209: Sometimes to Fix a Public Defender System, You have to be Willing to Let it Fail w/James McDermott and Paul Chambers

Today, Hunter is once again joined by James McDermott and Paul Chambers from the Far West Texas Regional Public Defender Office. This time, James and Paul are discussing how they utilized the new National Workload study to double their attorney staff. While the use of data was extremely important into winning over county commissioners, James' and Paul's willingness to let the system fail proved to be the catalyst in securing more funding. Guests: James McDermott, Chief Public Defender, Far West Texas Regional Public Defender           Paul Chambers, Deputy Chief Public Defender, Far West Texas Regional Public Defender   Resources:   National Workload Study https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA2559-1.html   Far West Texas Regional Public Defender https://far-west-texas-regional-public-defender.business.site/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 [email protected]  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN