like TJ Miller in a personal and professional basis needs to move on to do new things.
I can't only speak to one side of that. I mean, because a man who got arrested in the last year or so, for, you know, I was going to say, being intoxicated and insulting an urban driver, sorry, an Uber driver, he needs to move on and do something else personally and professionally. It's doing fine. He's got a bunch of stuff.
He's got a bunch of stuff coming out. Deadpool, too. Actually, at one point, he was like, I'm going to be in Deadpool, fuck, which was really funny. You know, I mean, he's doing a lot, and so does his wife, and they're doing fine, so I'm going to take the personal thing off the table.
No, I want to get that off the table. He said, there's pretty much zero positive news about his personal life for like the last year. You know, okay, what have you heard when you're based on the song? He said it's been reported.
None of it's been reported. Or Deadpool, it became a lot more high profile, instead of the occasional pieces popping up on him, and I won't be, you know, celebrity news sites that I've read. Okay, well, everything seems fine, so, I mean, that may just be up in the air. I don't know.
Don't say the new year, just think of that teeth. No, I just think of that horse living here. Okay. I don't know what, but no, so I like the idea of Hayley Joel Osmith.
Just add a new dining app. Yeah. Just changing it up, you still have the same characters. You still have Middelditch and Camille and was his head.
He's doing extremely well lately. I've seen him in a lot of different stuff as a place. I've seen him. Yeah, I've seen him.
He's just emily, Gordon. They just put out a, they're putting it in a movie. And the basic, it's great. Is it really?
Is it really? Oh, it's not over the mind. Oh, is it? Fantastic.
Like I said, no, they just put out the big sick which is really great. But he's also been doing, you know, random bit parts of cameos on a lot of network TV, which is great money. Oh, yeah. But it's also just nice to see it being kind of more normalized.
Hey, there's a Pakistani guy there and it's not weird. That's another one we were talking about. Okay. Did I actually say something racist?
No. But I do want to say that. It's really nice to see a little bit more diversity in just standard network television. And I'm not.
Also, I love him super fucking high. Demon baby. Demon baby. Demon baby.
Hell baby. Hell baby. Sorry. That took us way longer than it should have.
Actually, I actually like, what's his name? Michael Keegan key in that way more. Oh, God. So I was thinking the growth.
Face. That was it. Oh, God. I do want to give this very shortly because it has been out for three years.
And speaking of Pakistani characters, you gave me Miss Marvel Book Two. Well, that's what I accidentally got a second copy and I'm like, well, if you don't want to actually sell it somewhere, give somebody. I'm a big fan of the book. I like that it's a Pakistani teenager who is still religious, but it's an actual hero story about a character that I don't think has really been very explored very much.
Her family background. Yeah, her name specifically Kamala Khan. I believe it's the character's name. I don't know how to pronounce it.
I think it's Kamala. But no, I've been really enjoying it. And it's been, honestly, when I was reading it, I honestly felt like I was reading, like, you know, Stanley steeped up to Spiderman for the first time where... Especially with her interactions with Wolverine.
It's a very Stanley. I'm just getting into that. Okay. But it's very Stanley, her interactions with Wolverine.
But it's not only coming of eight, but very realistically taking on the dynamic of the religious dynamic. It has a playfulness to it. It does, absolutely. It has a sweetness to it, for that makes sense.
It's very endearing. And I like that the bad guy, spoiler alert, it comes a little bit after three years. I don't know if there's a new bad guy, because I only have it to the second book I do first. Well, like I said, I accidentally ended up with two copies of issue two.
And yeah, I had a book doing book one, and something else we're going to talk about, and then I got Bill's English, which I've even started. I know, I know. And I just got the call from Burns and Noble, like, the getaway gods came in, and I'm like, fuck. I can start reading faster.
No, you don't. Because you're going to hit the end of the series, and you'll be pissed off like I am, because you've got to fucking wait. Well, no. I'll probably buy a bunch more conch.
I'm only like a third of the way through Joe Hill's environment, which is like his stand. It's going to take me a while to get through that. It's really good. Why?
What? I'm just not a Joe Hill fan. You know that. Really?
I tried. I tried. This conversation's over. No.
No, it's been like four years. I should try again. Yeah, her shape box. You've met Bailey.
We're both real big fans of that. Huh. That makes me not want to be a Joe Hill fan. I said, do you see why I was a little off-put?
Well, yeah, but you've got to figure out two people that effectively don't like each other. I think this one writers do. He might just like you. You disliked him.
A great deal. Anyways, this Marvel. Love it. I cannot feel the life of me trying to t-shirt with her little late-en-hole time.
Really enough? I don't know if you'd look for a Miss Marvel or Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel is completely different than Miss Marvel. I know.
The costumes are utterly different. Well, the very beginning when she becomes Captain Marvel, but when Captain Marvel was Miss Marvel. But it makes sense in the context of the book. Yeah, yeah.
I was going to say, but I really like the fact that it doesn't discount her religion at all. No. It has to do with her having the coming of age, but still wanting to practice being a good Muslim daughter. I actually just got to the part where they make her talk to their...
Yeah, to the priest. Well, yeah, it's where they're going to. I'm sorry, I don't know what the most I've looked into. She got to do whatever they...
Yeah. I just don't know how much. They're mosques later. I'm very sorry, I'm just ignorant.
Like I said, they're talking to him and he's basically almost encouraging her to be a hero and be herself. Which was surprising, like she was so... Well, because her mother, not in a bad way, but her mother has a very confined and constricted view. There we go.
Yeah. Confined and constricted view of how a woman in that life should act. And he, which is interesting, considering that he's the spiritual leader, has a much more open view of how it feels like that behavior is different and depending on... Well, it does say a woman of a, you know...
Her a... No, a great woman. Her a... this day and age to have strength, and courage, and compassion.
The same thing as her mother wants for her, but in slightly different ways. I thought that was really interesting. The religious leader versus the family have the same dogma, but I'm sorry, talk about it real quick. Have the same dogma, but interpret them slightly differently.
It was really great. I just really appreciate the fact that they had the spiritual leader there being the person that had encouraged her to be like upright, compassionate, strong, and firm in her beliefs, but not necessarily in the same way that her parents were. Because I think sometimes that's the problem is that when you get stuck into a dogma like that, your parents want you to be exactly like they are. But the world is never the same within 40 years, or even five years, or sometimes even one year.
Well 20 years will be generation right. I say 40 because I was being able to apply it. Yes. Yeah, I mean, so I know you were heading on this one, I'm the last one on the boat with this.
It's not a deal. I don't even think this marvels, but it may not even be a comic or more. I have no idea. No, it's not cancelled.
Three years? No. No, it's still going strong. I would say I would say it's going strong, but it's still going to go on.
I will say I love the fact that there's the bad guy. It's the like Jeff Goldblum fly equivalent of trying to clone Thomas Edison and a cockatiel. Yeah, admittedly he is dangerous, but he's also hilarious. It's like that reveal was just like, okay, like, all right, it's still a comic.
Like, do you know what I mean? Like, I was like, I was like, almost taking it too seriously. I'm like, this is really fucking good. And there's these great underpinnings.
And then that happened, I went, oh yeah, right, it's a comic book. Cool. But it's one of those things where you did that. And the reason that I realized that like, oh, it's a comic book, it's because it's her best work side of Odega that's now her secret layer.
I love that she was like, secret layer, check, like, you know, identity costume. She grew up on a steady diet of superhero. Yeah, I talked about that. She read, say, Avengers fame.
But like you said, it's not just conifer for her. Like I said, it's not just, I was going to say conics, remember. That's her actual life. She's not brought up.
Yeah, remember like, in that world, like there is Iron Man, Captain America Thor Hulk. When you look at the movies, and they talk about, which I still think is a bad nickname for, but the incident in the Avengers movies. You remember we had this conversation with Lizzy years ago. while maybe one year ago when they're talking about the thing that is actually in their devil and they make some reference to quote the incident in ryan's like what would you call it nine eleven oh they met the battle of new york uh...
that was a real conversation that we have the thing is that the event of the event of the avengers when they do all of the interviews with the people and i have a little kids in the super hero costumes and then the graffiti one way or the other that's a real thing that would happen in their world absolutely i do want to say real quick speaking of of you mean lizzy um... in anniversaries uh... this week marked the to your anniversary but lizzier bus that it's a little more ruffle i feel bad for saying that let me finish my thought uh... mark eight this week well last week but you know that i'm recording uh...
last seven days marks a two-year anniversary of what's the case all the personary what was my doing why don't work on the street with kinkos anymore charlotte or something well i got it but also we're speaking of what's the case that makes me think of printing burners should be at i was going to say to come remember that remember that i'm out there of the weapons were something uh... please know what is ever listening to us right before now i just so that i can remember something on the story short i because i accidentally ended up with an extra copy of trade paper back to miss marvel gave it to you and i really like the book but like i said i know they have a canceled book and i was still going however like i said i really wanted to get a rebel kitty of the one that she wears a lightning bolt on it i can't find it that's it i'm sure it's not well but it was like six months ago but i can't imagine a different out considering the book came out what two years ago three was voted like best of twenty fourteen i don't know when in twenty fourteen came out but i said i thought it was a really interesting and a really special book about it like i said it was like i said i thought it was just playful enough for a teenager had just enough heart because of the religion that was involved and also her want to make her world better but also for me to make her parents happy but once again it's very much that that was a part of balance that that very balance that brought daily brought to spider-man fantastic for with the family dynamic or with by the like that is a high-risk makes him killer is driven to be a of hero uh... that's why i can't see it for the right section i know it is on the uh... uh...
but anyway do we want to talk about that do we have something to say about that they've put out a glutton of new spider-man homecoming marshals last couple weeks yes i'd like to like a couple weeks baby drivers next week very excited about the eventually i'll see what i want i love it i'm i'm so and i'm so okay here's the thing i don't think it can make you friends they gave him a chubby racial friend con who in the comics is really white doesn't raise the law no it doesn't con will no it can come sports it's coming out lately he looks like a chubby you know you know maybe i wonder something you might get a yeah but still it's just one of those things where one he also doesn't look like a teenager he looks significantly older i don't think so it's awkward well it's not the friends thing where they're obviously there are thirty people in their twenties yeah but it's 26 no you're not uh... no i've got a problem has been that i'm fine with the best right character it's just one of those things like it seems like he's the new chubby best friend if that makes sense and that's such an old awkward stereotype well i think when you have a character like you know i'm gonna say this i think friend of the world was a smart man's best friend you know that's right is a smart man's best friend you know a millionaire who's dad happened to be going yeah and look at that you know the movies just and for him James Franco and dang dehan not on disparaging either actor uh... disparaging James Franco a little but then since that the james rego you're kind of a dickbag to get actor and then dang dehan i really like everything he's done i really like he up to including all the spider and he seems in but uh... what's he saying yeah but like i said like what that turned out no i think giving him another like quote-unquote like maybe an outcast to bond with i feel like they did it better than Toby McWire's spider man where he had a big bond with a landlord's daughter like they were both super awesome spider man was that that was one wasn't it?
no it was two actually no it was one had no no it was two because he moved to it was one it was one it was one because he's a member of hide and let's see when from the green goblin who was bleeding that was two that was one green goblin was into i'm thinking at the beginning of two where he's laid on the rent and he's way more gels at him and then he ends up talking to the land floor's daughter slightly later uh-huh she's the very petite the very spelt yeah i was going to say the very petite one girl they actually were really good moment where they both kind of talk about how awkward they are yeah that's not i'm pretty sure that's the two because at the beginning of two it seemed trying to deliver pizza and sucking out it and then coming home afterwards and it's laying more gelling him for not having money okay they lived in that apartment in one no one he was still at home and they have a i know because mary jane lived next door no but when they had the dinner scene is on the ceiling bleeding from the pumpkin bomb cutting that was one green goblin was into it doesn't matter you want to look this up later but we are talking about what's going to be right in different ways and it's going to be super funny uh... people are listening to us screaming the answer at their fucking oh they're freaking out it's yeah it's this spider-man same thing happens every time anyways like i said i think i didn't get really super for three years under the same yet i guess when it's the last three it's terrible i'm just going to keep it in my life don't you think we're gonna spend the one and regard one and there's only three indiana jones movies exactly not just keep it so basically i take away this i'm not excited to see you spider-man and it's a little bit of a cause i was shocked at how much i love robert and junior on your name and first came out and that's one of the selling points of new spines i've got a little sorry i want to cry but i'm not going to take a little break on my throat and i want to cough like i said they have robert down julie can't go he's robert down julie uh... it sounds hot it sounds hot it's going to say they have him as one of the selling points in one the poster just a terrible poster by the way the items and posters it they have him like full-face and iron man costume it's not good it's not good and two they have him at least without a little bit of cameo talking to spider-man say it's too good with the ground and pretty much every commercial can't you be a friendly neighborhood spider-man i believe is the language i like i i like to come home to spider-man i have zero problems with him as so what is the answer to see what is the right i feel like we're retreading places we don't need to retread i feel like an origin story called homecoming okay spider-man homecoming how does that where's planet rock at a homecoming dance spider-man goes to boston and goes up against the planet rock and it's the way i was i think it's the witch of whatever was the boston terrors i think it's yeah it's really awkward that's the spider-man movie i want i don't want another movie basically just to establish him like figuring out his powers you know that's not what it is that's what i'm saying it's not it's not origin story not because it will bend i it's like it's like i get on a simple bend i like it's still a story that can seal his identity from ant may he keeps getting younger it's just been a bit of a bit of a good thing it's cool i'm very okay with it not just a minute you look fantastic yeah well she'll give the wrestler she still looks good now i know very very fit oh god chilean Anderson is still looking fine also in uh... the halee joe ozman i'll go down with you sci-fi time travel flick and they show a lot of the flea bitch yeah she plays his mother in the i think mother was good but yes i understand um no i'm telling this young man i i love it i'm so i love i love michael keith is a fucking vulture like i wasn't sure on that one but i was like well after i saw bird man he had pretty much played me bird territory feels like that was really funny and you know what no i was just yeah um but no i mean i honestly i think homecoming is going to be totally fucking worth it i honestly don't understand your reluctance it's not origin story i think it'll he's already been spider-man for months at this point i think it'll make money i think it'll be okay i'm sad he's white okay i'll give you that i'd much rather see a miles morale of stories i was too that i that i would give you that i agree with i actually wouldn't mind an origin story spider-man movie if it was miles morale is because it's a different origin story i i i absolutely agree and i get it it's all i remember everybody's white apparently he's not he's not the first half black spider-man no he's not the first don't let her he's not the first i'm sorry he's not the first half is all well you have the first half whatever he is well i'm not sure either whatever but but spider-man jennie dine was the first one the awesomely horrible half irish half-tino name of mcgell of her that you were trying but i wouldn't be that that but it was peter-dave and i guarantee it was like that's a way to not like i'm making this so ridiculously half-tino half on typewriter hands in it.
Peter David? No, no, I'm 29. Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
I totally disagree with that. Having read anyone is coming up. Now you want to talk, typewriter hands. You want to talk ravage to anyone.
Which was co-written by Stanley. And it was, I'm sorry Stan. Fucking god awful. Well, it's the thing with Stanley now is that, God, it sounds like something I say to this.
He hasn't really particularly evolved to storytelling style in the next number of years. They tried that with the DC present, Stanley reimagining blah, blah, blah. And it was like Batman was like, basically it was a combination of like, Luke Cage, because it was like he had been imprisoned wrongly, but he was like a wrestler, which is like Spider-Man's origin. Yeah, it wasn't great.
It wasn't great. This is one of those where it's not as false. I mean, we all get stuck in certain rights. He just hasn't evolved to storytelling style a while, and that's not how people would be conics anymore.
Well, you know, there's always a line, and I don't know if it's necessarily one else that said it, you might have been quoting someone else. It sounds like something that is probably an adage in terms of just being a writer. Sounds like something I would more to learn. Just saying.
But that if you write more than you read your hack, and I agree, and I don't think, and I'm not knocking Stanley, but man. Not at all, but it's like a thousand? Yeah. Well, it's just one of those things where...
Well, Prince got to be hard. Like... No, excuse me, it just hurt. But it's one of those things where you know, you find your niche and your style, and sometimes the taste of your...
And he made me the middle of all that. Yeah, that's it. So he's like, why change? Like I said, the taste of your niche going to evolve beyond that.
Absolutely. And that's what it is. It's just like, you know... It's all heavy handed.
That's, well, you know, like the thing is like, that's why I started Marvel and went to DC ultimately as a fan, because in the end, DC had darker and more adult content than Marvel. And the thing was, Marvel wasn't keeping up. I'm not saying it's their fault there. It's not their fault.
Well, it kind of is. When I bring up this point. But, you know, as an eight-year-old, nine-year-old, ten-year-old, whatever it is, you know, I'm reading Spiderman fights with him right now for the maybe million fucking time. Or how's he gonna stop the juggernaut?
Great. But then when I get old enough that I'm looking at stuff like Preacher, Sandman, Trampage of Politics, Doom Patrol, which we'll talk about later. Like, that, those comics grew with the readership. Whereas Marvel didn't.
And Marvel's gotten better about it. I'm not saying that they had it. But it's just when you were a little kid. But in the 80s, you know, for me it was like the late 80s, early 90s.
And that's the rise of version. I was gonna say an image in Dark Horse. Yeah. But like a Dark Horse was always, I think, a bit more mature.
But you start hitting around... John Fern bullshit. Because when you start hitting around ten or eleven or twelve, and you start wanting to have more interesting stories. Like you have a lot more questions about the motivation of your superhero.
So admittedly, sometimes I don't give a fuck about people's origin. But a lot of times I do want to know more. But I mean, Spawn is one of the most interesting superheroes, quote unquote, in a very long time. And he's a very dark superhero that you have to have a lot of backstory on.
Well, speaking of... And he was... what? Image?
Yeah, Spawn was... Yeah, Spawn was... And nobody's really been able to capture him outside of comics. I don't remember this the day I died.
One of the first times I'm sorry, am I talking over? Okay. You're talking about interesting origin. I think it's in the first issue of Spawn.
Where Elsemin's his return to Earth as Spawn. And he's... He's basically a fucking demon. Well, he's a literal Hell Spawn.
You know what I mean? So he's looking at his hands and he's like, no, no, this isn't right. And he tries to like, shape shift into his old self. It's all form, yeah.
And he turns... Okay, you don't know what Elsemin's looks like at this point in the first issue. No. And he turns into this like, blonde white guy.
And he freaks out and he's like, what the fuck? I'm black and you're like, whoa, wait, what? Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's shocking that he can't change into his original form.
And too, like, I didn't even know he was black to get with. Like, it shakes your understanding of the character at its core at the very beginning. And I mean, also at Spawn, you have him, I quote unquote, Hell Spawn, living among the homeless. He becomes a king of them.
And like I said, they don't even give him a second glance. He's there, he's part of their community, it's just happening. And it kind of gets you used to the idea that there are people that everything is so hard for them, that they're just going to accept whatever fucking happens. Well, that, you have to some smaller extent.
Because I... Very early on, because Tom McQuarle knew that he sucked it, right. You know, that he had all of these guest writers come on. You had Alan Moore, you had Neil Gaiman, David Simms, who did service, the Art of Art.
Not to be confused with the, you know, free head of dog from Hell. But you had all these people come in, and now this bit of in the ass in the long run, because he ended up in that retracted legal thing with the game and... Yeah, I mean, a whole legal thing. However, he did help him a great deal with his actual story of Elbert.
Yeah, well, yes, legally aside that he had, like I said, Gaiman Moore and all of them come on. It's just funny, because I can't imagine Gaiman in Moore being in the same room without fucking getting into a fistfight and more scratching him with his crazy wizard nails. Oh, no, like Moore and Gaiman and Ellison, Morrison and his Thorough friends, they all came up in the... I'd say friendly acquaintances or friend of Mays.
Depends on which combination you're talking about, because... I was talking about Gaiman and Moore. Yeah, okay, I'll give you that. There you go.
Because, yeah, because Warren's friends with all of them have colored friends. Can I? Yes. Okay.
Absolutely. What? But, you had the character of the Ostero come in. That kind of gave the introduction into, like, you know, like, well, we're gonna accept you because there's another weird, homeless angel health bond person.
But anyway, Deb, I think it's a great segue talking about weird, homeless angel demon people. What better segue into the movie chips? Shouldn't it be pronounced, chives? It's a lowercase I?
No, it's a fetch of brothers joke when he's out with the headlight. Yeah, so I finally got to run into chips with Dext. We wrote and directed it. Okay, I really like Dext.
This movie looked like a piece of shit. It's... I wouldn't say it is, but I wouldn't say it isn't. I don't like the Hollywood trend right now, which you're coming off a Baywatch.
Just, you know, Baywatch did sit well. Well, that's my whole point. And it's not a great either. But then again, like, Dext Shepherd's last movie didn't really do great.
Oh, this is last movie? Uh, the one that he wrote and directed? Hit and run. I don't think I've ever heard of that.
It's fun. I like Dext Shepherd, but I have to tell you, I thought about this because we had a conversation with a co-worker about this recently. You know the role, like, best, like Dext Shepherd is? It's all you have a month.
That's number three. Let's go to prison. Yep. Can you go in for all the commars?
Number one. Oh, right. I'm like, hitting on her. He's like, you're just like, ugh.
Number two. Oh, and the movie, is ever married at that point. Exactly. The Marana Camars movie, his cameo.
That's my favorite thing he's ever done. Number two. Him and Baby Mama, simply because it cracks me up when he's like, begging all your friends. Consider them begged.
But yeah. Never saw it, but that's any puller. The Amy Bolar Tina Fey. No, it's not worth it.
I don't think you say Amy Poehler and Tina Fey and you're like, yeah, no, it's no sisters. Sisters was funny. I like it. I haven't seen it.
It's funny. It's funny. It's just one of those things. It's weird that in Sisters Tina Fey is like the wild one, they kind of flip the script on that.
That's nice. I like that. So anyway, so it's not ships. It's good.
I'm kind of sick of Hollywood going, let's take these 70s, I know Baywatch was in the 90s. Well, no, it's a great thing. It's what I quote, like, semi-forgotten intellectual properties, these IPs, and tournament at R-rated Movies. Well, you know that phrase has been around for eternity.
What's that? There's never a story that has been told. Oh, okay. There are new stories.
There's a new place. I'm going to be at least dressed them up a little bit better. Can we pretend there's something else, please, people? But I, you know, I'm not going to see Baywatch, but not even for free.
But ships was all right. And really, if you take, taken this, out of it, it was kind of a fun buddy-caught movie with Michael Pena being like the kind of straight man. We really have Tatum Chianging took away for this because he was so De-N-Charming, a 21-jumps 3-yard. No, I know, 21-jumps are kind of fucked us on this one.
It was such a funny movie, no. 22 was okay. It was okay. It was palatable.
But yeah, like I said, we really have Tatum Chianging for this because I mean, Tatum Chianging was pretty much always funny, but he was just a surprise hilarious in 21-jumps 3. Well, look, what's going on? They're playing off each other. It's like, and they play off each other.
God, the whole thing is him a slim shady in the beginning when he's off. I was going to go like a movie, but all right. No, when he's walking around the beginning of 21-jumps 3, Chianging Hill with his hair bleached, wearing the white tee in the chain, comes across to him, chianging, or he has like the wrong kind of like 90s gray hair. It's fucking hilarious.
They're very beginning in 21-jumps 3. I don't know. They're actually in high school. Oh, Garbage Shawn's back.
So, oh, it's a pleasure. How are you Garbage Shawn? Oh, sorry. You want a clock on a Monday and you're fucking here.
Yeah, is there no rhyme or freaking reason to them picking up the trash? You make sense. You do it like when, quote-unquote, no one be home recording a podcast? Does that make sense?
Like, work at a restaurant. And a fairly successful restaurant at that. We're not at a restaurant. Oh, which, by the way, so in the news this week, Amazon bought Whole Foods.
Yeah, did you see them? But the love of God turned that fucking Whole Foods into an Amazon storefront. Okay. Did you see the funny meme about the guy, the camera of the guy that owns Amazon?
Oh, God, like Ben Zayo or something like that? Yeah, yeah. So, buy something from Whole Foods. Buy something.
Buy in Whole Foods. And it's like shit. Yes, I did. Because I think that's what actually happened.
It's actually a surprise. If I actually had any actual... There was zero whisper about Whole Foods being sold to Amazon at all. Because basically it's pretty much the price thing for everybody.
And I'm like, ooh, yay. It's a price of $13.7 billion. I'm just saying. Garbage Shawn, I beat you so much.
Yeah, like he's kind of trying to sell it. You will beat your Garbage Shawn? For the love of God, Amazon turned that fucking store into an Amazon storefront because they were so hard. You live by Whole Foods, I kind of suck so hard.
I got in the $5,000 before, got in their entire management team fired and they still fucking sucked. Oh my God, really? One. They made a massive, massive...
I was going to say health department violation because they kept dumping their ice from their seafood displays in the trees out front. First of all, disgusting. Second of all, you're going to get some poor animals fucking horribly sick. I got them falling $10,000 for that.
Two. One, they did a legal construction at 11 o'clock at night. How do I do that? I was going to say it was a snitch and leave it.
No. I was going to say it was a big re-department kept coming in at 4 o'clock in the morning and not turning off their outside speakers when they were blasting music. Okay. Or they keep having illegal events without a permit where they would have live music in the parking lines with an RP.
No, I've gotten them $5,000 since they got to the point where it was going to say it got to the point where corporate actually fired their entire management team and sent only a team in. So we've been pretty much cool for the last two years, but they still fucking suck. They were literally the worst neighbors ever. Oh my God, you're the Snowden of Whole Foods.
They can suck a fucking dick off of awful neighbors. I've lived here for almost 10 years and they're fucking horrible. Too patrol. So I managed to follow...
Hold on. Yeah, I think it's might go on for a couple minutes. That's what I'm going to link. So I found the Gerard way from remembering the fucking part of something.
I had that. It's right there. Do you want me to rob it? Nick Darrington.
Thank you. It was Darrington. I requested this from you a number of months ago when a single issue started coming out. Yeah, but I found the trigger for background.
No, no, it's not. It's not. It's not. It's a aforementioned book one.
It's not. It wasn't a complaint. It's just I mentioned to you, if you're out about when you see this, grab this for Nick. Yeah, I feel...
I don't feel great about you buying it from me. It's my now deal with it. I know. It's so good.
Like I said, why he doesn't feel great about this? He said, you're going to read it and give it back to me. And I said, no, you're not. Get the money out of my purse.
And then you got the money out of your purse? Why? Because I don't think you put your hands in my purse. That's how we were with my men.
So the new control trigger for back came out. I don't know what the timeline... I mean, that could be a lot of light on this one. No, no, no.
I went a number of months ago, but not like years ago. No, no, no. I really like it. I'm not going to say a whole lot of spoilers.
I know Deb doesn't care, but I will say it ties in and we've talked about this off air. That Gerard Way is a huge great Morrison fame, which one would it be? The France. Yeah.
It really does tie in the great Morrison stuff to the Gerard Way stuff. Now, there was stuff in between, I believe, one year later after Infinite Crisis, that Jeff Johns, I think, had a slight hand in, very slight hand in. That wasn't great. They tried to write a bunch of shit.
I don't think people realize how much dream control actually influenced the X-Men. We're not going to get into that. That's a whole thing, because there is a lot of talk about... It's very much like who started punk, the Sex Specsals with the Ramones.
It's where you were and what you heard, and who started kind of the outcast superhero group, X-Men versus Doom Patrol, because they did come out very close, and the writers were very close, Stanley, and I want to say Ray Arnold. Can Paulus be more good? No, that's fine. But it's just one of those things where Stanley does what Stanley always does, and it's not a bad thing, but he gives his heroes a little bit more polish.
And Doom Patrol wasn't that. I agree, but this was a matter of there's a group of social, cultural, even genetic misfits, led by someone in a wheelchair in both cases, which is a little too close to say, yeah. Like you can go, okay, well, there's a robot and there's Cyclops, and those are different. They're outcast in different ways, but they're both being led by a leader in a wheelchair, Professor X versus now is colder.
Like some of the similarities were a little too close for comfort, like legality wise. Yeah, I can't even name that movie now. Who's that other one this game? The one that looked best and just got sued for because it was a little bit too much like a skate from LA.
Lucy? No. You know what I'm talking about? It's the one starring Guy Pierce where he's on the fucking starship.
Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's a really good movie.
They're gonna watch it. Walkout. Sorry, sorry. It took me longer than it should have.
It's a whole walkout escape from LA. Yeah. So are they different enough? Yeah, they are.
There's some shocking similarities. But they're, but they're, but they're some more enough that you kind of have that. So that's with the bad guy was a creepy dude who lost it arm and was crazy. Ooh.
I never saw that. I know Brandon actually said it's me. Sorry. It's not hurt me.
But, so Doom Patrol X man, there's a whole, and I'm talking about like the original X man like 1960 went on three. Is that 63? I have to look it up. Yeah.
Talk about like the beginning and beginning. So then Doom Patrol, but anyway, so. Doom Patrol really does bridge. Great, more since it's control, which you know I love.
I mean, I have a soft spot. You were, no. It's not original. Well, the grandmoorst.
Second. Second, it's the grandmoorst that are up. It's the crawling from the wreckage to Doom Patrol, which that's the name of the actual storyline that reads everyone back. You and I have both listened to his book where he's talking about actually writing Doom Patrol.
Yes. The man that man took a lot of drugs. Well, he made a shit ton of money off Arkham Asylum, which I bought from his sexy. Can you hear more about her on the next damn?
And then some. But. It sounded early. Yeah.
Yeah, but isn't. But yeah, he made a shit ton of money off Arkham Asylum because he had like some kind of commission deal. And of course that was the year that the original 89 Batman came out, which is like printing money with a Batman. So he tried the world to run drugs.
Well, like I said, you and I both listened to his book. Supergots. Well, I read it, but yeah. I listened to it.
Not read by him, but read by another man with an accent similar to his. So it was pretty good. But now when he's talking about all the drugs that he did while he was writing Doom Patrol, and you're like, yeah, yeah, and he's like, like, sometimes I just put random keys on the keyboard and see what the word they suggest for. Oh, no, that makes total sense.
Yeah. And you're like, yeah. Yeah. You're like, that was spelled correct or you hitting random keys.
But I love that the Grand Wars into control bridges the gap between the two ignores all of the infinite crisis bullshit in terms of Doom Patrol. I'm not disparaging into the crisis. I would like anybody who's listening to send us about how much they like infinite crisis. Doom.
That's. Is anything you like about infinite crisis? I actually did look at the crisis. What parts of the dark?
The fact that they didn't kill lately. The fact that unfortunately it killed Superboy, the Con-El version, but they didn't bring back. The time punches actually did kind of work for some stuff. Well, because the time punches brought back Jason's top and Red Hood's been a fucking awesome character.
Some of the other things you couldn't like about it. From I do, I only have about an hour and a half. Well, then we'll hold off. And some of those things were, one, I started pastoring you pretty much immediately when Joy and Doom Patrol were starting to meet single issues.
Yeah. You didn't have time. I fell apart on it. I'm trying to get to my club too.
I mean, yeah, I wasn't pissed off about it. It was just one of those. If you're there and you see it, grab it for me. And I did.
Eventually. But we both know that Chiragway has such reverence for source material. I knew that- But he doesn't get bogged down by it. He doesn't get bogged down by it.
He builds his own new world around it, which I love. Because he brings back some of the characters from Grand Morson's run. He leaves them behind, which is fine. Like I said, I think you're gonna have a few questions about- I love when you see random images from an online.
Is that a mummy drinking a soda through a pair of binoculars? Like you're looking at the mummy through the binoculars and you're drinking a soda? Oh, I was gonna say no. That's a Larry trainer in the negative spirit.
It is, but it's just one of those things where you see an image without reference and you're like, what am I looking at? Or the Eros. They have a Eros sandwich. And you turn the page.
And it's like a cosmos inside of it. Which gets explained on the first fucking issue, which is awesome. Chiragway. I love the first issue of Doom Patrol is just a picture of the Eros sandwich.
And you're like, yep, that's very Doom Patrol. I guess I'd like to explain to you. They're DC strangest heroes. Like I said, it was an actual single issue that Yura was a sticker and you were supposed to peel it up and see the cosmos underneath.
It's fantastic. I can't recommend it enough. If you're an old fan of Doom Patrol, you'll love it. If you're a new fan of Doom Patrol, you'll love it.