231. How We Feed the World Without Frying the World w/ Michael Grunwald

Today, Matt speaks with award-winning journalist and author Michael Grunwald about his new book, We Are Eating the Earth: The Race to Fix Our Food System and Save Our Climate. Grunwald makes the case that food and land use are responsible for roughly a third of global greenhouse gas emissions — a massive blind spot in most climate conversations. They discuss why the world is on track to eat 70% more meat by 2050, the limits of veganism and organic farming as climate strategies, and why Denmark’s 2025 agricultural policy may be the most important climate legislation most people have never heard of. They also dig into deforestation, food waste, agricultural subsidies, the failure of alternative meats, and what a serious food-climate agenda might actually look like.   Pick up Michael’s new book here: https://amzn.to/weareatingtheearth Read Michael’s work at POLITICO here: https://www.politico.com/staff/michael-grunwald Subscribe now on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get podcasts.   Michael’s Bio: Michael Grunwald is an award-winning journalist and senior staff writer at POLITICO Magazine. A Harvard graduate and former staff writer at The Washington Post, TIME Magazine, and The Boston Globe, he is the author of The Swamp and the NYT bestseller The New New Deal. His latest book, We Are Eating the Earth: The Race to Fix Our Food System and Save Our Climate, examines how food systems and land use are driving the climate crisis. He has won the George Polk Award and the Worth Bingham Prize for investigative reporting.   Episode Resources We Are Eating the Earth (book): https://amzn.to/weareatingtheearth Matt Matern on LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ACClinkedin A Climate Change on Apple: https://bit.ly/accapplepodcast A Climate Change on Spotify: https://bit.ly/accspotifypodcast A Climate Change on YouTube: https://bit.ly/ACCvids