#25 with Andy Bull - 'The prize for making music is you made music and you get to do it again', finding the essence of your art and accepting life is kind of pointless gives you freedom to truly be who you want to be

Welcome to episode 25 of The Ebbs and The Flows with musician and creative Andy Bull who is currently writing an album in sixty days. This is a long form podcast because I just really enjoyed every last minute of this conversation. I know it’s not popular as we talk ourselves out of ‘the rambling man screaming into the wind’ length of anything these days – but I just found myself in the fortunate situation of talking to one of my favourite artists in a really candid, authentic and warm discussion about the creative process, doing your homework so you can enjoy the sweeter parts of your vocation, looking at how many brilliant people you will encounter, rather than the asshole in the stands, Andy’s favourite song he has written and the song he wished he had written and a bit about family, his love for his late father and a waffling contest between two wafflers. A glorious chinwag and one for the ages. This is the Ebbs and The Flows: Lean in for soft chats about hard stuff. Check out Andy Bull's instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andy_bull/ For Andy's Weird Fishes, head to 1.15 into the pod. The Ebbs and the Flows is an emotional health movement focused on openness and transparency about the light and the shade of the lives we led and journeys we encounter. The Ebbs and the Flows is not a licensed mental health service and therefore if you are seeking mental health advice, assessment or treatment, you should seek expert advice with a GP, psychologist, psychiatrist or in a crisis, call Lifeline on 13 11 14. For those struggling, or who know somebody who is, help is available: @lifelineaustralia 13 11 14 @beyondblueofficial 1300 22 4636 1800-RESPECT (1800 737 732) @headspace_aus 1800 650 890 @kidshelplineau 1800 55 1800 For advice specific to Aboriginal and Torres Strait islander people @13yarn 13 92 76 For LGBTQIA+ specific advice @qlife_aus 1800 184 527 The Ebbs and The Flows website: www.theebbsandtheflows.com Substack: https://substack.com/@theebbsandtheflows For The Ebbs and The Flows Instagram page head to https://www.instagram.com/theebbsandtheflows/ At the end of the day, we are all just a work in progress.