220. From Geek to Genius with Ron Johnson and Jeremy Utley (Part 1)

Have you ever met someone who made a disproportionate impression upon you? You didn't have conventional conversations with them. Instead, it was something more meaningful, even life-changing? Well, in today's episode, part one of a two-part interview with Ron Johnson, Ron describes specific moments and conversations that he had with Steve Jobs. Ron Johnson was formerly the senior Vice president at Apple. He was responsible for the creation of the retail Apple stores, as well as the Genius Bar. If you've ever been to an Apple store, if you've ever been to the Genius Bar, Ron Johnson has impacted your life. But in this episode, we learn about how Steve Jobs impacted his life. By the end of this episode, you'll have insights into that key relationship, but also insights into how to make conversations memorable and build relationships that matter at work or at home. Join my weekly newsletter at GregMcKeown.com/1mw Learn more about my books and courses at GregMcKeown.com