#2490 - RZA

The Joe Rogan experience. Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. So the guy that did your bar, Flying Giddletine, is the same guy that did the mothership.

Oh wow. Yeah Richard the same designer architect who did your bar. I have a Flying Giddletine t-shirt that I wear sometimes. I was trying to find it this morning.

I couldn't fucking find it. Well mine's yesterday. I went to the album with Jathaus and did a screening of the film and I said what would it be appropriate? Where am I standing out in the house?

Jathaus said him and the guy there he was like I thought he wanted to wear hairs but he stole a snack. I was scrambling this morning and looking for it. We got to see you some more. It's great to see you again man.

I got questions for you. I was thinking about this place in Woodland Hills. We've been out here for six years. You were there eight years ago I think.

I just remember you having the hyperbolic chamber. Was that what it was or was it the sensory deprivation tank? Oh the one of you floating. Yeah.

That because we had that at the studio. We didn't have a hyperbaric at the studio. So I do have a hyperbaric. Not here.

I have it at my house. That was always impressed at Jesse a consciousness on things that are unique. And as time goes on sometimes as we evolve whether we evolve physically mentally spiritually or economically sometimes we leave certain things behind. I wanted to show keep moving his cheek in the same direction.

That's my question to you. Well sometimes it gets caught up in momentum and you got to step back and just realign yourself. That's definitely a factor. Sometimes I'm too busy and I get too caught up in momentum of things and you kind of lose like why am I doing this?

What is the process? What is the reason for doing all this? Vacation always fixes that. Take a few days off.

You can go. Okay. We can do it. I feel the same.

To be honest I've been running around for like eight days straight and I like to make sure I exercise do my tachi or something or stretch my body. But I was like my wife last night like yo I haven't worked out since we've been moving. But I've been drinking every night. So today this morning before I came here I got up a little bit earlier and I went and stretched and got all that out.

And that's what makes me kind of my head. It was like I wonder as we grow and we become more and more involved and we get in whatever it is and like that's given us how we get in these blessings but how far do we get away from the blessings that kind of made us solid. I try not to get as far. I try to stay as close as possible to centering my body.

If I don't work out just a couple days in a row I start feeling weird. Just two days. Two days I start feeling like crack crack crack crack. You feel antsy?

I feel irritated? I don't think I'm thinking clear. I don't feel relaxed. I think on the same.

Maybe for me it's three and a half days. Which I mean nuts is like how many people out there that's their whole life? There's no exercise in their life. Like my God you're doing yourself such a disservice.

You're not, you're not, you're not, you're mind, not just your body but your mind needs that. You need to blow out some steam and run the machine and stretch it out and relax it afterwards and recenter yourself. If you don't do that you're going to be anxious. And so many people are dealing with like constant crippling anxiety all the time.

How many of those people don't exercise? Right. I think that in Shaolin philosophy we, you know that's Qi Gong right? And the Qi travels through your blood.

So you got to always continue to have the blood moving because the blood is the supply you have but the oxygen gets it in and oxidates it and it keeps it flowing. And when you do stretching or you do exercises or you build up your respiration it actually energizes the blood which energizes every body of body. It's trying to let Qi travel through every vessel and every meridian of your body. And it actually does enhance you and re-vigorate you.

100%. Yeah. Fires up your endorphins, fires up your endocrine system, everything just feels better. And it calms you down.

I feel like human beings are almost like batteries. Like you're storing energy all the time. But if you've got too much energy it's leaking out of the battery. And you're not purging some of it.

Your body has like human requirements for movement. And if you don't use those requirements, if you don't meet those requirements, you're just going to feel like shit. And I think that's a big part of what's wrong with society today. There's just way too many people that aren't doing that.

And they're just tense and they're tense, anxious, feeling and the mental health problems that come with that. It just spills over into everything else. Right. I got to agree with you.

And I know that people that, like my Sifu Xinga Ming who, he probably works out like six times a day because he has to train, he has individual clients. Right. Right. But I think Sifu was maybe ten years old to me.

Look ten years younger than me. Right. Of course. I mean, he's just constantly moving at she and exercising.

He still could kiss his toes in the 60s. Babies could do that. He still could kiss his toes like a baby. But he said something to me that I took just he too for myself.

I said, Sifu, why do you work out so much? He gave me two answers. One, it feels good. It makes me feel so good.

But then the other answer he gave me was that because in Shaolin, when you get up in the morning, you have to exercise, run up a mountain, run back down a mountain, do chores. Do chores and all that before you eat. And he said, you don't do that. You don't eat.

And so I was like, well, that sounds like something from the Bible, where it says that man should work to the sweat of his brow. And I took that philosophy. So I don't normally eat in the morning. I would normally get up, I mean, I drink coffee now.

I drink coffee now. So I've been drinking coffee about ten years, I think. But I will have some coffee, some water and bamalamor. I'll get into my exercise routine.

When I'm home. I think that's the best way to start a day. Yeah, I do the same. I don't eat rather before I work out.

Right. I was working out first. Right. And then the water is fresher.

The food tastes better. Yeah. You earned it too. Exactly.

It's just a good way to start the day too. You already did the hard part. The most difficult part of your day is done. And then everything else.

And also that difficult thing makes the mental difficulty of the rest of the day work smoother. You have a whole commercial, the army commercial. Which one? It was like, we do.

Oh yeah. Yeah. Especially like we do what six a.m. Most people do it all day.

It's like back when you first, you know, when I was young, I was like, I'm not going to fucking talk about it. But as a man, I'm like, you know what, let's wisdom. Get up in the morning, get to Chigo and have a beautiful day. You get to get up early where you force yourself to work.

You force yourself to rise. The comfort of your bed calls you. You go fuck you. You get up.

You get shit done. And you're like, I already won. I won today. I've got a victory.

I've got a victory over my inner bitch. You know, I got out there. I did something. I'll laugh and hope you say I told the bad fuck you.

Yeah. That's what you have to say. Yeah. You have to get up almost angry.

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Love the way. The depths of warmth and comfort. No, fuck you. Get up.

Get up. Get going. That's why I like to get in the cold first thing. It's cold plunge before I work out.

As the... Yeah. I can't do that. Now that is...

That's kind of extreme for me. I'm like, I'm fucking with the cold. You can use to it. I'm telling you.

You can use to it. It becomes like the normal thing. How long you stay in the minutes? Wow.

It sucks. But every time I do it, I almost don't do it. Every time I do it, I almost don't do this. I don't want to do this.

Fuck this. And I get in like, oh, we're doing it. We're doing it. And then I take my phone and I set...

I got a little kickstand on the back of my phone. So I put the timer on there and I look at it. And I'm like, oh, it's out of minute. So I'm like, all right, we're good.

We're past the minute. Yeah. The minute mark is the tough part. Once you're past the minute, it's pretty easy to get to three minutes.

You just relax. I only did one ice bath. And it was... They had bought this Tibetan llama to New York.

And it was me. I forgot the brother name. It was doing this TV show thing. And it was trying to find out...

They were scanning our brains and see what happened. If we got into cold bath before meditating, then meditated and then get back in. So with some science... I said, yeah, I'll do it.

I don't know why I agreed to it. But I did it. Right? I got into my fucking bra.

And when I got into it, I was like, this is not the shit. I'm like this. And the host, he got into. Now, I don't know if that was his first time or not.

But he was younger than me, skinnier than me. You know what I mean? And when I couldn't take it no more, around one minute and whatever. It was past the minute mark.

I got the fuck out, but he was still in there. And I was like, I can't add it. I'm like, I'm gonna fucking beat me. Hey, yo, I got back in.

Nice. You know what I mean? And I got some footage of that. I don't think I stayed in...

I think I really impressed myself because I'm super anti-cold. You know what I mean? I run hot. I stay hot.

I'm the hot part of the... My wife is cold. She has to put her hand on me. I'm the heater.

So cold is like something that I don't... Yeah, I don't like it. I don't enjoy it. But there's a little mind game that goes on.

And the mind game is almost immediately like, oh fuck this. Let's get out of here. Let's get out of here. You gotta ignore that and just concentrate on breathing.

So what I do is I breathe through a count of ten. So I do this one... Two... Three...

Four... And I just concentrate on the numbers and then by the time I get to ten, it's basically like a minute and I'm relaxed. And then I just settle in there. It's just you concentrate on breathing and don't think about that part of you that wants to get out.

Right. So I think I'm gonna try a cold shower. It's really good. Cold shower in New York is great if you, like, in the winter.

Because that's real cold. That's real cold. Like, I used to take cold showers involved. My friend Bob Caforella, he used to do this at our Taco Endo school.

He would take cold showers after training and I was like, that guy's a fucking animal. And I tried it a couple of times but I was a bitch. I did it like 15 seconds. I jumped out.

But he would just stay there in the cold freezing cold winter cold water and just wash himself. And I was like, this guy's an animal, man. I think my brother, Kong Lee, I haven't seen Kong Lee in years. Kong Lee the fighter?

Yeah. I remember we did a movie years ago in China but he was a cold plunge out of the crew. He's ahead of the curve on all that shit. It's just the mental thing is where it benefits you.

And not just while you're in it, like doing it because you don't want to do it. But when you get out, you feel so good. Your brain is just flooded with all these endorphins. He feels so good.

And it lasts for hours and hours. I'm going to revisit that. I think there's numbers on the dopamine increase. I forget what they are off the top of my head.

But there's a giant increase in dopamine that lasts like two to three hours after you're getting out of the cold plunge. Wow. I know that. I know you're a long time martial arts student.

And I think anybody that does martial arts for a long time realizes that it is as much for your mind as it is for anything else. It's not just a workout. It's a workout but it's also like there's something about going through the motions of martial arts and training in martial arts. It requires so much concentration and it requires so much of your focus that the rest of the world fades away.

And the impact of it is relaxed because of that. It's mental, physical and spiritual. It's emotional. It's will.

There's an esoteric thing. Seven planes of energies or five states of consciousness. I don't know if you ever came across these types of terms. But sometimes we get stuck on just the three dimensions.

You know what I mean? Just three planes. And you don't get to the emotional. You don't get to the will part of it.

You don't get to the realization. The control. If you could get to realization, then you can control what's going on because you realize what it is. It's almost like you can now have the foresight of what it is.

And then if you could get to that type of plane of energy, then the possibilities become infinite because you realize that you, like they say we all have a free will. But then you realize that the will can be controlled. You also realize that with a strong will, you can control others as well. Because some people are walking around with weak willes.

Let's try to start a call. Oh, my, by having a song as well. You can make it. I do have a film this shit, right?

I'm called Once Wounded Chocolate. And I watched half of it. I had a problem. There was a problem with the early screener.

I was mirroring it on my television and it kept breaking up. It kept fucking up where the sound would cut in and cut out. And I did it a couple of times. And then the screener ran out.

So then I had to contact your people and then they gave me another one. But then they gave me one on Vimeo. And I watched that in the gym today. So I watched the first half of the movie.

And I watched the second half of it. And I watched the first half of the movie. And I watched the first half of the movie. And I watched the second half of it.

Okay. Take your time. Take your time. It's a crazy one.

It's a fun watch. It's a lot of ways. But when you do it with Tarantino. It seems like it's got a kind of flavor to it.

But I was, I brought it up to say that there's a character who actually takes ice plunges. And because of that guy. Yeah, the villain. So he's talking about cults and things.

In a way, there's a scene where we introduce him. You could tell that everybody else there are bending to his will. He shows them how to do this. You do this and you do that.

And then there's the fucking, I guess the weak will guy. And he's like, and that's why Jimmy's the fucking king. I laughed at that. Exactly.

So that's the point I'm making is that so will can control. You know what I mean? Yeah. But if you realize yourself and have that self realization, self-actualization, you gain control over yourself.

You know what I mean? And control your plans and energy. So we talk about martial arts and martial arts help you achieve that goal. Yeah.

My instructor used to say that martial arts are a vehicle for developing your human potential. It's so difficult that in learning how to get, I don't like to turn mastery because I don't think you have really master martial arts, but in learning martial arts, the difficulty that's involved in it expands your potential in everything that you do. I agree. And for me, I actually, you know, always tell people on the physical level, I don't know if I'm good or not, to be honest.

You know, I mean, took up some hunger and shall and of course a little bit of Wing Chun here in there, but I don't claim to be like a martial fighter. But I will claim to be a martial artist because of the mind. Because the way I think, because the way it allowed me to think, you know, it's like, I have probably 20 books on Tai Chi and I win them. And so I understand it, the application of it, like there's a meditation called the eight pieces of brocade.

You ever come across that one? No. So it's the word brocade? Yeah, brocade meaning blockage.

Oh, okay. So it's eight ways to unblock yourself, like to unblock your chi. One of the first ones of course you sit and load this and you just take your thumbs and you bang on the back of your basically you're going to do a lot of glanta. I give you the touch this real quick if you don't mind.

Back it here. Yeah. I love that is. Yeah.

Right. So you cover your ears and you bang on those drums, those things in the morning and it exactly opens up some of your chakras. So. That feels weird.

Because it's loud. It's loud as it could be, right? Yeah. Point being made by studying all these different books, it's like the physical part, of course, is exciting.

But to me, the mental part is even became more exciting, the more that I can apply it. Therefore, I can apply it to my music, I can apply it to business, I can apply it to how to be a better father and all those things versus me just punching and trying to break a break. Right. Right.

Yeah. I mean, that's Tai Chi, right? It's all mental. The Tai Chi is a martial arts sorta.

I mean, I guess like you would learn how to move your body better. That could kind of help you apply it in a self-defense situation. But it's much more of a mental martial art. Yeah.

And I used to, when I lived in San Francisco, I used to watch people in the park. These old Chinese people would go out there and practice Tai Chi. I was like, what are they doing? I was a kid.

I was eight. I was dumb. I was like, what is the purpose of doing this all day? Right.

And then once you do it a few times, you're like, oh, this is not easy to do. Right. It cleans your mind of everything else that's going on. Because all you're concentrating on is these movements.

They're not stupid. Like they've been doing this for thousands of years. Because it helps them. What a crazy thing about Tai Chi.

Give you a little information about it that you may or may not know. But the idea with Tai Chi is that if you match the middle, you have that control over it. You should be able to move a thousand pounds with just four ounces of energy. So the idea of them pushing constantly means that something ever came to them, they put that aside what I'm thinking about it.

Right. Because just four ounces of energy can devote. It's almost like tripping the giant. I think it's great on paper.

Actual giant. I don't care how much Tai Chi know a dude is like a 300 pound all American wrestler. He comes charging out. You're not going to use four ounces of energy and divert him.

Well, I'm arguing that. The one else that you use is just step to the side. Yeah, everybody says that. It doesn't work.

It doesn't work. They grab you. You're not getting up. Then another.

Well, I mean, I'll fight as a fight. That's a difference between a martial and a fight. Well, it's also just the reality of physics. I mean, it's one thing if you're doing that to an unskilled person, but to a skilled person, really you need to know the skill that they're applying.

That's the difference between someone who's practicing something that is great in theory. It's not just in theory. Physically and mentally, it's great for you. It's not the right application in terms of actual hand-to-hand combat.

Yeah. I mean, a fight is a fight. I mean, in my opinion, a fight is a fight. I don't care if you're the best boxer in the world that not want to fuck this out.

One of our greatest fighters, my Tyson, who wasn't just that he was a fighter. He was a fighter. He mostly had a skill set and he was a well-trained. But in the peak of his fights, I don't care how much somebody else trained, when he got in the ring, the fight, there weren't better fighters.

They could have been better boxers, better athletes, better whatever. So I think a fight, this is my opinion. It's an instinct. It's a, you know, like what you, like when Mike Bidd is here, right?

That's a fight. That's another tool with boxing. I think that was frustration, you know, unfortunately. You know, that was a, a van der was beating him up.

Yeah. And I don't think you liked it. A van der was beating him up professionally, skillfully, and boxing. But then Mike went to fighting.

Yeah. And fighting, like an MMA, you can't fight an MMA. You can't fight an oat sport, right? Yeah.

You ain't supposed to hit the nuts, right? You ain't supposed to. I know, which is crazy. Because in a fight, the nuts are one of the best spots to hit.

Exactly. In the eyes. You need to post the polka eyes. My friend Eddie had an idea for a comedy sketch called Ultimate Sack Fighting, where it's just dudes, just, just the nuts are the only target.

Yeah. It's amazing how vulnerable we really are. Or balls just sitting on the outside like that. Yeah.

Fights, you poke in the eye. You poke in the eye in an MMA fight, the referee stops the time and you get a point deducted. But it's a very good technique in an actual fight. Yeah.

Well, that's what I meant by saying, like, so you go train and train and train, but when you are, when there's life against life or life or death, there's a whole other chamber of fighting for survival, you know what I mean? There's some horrible videos of no rules fights. Or they have these no rules fights in Russia and a bunch of other places. But they do them outside in a field.

And these guys fight and this wrestler gets this guy down and just shoves his thumbs and his eyeballs. He gets on top of them and he just grabs his face and shoves and the guy's just screaming and trying to move his head away and he taps and his blood all over his eyeballs. The party over. He realizes how devastating that is, like the pain and the, just the.

And you know, so crazy, the person who did it, like the, maybe the guy who got the chance to do it, it's not easy. And some of you agree with this, you could disagree, but it's not easy to do it either. I don't mean it's not easy that you can't do it. It's not easy for your spirit to do it.

Right. It's gonna be evil. Yeah. So, so that's a whole nother chamber.

It's like, yo, will you do it? Will you blind a man? Yeah. Will you do it, right?

And it's like maybe you won't. And, but if he will and you won't. Right. Yeah.

That's it. That's what I, that's what my seafood says that about here, cause you don't train nobody out of fights. I can't teach nobody out of fight. You know, I mean, I can teach you how to build your body, how to build your chi, how to build some strength, but a fight, bro.

It's different. It's no rules. It's life and death. It's like, and, and your will going back to the will, what we talked about, your willpower has better be strong to survive.

I love what Bruce Lee said. He practiced the art of not fighting. I mean, so I told that to my son, I was like, yo, bro, listen, if you go wrong, bro, right? Yeah.

I mean, be about it. If I can chase you, you know, you got to go to, you got to think on something. But if you go, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. I see you later, bro.

You know what I mean? I mean, I know there's too many people that get into fights for no reason and then you want to change in the rest of your life. You got a scar that's going to be with you forever, or you accidentally kill somebody. It's stupid.

It's a stupid thing to do. And there's so many men that feel like they just have to prove themselves, which is what a gym is for. Go to the gym. With other fighters, train, get beat up, realize where you're at.

Get a realistic sense of your actual ability and then improve a problem. Don't go getting in street fights, please God don't do it. For me, I put all my aggression and all my energy into my art. You think about some of my early songs, Wait a motherfucking fuckers, bro.

That was like I used to have a problem. I had like a problem of another anger management maybe, but I was just like I don't know. I needed to hear the sound of breaking glass. I used to scream.

I was like, yo, this is cool. Because I was, and I realized that I had so much anger in me that I couldn't really get it out. I was kind of hulking shit away, like Bruce Banner or some shit, right? But then through music, it started to come out, and it started to come out.

And by the time I got to Wu-Tang forever, a lot of my anger was in the song. If you want beef, then bring the rockers, and all that stage and all that energy. So it really helped me. And then I realized, going to bring up the date to my new film, I'm watching it.

And I'm just like, OK, once again, I took all the anger and I put it into the art. There's actually a character in the film name. His name is unique. Did you catch that when you saw the piece?

Unique is the name of O'Dirty Bastard. His original name was A-Sawn Unique. So that was my way of giving homage to him, by naming the lead character of my new film, Unique. And it says in the film, he says, you got a problem with anger management.

He says, yeah, I'm working on that. And what I love about the art of it is that the problem that he had with anger management was his reaction. Like a lot of us, we just react too much. We react before we think.

Because they say, man, could think seven times before he reacts. That's our first your mind. You can move, but we go in that frozen pulse. But this character, he holds the anger until one morning.

He's at a veteran home. And he's sitting there, and he's having breakfast, and he has this can. He's seen this thing, right? And he's like, he digs a spoon in there.

And it's like fucking, there's nothing in it's not even. Like one's going to chocolate in it, and he gets what? Angry. And he thinks, boom, who the fuck left one's going to chocolate in the can?

But then it took an old man that was settled to tell him, once more than chocolate changed the whole glass of milk. It changed the whole glass of milk. And then you notice that character, then he calmed down, he started reading into the kids. And that was kind of me taking some of my personality, some of the old old oldies' personalities, some of the personalities that I see in my community and putting it into this character, they say, yo, sometimes yo, calm down.

Listen to the wisdom of your elders, right? Have you ever in your life, I might ask you, have you ever come across some old person where there's a homeless guy, your uncle's somebody, that you kind of didn't look up to in old ways? It's kind of dangerous, but then they say something to you that's profound and changed your life? Oh man, I try to find an example.

I mean, I've definitely gotten a lot of advice from old timers, but definitely people, especially people that have done a lot of things. You know, people that have accomplished things and made mistakes and recovered from their mistakes. Yeah, I mean, that's actually because I was maybe 11. And it was like a dope fiend that was dating my aunt and he was at the table and shit.

And he was like nodding, but he was kind of in the chamber, bro, you know, kids looking at this guy and shit. And he said, something about like, you know, I don't care man, you gotta get knowledge man. And you gotta get knowledge man, God says, wait man, you gotta get knowledge. I started reading it since that day, bro.

Really? Obviously. The dope fiend inspired you to read. He said, because he said you gotta get, what happened was he had knowledge of self, I guess, back before the drugs hit him.

And now he's like dead. And he was like, he was, I said, you gotta get knowledge. The gods are right. The gods are right.

And so what was he on? What was the drug of choice? He was on fucking, he shot that shit up. Everyone.

Yeah. That's the old days back when they shoot it. Now everybody's on pills. Right.

I know, I don't know about that. I don't know about it either, but I mean, I don't know about it personally, but that's essentially what Oxycodone is. All those pain pills that you see, all these people dying. Yeah, opioids.

Yeah. Yeah. The number one problem. I mean, I think the deaths in America, it's upwards of 70,000 a year.

I know it's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. And the one thing that happens is the Sackler family.

The Sackler family, this one family that convinced people that taking these incredibly potent opioids, did you ever see that Netflix docu-series, Painkiller? I didn't see that one. It's really good. It's all about the Sackler family.

It's, Peter Berg made it. I made it. I made it, Peter. Peter Peter, he's great.

Lone Survivor, he made a bunch of excellent movies. He's great. He made this documentary on documenting how, well, it's not a documentary, a docu-trauma series, a recreation showing how this one family, they wanted to figure out a way where they could sell opioids to everyone. and the way they did it was like giving people pain management tools, giving people medication that you could be on forever.

And they made it and they pushed it through these different doctors and they had all these hot ladies who were representatives of the pharmaceutical drug companies that come to the doctor and they were the reps that come and sell it. Yeah, I mean really. And they all financially incentivized to sell it and they tried to pretend that it wasn't addictive and they lied about that. And they got who knows how many thousands and thousands and thousands of people ruin their lives because of it.

Like I said, 70,000 die every year just in America, just from opioids. That's crazy bro. And how many more would there be of that if it wasn't for Narcan? That's the counter, right?

Yeah, that's the stuff that the EMTs give you. They find you overdosing. They give you Narcan and it kills it and brings you back to life. And that one family, no one's got to jail.

No one's got to jail. I mean, I don't even know how much they've been fined. But if it wasn't for what they did, and again, well documented in that Netflix series, it's horrific, man. It's really terrifying because it's not just the people that died, the people that are addicted.

It's all the family members that were affected by them, all the children of those people and what happened with their lives, all the spouses and the brothers and sisters of those people that won't happen with their lives. That's crazy. When you were saying that my mind, the imagery in my head was that scene in the American gangster when it was Thanksgiving and they showed Frank Lucas at the table with this whole family that had a nice spread of food. And then the camera went and showed all the families that was hooked on the blue magic truck.

They had like Katie dying over here. The kid looking at her mother dead. So the difference, I guess, that's the image I came up with, I guess the difference is in the appetite in the case, somebody goes to jail and pays the price for the crime. And this particular case you're saying that nobody, nobody went to jail.

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They pimped it out and sold it to everybody legally. I mean, it's sick. They're the biggest drug dealers that have ever existed. Fuck all these street drug dealers.

I mean, these guys killed 70,000 people a year. Who knows how many years? It was probably more than that before they figured out Narcan. And part of it is also because people get addicted to it and then they get stuff from the cartel that has fentanyl in it.

And that's why they're dying. But there's a bunch of people that just died from straight up overdose of opioids too. It's terrifying. And it's over the counter?

Yeah. And yeah, no, it's not over the counter. You have to get prescribed. But doctors are happy to prescribe it for you.

I got my nose fixed. I had a deviated septum. And they cleaned it out. And I was leaving the doctor's office and he gave me two prescriptions for opioids.

And I said, but I'm not in pain. He goes, but you probably will be. And I go, but it's gonna be worse than this right now. Like we're just out of the operation.

And my nose was like, these things stuffed up your nose to keep your nostrils open. And I was like, are you sure it's gonna be worse than this? And he gave me two prescriptions. And I went home and I was like, I don't need these.

I didn't film. But I'm like, this is not, but this guy was giving me two different opioids to take. You would have been, you would have been back. I probably would have been hooked.

Yeah, you would have been back. I know a lot of people that got hooked, man. I'm under no illusion that I'm stronger than those people that I would have figured out a way to not get hooked. Right.

So many people that I know got hooked. So you're saying like, let me just go back on this because I actually don't take nothing from like, you know, I'm very, I mean, I do pump as my inhaler. Yeah. Yeah.

When I get it, because I had asked my whole life, other than that, I don't really take no time to know nothing, bro. Fuck all that stuff. But you're saying, oh, at the end of the day, just taking doing this back at you, the doctor basically gave you some free shit. Yeah.

The kind of have you as a customer. Because when crack came out, I think he's financially incentivized. I think they're financially incentivized to prescribe you this month because he didn't say if you're in pain, contact me and I'll fill you a prescription because it's just my nose. Right.

It's not that big a deal. Like I slept fine. It was nothing. That's crazy.

And I try to tell him, I'm like, I don't understand why you're giving me. Like we had a conversation. I go, is it going to be worse than it is right now? Like right now I'm not in any pain.

He goes, you could probably get worse. Like how much worse? Because right now I don't feel anything. It's like nothing.

It's like mildly uncomfortable because I have these tubes stuffed up my nose. Right. But this is not, this is require heroin. This is crazy.

I'm not laughing at you. I'm not laughing at you. I'm just kind of not just kind of financially incentivized. Let me go back to them film.

No, because in the film there's an article that I hear opens up in the paper. It's not the same subject, but it's a medical thing. And then it's just like this particular county is leading in this particular process because there's money in it. If it's money, sadly.

Yeah. I mean, that's a movie, but sadly if there's money involved, people can become insidious. People can become like, yeah, you could get strung out. You could get strung out.

I mean, I sold, I vote 20 prescriptions this week. And they're not cheap, right? How much of the prescription when you fill it? Is that like 40 bucks or honey bucks?

I don't know. It's not cheap. But more importantly, the doctor gets incentivized. I was reading about this doctor that was an oncologist.

So he's dealing with cancer patients. And he was giving chemotherapy to people that didn't have cancer because it would get him more money. You kind of fuck me up with that. Yeah.

And he kind of my emotion because I just lost my brother to cancer. My brother power. Yeah. I'm sorry to hear you take a moment.

I'm sorry. Yeah. It's one of the most profitable medications unfortunately for physicians. So not unfortunate.

Look, if it saves your life, that's wonderful. But the reality is this one doctor that I'm discussing, this one doctor decided that he was going to get paid more by just giving chemotherapy to people that didn't have cancer. So he diagnosed a bunch of people with cancer. They didn't have it.

So unfortunately, up cancer, the good news is we get you on chemotherapy right away. We think we can kick it. And he were regular people with nothing wrong with him. And this fucking guy gave him poison.

You know how much the chemo course? It's expensive. It's about 30 to 60 grand. Yeah, I'm not surprised.

And the doctor's profit off of that. It's one of the most profitable medications that doctors prescribe. That's kind of fun. Most doctors have never fucking imagined doing that in a million years.