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Nov 21, 2019 1 hr 34 min

233 Thunderbolt And Lightning

from Perverted Podcast Hosted by Count Boogie

Owning your mistakes and a mini-new-love lab? Boogie reaches out for a PP listener "school picture" and lots of un PC jokes and comments! End show song "Jillian"

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Thunderbolton Lightning, very very frightening to me. Galileo. Galileo. Galileo.

Oh, Figaro. Ben. Magnifico. Hey, Kathy.

I'm just a poor boy. Nobody loves me. He's just a poor boy. You from Tony?

No, he's got this fucking kickass castle. Delt maybe poor. Enigma, are you a poor boy? Nobody loves you?

All right, Mel has tits, so everyone loves her. Everyone loves her. Scottabouche. That's what I say.

Look at Scottabouche. Daddy! Is he taking a dump? Jesus Christ, it's show time.

You know what? We're starting. Bye! Thank you!

Are you guys going to start a show? Let's start a show, Scottabouche! The following show is for mature audiences only. Listen, her discretion is advised.

And if you don't like it, please go fuck yourself. One, two, three, four! Do you feel your sex life is quite lame? I'm going to get the job.

The desires might be strange. Come and join the Kinky Wells of Play. I'm going to get the job. Hello and welcome to the perverted podcast.

The show where we explore the adventures of the Kinky lifestyle set. Scottabouche! I'm recording live from Tony's fucking castle. In front of our perverted studio audience.

They're both sitting on the little castle. That couch is so thrown, obviously. It's like a little kid throat. Hello, Perverts.

Hi! I'm Kathy. I'm Count Boogie. I'm Dell.

Dell, and then we have Tony, and fucking a Nickman on the couch and Mel in the hand job. Hey, do you see how she's leaning over? Yeah. Can you please put the blanket over if you're going to start stroking Tony?

By the way, remember Garbage Can Mill? Yes. She heard last week, so she thought, ah, I'm disappointed that there's another Mel. I didn't get that voice.

She was like, I don't know if I'm ready. I'm a professional from like existential gender like wait, I'm not there. Who is this? What is this?

There is only one Garbage Can Mel. That's true. What's your other Mel? I don't think she likes that.

Well, do you like humiliation? Humiliation, degradation, that kind of stuff? Are you into that? Okay, good.

Your other Mel insignificant. Oh, they're getting on the floor. Is that what we did last week? Really?

Wasn't that butt-plug humiliating enough? I don't think they were humiliated at all. She was when she listened to the podcast. Oh, wait a minute.

Wow, she's embarrassed now. Tony, Tony, Tony, get the microphone. It was there's some sort of, so she just didn't know. I don't know.

It's this weird disconnect because I pointed out to her that there were eight people in her room watching her with a butt, a hook up her ass, and she didn't feel self-conscious at all. But the minute she heard the recording of it, she was under the covers turning V. Right. Yes, the evidence makes it much worse.

That's very true, Del. I just thought the microphones were for show. I don't get it. They're just...

I don't know anyone was actually going to listen to this. This is a rehearsal, right? I'm just standing asshole check. What did you say, 2500 or so?

25 to 27 plays. I just totally covered her plays a week trying to get up there and just remember pumpkin. This is going to be in perpetuity. This show is going to stay up.

The second perverted podcast, we start getting that snowball. You don't want to talk about it. When we hit that snowball and then all of a sudden there's 10, 20,000 listeners, it's going to be perpetual. I mean, people for years to come are going to hear you come.

Serious ex... F.M. and all that stuff. Serious ex...

That'd be amazing. I thought about that, Kathy. Like a serious ex-M. Because you're like, oh, that would be probably the closest format that we could do.

But you know they would come in and be like, yeah, Trana Tanks, out, rapists, out, anal hooks are out. Even that. You just want to be free without being canceled by the man. Just don't want to be held down.

If we want to put hooks, you and I talked very long and hard. We even got in a debate about the rope. Because we should have used jute because jute doesn't stretch as much. So she was noticing me, are you noticing now that you weren't able to get...

She's like, I was pulling as far back as I could. And it was stretching. And it was just because it's cotton rope. So now we're like, hey, okay, experiment.

We should do this with jute because jute's less forgiving. I got jute. Yeah, we got gobs and jute. And then we got into debate because I was like, hey, you know, the anal hooks for our kids that are just checking in for the first time.

Two girls, opposite sides of the room, each having an anal hook inserted anally and a rope tying them together. They pull on the rope like an anal tug of war and then they masturbate it. And both of them, you came? Yeah, both came.

Which is, I can't even conceptualize how that even works. A vibrator helps. Well, I... You do anything to a girl and give her a vibrator and the odds are pretty good.

She's going to come. I don't know, in front of people. I mean, I really... You know, we've had girls crawl into the table and start whatever and I got nothing.

You know, it's just like, well, you can... It's technically a double blow job, but it's not like I got a big hard on. I can't... I can't...

Object permanence, if they can't see us, we're not there. Obviously. I have no idea what that meant. Can you explain this?

This is what happens when you let smart people into the room. How many times have I told you? You know what you said? No.

Okay, wait a minute. We're going to both turn him at the same time and see if he will explain it in human terms. You ready? One, two, three.

Dell? So, you know, when you hold up a blanket in front of a child and they forget you exist? Wow, let's not have that example on this show. This just instantly sounded wrong.

Well, that's what object permanence is. At a certain age, you realize that objects exist when you don't see them anymore. Ah, yes. It's like when a dog sticks its head under the bed thinking if he doesn't see you, then you don't see him.

Like peekaboo? Even more, it's don't exist. It's out of sight out of mind. It's like there's a joke about the dog when it sees you when you come up.

I know that guy. I know that guy. That's like the dog thing. This is totally over my head stuff.

I don't even know which mic that is, but it's not loud. You guys have to make sure to talk directly into the mic. Kathy? Yeah.

You said something at the beginning of the show before I wish the recording would have been on because our preferred podcast listeners would have been baffled as I was baffled when I said, and they deserved to hear this. I just very sad that they didn't because I asked you, Kathy, how are you doing? You said, I'm actually pretty good. You had this look on your face like, I'm going to be a Wilderman.

Why wasn't I recording? I said though, as bewildered as I am when I'm in a bad mood. I don't know when the good mood or the bad moods come. I just take them.

So you're actually feeling okay today? Your chemistry is pretty good. There was no special masturbation. Nothing.

Just woke up and you're like, yeah, that's fine. I'm okay today. You're feeling or it's nice to feel okay? I literally don't understand your question.

Can you clarify? Okay. Wait, wait, wait. You guys are going to look at me like Dell?

Sometimes it's on the stupid. No. When you have a lot of depression and all the mania that we have, there's highs and lows and whatever, and you're really happy and you get all that kind of endorphins and you're rushing. You're like, oh my God, I'm walking on sunshine.

And then when you're sad, you're like, I'm going to kill my soul. I have a dream. So, but then there's that feeling where you don't really feel any higher low, but you're like, it is so relieving to just be okay. Just be like, I'm okay.

You're going to walk this. Yeah, yeah. It's nice when I come. It's like I said, bewildering because I don't know why I know last week was very stressful and I had a really relaxing weekend, but today I don't know.

I've been on a diet for almost two weeks. And when you lose even five pounds is a tremendous. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

And not eating as much means I don't know why this happens, but I need less sleep. That makes sense because you know, I don't know why it just happens. And so I've I haven't been getting up all groggy and with not enough sleep and I'm feeling physically okay. You know, my uterus isn't acting up and going cramps, cramps, bitch deal with it.

Which by the way, our listeners are perverted podcast listeners are being very supportive of your uterus. Unlike any support I have ever seen for uterus across media. Our listeners are very in tune with Kathy's uterus. And and I think that's amazing.

I am very amazed too. I didn't think anyone cared about my uterus. You don't see anyone fucking sending letters to the view going. Are you going with me?

Who'll be? How's your uterus? No, no, maybe they do. They just don't read it on the air, but like we do.

We're like, we can't go. That's why we got to be who we can be right here on SoundCloud. Yes, please don't kick us out. I don't know where.

What is a mini live lab? You send me this picture that is so I can't figure even out how you've been able to. So joyful the picture I sent. I will post it on our Fed Life page on the perverted podcast.

Fed Life page. It is in fact the first taste of independence that I've had in three months because now I've been in the car for three months. And so I go to muse and we can play a little bit, you know, her mom's out of town for a while doing family stuff. And so we, you know, we can stay at the boat and I stay at like a couple days a week.

I feel uncomfortable being there too much. And then we can do stuff and, you know, we can have a partner come over and do that. And then other than that, it's the ravioli. True.

And we can play in the ravioli. Those are two options. And that's it. So it's like, dude, the love lab was such an amazing part of my life, you know, because I had this big room and there was a bed and all the toys were there and we could just experiment and partners could come in and we could just try so many different things.

And it was just, it was a literal laboratory. And I was super, super attached to that because it was probably the greatest accomplishment of my life to have that place, to have that place where people could explore themselves and we've had just amazing amounts of sexy fun. So not having that is very sad. So I've been working on storage, which is like 10 by 14, has everything that was in the big love lab, minus all the stuff I got rid of.

And I tried to make a space so I could work and do jingles. And I said that I created a you straight to the ceiling. I was not that big on Tetris the game, but I live Tetris the life. So I'm very good at stacking.

So I have shelves all the way in a you. So there is a section. The walls, line the walls straight to the ceiling. Everything is even whatever weight disbursement.

So for shaking possible, smaller, a big earthquake fucked, completely start over, unload, do it again. But for small stuff, I stack pretty good the light stuff at top of the wood. So I got the use so I could start recording and you've heard jingles and stuff and I have one later. But I'm like, wow, if I could get a little bit better at stacking and getting rid of stuff.

So I got rid of a couple more boxes of stuff and I was able to make enough space to open the massage table and still have about 18 inches. I saw that. I literally thought when you say the picture, how the fuck is it? You're going to even walk around there.

You just like no room. Well, if for massage, for massage because I sent I sent because now I can do creepy storage massage, which you hear so many horror stories about like fake doctors practicing medicine out of their storage unit and calling it an office and and there's all this creepy stuff. So now you can literally get creepy women's massage in a storage unit like just the same thing. This is so scary and sketchy.

Yeah, I'm attached to my organs. Yes. So like yeah, so but when you massage, I only really need as much further width of my legs because I'm leaning into the client on the table. So I'm not standing sideways to where I have to walk sideways around.

I can well, I can go, you know what I mean? Yeah. So I can just turn and then I can work. So I can actually probably pull off a massage in storage.

It's very tight. Well, I'm very happy for you. But if I push it against the one wall, you saw it in the middle. Yes.

But if I push it against the wall, I got 18 inches. I can stand and I can grab legs and I can fuck and yesterday new partner whiskers who will hopefully be coming on the show soon. But yeah, I'm sorry. With all due respect, I'm going to try and say this as I can.

You don't have any respect. Who are you of all people convincing women to show up to your storage shed in order to fuck in a tiny little space? How is that happening? Kathy, I'm terrifyingly arousing.

I'm terrified. Terrefiling is the proper word. Kathy, there is something and I try to explain this to you. When we had a lot of talk, we'll talk about the half a P P in the car and stuff like that.

But no, I create a mental environment that when somebody says I have some things I want to experiment with and Tony understands this, Del, understands this. When you create that environment for someone, they're concerned about the head space. The actual space, because there are so many, and you know this, there are so many shitty partners out there that if you get someone that you can actually feel a certain sense of trust for and that they actually have a plan and can assert some level of dominance, then they're like, you know what, I'll just go with the role play. She had a really good time.

We played with her on the boat just a little. She's been in the community. She's very familiar with the community. I'm not going to talk too much about it.

If she wants to come on and talk about it, she can talk. But she said I could talk about the placing. It was amazing to just have her come in because I had the Violet One and I had some things and whatever. But what was awkward about it is usually it's in this aisle where you drive down the middle and then the storages are outside.

So they're right next to each other. So usually maybe the guy, the old guy that plays guitar really loud, which I was great. It'll cover the spanking. So, and then the lady tube doors front, that's kind of wacky.

They're all very victim to me. I could talk for hours just about why they're there and we all know why we're all there. Bad life choices. But I pull up and there's literally a guy blocking my door to get into the other side and he's pulling out all these boxes.

And so I had whiskers. I'm like lay down because I don't have seats in the ravioli and I'm like lay down. I'm going to smuggle you in. They're not going to know and then I'm going to open the door and shove you in the door.

We're going to close the door, turn on the music as loud as we can and then get to work. And this guy literally is standing like five feet away from my door. And so but his back is turned to his storage unit. So I open the door and he's like, hey, man, you want to buy some Timberlands?

He's like, fuck it like a shoes or whatever. And I'm like, no, bra, I'm cool. And then I wait till he turns around. And then I'm like, go, go.

And I shove her in the door, shove the door down halfway. And he's just out there. And then we're in the storage pillows, turn on the lights. The lengths you will go through to have a girl in your storage shed.

We did about two, three hours. And it all worked out. I mean, I like to hang something for the legs, you know, because the legs get a little tired because you're on a table, you got to hold legs up. And then when they have to hold their legs up too much, you know, obviously, you know, that gets very uncomfortable.

The logistics of storage room. So now I got to put an eyebolt because there's beams right above. So I could put an eyebolt that could probably hold 150 pounds or whatever. And, you know, and just prop up their legs, get a spreader bar and do that.

And other than that, it worked amazing. Nice. It worked amazing lots of fun by the wand. It was, it was, I felt independent, like even though I had to sneaker in and yeah, it was cool.

It was good. It was good. And I hear that Dell has some good news too. Dell?

My shiny letter pants have returned. How did it happen? I'll tell you how it happened, Kathy. Oh, God.

Let him speak. Tell told the story on the show and the world kicked some ass. Is that how it happened? Well, kick-ass the fucking the perverted podcast sleuths went out and did some detective stuff and went and track.

Is that not that that's what happened, right? Well, they popped up in the towel laundry room. What was it on Friday? So it's like, Oh, cool.

Great. So we'll get them back. So they reappeared. That was also after I bought a replacement pair.

So that heard it. But now I got two pairs of them. So somebody that I better put these goddamn things. Yeah, because they weren't in the towel room.

Exactly what they looked like. It was like only the pants, not the boxers moved to the towel room. Leather pants that you don't wash. Of course.

Yeah, they all yeah. Oh, they see. Yeah, yeah, of course, somebody stole them and then they're like, Hey, you had like five or six people that lived there. Look for them before I left.

So it's like, I'm pretty sure they look there. So can I remember? I'll take them back. Yeah.

Yeah. No, no. So one of the people that lived there quite possibly was lying because a lot of people, a lot of roommates, and I don't know these people. Maybe they're all very, very honest, but don't.

It's not beyond the realm of possibility that people steal your because I hear that in a all the time thing. I helped you like 30 maybe for sure. And I only know like a third of those. So it's like, Hey, look, they have the nerdy crowd and the like the party crowd.

I know and trust one of those groups. Probably. Yeah. But don't just say it just to be suspicious.

Just, you know, there are people that actually did the ceiling and then they help you look for it to throw the scent off. I got people in the room that know, know the story. Just want for nobody. Kathy, when it comes to leather pants, you trust nobody.

Nobody. You put a fucking cojack. Low Jack. What do you put?

Put a totally some of us. But tell you some of you, baby. You put cojack on those fucking leather pants. It helps you not find it at all, but it comes with a six pack of those tootsie pops.

That's it. Well, they do have eight pairs of pockets. I could put in one of those like Bluetooth trackers. Oh, that would be amazing.

That would be amazing. Because you've seen them. They have eight pockets. They're all real pockets.

It could fit my entire hand in all of them. How much of the Bluetooth, how much of those little like 20 or 30 bucks and how much do the pants cost 500? Now, we're saying the 20 bucks. What's the word that you think or just keep them wrapped around your neck when you do play stuff.

What? Just wrap it around like a scarf. What? Around the way is like the dorky kid with the sweater.

Five hundred fucking dollars for pants. Those things are not going anywhere away from me. Taking them everywhere. I'm going to bring my own fucking mannequin to put them on.

Excuse me, baby. I'm going to take off the leather pants. I'm going to put them on Gina. It's my mannequin's name, by the way, Gina, Gina, the mannequin.

Can we move on? Pulls my leather pants. No, boogie. No, no.

Say look, Rachel, Vadge goes in rocks, put a needle in your con, con, fad life. You do not have a mannequin. I would if I had $500 pants. By mannequin just for the pants.

Carry on. You're on the 20 bucks. Yeah. It's that.

All right. We should have a mannequin in here and then put a dildo on it and let girls fuck the mannequin. OK. I volunteer.

No, you just let it go. No, one of the girls. Tony just got up. Oh, my God, he has one.

I'll bet you anything he has. He's got a smile on his face. He's going deeper into the bowels of his house. I am so afraid that something very dust covered is coming.

I don't want to know. I don't want to know. It's very sad that I'm getting up now. They're just cuddling the bunny.

I brought she is the one that looks really horrified. So I think she might even know what's going on. Oh, I'm bad. He just dropped in the middle of the room.

It's a rag doll dummy from like video game shooters. It's a rag doll dummy. So it's not a gel dummy. No, no, no, no.

I really I'm afraid to ask what you use this for. When I was first learning my rope, it has real hands. So I can tie an arms that move. Yeah.

That's what you do. Realistic time. You buy a dummy. That's what I put that excited by.

Ever seen is lying in the middle. There's not a hole in it. I was I was surprised that he threw it out in the middle room and there was no stained hole in the middle. I you know that's typical of you.

It's kind of androgynous. That's the first thing you think of. You have to put a wig on it. Mel's looking at Mel seems embarrassed.

But you know, I think there's a part of her that's like, if you put something on it, I'd call it daddy. No, no, shall I move on? OK, this is a post by daddy's Hellcat called you trip along the way while you learn. And she says, daddy accidentally violated my consent.

We attended an event last night, a cops and convicts night where you were brought before the judge and punished for cutesy little crimes. That's like fun. It was a great time and it was well executed. But daddy was the one to take out my punishment.

And he had options to choose from. One of those options was cany. Now we've played with many things, but a cane hasn't been one of them. And I've been open to it, but I wanted to work up to it by seeing privately before we messed around in public at an event.

I was publicly cained in front of a room with people before I could discuss it with him and I did not handle it well. I'll admit the brat came out in me hard. I was so pissed I mouthed off and publicly humiliated daddy in front of the group of people. I'm not proud of it.

And after it came out, I instantly regretted it. But we went upstairs afterwards and he could see I was upset and angry with him. We talked. He apologized.

He knew he had fucked up. He assumed since I was open to the idea of cany it would be OK, but he didn't truly think it through. I apologize too for acting out and we moved on with our night and still had a great time. Why did I write this to show that even though daddy and I have a wonderfully open communication, shit still goes wrong.

And it's OK, as long as the lines of communication stay open and we can voice issues and correct them so it doesn't happen again. It makes me grateful to have such an open relationship with him. He's still human. We make mistakes, but we can't dwell on them as we're growing.

What a delightful story. It was a difficult thing. A problem. Would you like me to make you some tea?

Thank you. You had a group of Paul's but of course and I had a dick hole in it. Yeah, I was I must have made with great people. What?

Wouldn't that sting? Yeah, it is made with wine. I can't have great people. I mean, I guess you can't.

You know, it's sad. It's got wine in it and I just creeps me out. But I remember loving the great. It is a good mustard.

All those times I stuck my dick in it is 12. OK, that's it. Move on. You wouldn't even notice when you finished what?

Why are you just this look? I have no words that's like you don't know. Putting that on my anti bucket list. Come mustard.

Come mustard. Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, I bucket list. This I this is a what a great fantastic post fantastic post that all of a sudden I'm like, yeah, I got a tread lightly.

Why? Because I think this is what I've heard you say is you fuck up and just that is absolutely correct. But when it starts with my daddy violated my consent, I think the end I'll start from the end and maybe work backwards in the end. This is a couple that has been together and you know that these are people that have your best interest 99% of the time.

So a fuck up that that deals with you didn't ask my permission before this or whatever. That is normal in those types of relationships. And if everyone communicates through it, like in this case where, hey, I fucked up, hey, I fucked up. You know, apologies were made efforts to write.

Right. Right. Right. If I rectify rectum, I don't even know.

I'm like, to rectify the situation and then they were able to move on and have a great time. It's an amazing story. And I'm like, when is this where because now we're dealing with because so many people respond to this differently. And I don't want to disrespect the people who would have made this a bigger deal because that would have hurt them more or whatever.

But you understand what I'm saying? No. That it. Okay.

Let me let me try to claim. There's a lot of explaining. You're not happy with the fact that you violated the trust. No, no, no, no, no.

There's no, there's no, their situation is completely. They handled it. This was the way to handle it because it is true when you are in a relationship and you are exploring with your intense emotions and hormones and desires. You're going to fuck up.

We've said it on the show a million times. You cannot do a lifestyle like this that has sadomasochism and roleplays and head spaces and oh, I like rape fantasy and I like this. There is no way you are going to do these things perfectly every time and not cross some boundaries or have some things where you assume something or in the heat of moment you said this or she said this or whatever. You are going to have these fuck ups and this is the way you deal with them.

You communicate through it and you deal with it. But when there's words like consent and things like that, I kind of like this situation worked out in a relationship where people were already established and together. It might have been a little more red flag and a little more serious if this was people that didn't know each other well and those types of things weren't discussed in advance and people just took liberties and did certain types of play with you. Does that make sense?

I does. There are way too many variables to figure out. There are the two distinct differences as you say couples who either don't know each other or know each other very little because they've just met versus couples in a long term committed relationship. Completely different things and the post is just the post is just talking about why you're going to fuck up and you're just going to have to figure it out.

On the other hand, if you are somebody who is seeing a pattern in your partner where this is happening too consistently to be something that can be glossed over or explained away, that's something of concern. But that's not what's happening here. No. We're talking about isolated instances in which things go wrong.

You're in a play party and the theme of the party is you're supposed to be acting out these things. And sometimes when you get in front of a group of people and you're supposed to play a role, you kind of forget that you've got someone with you who you have a private relationship with and you had these boundaries and your brain starts to think, well, maybe it's okay because as she said, we had discussed caning. I mean, it's a tricky area and this is these are the things that you don't see coming because you've discussed it and you finally you suddenly find yourself in a weird situation where you're performing for a crowd. You got that performance thing and it's real.

And it's when those things happen that you don't expect that you're not anticipating that that you find out what kind of relationship you really have. Absolutely. You go upstairs. You go upstairs.

They discuss it. Each one confesses to their culpability in this. They both apologize to each other and they move on. Probably one of the best ways I've seen examples, I've seen a really good communication.

Yeah, I absolutely agree. So how can we now to the person who doesn't have a great relationship where they can deal with it like this? What are things that you would do to avoid those types of things? I have a big performance anxiety, not anxiety.

I'm a big performance whore. I'm so excited about performing. I love to perform. But that heat of the moment that you can get kind of swept up in because you have the approval of others.

You have now, there is an aspect of public play where you have now left the intimacy of your one on one and you are now performing. The rest of the room is now involved in your play scene. And I know God damn well, no Tony knows what I'm talking about because he's a big performance player where he does things and he has big plans and he sets out and, and, and there's a lot of fun and there is an element that that that includes the rest of the audience. And there is that fear that comes in when something challenges your performance that can make you, and I'm just speaking honestly, that can make you push boundaries to be like, can you just shut up and go through this?

I'm people are watching me. People are watching me do my thing because you just take the fucking cane because I'm being watched and I'm going to lose my brownie points. And suddenly you have more than just your partner to please. You have an audience to please.

And now you now that becomes a chance. Oh, what the fucking deal with it? Come on, they know me. Come on.

And that little voice in here that just wants that validation because, you know, we're not rock stars and so we don't go on big stages. I tried and be able to perform for thousands of people that tell us how great we are. So when you're in that performance mode, you're kind of like, Oh, Oh, this is it. That is something you have to prepare for.

If you are going to play in public and you are going to be an exhibitionist, you need to understand that there is going to be a very natural draw for most people to please the crowd. Yeah. And and you need to be very clear and and you and a lot of my other partners, they know I'm a performer when we are performing when we're not performing. I don't give a fuck about anybody in the dungeon.

I'm having a place scene with my partner. I want to go into a small room. You want to go in the main room almost all the time because he's an exhibitionist. And there's nights where I'm like, look, I just want to play with you.

Can we just go into a room and that's fine. But there is something that pulls you and there have been times where I have pushed and been like, I probably should have had more discussion about that. Yeah. It's an interesting aspect of public play that most people don't under don't see coming.

So it's a good thing to know, especially if you're going out to you're not if you're not someone who doesn't just seem privately and there's people and this. These are the things that like you said before, there are public players who are 100% about the performance and they don't give a fuck about the bottom. And we've all seen seen those uber doms and it's not just gender specific. They're men and women that are big performance for us and they tend to not care and they believe they're bottom.

You know, and you hear reports. Well, I didn't really agree to this, but you know, they're super, you know, fancy in the community. So they do this and those are things to watch out for too. And when you negotiate with someone and you're going to play publicly and it's going to be a type of scene where you're going to play in front of other people.

As the bottom, it's very good for you to advocate for yourself and go, Hey, I understand it's going to be performance and we're going to be exhibitionists. But don't forget about me. Don't lose me. Don't don't, you know, if you're going to objectify me, let's talk about that now.

And that's because I've done that with bunny, plenty of times with like boot worship or making a lot of the things. And we talked about those things because part of the humiliation was the fact that it was in front of everybody, you know, but I still had to not lose her. So Anthony's one of your fellow performers, eh? Yeah.

This is a wrap to you. You know, I've been thinking about it while you've been talking and I guess to an extent I've been kind of lucky in that sense. And it's funny. You talked about me wanting to be in the main room just because she's such an exhibition.

I kind of have a 50 50. There are certainly times I like it, but I also just like the main room because there's no time limits. I have a very hard time confining a scene to the hour usually. Right.

Yeah. But part of it too is I do it a lot and I'm always on the fence about it because you don't want to ruin the headspace for who you're playing with. But I tell me if I'm wrong, Mel, but I think I do a lot with you so far. I was like, is this okay?

Can we do that? You know, I'll whisper it in the air and check in a lot. You know, I know I do too much of it because then you pull them out of the headspace, but I also don't want to have a mishap. Yeah.

And you also don't want to negotiate with somebody if I don't know if Mel gets, do you get subspacey? Have we even talked if she can talk on the show? Do you not want to talk on the show? Okay, just put the microphone up to her face.

Shove her head in there. Because you're the you're. And now you lost the participation Tony. Nice fucking work.

No, just talk directly into the microphone. Okay, let's just see that little, little, little lunch. Shall we? So sometimes I do get subspacey, but even then it's still matter of like, I'm still okay enough.

I can check in if I need to and I can say if it is going to be like too much or anything like that. But it's also kind of nice because when you do have those check ins, especially when mishaps happen, like spilling coffee all over the dungeon floor. Pay that. It's a great time to also like check in when things like that happen.

So you know that everything's going okay. And that's not on fire and like that. Very good. Very good.

Thank you very much. So. So we cured this? No, stop saying that we don't care things.

We make things worse. That's what we are. That's who we are. We make it worse.

Bell is anything going on in the channel. We are attempting the name Ronnylins gentelea. There are some contenders for the name. Okay, this is this is the stuff I love.

Good work. Now, I just did not know. Name and genitalia is big stuff for murder podcast. All right, what are some of the contenders?

So the contenders were little one one one chaos pixie, whittle Ronnylin Terminator, whittle, gog smasher and wonder weasel. Oh, thank you. I am pretty good Terminator 2. Just because it raises a question instantly, what the fuck was Terminator 1?

What is this? You mean they want to see it? Yeah, okay. I get for curiosity purposes.

Obviously it's the anus. So yes, very good. That's pretty good. That's Terminator 2.

I get number 2 because it comes out of the butt. No, no. You look like a little kid just that I get it right. Did I?

Is that number one over two? They have toilets now, Kathy. Sorry, son, it's third grade for you again. They have toilets now that have like two drops or poo poo and one drop for peepee and you're supposed to save water.

OK, boogie. That's special. If you keep telling me I can't talk about poo and who you are talking about poo. I was just talking about toilet.

Oh, my God, your little is coming out. Yeah. Why not at all? Thank you so much to Daddy's Health Care for this.

It's a fucking dirty, a big dirty. That's, you know, I have to adopt. No one believes you. I put things in butts.

You're obsessed with the butts. OK, baby reports. What was that for sitting under people in her school photo? Oh, oh, that's you.

That's all you. You're supposed to look at it. OK, you are. Why I print it out.

You don't look at it. I don't print it out. You complain. I went in order.

I think that's all I that's all I. Oh, Jesus, but her Christ. You want mine? I went in the order you said that was always.

I'm like, don't click the wrong one because you said these were important. No, I just wanted that order because I want my way. Maybe bitch. Jesus Christ.

OK, so here's one thing. And this was a discussion and did we talk about OK, don't think for half of people will talk about that. But in a discussion, we will have that we will now continue later in this segment. That will talk about that.

I was looking for more inspiration because to my perverted podcast listeners, to our family, to the people that I am so dare I say intimately interwoven, the people that know more about me than I know about myself, the listeners that we are just literally a part of for four years that we I have shared. And we'll talk about it in a minute that I have shared damn near every intimate, horrifying detail of my life with. I don't know what you fucking look like. I have an intimate relationship with you and you have an even more intimate relationship with me because you hear what I it's like the one side, you know, I know you're there.

And I see the emails, you know, that we come in and you write us amazing things and you interact with the show and you say, this is who we are. And thank you for helping us in this situation and that and this was fun. But I don't see you and I'm an incredibly visual person. And it can be very, very frustrating that sometimes after even after four years, even though you get the letters, you're like, are we talking to anybody?

Are these numbers real? Right. So what are you saying? So understand.

So I got to I had to fix it and I said, P P school photo. OK. No, I'm standing in photos of themselves. Why not?

Why would you send a photo? Here's what I want. Here's what I want. Help me out because when I make it because I'm making storage and it doesn't have to be a thousand.

OK, this is going to turn into another like map of the world. No, no, it's not. Do you know what panties? OK, OK, because I thought, OK, good.

Very good. They're pink. Do you see how he just did you see how he just pimped a flash just by acting like I didn't know whether she had panties or not in she flashed. No, it's game, by the way.

No, it's no. So what I want to help me identify, like when I'm sitting in storage today, making a jingle and it's 90 degrees for some fucking reason in November and I'm sweating it out and I can't, you know, get focused. What if I had like a little page and I could like put some pictures of some of our let's just face. I don't want like tits and incriminating things, but like those that are kind of out.

Can you send just a small picture of your face and then I can make like a little collage. Let me see if I have a straight. Yeah. You want our listeners to send just a picture of their face having faith in you that the picture is just for you and won't be posted anywhere.

Well, if it's just your face, I mean, okay, yeah. Wow, wait a raise it out there, Kathy. Yeah, I certainly wouldn't do it. So I posted your picture on Facebook of your face.

No, no, totally understand that. Yes, I could put it on FET life and say these are all the mouths I fucked. You know, sure, I could do that. But if you are out, we have out of our listeners, there's a lot of them that work in the community or whatever, or they don't think I'm, you know, whatever.

And so that's why I'm not don't send me pictures of your body or whatever. But I want, I know it sounds crazy. No, actually it makes sense. What if there are listeners out there who don't mind sending a picture?

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