EPISODE · May 12, 2020 · 2H 21M
*21.3 Makkos Daf 13 B (Bottom line)*
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*21.3 Makkos Daf 13 B (Bottom line)*According to Rabbi Akiva _malkos_ is applicable where the Torah warns about _kareis_ , because _kerisus_ is administered by the heavenly court who can be appeased by _teshuva_ (20.3). Subsequently there was a long discussion about Rabbi Akiva’s reasoning.*Summary**Ravina:* The reason Rabbi Akiva administers _malkos_ where there is _kerisus_ is *indeed because _kerisus_ is administered by the heavenly court* who can be appeased by _teshuva._The argument against this (20.5) was that perhaps he will not do teshuva, still, *since we’re not certain* that he will receive additional punishment, we may administer _malkos._*[20.3] Rabbi Yitzchok:* No capital crimes are liable for _malkos._ *Even _kerisus_ -level prohibitions are not liable for _malkos._*Forbidden relations with *a sister was part of the general rule* of all the close relatives with whom intimate relations are punishable by _kerisus._ *And yet the Torah specifies* that forbidden relations with a sister is a _kerisus_ liability; this teaches that it [and all others in the rule] is punishable *only by _kareis_ and not _malkos._**Question:* How do *the Chachamim* (Rabbi Yishamel and Rabbi Akiva) explain the Torah’s specifying _kareis_ regarding a sister?*Answer:* The specification emphasizes that *all _chayvei kerisus_ have their own punishment* [if one person had relations b’shogeig with three different _arayos,_ he must bring three korbanos].*Rabbi Yochanan:* If he transgressed all the _arayos_ without knowing that it’s problematic _[he was a liberal, and then he became a baal teshuva],_ *he must bring a _korban_ for each transgression.* See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate
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