245 - Rediscipling the White Church with Pastor David Swanson

If you’ve ever wondered about the term and concept of whiteness, if you’ve ever wondered how there can be such differences between white Christians and Black Christians, if you’ve ever wondered about how reconciliation and justice play a role in spiritual maturity, this conversation is for you. Pastor David Swanson joins Latasha Morrison to talk through the biblical exegesis and cultural exegesis of racial righteousness and discipleship. Their deep discussion is covered in the beauty and necessity of truth, of hospitality, of perseverance. This episode will leave you with a better understanding of how we got to where we are in the American church context and with hope for the days to come. Host & Executive Producer - Latasha Morrison Senior Producer - Lauren C. Brown Producer, Editor, & Music - Travon Potts Transcriber - Sarah Connatser Quotes: “What would it look like for a majority white ministry or church to take seriously the call to discipling Christians, so that they stand more and more in solidarity with the whole body of Christ, so that our witness to Jesus could be that much more powerful?” -David Swanson “This is profoundly spiritual work that we do. As much as we need other resources and tools, at the end of the day this is a work that only the Spirit of God can accomplish.” -David Swanson “If we're going to do this well in a healthy manner, we're going to have to directly and regularly confront whiteness. We will have to name it, we'll have to talk about what it looks like, we'll have to talk about how it manifests in very specific ways. But we'll have to do that in a way that doesn't just quote, unquote, educate white people, but actually is good news to the people of color in the room as well.” -David Swanson “When we see each other as God sees us, we wouldn't see our differences as something that sets us against one another, but something that brings us together and causes beauty that points back to God.” -Latasha Morrison Links:Ad for Charity Water: CharityWater.org/BridgePastor David Swanson: dwswanson.com/ twitter.com/davidswanson facebook.com/PastorDavidWSwanson/ instagram.com/david.w.swanson/ David Swanson’s Rediscipling the White Church: ivpress.com/rediscipling-the-white-churchNew Community Covenant Church: newcommunitycovenant.com/ Be the Bridge:  BeTheBridge.com   facebook.com/beabridgebuilder/   instagram.com/bethebridge/   twitter.com/BAbridgebuilder Latasha Morrison: latashamorrison.com/ facebook.com/LatashaMMorrison instagram.com/latashamorrison/