232. Future Exes (DSC 1.05)

Anika and Liz are thrown into a Klingon prison, where they are absolutely choosing Lorca's pain. But no one is having a worse day than that poor innocent tardigrade!  We're discussing episode five of Star Trek: Discovery's first season, including:  This is the worst Saru episode of the entire series. It's rough, man Overthinking the "five best captains" list For an awful moment, we start to ask dangerous questions like "how many starships does Starfleet have?" This episode is a card trick: your attention is on Harry Mudd, but really it's introducing Ash Tyler Liz has normal and rational feelings about the historical Buran We play a fun game called "which other captains would leave Mudd in the Klingon prison" (Archer) Introducing Ash means we have to talk about Ash, L'Rell and the misguided sexual assault subplot Antimatter Pod: We aren't really into m/m ships Also Antimatter Pod: We will die for Lorca/Tyler Our hot take: Saru did NOT deserve that telescope, this is NOT a sweet scene to be immortalised as a Hallmark ornament, this is REWARDING his BAD BEHAVIOUR