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EPISODE · Nov 21, 2017 · 59 MIN

229 Claptice League

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POILERS! Deb has a haunted bathroom, Doug almost cried during Walking Dead, Justice League is reviewed and Deb skips most of the usual ending nonsense to talk about ogling

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Thank you so much for your support. Welcome to Nold and Watch, just the Clap Helm of the Horror Bathroom inside the Clap Cave. Contact. So, I'm Doug with me, Doug.

That's not the contact, isn't it? Crazy! This is like 229. That's like 229.

That's something I know who we are at this point. Oh, still. It's just my default. Since nothing ever gets fixed in my apartment because maintenance and I hate each other ever since the time I got their car towed out of my parking spot.

The light in my bathroom now has what can only be described as an Eastern European haunted orphanage feel about it. It is very like the new mutants trailer. Yeah. So, a friend of mine is supposed to come over and fix it, but not until after the holiday.

However, this is better than when the light was out and it was broken and I had to pee in the dark for a week. I don't know what showering the dark. It's actually kind of relaxing, but you have to be in a very secure place. Like, I know nobody's going to break in and I'm not going to slip and fall.

No, that's when people break in. When you're showering in the dark? Mm-hmm. Absolutely.

Name one TV show or movie or book that has that as a plot point. What about real life now? What about real life? Name one incident you know of while somebody got out.

What about what happened? What happened? Sit it's going to be speaking. Okay, you have a point there, but still.

Think about it. Like, you're in the dark. You're in the supposed. What's basically?

It's basically a psycho except without lights. Yeah. You know, actually read an article recently by a gentleman. A dead lady rims.

She was the star of psycho. Well, not the star, but she was the one who gets murdered in shower. Yeah, thanks. And she said she got so traumatized by that, she took only baths for years after that.

Yeah, because at the time that was like the height of horror. Also, Hitchcock has a reputation of kind of torturing his actresses to get a performance out of them, same with Kubrick. And the Kubrick's tortured everybody. But yeah.

Up to and including his audience. But like I said, I had a history of being very difficult with his actresses to get the performance as he wanted out of town. Did you know the director from Ultra Violet, that Mila Jovlinovich Jovitch movie? Jovovitch movie?

Yeah. Filmed, like, a portion of the Black Eyegs, he was basically goting Mila to be more intense than she punched him in the face. Well, it sounds like he deserved it. Oh yeah.

I mean, just for making that movie. He deserves two black eyes for that. Sorry, I've been listening to the hell, how did this get made during Ultra Violet? The thing is, it was one of those movies kind of like Sucker Punch, which was very visually stunning, but everything else about it was fucking terrible.

They described it as like, watching a cutscenes on a Sega CD game. And I was like, kind of like, and if I watched, I don't want to watch your eyes. Just keep living your life, Doug, don't re-watch it. But it's the same as the equilibrium.

And I liked equilibrium. Equilibrium was a lot more cerebral. Yeah. And they explained a lot more of the work.

Like I said, it's seen an equilibrium with him and the dog. So I will say, fuck you, I think his name's Greg Weimer. Or Weimer might be Weimer. But he claims that he invented the Gantana, Gantana, whatever that is, the Gun-Fu.

Yeah, it has a gun. It has a gun con-tit or something. I don't know what you're talking about. But originally it came from John Boo, which makes total fucking sense.

And then somebody gets shot while it does fly away. It's a low-motion dust. So speaking of- That's one of his. John's got a gun with big hands.

Speaking of martial arts and guns, something is coming out very soon that we're very excited about. Then it involves martial arts and guns. Punisher is coming! Punisher is here, lady.

I haven't watched any of it yet. Neither have I. See? Like I said, so next week, play on a lot of Punisher talk.

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. But yeah, I did not have the time to devote to it. It seemed like one of those things kind of like Luke Cage where I didn't want to go half-relet and then half-relet do something.

The only things I've heard about in a very broad non-spoilery sense is I don't like spoilers. And I don't say that I'm gonna write spoilers that begin this episode anyway. But just in general to you. I don't mind spoilers.

It doesn't interfere with my entire- But like I avoid them so, like the only things I know about it walking in other than the different castellism that I watched earlier in my life straight up in season 2 is that one apparently they had a huge missed opportunity talking about gun violence, especially in light of like the recent shootings of California and Texas. Everywhere all the time. Yeah, Las Vegas. So it kind of really did.

Maybe they were probably- Maybe they were trying to reach- They were probably like way deep in a post-production at that point. They don't really read the trailer months ago. Like there's no way they could have known. It would be my only- I mean like the only thing they could do is put a PSA cap around the end.

And that's not an Netflix thing. Oh my gosh, they did that other way. Like they do adventure brothers. We can see their eyes- Eyes are in the big cards.

Oh, my name is Frank Castle. And I actually did not read my- I might punish people, but you know what? Like you know who you shouldn't punish? You're a fellow man.

Well the thing is, I just- It took me forever to realize that the uniforms they're wearing in that are the actual like the Japanese suicide police uniforms. Oh really? Yeah. Oh, the bunch of other men.

It took me forever. Well, okay. So I don't know if I've ever told you this before. Whenever I'm like super sad and really need a good cry.

I go on YouTube and look up Faith and Humanity restored and it's normally people saving other people and I've watched them cry. And so you see a lot of the Japanese suicide- Wait, so you said cry to happy cry? Mm-hmm. My transition from set cry to happy cry because the world's not that bad.

No, it's pretty terrible. Okay. But it's nice to know that- I don't know. I remain dead inside.

That's all I deal with. I said no, it's but it's nice to know there are good people out there. I did almost greater in walking down which we're talking about. Do you want to talk about it now?

Sure, we'll talk about it now. Because I mean we didn't get to it last week. Oh, but the other thing with the country. I'm sorry.

It's the best part about me having like straight sober weeks is that- Well your weeks are sober weeks Doug. That's true. I've always been a robot. So if we'll go with your reference.

That I can return to the point shortly quickly and remember them. So they missed the opportunity with the gun violence. I was punnish. I mean it had to be pretty much done by that.

Yeah, there's no way they could have. What are they going to do? His hair is probably completely different. Yeah, it was like two haircuts ago.

Yeah, exactly. And then apparently it doesn't really touch on any of the MCU including- but it's Marvel Cinematic Universe, not major crimes unit- that they don't touch on like- apparently it doesn't really touch on like Daredevil, just the Jones defenders. And he- I don't blame it. It's like it's gonna be its own little dark violent corner.

He's taking out mob people probably, I'm guessing. Well come on, he wasn't- he wasn't built into the universe originally. He was just so popular from Daredevil they decided to get on his own series. And two, much like Daredevil he has a very small microcosm in the world that he protects and take care of.

So he's not gonna come into contact with the big global figures. You know like Iron Man. Well yes, like he doesn't really run those big cosmic, big Boston mobs. I mean to say that he only protects but in New York is wrong.

No, but I'm just saying he has a very specific guy flying in gold. He tends to go very like, very ground level beyond- His mission statement is very refined. Punish. There you go.

Like I said, no. Rinse repeat, yeah I mean. That's one of those things that we kind of liked about the beginning of Arrow and the beginning of Daredevil is it was very much him going for these ground level bosses and then working his way up. Yes.

And I think that's- They started with him taking off those- what was it? The two Russian brothers that run like the camp company? Yeah, I can't remember their names. Yeah, they come to the club later.

But they're very like working his way up. Yeah, it was very, it was like when they took on Street level like Bronze Tiger. It was like at the very beginning you're like, this is a street level criminal he can take care of. What Bronze Tiger was- Arrow.

I was like, no, no, no, but like I said it's just one of those where they started so they have the foundation to build. Yeah. And so I can see why I get- By the way they're not met at humans in Arrow really. Exactly.

Now they do, but- Yeah, but they didn't do it. But I mean it's just you start very small and you work from there. Yeah. Which I think is a very smart way to do it as opposed to going all iron fist on it and completely fucking it up.

Yeah, that's right. Did you ever watch the defenders? Not yet. He does redeem himself.

I mean, what's his name? Finn Jones? Yes. Is this martial arts still dead?

They shoot a lot at night in the rain and from a distance with him. So that's- But that's giving him time to get us chops up for what's next. Okay, we sat through an excellent panel with a fight choreographer from Luke Cage. We did not.

You and I- No, me and Ryan- Lizzie- I don't know what I was doing. I feel like you were in the weird out panel. I think I was in the weird out panel. But like I said, you were as a wonderfully smart intelligent man that knows how to get the performances of people that are not necessarily so first in this.

So- It's up with Jones. Well, I- And the fact is you didn't know it, I think you owned it. Well, there's also the fact that- They wanted to have as much backlash. Favorite article title of all time.

Iron Fist gets season two from Netflix whether you want it or not. Nobody wanted it. Like we talked about this- Talk to me after the fenders. Yeah, but I mean we talked about this before.

The family drama was a lot more interesting than anything that was going on with Finn. Yeah, and the actor that plays the like brother character? Yeah, I can't think of his name. But he's been like in a few other things like- He's super intense and really like- Yeah, like I was just like- He's like I can't see you other than like that like screaming heroin addict.

I mean it's just one of those things where he's an actor that makes you feel things without doing anything. Michael Shannon. Like I said, his silence is so intense. Yeah, exactly.

Michael Shannon. He just stared at me. I'd start crying. Like that's it.

Like I don't need to act right. I mean like paints. I was like I just total biological evacuation. It would be pitch shit tears.

And the funny thing is- It probably fear come. Like everything would come out. Like he's actually supposed to be pretty funny too. Ooh.

Michael Shannon. He's really dry. He's really really dry. He's really really dry.

He's like jesel neck dry. Like him and what's Nick Landrunner on solo. Harrison Ford has got- They have super drizz in September. Like beyond dry like- I kind of know see them go back and forth.

I would- I think- I think they've never been in the movie together. But yeah, I would love to see- I was about to say I'd like to see Michael Shannon and Harrison Ford have a dry off and then I realized how horrible that sounded. Now, But if it was say a groundhog day Michael Shannon- I still think they're both pretty handsome men. Michael Shannon really?

It's his personality. No, it's his personality. The fact that he's so confident in himself, and so intense, but still has a reputation of being a wonderfully sweet man and having a great sense of humor. Yeah.

Like all of those things. But fucking man, it's still when he's like, all clear baby. I'm like, get the baby! Like I said, that's like a perfect pussy store right there.

Time out of evacuation. Oh, yeah. There's pollution. I don't think there's such a thing.

Great band name. Like I said, normally like every- if I'm afraid- every liquid in my body recedes to most inner-folding. It's just out of a sploosh. That was- that was disgusting.

Disgusting. I like that both of us did it at the same time and we high-fives. That sounded like the last three drops trying to get through a straw. So walking dead.

So I did- I did- I did- I'm gonna have to spoil it here folks. And the thing is I was a week behind. Well, then I'm technically two weeks- I'm still a week behind, but now I'm one last week behind. But I thought I- I- honestly, I didn't need to see it and I thought I read a spoiler so I was like, oh fuck, a main character dies.

And I can say which one because she didn't, so I guess that's a spoiler. But yeah, I thought Carol was gonna die. Can't tell Carol. Uh, the fact that you can have the fact that- the fact that you can have a fact- the fact that you can have a fact good drug.

The fact that right now, like, the communities are now like- they're divided doing their own things in the war against the sanctuary of the Nigan. Um, you have a great opportunity of people dying, and other characters not knowing about it. So you have a lot of the stuff that they had it like two seasons ago where the group was kind of divided and when they came back together They're like where's x y and z? Oh, they're not here anymore and then like you can have a visceral reaction So for care if Carol dies I'd like it when Daryl's not around no because when they find out they're alive I think like three seasons ago or whatever and their union was like fucking adorable So I thought Carol was going to die.

I walked into this episode waiting for it the episode before it ends. I'm like the Fuck do they call themselves Negan's group the Saders Mowing down a bunch of people from the kingdom the Kings of your group with like 50 helmets Yes, huh? Good. I like mowing fucking down I'm like oh after they're so proud that like they never lost anyone in these like raids, which I was like okay I'm like before the fall on that one.

I did I can do that. I think there's a Bible somewhere in this apartment. Okay, it's not a Gideon's Bible, but still so Gideon's Don't get me on a bill Hicks quote-a-thon. Um, so which I could do So I can think Carol's gonna die I was ready for it Especially like I said you see that that end of like the massacre of the Kingdom troops and I was like oh fuck Like he goes meant to kill like zombie Carol which I would be one thing scarier than Carol is a Carol yep So she makes me think of it makes me think of the ex-books He made me read when they finally like zombie one of the characters the one with medallion that can transfer He's like a demon from the DC.

Yeah, and it's like oh fuck he was he was tough before this scary the met demon I was gonna say demon zombie that yeah I think now having read the same insulin series that I have a bit more of a map of Ellie in my head And we're not scared of the fact that I just didn't emotionally attached any of the characters No, except for The electric guy who I think has the world's worst electric guy or electric power Codename using the fuel everything right. Yes, basically like the burning human porch from the venture brothers. Yes But it's the worst electrical codename ever so I think it's three years two or three whatever is these zap Yeah, where to God? I just didn't emotionally connect any of the characters and then it's a Then into girl whatever any with a letter or something like that I liked her because it was a matter of that she kept her body completely covered in she was a super model It was one of those things where she was good at everything.

She was hot. She was smart She was good at fighting fuck you Batman Yeah, she's broken inside you're broken inside We'll get the Batman Anyway I walked in thinking Carol was gonna die and was shocked that that was not the sheet I read about And it's always worse It's unexpected and be they've done this once before It's worse when it's an animal the tiger dies Saving is he killing Carol and Jerry. It's always worse when it's an animal and it goes out It goes out like a fucking champ fighting these weird like radio actively poisoned zombies And my first thought was well a dry like gasped and paused and was like oh my god I'm actually having like a real like I don't I when they were gonna when Rick was gonna chop off Carl's arm I was like and fucking cares Like and it's not that I don't like Carl. It's just I was like he got better.

He got better But you know it was just like okay, you know human violence expect But like yeah when it's and they kill the horse I think like the second season that like I think Rick It's about bonded with or like you've made a story about it And you always saw the horse and the horse get eaten and you're like holy shit That was like the symbol of hope or whatever but it's like there's things where it's like think about every movie that really fucking wrecked you emotionally Chances are there was an animal involved Absolutely. Do you know what movie I really hated when I was younger home were bound It's the one with the dogs and the key out like I said the problem was so the golden retriever was the older dog And they didn't think he'd make the journey back home And they totally like make you wait and agonizing three minutes before he finally reappears on screen at the end And you think he died along the way oh they pulled a glen exactly like I said and he finally appears I mean just imagine me at like age 10 falling my fucking eyes out imagine you're doing that in 10 minutes If you're watching it, no, no, I know he's okay. I also really hated the movie my low notice Yeah, do you realize I'm in the cats actually died in that movie? Don't talk about that.

Okay, I will just cry harder, but it's just the whole thing they pitched like for the audience So they know what we're talking about this was when Like rules were very lax or they didn't exist. This is what the mid 80s. Yeah. Yeah, well, I guess yeah Well, I guess yeah, we got figured out like they must have been non-existent because they thought they killed a real horse for godfather Or whatever that was remember that yeah, but it was fake and everyone like freak the fuck out Which is really funny because it's like I'm in oh man He totally used dead goldfish and then just stirred them up because he didn't want to hurt anything Well, yeah, huh, yeah, I'm not Damien the director.

Oh So oh, yes Whatever Yeah, so did they like jumping off a cliff to like Remember correctly they were like jumping off a cliff to get to a river so they could escape right Sure, but it's also been a long time because that movie just fucking wrecked me So apparently couldn't get the exact shot so this kept tossing cats off a cliff 27 of them 27 less cats my opinion She flew it but so so she but dies which was I didn't see it coming And it was like an animal on top of that. I mean I was like oh god damn it She went out like the queen that she was yes, and afterwards I was thinking about it I went oh man think about how much money they're gonna save not having a CGI a tiger That was actually kind of my thought on that one but still until you realize we have to spend some money on a zombie tiger Ten bucks says you can get zombie tiger. I really wish people could see my face right now because it's fucking badass right? I repeat what's scarier than a tiger.

Oh, it's not a tiger. Yeah, I mean, it's yeah So that was my walk in and I'm behind by an episode I know the new episode it they go back to touch on something at the end of the first episode the season where these walkers overrun the sanctuary the outside the sanctuary and Negan gets trapped in like a one of those like Construction site office trailers. I guess you don't talk about yes, yeah temporary building no, it's a trailer I mean, it's like you know, it's a mobile office effectively And he's in there with the priest the father gave her so yeah, it's like One guy who really can't defend himself But could theoretically get through to me again on a probably an emotional level Like so it's like it's basically words versus Lucille It I think is you know, I would shake it up. Oh my god Can we get t-shirts printed that say words versus Lucille you seal wins on the back?

People recognize that t-shirt they get a date. They get a date is that we said? Yep, you're just gonna carry on a bag of fruit. Oh, why not?

Okay, I know what you meant. I like mine better regular. I'm regular enough. I raise a brand work Um, that makes it with frosty place That's not I mean, I've always liked cereal, but still I don't the immediacy of it Well, it's one of the nice things about it is you need something that'll fill you up in this kind of party and you don't have to do pretty much I know but you can't really eat it at work when you can't like stop to go by you right now It's like eating soup you can't just eat soup on the go unless you're drinking it No, I don't mind cold soup, but I hate soggy cereal And then there's a captain country problem and always shreds the movie, you know unless it's a argue I think I think yeah You always say that like this shows gonna be like six hours long So on my list, you don't have a whole lot I walked in you were watching seventh heaven I'm gonna throw you under that bus so uncool bro I'm actually gonna be watching a lot of things and so they're things that hold up and things that don't You know it doesn't hold up side felt I do that But more has to do with you know all of the phone calls between each other and checking their messages And it's just one of those things where it's like technology wise a lot of the plot lines don't make sense anymore Right a lot of their plot lines are kind of offensive now really yeah On that one there's an episode for this girl thought that Jerry was gay and they made everything okay by saying quote Not that there's anything wrong with that right that's one of us one episode still pretty offensive the Puerto Rican day parade episode That they no longer actually air anymore where cream or accidentally stomps on a burning Puerto Rican flag That's kind of like super funny, but that's not right There's also the one where they're trying to go to some party and Georgian cream Or end up getting blocked in by somebody double parking a liquor store and it ends up being said down there saying block them in over them Yeah, there's also the super Nazi I don't think you'd be allowed to call him that now unless he was an actual Nazi I got to sure he's not because I think he moved off to somewhere in Argentina after he was done Oh my god, that's for all Nazis when I did it yeah Sorry pieces just came together to catch me Brazil right boys a Brazil wasn't that yeah?

The boys a Brazil where the Nazis move to oh, yeah I'm gonna do other eugenics big experiments on so there's actually like I said Supposed to ask me because I actually found a really interesting article recently about this village in Argentina that has four times higher twins rates than anywhere else Interesting. Sorry. Yeah, it's one of those things where they're like hey to the Nazis come here and play with the genetics Maybe they did that's that's the thing is they realize that it's not just nature It's nurture because it was you need like his Dominarian mom or something something like that something but yeah, no, it's one of those things where like I said No, I've been reading a lot of crack lately because I like cracked and they totally had an article about craziest conspiracy theories That might be true and a lot of them have to do with you know Hitler's not dead and they totally did a bunch of experiments in South America That's true Hitler, but I Hitler is Years wise we all have at least one like what is it like one aota of Hitler Based on like how many title breaths you take and like air to sportsmen across the world You also really I said but you also realized that one in five people are descended from gave his con because he was that prolific yes Not to be confused with not prophylactic Pat and I thought that on this news one where he got like the ancestry calm He's like yeah, I had all the you know Peaceiest like you know countries in Europe and then like this spike in Mongolia and he's like I told him like what the fuck I'm like he's gone. Well.

Here's the funny thing is you know, I'm actually descendant of Sherlock made The worst French king of all time Charlotte Maine sounds like it can now be a drag queen. I'm pretty sure it is like Charlotte Maine I'm pretty sure there's at least two. Okay. There's one of one that RuPaul shit Not yet What are my favorite drag queens coming to town soon?

I think me and my friend Katie are gonna go what a drag queens appear Like I don't mean like I don't mean like Beetlejuice or something. I mean like when they have an event like you're talking about Yeah, I don't mean like just go down to like hamburger Mary's on a Saturday night I'm going to do comedy clubs and like gay bars and stuff like that I actually do and actually do worldwide fairly successful tours and kind of me They'll do small theaters too, but yeah, her name's Bianca del Rey and I love her Which sounds like the female from the rescuers. Oh, that was yeah, I'm right Not del Rey Gidget was the name of the girl and that oh Rescue Ranger, sorry and that was gadget. It was gadget.

It was gadget is Sally feels the mouse from the rescuers and she's the only one that takes a gun gun. Yeah, she's a boy I shot a poor I think of her every time I remember the name of the main guys, but it was a Bob Newport was the voice. It was like Marcus or something like that. It was something.

Yeah, I was like Phil I mean every time I see a lead from a Christmas story. I think of Shaja Why oh Jesus, she's dead now, so right? Yeah, she passed away Speaking of past away Charles Manson Yep, Angus Young was a little sad was a I'm sorry nothing young Sad I mean 64 is young for but I mean he's got to imagine like all the stories are alive For somebody who has a crystal for a liver. Yeah, I mean AC DC like they were one of those party things so unfortunately, it's proven me wrong right now I don't know if you can hear that but we do have one more memorial we should talk about well It's coming back from the grave for one more It's a trial could not the national drug they have closed the adjoining business from from every record So we will see hopefully no more garbage truck who was a reoccurring joke slash guest on the show It's not garbage picked up at 10 o'clock in the morning every frickin Monday Whole Foods so the whole foods next to me close because they move locations But this also happened right around with Amazon bottle foods and I think they have a really long lease on the building So I'm really fucking hoping they just put in a physical Amazon store It's like a Walgreens except not white trash and no, but like that's a point of Amazon's you can get literally a to Z So I actually do something with Amazon called the treasure truck Where they will have a truck and put a special deal on it And you can decide if you want to order not and then bonk over and pick it up the same day for a super fucking speed steel And that's a fine promotion, but for an online store But like their whole thing is like you know Online I really see idea of a physical Amazon store being like somebody makes a list They get it delivered to the store and then that person can just come to the store and pick it up instead I haven't wait for the fucking mailman or don't know is where they leave it see that makes that's fine with me Then I would have to wait for all your place.

I said that would be my concept of physical Amazon store Okay, it basically be a glorified post office that doesn't suck as much. Okay. I mean I don't know what their idea is But that would be my idea. Okay, so I'm pretty sure that's not garbage Ron It is just some random truck, but I don't know what the fuck they would be dropping off the stores completely empty I saw them power washing the floors three days ago.

Oh, I didn't say what about the fixtures You remember there was a dumpster outside for two weeks Yeah, there was a dumpster outside for two weeks and they've been throwing away everything and last weekend everything This works half off because they were trying to completely clean out their inventory Yeah, I mean I'll go to a fucking Kmart going out of business. Oh, I get food poisoning from furniture or pants Yeah, but yeah, so Garber tron we won't miss you. Hopefully you'll be replaced with something a little bit more awesome drones Oh I'm so next door and I would order them and they just send the throne Yeah, it's bad enough when I order from across the street, but still Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the owner normally brings it to me oddly. Yeah, not that hippie guy It's normally the owner a super cute bitch girl.

I don't know super cute bitch girl So what else you have on your list? Oh, you saw Justice League. Oh, okay. Yes, I did yes I did so it wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be let me open up with that It wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be it wasn't the hot mess that's your members Batman was and part of that is you've already met Batman You're what a meant Superman you've already met one woman like so you only have three new characters interviews.

Well Yeah, and and snap and wolf with that guy who does not take anyone on a magic carpet rep Yeah, so but I would say my biggest issues with it would be that that you do have a Really unknown bad guy. This isn't like a lock where you have a little forward fighting Batman And superman eventually one woman doomsday while he's not like a super big character He's an established villain, but he is yeah, I mean it's a creature that killed Superman like it okay, but step in wolf Not really one of the new gods that anyone even knows I mean really the only one and the new gods are not that well known to begin with their excited we know about but really if you Don't read complex have never watched the cartoons you just think oh, he's some kind of Thanos where both of which he's not No, he's very different and it's a bad ass. I'm like dark side to great bad guy One of the biggest dads you can get for the DC. He's also just such a manipulator.

He's smart. He's not just strong The man needs a few PhDs in psychology and I say man loosely So to have like you know, I know it's like okay. He's the devil's like the harbinger of Dark side who he mentions literally once that's it He's just and the character was completely CGI So he basically looked like Snoke from What snork snork snork snork snork snork snork it's not snork those are underwater smurfs. It's snoke.

That's an okay E I will show you after this. It is snoke Yeah, under water smurfs. I'm not good. I'm never gonna fucking deny another or But he looks like a snoke by way of like world of Warcraft like it's not I it's it's good motion capture But it doesn't I would have liked to have like some kind of physical presence.

So you're telling me the stylist dad Yeah, I mean he looks like a fucking video game. Okay. I mean what's the technology is there But it doesn't mean you have to use it that's what I love doesn't mean you should it's in science all about kota not sure But it's like that's what I loved about and I'm not gonna get on the whole site thing about this But why I did like del Toro's whole take with with Hellboys like I'm gonna do the most with practical effects Same with what's the same with yes? Yeah, so Sam James got me try to do as much as he possibly can I was gonna say also with No, don't care But still even with Lord of the Rings though he tried to use as much practical effects as well.

Yeah That way you don't have your actors acting against the tennis ball in the stick like Make a rookie lino in that episode of Crap I think about scarful notes when she's in the horror movie and she's getting chased by the Take and she has to get naked but she's a brunette right right so it's just not working for them right but you know When came on Golly tried to have sex Kate McCoochie and she fell asleep on his dick yep good episode So I mean there are aspects of it. I didn't like even as a comic fan. I was like saffron wolf. All right, I guess I think they're trying to do a slow build and they don't have time for that anymore But I don't know what their slow building to which is we'll get to that in a second because that's what my points I'm well, I want to get to the broader stuff and I'll get to the minutia But I know it was a very controversial move that we can cut out and whose fingerprints I can hear On this there are certain lines that are very that are very leading But it is a sex-nighter film and I do mean that actually in the best way.

It's not a bad movie But for everyone to go oh the tone's not consistent. Well the tone was a fucking working It's just trying to fill in holes and like it up and it worked and yes, and I think it worked I think having no was it a laugh riot like for three Ant-Man Guardians of the Galaxy No, no it wasn't but flash was really funny. Aquaman was like funny and like how like kind of like apathetic and cool and you know I put it more as like Wolverine in X-Men first class even though he didn't have a line that wasn't fuck off It was like that like he was like kind of a you know He's like I just want to be like alone. I don't you know It's like the way he reacted to things where like you'd see like which windows were crude and that's in the trailer You know and then like you know eventually obviously Aquaman joins the Justice League and he sees all my season goes Wow just like a bat you were kidding What is happening outside?

No, it's okay I have to project a little bit. I actually think that it might be somebody in the building getting their carcass clean Not a euphemism. I hope no like literally hitting their carcass Okay, so funny because I push around the only apartment left in the building that actually has a parking carpet So maybe they're just doing the hallways. No, well they were vacuum once we play back.

They vacuum every week. Okay, so Hold on So But I mean uncle name is cool I said this off airy like there's a lot of things like aerial like swoop down back kick stuff I loved great. I like that I like that I'm a little I Said I would reserve my opinion because of how wrong I was that he's like there's a much better actor than Ben I'll ever be yes I think that's the thing is don't get wrong act like I have his talents. He's an excellent director He seems to know what the stories he wants to tell he's not a great actor He's acting can best be hold serviceable bullshit.

I go the town gun girl. He changed the end of the fucking town You can never use that as a record It's good. I mean it's good. I go it's kind of a false story.

They caught a lot of Canadian bolt into that But like I said, that's all that of you I think I like bad I like that I like miss Bruce Wayne. Do I think he's a mess? No, but I Need spooky bail and she's like who's Bruce Wayne? He's like oh, he's around here somewhere He puts the cigarette the plant like alford runs over to grab the glass before he puts it down on something like not Where is Bruce alive?

I don't know I will say I like Jeremy iron salty from shade Alfred. You know I Mean that's what Jeremy iron's is eventually evolved Alfred into that Salty old man that knows his shit and knows his service and raised this man. Yeah, and he's kind of got that Who is it miles from the nanny? I kind of saltiness Oh, it's just me What was what was that actress name?

I don't know the scene I remember most is when she's hiding in his closet from him for some reason And you can set away the man he has the whole face of makeup on the back of the Secret jacket. Oh of the one yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Because it's him in the blonde always like Yeah, but they was having like back and forth. Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, but so anyway, so salty Alfred loved it Well, it's also just one of those where I think they made Alfred a lot more Yes, yes Yeah, I mean But even in the trailer when like cyborg takes over what they call the night crawler that like weird bat tank thing And he goes and you know what cyborg says, you know, don't worry Alfred I got this and I was like wait We met like were you like it's obviously that Alfred is closely tied in with one woman now eventually the flash So when I was reading about everything Batman and one woman obviously, you know, we established Aquaman's cool flash is funny and he is really funny in it. No one really mentioned cyborg And it was I was a little my issue was that what he looked like was he was too Sharp looking Very happy so huge turn about on mine the movie that changed that By the end of the movie he learns how to control his like bio machinery a bit better He ends up looking more like like the actual cyborg from the comics.

He does say boo. Yeah, which I thought was a nice nod to the teen Titans It's very hard to make a character like cyborg Believable in such a short period of time. No, they did They did a good job with that. They say that your grandma's in the good I Was pleasantly surprised by by a whole lot of them.

I was having a cyborg I initially said I'm gonna say this because it's not a spoiler which I thought it was going to be that Basically the premise is that Stefan wolf is trying to track down these three mother boxes to create what's called the unity Which is not a thing in the comics, but I'm okay with it. I mean, I got up. I'd be stuck in my head I'm a musical references Yeah, what I've saxophone in my head now why why I Yeah, okay, let me be confusing on the fear this here does the New York so right unless you like saxophones sitting or so so I thought like you know The tracking of the mother boxes and you remember from some members is Batman that they use the mother bar to call it change box Like the dance and idiot for being like a professor or person like a scientist is an idiot Which is interesting because you know they had a similar character in Margal Something yeah, yeah I had a god my head. Yeah, I got a god my head.

That was and that was funny Man Was real and it's very much after math of something like that Yeah, but cyborg's that is a bit of an idiot But you see that in SVD that you know that he used the mother box to try to help his son and you never see what happens to cyborg Until this movie and they could explain that as well that like that he that cyborg himself hides that footage It does get and they make him a very I'm glad it is a very human character I mean that's always what cyborg has been though despite the fact that his name is cyborg He's always Very much He's humanity and struggling to try and maintain his humanity and understand his place as an individual Yes, and one of the big people that do that in the comics is it's one of his former team Titans compatriots the flash and you do have that relationship Flash or kid flesh Walling west so kid flash into flat into my flash. Yeah, so I don't think there is a It's not like how Jordan works like there's the people's manager. Oh, they do. They do show an ancient green lantern.

Thank you Well, there's no I Set up because they're gonna be doing the lantern Well, we'll see because I think when does the lantern core come out that two years I said they have a lot of work to do before they can I never rebuilt the fantastic for never you think they can say We later Two different companies and they try to fix fantastic for So I thought cyborg was gonna be the third mother box And that's why I was like there's a reason they're not mentioning him is because he's a plot point So it makes sense that they would avoid talking about him. He isn't So but I I like to say I really did like the movie I mean I had my quibbles with it, but I was talking with this earlier the the controversial thing that we didn't did was to fire The junkie fl Excel something like that I jumped the excel who did the music for a devil and also Hans Zimmer's Correct and so they kicked him out for Danny Elfman. Well, I'm never gonna say no to Danny Elfman, but I feel really bad I don't because Excel said something here he goes. Huns ever told me something where like you're not official until you get fired Or something like that Things where you know my parents are good musicians My dad's new hobby neither these retired is re-wringing his surround sound system And one of his favorite things to do with me is watch Christopher Nolan movies that have the Hans Zimmer background She's almost all of them.

So he's retired from doing super hero flicks because you know, we have steel broken and now junkie I think they both worked on something I think I think he was on that man's deal. I can be full shit But like I said and so now junkie excel is his protege and one I loved everything he did the Deadpool But I don't necessarily see him in the machine on a music level at all I don't think we can ever work out and before I'm aware of and repeat I had a record in my record player for two and a half years because I went to get change it and every time I did I thought I love this album and you know I was only allowed by your good one go exactly So I love Danny open there was Danny open's presence is felt almost immediately in the end You see in the trailer the one woman fighting the like terrorist hostage situation Oh my god the minute they're all walking into the building past like security. It is so ridiculously open It's great. He used the Batman theme and he managed to somehow because I'm sure the clout that Elfman has to get a bit of the John Williams Superman score unfortunately, he's no prince so there's no bad dance.

I need the bat dance Probably in the original Snyder version But the music was great the cancer was great. I am gonna spoil the post-credacy Because it does set up the next movie I mean talked a little bit about what they're building and I think this is something that needs to be talked about in terms of what they're building I don't think they have time but still well, well, also, you know, we're getting the new Wonder Woman like six weeks early They're moving it so doesn't go up against them Episode 9. Yeah, it's really no interesting fight. They have different faces, but still just don't just don't So the post credit scene is you find out looks the Thor has escaped our commissant or whatever they put him We're joker still wandering around on third.

Well, they're universe at this point So that was escaped he's on a yacht and he looks up with and you finally get to see him which I loved I mean talk about nerd boner that Joe Nagonello just broke It's blue indeed Deb and Luther says it's not fair that they have a league It's time we start a League of our own type of speech Justice League of you know Those were the swamp and he's got her legs There used to be a 60s landing I Think it was sex Luther. Yeah, anyway, so anyway, what's pants? So My thing is what's definitely looks like they were building to dark side, but now it looks like they're building to the injustice League We're just a scam Legion of doom Or the injustice game Probably better name so sorry that took us way too long to get there Why split your focus that way why obviously build because they're to build to dark side so that they can have something comparable But comparable to Thanos for the Avengers makes sense And then another in terms of like to go head to head like what do you need to get to Thanos you need dark side But now they've got this like in Justicing so I'm wondering if they're gonna pull like a justice is gonna be the next one And then and then dark side into a third one don't know if they can do that anything as we're starting to get a girl Do what they're gonna? We're still waiting for just being back girl.

Yeah Unless they talked well they already said tonight is gonna be doing justice too. So Justice Leger What's night it really needs is a good script editor and a good film editor once again The script was done. I can't remember the name of the other guy that was the credit went to Whedon and the other guy Here it didn't make any sense, but okay, but like I said he needs a good script editor and he needs a good film editor It's not a bad director. I just need somebody to people each other He's like more see without the Smith's oh, I don't think you're just sure it's Zoe Bergin.

It's like it's it's a So steers miss slash Morrissey and so I've been going your music's there your music's bad And so where you should feel better something is great, but you need somebody to shake his vision I agree and I don't mean that in a bad way. I think he's a brilliant director. I think he has a lot of great ideas I love his I think he's like lynch and that like you can get away from himself very easily He needs a shaker dreams. Yes, but I like justice.

I think I think we should see it I know it's a disappointed box office. I honestly I'd pay for you to go fine. Let's go well Let's finish this episode first So but I was really happy with it. I like that okay It makes me disappointed that they might flash point they might flash point the whole thing I mean the choice to go see Thor again and rather to see you just asleep and I much happier than I let it stop the Oregon Thor still I mean it's still fun.

It's still good. Yeah, we know each other from work But it's nice to see you know a whole bit still a whole but also a person yes No, I mean, are you ever the questions are you ever gonna see banner again? Keep warm does he might not ever come back? Well banner not my ruffalo.

I was talking about that ruffalo signed off for at least two more Okay DC TV check in and the fact that oh, you know, let's just jump to we'll just wrap up on on let's just go into the usual in the nonsense We'll hang on everything on social contract Drop it right to that. Okay. Can you not stare at my kids? Sorry?

Not you personally. It's a general statement about people and in particular. Hey, I get it I have boobs, please try not to stare at them and I will try not to stare at your dick I'm trying to mount a car to fancier. No, I was wearing this little old dress, which is fine But when I sit down it's a little bit low.

Okay, so I'm waiting literally in the outside lobby of my therapist August and guy comes in and starts completely staring at my Yeah, lately there that's going on in Hollywood politics No, but there's still I honestly think that's you know probably a very passive thing to do And is that different That doesn't matter is it different I'd say yes or no because then I can't have a double standard Power when a guy almost I did I feel comfortable you should feel empowered. That's no no You don't know the guy feels empowered I feel uncomfortable. Okay, how about this social contract? Let's get on the side kindness, okay?

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