231 Love Nutrition

Are you guys ready? Anthony is in his throne. Look, it's... I mean he's massive.

It's massive too. He looks like a five-year-old in the fucking throne. He looks like a five-year-old. You should literally, your feet should be dangling off the end and you should have like a little box of blocks or something with little letters on it.

Fucking... waiting for Santa to come in the less do or something. That's a scary person. Are you guys ready to do the first show in Anthony's castle?

Yeah. Well then, goddamn it, let's hope this button works. The following show is for mature audiences only. Listen, her discretion is advised.

And if you don't like it, please go fuck yourself. One, two, three, four. Do you feel your sex life is quite lame? Scared that your desires might be strange.

Come and join the Kinky World of Play. The Virgin of Cast. Hello and welcome to the Pivertting Podcasts, the show where we explore the adventures of the Kinky lifestyle, sex and perversion. Recording live in Anthony's Castle, which is now the coin term in progress.

That's weird. Yes. Here at all, Anthony's. My name is Galboogie.

I'm Kathy. Over there we have... Dell. And then of course swing that mic over.

Anthony. You are the man. You're like the drummer that has the mom's house. It's like your drum set sucks, but your mom has the house and she makes sandwiches and stuff.

And then of course over here we have Lang on Dell. Enigma. Thank you very much. We now...

Kathy, look at all the space. Don't forget the swabsters off in the corner. Well, of course, swabsters in the corner there with their little blanket and fancy iced tea doing good. This is a big room.

This is out of all of the Pivertting Podcasts places we've ever been. This is the nicest for sure. Let's try not to fuck this up. Let's just not mess this up.

Look at it. Anthony. There's a kid in there. Oh my God.

Look, he's the best lady's need to fuck this guy. Wow. What you have got your dick sucked right there on that floor, right? You guys need to be better at the switching of the mic.

Just swab. I'm talking to Anthony, swing the mic to him. Yes. I have had my dick.

And if I say something like Dell is a good guy. See how that works? Anticipation. There you go.

Dell, how you doing? Doing all right. Did you have a magical drive over here? All the traffic.

It was great. That is good. It's the audio book time. I didn't listen to you.

That's probably a good thing. Why would that hurt my feelings? I don't listen to me. What audio book are you listening to?

Is it erotica? Do you jerk off while you drive? Woo! All I have about heard from an outro is the U.S.

I don't have such statistical tracking. Oh! This is a game so much I can talk about. No, this is, I'm allowed to be happy.

Okay, I mean, I'm not used to hearing that. I like in some ways I like change. It keeps me very active. And so of course I loved it at Kathy Special's place.

It was good to be able to have a place to record our show. It was very generous of the people that were also involved in us being there. It was really cool, but you know, it's nice to be here. That was a garage that was being constructed, you know, so obviously it had that like edgy kind of thing.

That's a nice way of putting it. But it's kind of cool to be here now with Anthony because of course Anthony's been on the show. You know, Anthony very well. He's got this big house and he was nice enough to say by all means come here until I get sick of you and kick you out.

I thought we were gonna be his garage, right? You know, we could be kicked. That's why we need to get him laid. That's why we just need to be like, that's why we need to just be like, hey, someone just needs to come and blow.

I mean, I don't know if it could be Del or Nick, you know, this, you know, put a wig, wig, no? Give Kathy all of the fantasies, just all of the fantasies. Hey, I'm not complaining. So I think I have an opinion here.

I think Anthony is very good at getting his own women to blow him. I don't think he needs perverted podcast out this morning. You don't want to make him look like, you know, he's cocky. Well, he's one of your shark club guys.

Well, he is in the shark until he tried to bring t-shirts. Yeah, and then I almost got kicked out because I wanted to be Land Shark. Apparently that wasn't t-shirts. Yeah, that's yeah, yeah.

He came in, like Anthony is not a guy, but like, okay, we're gonna let you in into the shark group, you know, the ethical predators. We've talked about him. You know, and Anthony, you know, I don't even know. I'm Blacktip and then, you know, Hollywood daddy was hammerhead and, you know, and Mako, you know, Spanky who's been on the show was Mako.

And so we had this whole, like little, and then Anthony comes in and he's like, I'm gonna be Land Shark. I'm gonna be Land Shark. We should make t-shirts. Like day one, day one in the group.

In his defense, I have a t-shirt of that, but that's because it was my college mascot, which was meta because it was in Vermont and we weren't near the water. No, no. Literally Hollywood daddy was gonna just kick him out of the street. He almost liked me out immediately.

We just looked at each other and were like, Anthony. You're not gonna take this seriously. You're not in the club. You can't just use any of you taking anything seriously.

You can't be a shark. If you're not in my defense, Spanky ended up getting, he wanted to know what I got the shirt. And I believe he got a mako shark shirt. He did get a mako shark shirt.

Yeah. Whatever, so fine you corrupted it. You guys are trying to act cool when in reality you all want the shirts. And we cleaned it up.

I became Tiger Shark. And I still am Tiger Shark. Wait, what was my mako? I'm gonna be Bull Shark.

A Bull Shark. That's right. My mako was Bull Shark, which was perfect. Absolutely perfect for her.

So you're saying we need to just get him laid or get him blow jobs? Give him laid. Well, I mean, we're supposed to do that with Tom, you know, when he did facilities for all those years and we failed because, you know, he's always in the parking lot. He was already getting blow jobs in the parking lot.

But you know, that's not really why. I mean, I'm gonna happy to be here. Anthony, thank you, obviously, for welcoming us into your home to do this. And hopefully there'll be lots of shenanigans to come until we can find our regular place.

We're in his legit living in that room. We're in his legit living in that room. We're like a Dop to Pet where we just, you know, we're looking for our forever home. We're either in some shabby love ladder in my garage and now we're in a legit living room.

I know, it's creepy. Yeah, but a lot of fuck that shit is going on in this legit room. See, and that's what makes it good. That's what makes it good.

I was telling him the future of orgasm I said in my studio. That happened right there. Right there. Kathy, would you like to go sniff the spot and see if he's lying?

No, thank you very much. It's just like your work work. That smells like your old cum. That's it.

I've got video. I'd rather watch the video than smell the year old cum. Thank you very much. But here's what's really exciting, Kathy.

This is what's really exciting. Love nutrition. Like a drunkenness of things to come. Veritiction.

Love nutrition. You've got to get a lot of pussy, because you need some love nutrition. What? Kathy, love nutrition.

Let me tell you about love nutrition. Oh my God. Because you don't think about that, do you? Time goes by and you're not getting your love nutrition.

And you start turning into kind of, you know, Kathy. You know, like a dick. And there's like a whole category of it. And so.

Now, I is as in shock at what you just said. Explain yourself. Well, what I'm saying is I've been very shut down. Explain your insult.

What? They just roll, Kathy. Look, to have you learned by now, 231 shows that we just consult each other. Wow.

And sometimes, that's all right. You didn't like me. I like you even know. Yeah, that's a lot of them.

Like what? There's degrees. Like that's what you. It's degrees of dislike.

If it's only 0.75, then I really feel good. And I can't believe you. So no, Kathy, you know that. Yeah.

And even though your hair is a little old lady. Oh my God. But it'll go out. I'm sure.

And then it'll be sexy again. So anyway, love nutrition. Very important. And you know, me who's been busy with all her things.

And I've been busy with my things. And it's been all chaotic and whatever. And don't flick me. Don't flick me unless you want to do it to my balls.

Oh, I can flick your balls. Do you want to flick my balls? Yes. Can you flick my balls and not punch them?

You said you had me do this once. And you're like, oh man, I don't flick my balls. Now you're asking me again? Wow.

Can you really? Wait a minute. I actually really want to ask that question. Did we also have to do the testicle exam?

Wasn't that going to be a thing? That was your exam. No, you let every. Dell have no one.

You have doubled the testicles. It's better to check your. Dell has learned the magic. The magic of when women ask to see your junk, you're like, OK, here you go.

And now you've got a room full of women. Like I'm like, all right, Dell, I'm going to leave. And everyone wanted to look at Dell's one testicle. And Dell was, you know, it was all caught women in the room.

And Dell did something really wise. He just said, that sounds like a great idea. Here's my dick. Because the dick is next to it.

And now you've got a room full of cute women looking at your junk. So you fooled them into looking at the dick? I don't know how Dell worked. I was in Central.

They came for the ball. They stayed for the dick. Shrewed move. Give me a little clap on that.

I think you're supposed to come for the dick. Never mind. Oh, geez. Oh, geez.

Anthony Puns. Do we really need this living room? Yes, we do. I got to have the storage gather.

You just got to get there before it's sex. It was a little rugged, but we could have had it. Goddamn it. But no, so anyway.

Nutrition. So we were getting a little declined. And Mew had been getting more and more into when she does have free time. Let's get into gaming and whatever.

And we knew that there was a family trip that was coming up. And then her mom was going to leave early to go on this family trip far away. Oh, yes, you told us this in the last show. And so then it was like, OK, well, now it's hard to have orgy time in the ravioli.

Yes, we've told this the story. Very not easy. You make it work because that's what you got. You got to work with what you got.

But then all of a sudden, so it's the first weekend that we have at the boat. And so I'm like, Mew, you need some love nutrition. I'm going to depend on you. And we both just made this thing up because we had a new play partner that we played with.

That was amazing. It was it was a lot of fun because that new energy. And then you're exploring. And it's somebody that's now exploring themselves and stuff like that.

So of course, it was very sexy and new and whatever. But then it was also fucking sexy and hot. And Mew and this girl, double into dildo, the whole thing. And all of a sudden, I'm remembering, like, oh, that's right.

This is amazing. And that was Friday. And then we're like, OK, let's take a day off Saturday. And then, Bunny, we haven't seen in a couple months either.

Because she's been all busy with all her school and magic and whatever. So she came over on Sunday. So in one weekend, and once again, I'm clean the dildo, clean the dildo in between. But let's put condoms back on it and get those girls back hooked up.

So in other words, you've had your fill. She has been filled. Look at her. Just look at her face.

In her blanket. Ear to ear. In her blanket. Get in her.

Sing it with me, Gabby. Now I'm out. I don't jump in here. It's a fix to come.

Veritiction. Look at her. Look at her face. That's right.

Just so in a sense. You've got to get a lot of pussy because you need some love nutrition. You need some pussy? Yeah.

She did. Was that another storage room jingle? No, that was actually on the boat. Oh, you recorded that on the boat?

I recorded it on the boat. You know, just I had a little sip. Yeah, this is so bad. Nice.

So this is the reason. I'm happy. I'm happy. It was like all of a sudden we're like, oh, yeah, that's right.

We play with people. And I know we had started coming back to that. But it was just the fact that we had two amazing visits. And it was just great.

And it was just great to literally pull me away from her video game, which there was some kicking and screaming. Literally. And I was like, that's how she sounds. It's really annoying.

I can't believe it with her five years. And I'm like, look, just for the love of fucking God, get away from the game. You had to pull out the don card. I did.

I did. I did. I did. Of course, once the partner shows up, she's like, yay.

So it was just push that mojo. It's good. Push that mojo. So now a little little doctor laser snake over there.

It was fun. It was a lot of fun. What'd you do? Hi, the usual Craig Vexplorers house.

The usual. Well, you know, he was right near the fires. Oh, really? I'm going to get a dig this weekend.

I'm going to get a dig this weekend. I'm going to get a fire. You're fucking homes burning to the ground. You eat it.

Shit. Maybe you should have bought something with more brush clearing. I'm not getting the D. Those were almost literally my thoughts.

Carrots were your thoughts. I'm such a good guy. You know, next time the fire department comes by, maybe you ought to fucking heat the warning asshole. Do you see this?

Cooch? Do you see the cobwebs in this? All right now. Shut up and put your dumb horse on a trailer.

I don't give a shit. Oh my God. Irritable is true. Irritable is true.

I get irritable when there's more than a couple of... Well, this is a problem with getting regular dig is then you get turned into an irritable nasty cunt when you don't get it. Is that what my problem is? Yeah, you are a nasty irritable cunt.

I'm a nasty but look. Now I'm all happy. I'm like, oh yeah. I put down my game.

I'm like, I don't want to play Pokemon. Go. I just want to play Pokemon. Remember what it's like to make music and make love, Kathy.

Did anyone else do that? Same time. Do it again. Well, I have gamed.

Oh, of course. Who has that music in sex? I guess you can do game in sex. I have.

I've definitely done guitar in sex. I've never done guitar kind of holds up there. And then if you can separate the two and stay focused and let the rhythm happen with the guitar that works, video gaming, I did that with a biz. I remember this.

We used to have challenges like go down on her while she was trying to play Mario Kart and she was vicious at Mario Kart. She kicked my ass almost every time. And so, but she would try to distract each other. Who else has done that?

Video game. Video game. Yeah. Video game.

We've done video game sex. All right. That's a challenge. Yeah.

I specifically went to a party where the point of the game was distraction video games. Nice. There were a couple of people playing double duty, but it was just a lot of like diddling and teasing while you're trying to play the game. I think I did pretty well.

There are definitely some distractions that caused me to hit the person. But yes. Nice. Mac, I'm upside the head.

Anthony's like my age. He's like, no, I just fuck girls on that carpet. Yeah. The solitaire, 1989 count on a PC.

No Anthony. It does not. That green screen and just in the cards come up and it's literally like three kilobytes a whole game. Just to go analog.

Good. I definitely have watched porn while having sex. But that's on the internet. You know what?

And we've talked about that on the show. I actually have a hard time watching porn and having sex at the same time. Like I just get so distracted. But you fantasize while you're having sex at all?

Yeah. But see, the thing is, porn is a single image and if I'm watching it by myself, I can do it. But if I'm trying to focus, because it's a complete, here's what it is. It's a complete, I don't know, dichotomy, different contradiction.

Contradiction because when I watch porn, it's so I can fucking get hard, jerk off, come and go to sleep in as soon as possible. But when I'm with a partner, it's about not coming. It's about creating an environment for them. It's about that whole interaction.

And so having this thing draw me from the side that's saying, you're just supposed to jerk off and go to sleep. And then going, no, I have this real human here that I don't want. I suppose if it was a role play where I made a foam core glory hole or something and had point, all tanties like, yeah, that's do that. Yeah, more like that kind of thing.

Under the desk while you're doing it. Yeah. But then I still, that's not my sex. My sex is interacted with the partner.

I'm like, you do it. It's distracting for me. But gaming, I can do. I only did that to credit score once he gained while he played Mario Odyssey.

Well, you went down on it. Did you like it? Did you feel used? I found, well, yeah.

But I found that him being distracted wasn't, I don't know. I didn't like it. I mean, it didn't do anything for me. Yeah.

It could be worse. He could have been playing a board game. So much worse. That's true.

Don't give him any ideas. He just listens to this show. Just building characters real slow going by the way. He's gonna invite you the next game day.

He's clapping. Well, that sounds like a fucking thrill a minute, don't it? You know, I'm not gonna be there. You're gonna be there.

Cheetos! Damn a woman! Cheetos! So what else?

Anything else going on before we move on? No. That's it? What?

Del? Yes? I have finally bought him again. It's been months.

Congratulations. It's quite fun. What was done to you? I got camed and they had some giant chain mail, like, vlogger thing.

It was like drag and like, interlock. So it was quite heavy. Wow. It was in the classroom of the place we don't mention.

Yeah. Did you enjoy yourself? Yes. I slept quite well once I got to sleep.

I was in the sleep after having a good scene. It's a bit hard for me. But sleeping. But once you get there, yeah, it's pretty cool.

Never thought about that. Nice. Yeah, something. I actually got to witness part of that.

And you had very nice aftercare too. I was also at the place, not to be mentioned, I guess. And I was also having a very good time. I was telling you earlier, the highlight of that scene for me was I was trying to be all dumbly bad ass holding two litachis in one hand and reaching back for my iced coffee.

And I accidentally squeezed it and blew the top off and all the coffee all over the fucking door. Oh, Uber dumplings! So, yeah. But I think my friend...

Did you finish the girl? I stayed with the girl and I left it to him. And one of the board members cleaned up the mess and I felt terrible about it, but not that terrible. But they were both...

But I know who you were talking. You told me who it was. And at that point it becomes like group mission. You're like, all right, this bitch needs the nut.

And you're not going to cut that out because that would be dickish. And then she asked me later, did you feel like an idiot? And I said, well, a bit. But I also had a hot, naked girl bent over sucking a dildo tape to a table while hitting it with two litachis.

So I didn't feel like that would be good. Yeah, there's just not a loss. And here's the thing, and this is something that I think is always important. And everyone who's been to a dungeon knows this.

The more, because Anthony, like me and everyone in this room, we have a lot of fun when we play. And a lot of times you're seeing have a lot of laughter and there's a lot of creativity and goofiness and the toys and things like that. So when you fuck up, everyone's just like, ah, everyone laughs. But when someone is uber serious, we just wait.

We wait for anything that makes them look stupid. And we savor it. Like statistically say it. You know what I'm saying?

Like I've seen so many people that just walk in and act like, ah, I'm the uber domino. It doesn't matter. And we see them. And then they'll like swing their flogger and wrap around their own fucking head.

And you know, there's something stupid. And we're all just like, ah, you fucking ass. It's great. He just reminded me that, yeah, we didn't lose the crowd, which that was the other cool thing.

I actually made her stand up at a certain point and look around the room when I realized, fuck, there must have been 20 people. I mean, there were people even just kneeling down in the middle of watching the walkway, because I told you where we were in the room. Everyone was watching the scene. I said, do you realize everyone's watching you right now, for instance?

I mean, it was like a very kind of humiliating kind of like, it was hot. Yeah. I get out like that. I said, life is the place where you want to cornstplay with the fucking chugger in the hands of the horns, because that's the kind of freaky shit that happens on the line.

When they're getting love nutrition, I still don't really think. It wasn't the greatest jingle I ever had, but it was, you know, it's an odd phrase. Love nutrition. Okay.

If it works for you, boogie. I said, well, I said that to her. And I'm like, but you need your love nutrition. And then I went, oh, I got a right to jingle.

Right now. I was going to go for a walk. I was going to pick up the goddamn guitar and write a love nutrition dingle. Damn creative people.

All right. Everything stops for jingles, I guess. It's written by Sebastian called on femdom and the value of gendered spaces. He says in the past, I've embraced a number of really toxic beliefs about, quote, getting women.

Having partners was a matter of presenting in such a way as to convince women to be with you. Now, I did learn that you don't put pressure on your partner for things they aren't comfortable with. And I judge those who did. But not because I saw that kind of pressure as abusive.

It was simply because girls don't like that. But despite the cishet masculine face I presented, my interests as a sub have remained constant throughout my life. My attraction was ever towards those who carry dominance and power, but that attraction ran so utterly counter to everything I had ever seen, so opposed to how men and women just are that it was beyond considering. So I trendled on viewing these seeking of relationships in the same way a primitive shaman might view a divine ritual.

But on this outfit, perform these preparations, go through exactly these steps. And if your dark secrets and techniques are of sufficient quality, the gods might dain to bless your harvest this season, which frankly is hysterical. So he continues in this manner. I'm just going to interject here in paraphrase.

He gets more and more frustrated and exhausted with the whole process because basically everything involves burying or hiding or discarding his actual interests or feelings. Eventually he goes out into the kink world, he tries some things that don't work, some things that do work, goes through this for smudge, starts attending parties, and he ends up going almost exclusively to all femdom events. And this is how he finishes his post. Now I attended general events of course, but the femdom spaces were ever my preferred and most at home communities.

So this finally brings me to the point of my writing. What made those events so much more my own spaces? Certainly they were within my niche, but that wasn't the core of it. It was because the femdom spaces I found absolutely destroyed every frustrating notion I had ever grown to resent about typical masculine expectations and dating culture.

Everything I had an interest in as a sub had a negative connotation in masculine culture. Just being submissive in general runs totally counter to the male ideal of the assertive swab in control guy. The notion of sex as a form of conquest so deeply ingrained in much of the male identity had no ground here. I have always loved the general spaces.

The endless variety is what makes the kink community so bottomless and fantastic. But for me, those femdom gendered spaces felt most like home because they spoke to my experience. One size fits all can be comfortable, but few things compare to something well fitted to you. Spaces that speak to common but specific experience will always fail to reach those who don't share it.

But for those who do, almost nothing fits better. Doesn't it make you think? Absolutely. I love this post and this is one that particularly tore me up inside to tear it apart like I normally have to.

It was a little long. It was a long time ago. But he actually went into greater detail and explained very well how far he went in trying to fit into that role. And doing it from a very benign place.

He says I wasn't really trying to fool anyone. I was trying to learn what the rules were. This is what you do. You treat them well because this is what they like and this is what you get at the end of it.

And the reason I chose this post was because lately, I would say maybe in the last five or eight years, specific play spaces that are geared toward only specific group specific age group specific orientations have come under fire because they're seen as being as segregated negative connotations to these. And I've never understood that. I've always loved those spaces. For me in particular being in all women's spaces has been great.

Being in femdom spaces has been great. And I never understood what the pushback was. Why people got offended because they weren't allowed in those spaces. First of all, why would you want to be in those spaces?

Exactly. You deny someone else having that. And in reading this post, I thought he's really explained it very eloquently. This is the reason why when you, some people will say it's not a very balanced to have that.

There should be more balance in a party and to say you people are not allowed but you people are isn't balanced. But for him, this is the balance. He has lived the majority of his life in not a terrible space, but in uncomfortable space. For him to immerse himself in a space in which femdom is the main theme running through all of it and everybody there understands it and loves it is the balance.

Just balancing his life and getting there what he does not get in the regular everyday living of life. Nothing. I enjoy your point of view. But no, we've talked about this.

I'm glad we brought this up because it hasn't been something that we've talked about in a while because we haven't been attending a lot of dungeon events. It's where we're exposed to niche parties and stuff like that. And of course there's little parties, adult age playing parties and rope parties and femdom parties and different men's only parties, women's only parties. When we're in it, we definitely understand because we have a variety.

So it's easier to see the benefit because we also see the balance because the majority of the parties are pansexual, come as you are, play as you are. And a lot of the points that I would make is I always come to the conclusion that I love the idea that people say I am a femdom, I'm a male submissive, we should have a party that opens the doors and focuses primarily on that. I'm a big supporter of that. I'm also a big supporter of people having their own rules.

They're rules for their party are as long as everything's consensual and legal. Absolutely. If you want people to wear funny hats with lama dicks on top of them, then that's cool. And I've shared that before on the show.

And so when I read this, I'm like, well, I totally understand the for our area, a lot of the cis, head, male, this is how men are all that way hasn't really been as true in the community in Los Angeles, at least in my experience, in probably quite a while. Like it's balanced out a lot more because there are so many switches and male submissives, especially in the last five, seven years, switches are just literally now, I would say, almost over 50% of the attendees. So it's a lot more embraced the fact that men want to bottom to either men or women or not, you know, days or whatever. So when I hear that post, from my point of view, I'm trying to think, where is this?

Where is this place that is still very aggressive on to be, to get a woman, you must act, you know, like the macho Fabio whipping hair chest dominant guy. Yeah, but to clear it, maybe I didn't make it clear in the reading because I cut out too much. All that that he explains about those roles that he took on happened before he gets into the king community. Right.

So this is, he's describing his experience in the everyday living of life, not in the community. In the normal, in the normal. And we do, and that I definitely agree, the media obviously still portrays a lot of that, that male, male in control, you know, kind of thing. But let me be clear, I have no problem with that at all.

Sure. That is the major. That's not the dynamic that you're desiring. And I absolutely believe in what you say that having a place like a femdom party or those types of munch is groups and so forth, absolutely believe that is critical to feeling comfortable in your own skin, to where you don't have to pretend or follow some social norms.

The thing that I have always found to be a negative about niche parties is when the people that attend those parties only go to those parties because you don't discover anything new. I can sinuously go back to the fact that I was way more homophobic. I was way more transphobic. I was way more switchphobic.

I was way more into so many of my religious macho Christian programming prior to being forced into experiences with people that are doing things different than me. And if I would have just gone to uber, head, male, you know, female, weak, submissive parties, I never would have grown because I never would have been exposed to all these amazing people that do things different than I do. Does that make sense? It does make sense.

I think you're viewing that from your very specific experience. And there are some women I know who absolutely will not go to a party unless it is a femdom party. That's your choice. I just think you're going to any other kind of party for whatever reason, whether it's triggering them, whether they've tried it and realized, yep, not for me.

I'm out of there. But what are we doing at our parties as a community? No, we're going to the community. What are we doing at our pansexual parties that is alienating somebody, like say a female dominant?

What are we doing at that party that is so alienating that they cannot play with their male? Why do they have to be alienate? Why does someone have to be alienated in order to prefer a femdom party? They don't have to feel alienate.

They just have to like that space more. But once again, I go back to the fact that you absolutely do whatever you want. Live your life however you want. What I'm interjecting is you're missing out on a lot of things that may get you past.

I have gotten past insecurities and hang ups and my sexuality and my developing sexuality. That is now completely nothing I ever figured it would be because specifically because I forced myself to be in situations where I was around these people. Not everybody wants to force themselves the way you do. Well, okay, I'm great that you grew.

But then some of those people, they went to those parties and they didn't like them and they found what they liked. I'm sure there's some people that said I'm never going to those. I just don't want to. But I think or I'm guessing majority of them have tried other parties and they just don't like those vibes.

So they go with what they like. And I think what you're describing is true of any area in life in which you're not exploring. I am absolutely 100% guilty of this. There are many times I have opportunities in front of them and I don't take them because of my fears or my insecurities.

I am not a perfect human being. I never will be and I have beaten myself up my entire life and continue to do so for not being better, smarter, whatever it is I'm supposed to be. But in the end, your life is yours to live and there are things that you absolutely love and there is no reason whatsoever for you to after a long hard work week deciding to do what the fuck you want to do because it makes you feel good. And sometimes what ends up happening is fine.

The expansion of my mind and my experiences will fall victim to this because I just want to go and enjoy my weekend. And I once again do what you want. But as somebody who for myself is on a show that is trying to expand people's minds and trying to get them to see outside of themselves and to more self actualize. I'm not I'm not saying everyone can do whatever the fuck they want on the weekend.

But what I'm addressing is that I'm saying yeah I'm saying this is there is so much to facing some fears. Okay fine you don't go to you go to the femdom party 75 times try an adventure in life because how do you really know that what's at the end isn't going to in fact make you happier, more peaceful, more serene, more tolerant, less hung up, less miserable in your life because you're so focused on just well I just don't want to learn anything about myself so I just want to do what I like and I just want to stay in this little box. My job and I'm taking my job because that's what I do look it's my microphone I bought it I'm going to say it get the fuck out of your comm space get the fuck out of your little your little sheet box and try some shit that's going to make you possibly happier because that's what it's done for me do it if you want that's my rant. I will tell you don't drop the mic it's the only one we have it's true.

Speaking as a bitter angry past volunteer the community can go fuck itself and do whatever the hell it wants and go to hell in a hand basket is not my responsibility to make them expand their horizons they can go to hell for us. I don't care about this. This is perfect podcast community. I love the listeners but if they want to go to a femdom party for the rest of their lives then more power to them not saying they can't but I'm going to suggest they don't Anthony needs the mic.

I was like yes I mean I know that there are some femdoms who don't go to parties because what they like to do that there's a missives is still yucked in a lot of situations like especially like CBT like you go to more of a like a pansexual party there it's not going to be as accepted but I got a femdom party it's going to be a lot more accepted and so there like I understand the idea of going and playing at other parties but I've also went and played at a different club during on a swingers night and because I was it was something that I hadn't really experienced before and it was one of the most uncomfortable play experiences I have ever experienced so it's I understand the idea of going to parties to expand your horizons but if it's something that's not going to make you happy then I don't think you should force not arguing that point but did you look at yourself and say what about this made me uncomfortable this is the shit I get into that yes everything is for fun and whatever but we can't say that our journey into our sexuality isn't some learning process where we may discover other things about ourselves so yeah I wasn't comfortable there are we spending time going why what did what power did I give this individual or was it everyone in the room because that's what happens a lot of times you go in there's one or two people that give you a dirty look and then you're like this place sucks did everyone at that place give you a dirty look did everyone make you feel marginalized did everyone say your CBT was wrong what is it are we spending time I'm going to just go ahead and encourage people to take that extra look at what bugs them about being around other people that do things differently than them I want to circle it back to the actual poster and guessing that this poster is an older poster one of the things I and I relate to that I'm over 50 and when I came into the scene 25 26 years ago there was no internet and so my exposure to the scene was through pro dungeons which were very much more there were switches there were some missives there were tops and I played all of that back then I've gone much more top east since I've been in our scene but I can tell you just my own personal experience having told people the story I just told you at some of the parties I have actually gotten that yuck I would never do that kind of thing the submissive part of it there is this especially if you're older and you grew up much more in the kind of attitudes that he highlights in his post you really a lot of people carry a lot of guys I'm talking about now heterosexual guys carry a lot of shame about that I and I my hats off to the younger generations I think it is a generational thing I think a lot of the younger people I know in their 20s and their late teens are much more comfortable with that and they don't carry a lot of baggage those of us who are older came up with and let's be honest I mean I can go pretty much every weekend to multiple parties that are pretty much my demographic top emails and submissive females primarily there aren't that many niche parties and I applaud Boogie's self-esteem you really have a lot of it I mean you don't let someone doing that kind of shit to you bother you for some people that's really fucking devastating just one person at a party yucking your thing that's enough to ruin it and so there needs to be a safe space and that's what these are in my opinion I've always viewed them as safe spaces and they went out of very few parties that maybe just this at my party and I don't begrudge that at all I mean a heterosexual white male born in the latter after the 20th century they're pretty fucking good deal for me you know I don't feel like I grieved in any way you know let them have the femdom parties I don't need to be invited I don't need to top at a femdom party that's when you microphone is gonna end up hurting someone I was just getting several times that we're almost able to put some bean bags on it or something hey tell are you in the chat room is that what you're doing what's going on in there yep I'm in the chat room are you telling what we're talking about yes what are they saying one they suggested char-knado and two that's what I want to hear from the chat where's P October the one half the one see we had I knew it tell them tell them what happened the first week the first week we forgot you and I yeah the second week you forgot yeah and so we're gonna do two weeks in November yeah in the car and apologize we will apologize tell them we're old and our hearts are cold I knew they've noticed it's a good jingle I was chatting and I started a type kinkster and my phone autocorrected to minister and I thought that was kind of I was hot it's some 50s household shit you need to put our jingle yours and I we are all yeah so put it up there so that we can do it more well it was a good post we did spend a long time but it was I was a great topic so thanks everybody for weighing in good stuff and thank you so much to Sebastian for giving us permission to talk about all that craziness are we doing PVP now yes we are we're gonna read it the bird and mail box because you need to know that's my favorite not as good as love nutrition no love nutrition sucks okay love new to listen to it seven more times love nutrition lack of junk and it's a fix to calm their addiction no nutrition you gotta get a lot of pussy cuz you need some love nutrition I believe that is your school hot house rap submission for the show did you just see you yeah she put her thumbs down you just give a thumbs down she's on daddy's jingle this is our relationship has changed so much she got accepted to med school she's just like fuck you fuck your music so are they gonna top you now huh they're gonna top you now yeah they're gonna try then that's not gonna work in the reveal what all right raul wrote to us raul I love that name he says nasa is sending an easy bake up into outer space it's specifically designed to bake cookies one cookie at a time the article said they're getting the dough from hilton hotel boring I'm forwarding this link to you in the event you might want to research this pussy cookies in outer space yes hilton cookies are stale dry and boring pussy cookies are sweet chewy delicious and always oozing with the moist that is so I didn't see that that is so correct could you imagine the international ties we would create with russia chai everyone up to the international space station you eat some pussy cookies no that would be amazing these is great cookie I love america this is good this game from vagina right I love this pussy cookie that's what that's that's literally would create peace among the world is pretty good will be I tell you what if you get fucking pussy cookies to Isis they'd be like all right it is a good cookie I guess I'm not a fucking we'll put the knives down yeah I just can't be a terrorist anymore because that is amazing you actually had the cookie dough in her pussy I wonder if and then I'll have some conflicts you know mentally and be like yeah can I really can I really hate this it's a fucking cookie who hates a cookie what's he's a fucking cookie I just hate that you created pussy cookies to begin with because they have a long fucking life and I'm never gonna hear the actual cookie doesn't have a long life you know we don't want to you know get sick you know you put it in con you wrap it in plastic you put it in condoms you fucking with it they come you pull it out you take the dough out you put it on a tray you make a cookie that's a pussy cookie as a song I'll play it sometime but those cookies should be in spooky good they should be in our case can you imagine that yeah can you imagine the pride we would have is perverted podcast to be like under the outer space they made post a cookies pride cookies in outer space space space the only thing that would make it better is if they had a Kermit puppet giving the pussy cookie to oh yes like the Russians or you know the Canadians or something yeah absolutely yeah pussy cookies piggy these are for bigy oh my god and they would taste like big good oh my god piggy puggy pussy cookies piggy puggy why are there so many zones about pussy cookies nobody that's it don't ruin Kermit and love it for me oh he's been ruined a long time and what let's talk about that what let's talk about Kermit and fucking piggy the first fucking female dominant male sub relationship in history of television she did give him a lot of hyah's that current piggy he was in service to her he was submissive to her she was dominant of him that is the first example of a female Dom male submissive kids accept it it has been accepted throughout I don't know what he's talking about you everyone agree with me think about it that was a female Dom male sub fucking muppet relationship I didn't see too many balls being kicked or any shit like that going on well it was on a children's show you fucking creeper Jesus Christ maybe some shit was done that's a pretty big leap for your average eight year old I'm sure eight year olds were like that's that's a that that woman is in control please stop I think Lucy for my love Lucy was a bit aggressive sometimes I think she was bratty Lucy was a brat she was and Ricky tried to a couple of times yeah it was fucking watch of course they were those shitty 50's spanking where they kind of like you watch early baby page like when baby page and of course don't we obviously you know all hail Betty Page because she is awesome and who doesn't wish they could go in a time machine that's that once women that like if you had Marilyn Monroe or Betty Page who would you want to go back in time to fuck Betty Page thank you thank you Jesus Christ anyone else yeah I'd have to say Betty Page who Betty Page at least you don't know really these kids I know who Betty Page is wasn't ever like a fantasy or anything I don't know what that but if you had to fuck one of them which would it be don't don't know wow that's moving on is this Marilyn in the last couple of years with a lot of pills or early Marilyn or a trashy fucking loaded midlife fucking Marilyn it's actually pretty hot because you know you know she's gonna do whatever you know she's probably fun like fine Marilyn yeah that was way too plastic no I'm just a bit of a accident you know it wasn't just it just a curly Mick Jagger lip that's what Mick Jagger got his fucking lip from was early seven years old Betty Page you want the real dominant relationship in the 50s of the time you're talking was Ralph crammed in really in charge of that relationship yeah he was no he absolutely was not no she wasn't charged so there are lots of examples he talked big talk you know to the moon but he never did okay what's the next one going on this one is from Zara who says hi P P P I was listening to the podcast from two weeks ago and I just wanted to say super ticket you know the job was dangerous when you took it Fred I understand I know I know just the desperation that poor fucking lion's voice I go in to the super good bed he says I understood that reference I've never seen the episodes but my dad does the same thing and just randomly breaks in singing the intro I'm only 28 so not everyone under 33 is lost also boogie I love your Pokemon exploits I know I get behind a lot but every time you mention that Pokemon you're after I know how far back I am when I'm binge listening you're basically tracking tracking I keep I keep the kids it's my it's my secret Pokemon go channel is out yeah because you watch all the regular Pokemon channels and they're all it's like very family friendly they don't cuss or whatever and then there's you then there's me pogo saying there's more he says thanks for continuing the show even during rough patches I love listening to you guys especially during Destiny 2 gaming sessions it makes for better sounds than just the same old dialogue and gun sound effects I guess we wow that was pretty bad alternative to the guns come on Kathy let's have a gun battle with each other right I can't do it too I like how she sounds like the ricocheting sound I very Hansel laser kind yeah yeah you are I would say Anthony you're a cinematographer of the group you know sorry that's good it's good we can fix it in post oh it is so true there are so many things that you're like if I just take out this mid-range that all of a sudden cram the base throw compressed running anything else in the chat window before we go on they're very focused on the reverse inclusive or restrictive parties they're just it's a giant thing now see what you started buggy okay I have tried to tell Dell to not give them discussions I don't actually ever said that now you have it I think I know okay have it you ask what they're saying about stuff no no I've said that it is better for the chat room to not necessarily get because we want something different I just say something don't just get them to the chat room just you have a chat room in like two months well I because it's where they're just talking about what we're not tell deal with the chat we get when they come what was the thing you said they said before that they suggest our NATO that's the the comic relief we need we need to hear their only funny serious no no just weird shit don't tell them what we're talking about just say what kind of fucked up shit you guys have and then that way it gives us like a little relief to where we can chain because a lot of times we used to go off on on different tangents because they would talk about random stuff so I want to get tell them what we're talking about tell them whatever you want I'm sorry I'm just making the suggestion because I've turned on that no so the idea of delicate cupcakes came up and somebody's retort was more like a souffle than a cupcake jar jar them enough that they deflate what the hell is it like a souffle is like an it has to like deflate there you happy this is the kind of stuff that you get when you try and dictate to the chat room what they should talk about I love it I love I love inflated souffle cakes no I like it better than them talking about what we're talking about how do you even know what you just said they're talking about what we're talking about we're talking about we're talking about what we're talking about you didn't even know it because you didn't acknowledge well I'm gonna start we're in a place now they'll has a specific spot there's a swivel mic there you know what half a PPE you and I argue on half a PPE all the entire freakin show is you and I can't think I think half a PPE you just realize that this is what we do but we're doing it for two hundred and thirty minutes so it's like a regular episode that you cut out all the other stuff and we're driving and we're driving yes no there's one thing about me but they can't do it if you know it so if they look at chat you'll find it I feel like I've just been overstepped here yes you have see what happens when you're trying to sing with a plunger oh yeah see like that wait a minute on me wait a minute hang on a sec I was like so I get a plunger who used to do that we never had much I won't say his name but I know exactly yeah yeah I used to wear the Ming the Merciless jacket rope guy really really I've seen them around they still have a plunger yeah and he's good you know he has like all the different sized plungers and plunging plays it's like cupping but much larger yeah it's like helping and then you can like if you if you you know get it wet and stick it in you can actually drag them around for a little while and actually that's what I did oh my god that's what I did last night with fucking bunny and you it was amazing I human flargative because I did you know we ended up in a long time so I put a chest harnesses on both of them because bunny doesn't like her hands down so I had chest harness and then I make handles in the back rope handles and then you can kind of move them around and I know she doesn't like she needs to have her hands free so and sometimes she's okay with it she's like I trust you I know you're gonna take care of me there's a safety scissors whatever you know a little bit of prep and she can do it but it went and played in a long time so I'm like what's not looking fuck with shit but I had her handled and and I had a bunny bent over the bed which was sexy and I had mute by the handle and I'm all human flogger and I swing her arms like go make your arms floppy and she makes her up and I start swinging her back and forth and she starts smacking bunnies ass with her floppy arms and it just sounded so good it was good it hurt her hands you found you because it hurt her hands you hurt me you both yeah I do that it's a sadomasochistic kind of yeah oh now she just got paid from you so now she's greening but it was awesome human floggers someone used to do that the guy that made the blown glass handles I forget his name too but he made a handles that you actually bind I have one of them and you can it's a glass handle but it has rings in it and then you can do a bondage thing and then actually a handle so you can drag your bottom around and that's where I originally got the idea from course that was a very expensive fancy blown glass thing very talented I'm gonna go ahead and press the next thing I'm just excited Kathy I can tell plus I'm gassy and I'm trying to just not do that we're not precise we don't have like said we are not always nice but we're here if you need some fucking advice all right this is an email we received from spanky D33 spanky D who says I am a new listener thanks to hearing you on the thanking ABS yay welcome you'll be leaving soon and I need some advice I don't think so after this well maybe the advice might be better he says I am deeply in love with my wife of 13 years she is my goddess at least I think so although she rolls her eyes at me when I say so we've been trying to spice things up a bit and she recently read the Fifty Shades trilogy oh my god and has become a bit more adventurous but she holds back and isn't willing to push my limits now I admit that they are high we have a I don't know how to pronounce this a delrin cave del dell ryan can't let's say it's hard to ask right okay you know it's like yeah break yeah she says and if I'm lucky she might give me 100 lashes 100 can I just interject here that yes your limits are very high you're definitely got some some stamina he says but I need more she gets squeamish when she starts raising welts and marks and has a real problem with the idea of quote punishing me or making me beg I really want her to go harder and push my limits and be turned on by it now I have to interject here because when I read that my first thought was not asking for much are you but you want to be raised welts and you want her to like it but I want you to squirt chocolate vanilla and strawberry ice cream out of your couch under a cone for me to eat not asking for much and I will say that I change my mind when I read on because he does he gives this one example about how he's not into nipple play but she likes it a lot but because she gets off on it he in turn gets himself off even though it's not his thing he gives this as an example to explain that he believes that she first of all she has a reference point so she understands what he's not saying and that he believes that she can that he can't possibly find a way to turn her around she's not trying to make her do something she wanted to okay so how can I help her enjoy it so she has turned on by me getting off on it how do I get her to understand that lots of marks and bruises and even some cuts are a good thing not a bad thing and I will say that this part was really good he says that he is very expressive in telling her that it's it's really making him hot but she doesn't seem to understand that this is very intimate for me and it makes me feel very close to her it's me making myself totally vulnerable to her how can I make it more appealing to her or incentivize her to go harder and longer and leave some significant marks all right you can go first you know you it's about the journey not destination that was a good that was a good gun battle yeah I was production for so far thanks good only go so far at some point you're like you guys are fully fired suck it fully I'll tell you how amazing that would be if you like put up like an old Clint Eastwood Western and then you and I voice over to all the gun battles and he's like I'm gonna fucking kill you be amazing be good be like mystery science theater or something okay I have a lot of thoughts on this and the first thought is hold slow down there cowboy just slow down you started this with she just picked up the 50 shades of grey and now I want you to push my limits beyond a hundred lashes and raise welts and understand that my service to you and my submission and the power exchange and all of the things and what what I heard missing was there's some attempts at communication but you are really getting the cart ahead like way ahead of the horse as far as what her headspace has to be she said you said it makes her feel uncomfortable to get to this side in the idea what was the thing that made her uncomfortable when he she gets pushes into the point where he's begging her right right that that she has not wrapped her head around that type of power exchange and that is absolutely fine for somebody who just picked up 50 shades of grey which doesn't really just explain the intimacy of that type of intense power exchange she's probably never looked at herself in that relationship and that power exchange with you but she is willing to play with you she is willing to experiment and this time is so fucking critical that you do not blow her out of the goddamn water with this that you don't make her shut off or feel bad that what she's doing isn't good enough are you and we talk about this all the time to new people you have to make sure that you are validating her ten times more than you are suggesting that you need more because bottoms always want more in a place and I could have gone more I could have taken more you're right you can a masochist can almost always take more we understand that and that's your desire and it's a valid desire but you are asking somebody who has never experienced that level of intensity in their own mind to do to the person that they're in a long-term relationship with and if you do not validate them every step of the way they will start to feel shitty about themselves why am I doing this thing that makes me feel uncomfortable fuck it I'm just not gonna do anything because obviously I'm not doing it right so make sure that you are validating and then the other thing is is the communication has to improve we have to get away from the play get away from the hitting get away from that it's hot and it turns you on but validate her on what that does for the connection you guys have in your relationship but you know I very good points I will say that validating will only go so far if that isn't already in her right if somewhere inside of her there's a part that you can access and be have that part come out that enjoys that then his endeavors at trying to incentivize her are going to bear fruit if as you say he goes slow and he does it the right way but no amount of incentivizing is going to get her to go harder if it's just not in her right okay so the other thing I wanted to say is you did bring up a good point that 50 shades of grace you just started to read it that's not exactly a good example of a consensual healthy DS relationship and that may be your biggest problem right there is that if that's what she's using then she's a very smart woman to say I want to go where these people went because that is fantasy that is pornography it is not real life and I've read all three of those books and that's not consensual non-consensual he does not he takes a tremendous amount of liberties with that character and it is not a good example of what you should be doing if that's what she's reading she is right to think that's abusive and I don't want to take the man I love into that place so that is you know get her away from 50 shades of grey and get her either into the community or she's not comfortable there simply attending munchies and classes because there she's gonna meet real people who can go into detail about what the mind frame of a person is like who loves to be hurt by someone they love it's not easy as you set to wrap your mind around that that kind of play I've said this a couple of times on the show when I've talked about creative floor pushing me hard and making me cry and really hurting me and me saying it seems contradictory it's it doesn't make really a lot of sense why would I want someone to hurt me and why would he want to do that how can that make us closer I get it it's difficult to understand you will only understand it if you go through it yourself but number one in my opinion is get her away from those fucking books they are what is messing up ahead if you have any hope of getting to a part of her that wants to do what you want her to do find some other examples for her to read other than those fucking books I like that good good yes Anthony you know I loved what Kathy said I was thinking it too I don't know where they are but if they're anywhere near a community there's so much to be gained just by going and observing and possibly even meeting someone that can help guide her through that I can offer my own experiences at home early on in the scene where I met you guys talking to someone that was more experienced I was kind of known as a status and I would play with women that wanted more and I wasn't comfortable getting there yet and I talked to them about it and it's really one of those things that the more familiar with it the more times you play and I don't know what the time frame on his entire post how recently yeah but I really think getting other more experienced people even if you're just watching them if you want to have discussions with them it also occurred to me that this could go sideways so I don't know take this with a grain of salt but even the right professional Dom the right not the wrong and there's a lot of just in it for the money right sure but certainly we know pro doms that are also in the lifestyle are very wonderful but any any first person experiential things where you're drawing on the experience of other people not just the two of you would be much more helpful I think than books like that absolutely the first time that I saw a very extreme kind of edge play at the club I wasn't squeamish about it but I did look at it from the outside thinking yikes that's never gonna be me I'm never gonna go that far because I simply do not understand it I watched this couple I watched their aftercare I saw them later sitting on a couch laughing together hugging each other holding each other that alone made me much more amenable to going down that path and possibly experimenting if I hadn't seen that kind of and that's all it took I mean I'm not saying that that's that's all you need to see and then you can go back home and get started again but being in the presence of real people who interact and they have real lives and they have kids and they have jobs and they come to the club to do this and they only get to do this once a month you're gonna see couples and how they deal with it in real life how how much how intimate they are just it watching their interaction it just goes along it will tear out of your head any bad expectations you have of it if you if you're looking enough to be like I said we don't know where this guy is or how the very least going on Fet Life and getting involved in groups that have that dynamic and and having this guy's partner find some mentorship online which is very readily available in these fat life groups there are always people there that are willing to give some answers and stuff maybe not completely take you under their wing but and maybe you'll be lucky enough to find someone that that has some good advice you know obviously get more than one opinion but there are sources that are obviously better than 50 shades of grey no it's true this is one area in which your suggestion boogie to get out there and expand your horizons is absolutely something they need to take into account because there is in my opinion little to no hope of you getting to a place where you're pushing past your boundaries if you're only gonna do it in your own bedroom sure it's not gonna happen at least I mean maybe you're living in this little echo chamber where all you have in your head is what you and your husband are discussing or what you read in these fucking books or possibly what you look down on and saw few other things that there's no replacement for being out there and and just being in the community and watching all this stuff happen around you none at all in my opinion absolutely get out there man get out there great question that was a solid question and sad you know because you know someone wants something and I surely we surely don't want to make you feel like we understand you're impatient and surely and we even talked about this a second for the show how how shitty that is because you're in an exclusive relationship and you only have you were saying you only have one you only have one dominant you only have one top so if they aren't able to go where you want to go obviously that's frustrating but unless you're going to make an arrangement with your partner that you can go and find another top to do this with if that is not an option then you really have to balance out the what you're getting from this relationship and be a little more patient anything else yes I was going to recommend alternatives of there's the story of oh okay there is an crisis sleeping beauty series and there's also what the movie is based on the secretary okay I'm gonna go I'm gonna shoot down the secretary because the secretary was an incredibly dysfunctional relationship I've seen that movie about eleven times story of oh and the sleeping beauty chronicles I've read those also and they are so far into fantasy that they don't compare with anything realistic at all sorry yeah but at least they're not consensual like bad non-consensual you know what that's actually very true that's what I was going for yes it is it is a bit more ethical than yeah what got an idea oh kind of you go mr. Cotter what will be great if you uncut the podcast we talked to people about you know how to be more kinky and stuff like that wouldn't be great if we like had some sort of list of books that were actually before what if we had actually read these kind of books we don't we literally can't recommend this shit to people because we don't know these don't use them the teas come on and she would be three episodes yeah she gets sick of us I mean sir she was awesome yeah I was kind of like Chuck from the first season of happy days yeah just kind of disappeared with Chuck go wow that was old remember the grads on straight now the union remember the grantees yeah what happened with the great story the granny panty okay but you would come to peace with those right you know I can't I I you went back here is the same thing right starting to realize that I love my hair the short I love how easy it is to start frankly I love the way it looks but it's just like the granny panties it there is a slippery slow stigma with it that it doesn't matter how much the granny panties feel good doesn't matter how you know great they are they're still granny panties and I can't get them out of my head and the hair is the same thing and I'm wondering is they're ever gonna come a time where I don't give a shit about the stigma and just do it and wear it because it's what I like and keep my hair this way I don't think I am because there comes a time when you get older that and it is an actual moment that you can pinpoint where you say to yourself I think I just became my mother I look in the mirror and that's my mom's body and that's my mom's skin and that's my mom's hair and I'm wearing my mom's granny panties so kinky it's just it's not a good time you know your mom's skin life when you realize you're your mother you just turned and you just like poo someone and you're your mother huh yeah and you and because my entire life I thought okay there's so many things I love about my mom but there's so much that I just never want to be like her and then one day to realize that you are if that happens to me I am jumping off the roof and regretting the fact that this is a one that's sorry how's it gonna spring your ankle they're gonna be like a year to heal that shit I didn't want to be as long as I became my mother now I have a broken like a broken ankle got it suck boy do these granny panties feel good oh okay I got a solution no there's no solution here don't fix me okay it's an Adam Sandler solution there was some movie Adam Sandler did and he was taking her a bunch of kids and the kids were making fun of the kids and when kid pissed himself on accident and quick thinking Adam Sandler saw that the kid was gonna be eviscerated by all the other kids so he instantly took water and splashed his crotch with it and said I'll be my pants too and then all the other kids were like well Adam Sandler is cool so Adam Sandler and this kid peed their pants so all the kids like peed their pants what movie was that am I making this are you saying we have to buy granny panties I think all why where granny panties and just have a granny panties show no it's the one when he is learning disabled and he's like getting taught it's I only saw one clip no no no no I only saw one clip of that but I thought that was cool that was a good good quick move yeah make the kid feel better because I just like that was a kind of place where I I'm letting go of this segment I've heard a podcast for any panties episode I'm just I'm saying I'll do it I'll do like nothing we all wear nothing if I buy you where you panties will you wear them fuck out where I'm okay I'm going for you why not I want to just make sure they're big with sizes he where like she knows she doesn't even know how to feed her so her underwear she doesn't buy you underwear she's like literally just sits there on the couch playing fucking her unscathed I don't know maybe I should eat yeah you should eat you have any in like six hours well what a movie is Billy Madison what a man is that Billy Madison yes okay good Billy Madison I'll do a show I mean you can't wear mine but I'll buy you some that would be pink that would be frozen the friends oh that would be sweet I will sit on this show the guys will move to another couch or something out of the view your nets will be coming out because they know they're granny panties so there's no wear for a package bring your own chair that night please I'll bring some Saran don't put your tesicle on Anthony on this wicker chair so the stinkle sit there I think I heard Kathy says she's gonna buy all of us granny panties so I don't want them but I'm not buying them if you guys aren't wearing them Anthony's all on out he's already got his little kid throwing devil where mine no you have to wear it okay I'll do it I'll just sit here with my belly hanging out and everything okay panies episode okay you can even take pictures and put it on fat life it's a deal done okay all right get I'll go online get like extra large just don't give me tight because you know I don't want to be uncomfortable it's tight why I mean not too tight okay because they'll just rip by my size extra small for Dell okay I want to look at the package deal okay no so we can all bring our own bath towel to sit on I will let you know beforehand so that you guys can be prepared and then we show up and we're like hey hey it's granny panty episode that's a good thing sorry open the door so instead of PJ's next month it will be granny panties granny panies show it is a fifth Monday why don't you tell us this sooner next month next month next month December yes there's a 30th try to get into the show he's the backyard he's just jumped off the roof man I'm just I'm looking for my HMO card I got a spring ankle I'm not gonna be my mom and you're not fucking wearing granny panties in my house I work to get hard for this shit come on it's good and I show are you done yeah that was our show our very first show in Anthony's what castle Anthony's castle I think it's good okay that's what we call Tony's Castle what the fuck Tony's cancel what the fuck okay fucking a alright don't cancel okay come in your life I'm Tony's castle but you gotta say it like that I'm going to show you guys today where if you open the door and Nick my talent me you have questions comments or ideas please email us at perverted podcast or gmail.com and don't forget to visit perverted podcast.com and finally that is the end of the show and please make sure that you're calling because it's been good they've been giving us some stuff please so I really does help every time you can we do it though without the major Kathy fucking guilt trip I'm saying not you but them because like every time you go up to feast your fan in on perverted podcast either I have a bunch of stuff or I got nothing I just wanted to see if we could you know hype our audience give some shit without you get out there for me when I feel like giving it to them and they love it and when we add Kathy on that life so you don't have to research I've gone there's a whenever someone says that Kathy and I get at permission from that poster I will always say I got this from this person very good all right well I don't even know was a show 231 I believe it was I wouldn't know I didn't get it right up oh my little bitch he didn't get that thing said oh my god 231 231 well I guess we'll be back next week in Tony's fucking castle should be Tony's fucking castle yeah but you have to say it every time all right well I said so it's now my thing because you took my line you'll do the closing that we were used to do the intro and then you're like I got to do the intro now I didn't say I said let's mix things up don't make it sound like I want to take you fine you can have it I'll take it you will I will I'll take mine back what fine fine Tony's fucking castle oh you come into your life from that saying come to life what Tony's castle you guys see Tony's fucking castle you're gonna open the door to that ever we brought pussy cookies and the pussy you know in for pussy cookies you got another he's got that look on his face that says when are these people leaving my house let's go come on I got this look on my face this I gotta take a wicked piss fucking in the show he says fine okay we'll see you guys next week hard to be a good man got a good job trying to look in the best I can I just want a good group I'm on a stand loyal and I never ever shoot my nails it seems that's not enough she said if you want to win my part there's just one more little test she's my bad life you well hey the mind gets made good marbles going to psychologically about what she said pretty much yes it's been that way for the last 70 guys I'm so updated so feel it did and I said well okay but I'm gonna take you take a real mind that you stay in my car like you and now I'm sitting on her couch and sweat just forming on my brow and now she's bringing out that cat that will decide if I'm a good man but she got dropped out on my lap started to put her in took a nap girl is I'm really wide as a rock a rock a rock a man but just today in my car like you oh hey my kid made it my first reason I will go into man oh yeah