23. (S1E23) The Pain of Transformation vs the Pain of Regret with Jess Lilly

Today’s guest is Jess Lilly. Jess is a Heart-Centered Leadership Coach and coach trainer who is committed to creating a world full of empathetic, courageous leaders that understand it’s way more effective to play "heartball" than "hardball". She lives in Washington, DC with her loyal steed Aidan the dog, whom I’ve met and he is adorable. There’s a lot in this conversation that hasn’t been covered in other episodes. I love that we talk about the difference between therapy and coaching, because I get this question a lot. We dive into how experiences don’t define who you are, how we are meant to be interconnected, but not codependent, and how we humans think there’s a version of life where there’s no pain. And her Grandma Shirley makes an appearance as well. You will love Grandma Shirley. Quick reminder, for community and camaraderie, Come join us in the Fine is a 4-Letter Word Facebook group.Jess' hype song is Let Me Clear My Throat by DJ Kool. Listen to it here: https://open.spotify.com/track/7k3sn5TIQ3qRVJ8FPTG9kx?si=bca4d6263cb54db7Where to find Jess: Website https://www.jesslillycoaching.com/LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesslillycoaching/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/jesslillycoachingInstagram https://www.instagram.com/jesslillycoaching/Clubhouse https://clubhousedb.com/user/jesslillyConnect with her, mention this podcast, and get a 45 minute complimentary discovery session.