Skip to content
214. How To Develop Yourself For A World Beyond Coaching with David Drake episode artwork

Sep 14, 2026 1 hr 6 min

214. How To Develop Yourself For A World Beyond Coaching with David Drake

from Sacred Changemakers

What if the future of coaching depends less on learning new techniques and more on developing the human being behind them? In this episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m joined by Dr. David Drake, a coaching pioneer with more than 30 years of experience shaping the fields of coaching, human development, and leadership. David is the founder of The Moment Institute, an EMCC Master Practitioner, a Thought Leader with the Institute of Coaching, and the creator of Narrative Coaching, Narrative Release, Integrative Development, and The Five Maturities. He has also authored more than 80 publications, including his latest book, The Five Maturities: Developing Yourself for a World Beyond Coaching. Together, we explore what a “world beyond coaching” really means, why the profession may need to move beyond its industrial mindset, and the difference between becoming more competent and becoming more mature. We also talk about presence, the limits of tools and frameworks, the role of AI in coaching, and what becomes more important about the human practitioner as technology evolves. This is a rich and provocative conversation for coaches, leaders, and changemakers who sense that the next chapter of their work will require more than another model or certification. It may require deeper self-development. Key Takeaways What David means by a “world beyond coaching” Why coaching needs to move beyond the industrial mindset The difference between competence and maturity What AI changes about the future role of the coach What coaches need to develop in themselves for the future ahead Learn More About Today’s Guest David’s website ****→ www.themomentinstitute.com David on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidbdrake/ About the Host Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership. Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com

Episode details come from the podcast's RSS feed.

Embed this episode

Ready to play

214. How To Develop Yourself For A World Beyond Coaching with David Drake

0:00 1:06:15

No transcript yet.

Requests help us decide what to transcribe next.

Frequently asked questions

How long is this episode of Sacred Changemakers?

This episode is 1 hour and 6 minutes long.

When was this Sacred Changemakers episode published?

This episode was published on September 14, 2026.

Can I download this Sacred Changemakers episode?

Yes. Use the download control on the episode player to save the publisher-provided media file.