21. THAT’S WHAT I’M F***ING TALKING ABOUT: Permission for High Achievers to FAFO. Alyssa Liu, Burnout & The Art of Having Fun episode artwork

EPISODE · Feb 27, 2026 · 20 MIN

21. THAT’S WHAT I’M F***ING TALKING ABOUT: Permission for High Achievers to FAFO. Alyssa Liu, Burnout & The Art of Having Fun

from Beat Burnout, Be Happy, and Be Healthy: Chill But Driven · host Sara Shum

Hiii. After getting sick (again), navigating even more grief, and being forced to slow tf down, I had a lot of time to bed rot and binge watch the Olympics.And in case you have no idea, Olympic figure skater Alyssa Liu is America’s new favorite person. Her story embodies everything I’ve been trying to say on this podcast: You can be disciplined and driven without attaching your identity to achievement. And the key to doing so well is actually having fun in the process and seeing what happens :)If you’re a perfectionist, an academic, a healthcare worker, a founder, or just someone who has big work to do on this planet, this one’s for you.Episode Highlightslllness, grief, and overcompensating when you should slow downAlyssa Liu’s “chill but driven” energy and storyBurnout with no autonomy and no funHow making things fun and dropping the need for a certain outcome helped me pass my board exams (and do several other things) stress-freeAutonomy, joy, and flow stateIntroducing the accountability + creative flow co-working community I’m building✨⁠ Your Accountability for This Week: go do one thing that actually makes you happy (that has nothing to do with your work) and that you haven’t done in over a month…and go do it. ⁠✨✨ Join the Chill But Driven Co-Working Community Waitlist ✨✨ Come Join Me On Substack Here ✨ (it is so much better than the other online places)Email: [email protected] this episode resonated with you, it would mean so much if you rated, reviewed, and shared it with a friend who’s ready to feel calm and energized again.Cheers to being happy, healthy, being good people, and doing great and amazing things!xx Sara

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