20VC: Everyone is Wrong; We Will Have More Developers in Five Years | Why Frontier Labs Will Be Way More Valuable Than They Are Today | Are SaaS Companies Cooked: Which Thrive & Which Die with Aaron Levie, Founder at Box episode artwork

EPISODE · Apr 20, 2026 · 53 MIN

20VC: Everyone is Wrong; We Will Have More Developers in Five Years | Why Frontier Labs Will Be Way More Valuable Than They Are Today | Are SaaS Companies Cooked: Which Thrive & Which Die with Aaron Levie, Founder at Box

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Aaron Levie is one of the most forward-thinking public company CEOs when it comes to enterprise adoption of AI. Aaron is the CEO of Box, the enterprise storage company that does over $1BN in revenue but only has a market cap of $3.2BN. Something we discuss today… AGENDA:  00:00 — Why the Experts are DEAD WRONG About the US-China AI Race 10:55 — Everyone is Wrong About Labour Markets: You Will Not Lose Your Job 13:10 — What Role Does Not Exist Today But Will Be So Common in 5 Years 16:45 — Is Your SaaS Tool Actually a Valueless Database in an Agentic World? 20:50 — The Cybersecurity Tsunami: Why Agents are Your Biggest Threat  25:50 — Token Maxing: What Every Company Needs to Know About Budgeting Tokens 34:55 — Is Silicon Valley Secretly Being Powered by Open-Source CCP Models? 39:15 — The Brutal Truth: Is This Generation of CEOs Too Low-IQ for AI? 46:55 — Frontier Labs: Why Aaron is Still Betting Everything on the Labs  

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