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Good morning. Good afternoon, even listening to the AutoCAD podcast. Soundcheck. We're not at the land.
We're at Rick Shaw's Land. We're at Rick Shaw Rotary at the end. That's fine. I've got Doc on Scott's.
The lavender street. We don't have a lavender street on the level. We know that very well. So we've got Rick at Tom Shaw, he.
G'day, gentlemen. We've got Tommy's help and out. Security's he's at the door. Keep away people who can apply cars.
Anyway, are we gentlemen? of all the winners, we want to ask there's always a few questions about some of the drivers because Tommy's not all of them. I went to that as the dealership for the guy that won the series. Alexandria and Ersa?
Yeah, that's right. And I did give him that. I went to go check out that night. So, Céstéon works on?
He's a dealer principal of the Altean, in Sydney. Céstéon, those who didn't hear the last episode, he was the rookie of the year and also the ultimate winner of the Championship. And he had a clean up championship, but it was his first year in the Championship, so obviously he was rookie. He was the first race in the race.
No, he was the first in the experience race. He was done by the race in South Africa. Yep. A little bit of New Zealand, with the master race in the series there.
Okay. And then he's come over here and landed in Australia and he's done his first season with us. Don't will. Don't really will.
And he's not on the championship. No, really not. It's quite a few of the drivers the other night. I think he's up for Richter.
So, we had the rookie come second and then we had the over 50s come second. The rookie came first and the over 50s came second. So, we booked in the Golden Silver. That's quite.
We've got like, Robert's got, sorry. And he was the bloke. He was the after party if we could record that. So, he must have a couple of years under his film as well.
Robert, no. Robert's quite new to race. He did. He won the championship last year.
Okay. He won the last year 24. Was he a son in a, did he son race with him or in another car? No, no.
He's son race his own car. So, there's a father and son with a car reach. Did they ever race together in the go-to-go-go-go? Yeah, they did the back of six set.
Yeah. No, I mean, like on the track. I guess. That was a funder.
Yeah. Because they just thought a father was home. No, I can have them. Smashing everywhere.
I mean, they did drive together in the one car in the back of six hour last year. Yeah, but I can have a car for them. That's the call given days off London. Yeah, that's what I mean.
No, but that starts smashing along the beach. You don't see that. Yeah, I think for Riddance. No, no, no, no.
It's not a win Riddance, but not. There's a sub-car. Riddance is a tough fella. You know that, I know.
Riddance is the fastest color in the car. It's the fastest woman as well. Is that what you're trying to say? No, no.
I wouldn't have the mind of what he is. It's a racist. I'm not sure every woman in the same. Not sex, it's not racist.
I won't write sex, it's a good color. We're talking about color. You're color. Yeah, but you're like all colors.
All colors. By reds faster. Yes. It's easier to maneuver.
So tell me, what color would you buy? Red a tank, true. But you have water for our own. What color did you buy?
If I had yellow and white, true. Why did you buy yellow for our own? It was great. It was a three-five-five-five-eleck.
Mad. What would you buy? What color would you buy? White.
White for our own. You know white, he's thinking of what's... Yeah, you know what's... Yeah, you buy a Lamborghini.
Yellow. Yellow. Black. Black Lamborghini.
It's that orangey color they buy. Yeah, it's red, isn't it? Not red. All right, the other color.
Or purple. Or purple Lamborghini. I wouldn't buy a Lamborghini. No, I'd be forced.
Oh, yeah, I'd go. We got to take it somewhere else. I'd like to see the silver and the Lamborghini. Silver and the Lamborghini.
Silver and the Lamborghini color. If I had bought a Ferrabi in a fitting one, the first Ferrabi, it'd be the red of the ten tree. That's your first one. And after that, you move on.
Yeah. You move on. No, what happens like I've got a dentist of my little legs for ouris. Right and even when he buys them a different color, he just brought one a different color.
Right? Yeah. And when he wrapped it red. What?
Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck.
Yeah, so because he can't, you know, that's like a one or two, right? Because he can. Because he can. It's got about 12.
Why don't you reach? They ring him when something's coming out to buy it. Or they don't, when they have a, uh, uh, a function here, they ask where he is because he never goes. It is a club though.
You won't be part of it. If you don't buy it, you can't just tell up for our delicious sake. One of those please. So I remember the story of the guy going to the knocking on the door when he was on William Street and couldn't buy that good and serve him because he was dressed normal and all that.
He wasn't dressed that. Like yeah, this whole story was his brother-in-law went and brought a Ferrari, oh, mother-in-law before him. Right? And he liked it.
Taggent. They had a business near here. He's one of his, uh, sleeves customers. Right.
It's his father went there after the door. They're going to serve him. Wow. Walked away.
And then when he went back and told his brother-in-law, my bakers, I know you're going to have a good appointment. Went there just went, put it. Export. Give him with the shorts when he was at, uh, Dali Harbour, the, had a shorts and a car shop.
He was a yellow one. And he went with the shorts and they wouldn't give him attention. They wouldn't give him a nice, simple, nice brand new one. But we had the Ferrari mechanic on it.
It's just another car. You're a good one. It's just another thing. It's just another job.
It was a nice bike too. It was a nice bike too. It was a good one. I enjoyed that interview.
So let's go. Let's, let's wind back to RX eight car. So we had a great night. I think it was.
It was not was brilliant. So now we're 26. So we're starting a couple weeks time. Two weeks.
We've got a big green. We've got 24, 25 cars. Some new, new drivers in the series. So far, like Phillip Island, you can have all four seasons in a day down there.
Yeah. In the last four years in a row, we've had near perfect weather. So I reckon it could be the odds we're building up against us. We could have a wet Phillip Island, but I think not.
It's a really good weekend. We're socially, it's great. We have a couple of dinners. Yeah.
We do the Saturday night dinner and then on the Sunday, no one's got a driving next day. So the summer night dinner gets a little bit messy. Yeah. The red wine starts flying and all sort of stuff.
So Phillip Island, it's one of the tracks that you feel about. We do, uh, Wynton. We do Sydney. We do Wakefield.
We do Wakefield both directions. Okay. So that makes up like two different tracks. Yeah.
Pretty much. So that makes it interesting. So we do the RX-8, I mean it's a red re-engine. Uh, let's start with Phillip Island.
I mean it's a high-speed, high G-force cornering type track. The RX-8 we do it right there. I mean there is a lot of stuff. It's a little bit around there because it's so well balanced.
Yeah. For the little parrots it actually does some pretty reasonable lap times. It's an awesome track. Actually, it always surprises everybody where it goes with its lap times.
On a higher-fifty if you had an equivalent other make-sub-production. What was it like a 36 series car? Okay. So we've got the car and then the Sydney we've got the Enduro.
So that's where the father and son teams come together and race together and everyone's going to find a co-driver. So it's our six hour home? No, no, no. It's only two 15 minute races with a compulsory pit stop in the middle.
The driver change. So we just did a bit of fun. Yeah. And we don't go more than 15 minutes otherwise we don't start looking at fueling the cars.
Okay, yeah. And we don't have drive brakes in the cars so fueling them to be a problem. There's always stuff in going. Yeah.
There's always not petrol to do at full hour or something boys come to home. But jumping towards with the RX-8 race and the bathers in the production cars, the one for racing is the set up of the car different and obviously the pizza as well. Yeah, I wanted to ask that. You always refer to your other car, the six hour car as another car, right?
It is a different car. Yeah, so there you go. So set up wise? Well, it's basically an RX-8 cup car but it's got a drive brake fuel system put into the fuel tank so we can fill it with a proper fuel rig and what the VX do.
And it's got different tyres and different brake pads, the pads that are in the zero pad so go at the distance. There's not a lot else done to it. Still pretty much a cup car but it's built under the production car rules and regulations which are slightly different to the RX-8 cup rules and regulations. It's awfully similar, you know, crunchy base.
What's the fuel tank size in that cup car? With the drive brake system it's about 70 litres, 71 litres fuel. And the other one? 100?
No, without the drive brake you're about 65 litres. What's the company like? You drive it flat out. They suck to you, that's the problem.
70 litres are about so used that great company like you use a lap. I use a litre a minute. I'll set up my timer, litre a minute. Well, it's the easiest way to work it out.
Yeah, okay. You're using a litre a minute pretty much anywhere you go. So you've got it literally now off fuel. You can do it an hour.
Yeah. Maybe just go there and push it. But the battle depends on whether you're lucky with safety cars, you know. So you can cruise around and safety car inside fuel.
You get a couple of minutes. Hang on, 60 litres. 70 litres? Okay, yeah, you can take it.
Yeah, because that's the problem. I know, without stressing it, then you've got to go. Because there's six, it stops at the six out of the shoe. Like you have to go there.
It depends which class you're around. Oh, well, class of six. Yeah, the outright, no, it's fine. I think.
The outright class, like the M4's and the M3's, they've got to do five stops. The Mazda's only got to do three stops. Class of the question, you've got to fuel gauge it. Yeah.
It's not a proper gauge or like a light. It's a factor. It's a factor. Yeah.
It doesn't have your own side to fill up. Yeah, it's a factor. It works off. You know, having litres we've done in the laps.
Yeah. And it changes from driver to driver. So it's about up to 2.7 litres a lap. Yeah, it's a bad basis.
Yeah. All less pendant on who's in the car. Does the RX8 like bathers? Is it a...
It does all the time in the hill because it hasn't got torque. Yeah. But it's as fast as anything across the top. Across the top where it's really snakes its way through there.
Across the top. Then all the way down. Then top end, is it okay? 225, correct?
Yeah. Yeah, it's all right. And you're also saying you top speed where half way down the main car on Australia. So it turns into the chase.
Okay, you reach the peak. Yeah. There's easy on the brakes through there. It is good on its brakes and it's good on its tyres.
The way the balance helps on guessing. It's well balanced car. It could do with a bit more monday. But it is what it is.
Anyway, we're not running on the Mazda this year. We're running, well we are running on it. Mazda's Rob Scott's driving one with one back from the UK that comes over. We're using the car to your dad's eyes.
We're having a lot of use. We're having a lot of use. We're having a lot of use. We're having a lot of use.
Yeah, yeah. He's had lots of stuff with me. Yeah. We're driven in America and everything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we went to Kaliluna Bay, in Spain, Barcelona. We did a 24-hour couple of times together. We're looking to go back to Sipang in next year, 27.
There's a race there. We've done a couple of times. I can do it. So we're about to go to what comes to work again in May.
In the States? Yeah. We're going to go to a couple of A.A. races.
So Kwaxia'll meet us over there and we'll team up and drive and take the 6 riders out. So what car does? Team W's. We've got a couple of BMWs and 6 riders.
Tommy went with us last year, 24, we went to Virginia. They were like UK cars, neither American, they were American, so we did Virginia International in America. Two ADR races, Commonwealth Drive and Mazda, and we had six other drivers driving. So you know who's here, we're driving our own site.
Do you notice different driving styles between different countries? Or is it all pretty much the same? They're saying, they're on the same lines. They build their cars and run their cars, different by the way that drives the site.
Yeah, and the track layouts, it doesn't matter where you are, the world I'm guessing. I mean, different climates, different temperatures, different. There's no different tar type mixture, the tyres, the things like that. Or is that track by turn?
You're really getting into a low. Yeah, rather than a target by a tire. You see that from the entire area. There's a recent cover that was very bad built.
Were you seeing that? Never mind. Yeah, that one. Yeah, the thought in our race of Daytona on the bottle.
I said, I'll just ride around like three quarters. Or four, or one, or one, or one, or one. Yeah, the Daytona bottle. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then incorporates the racetrack on the infield as well. But it's a track that the GT cars use. Did they're using field as well? Or they're just, OK, they're like two quarters, what are you talking about?
I thought you'd just give the outside bottle. You're going to turn left off the bottle and you do the whole. Yeah, yeah. Is it in a circuit?
Yeah. Just like a normal racetrack. Yeah. And you go back out on the bottle again.
And it's a four-year-round race. What's the bottle like that part of it? It's different. It's like nothing you've driven on before.
You've got to drive on it differently and boat trip differently. Like it's... And the cars are angles. Like it's really steep.
It's a 30-degree. It's not supposed to keep falling back down to the hill to the infield. Yeah. So you've got to sort of...
The faster you go, the more it stays up. And when you come off the bottle on the flat section, you've got to steer out of it. Otherwise, you want to turn itself back. Yeah.
So what's the fastest line up high or down low with the war one? Because you're not cutting the wall. You're not cutting the even. Someone checked once and used the wall to their advantage.
Oh yeah, the changes are on that. But you can't use... There's no apex. You're sort of sitting two lanes on a wall.
So you sit on the bank, pented upon your speed relative to the other cars. So the faster cars go high and the slower cars go low. And you can end up with like three lanes of three different speeds of cars on the bank. Coming through the door.
Yeah. So you can go back to the side side by side. The faster cars at the top on the outside, higher or higher on the bank. Either wall, it'll drive past the slower cars.
Shit. Yeah. They are steep. I've seen some of them try to walk it.
And it's like when you put the camera horizontal. It's a wall. It literally is a wall. Your mirrors don't work.
The side mirror is effective on the banks. Yep. Because you can't see what's behind it. It's probably because the car's banking.
It's hard to explain, but it's completely... It means that the top people are longer. Yes. I think they're more power.
They're going to have it's like somehow. Lower down the bank is shorter. More distance to travel away. But you can speed up high.
Not necessarily. Depending on the speed you can't. But the faster cars are staying on the inner line of the lower side though. Or is it just how they just...
Some of them go up and down. Yeah. The slower cars are going to start the top because they're going to be slower. If there's no cars in the way, then the faster line at times just it is to go low and then go back up high and then go back up high and then go back up high.
Go back up. Go back up high. It's a good point run. It just depends if you've got traffic.
Yeah. So the rule of thumb's generally the faster cars go high. Okay. Oh, so that's more the rule for safety and overtaking.
Pretty much the rule of thumb. Okay. So what's the bad rule? There was a car there that we couldn't believe was on the track.
Is it because it's bolts falling out of it? It's literally held together with string and... It's been hit so many times. It's just bits of scaffolding, bolted together with...
What's this screw near you? Leave that. It was just... It should be right.
It couldn't believe it was on the track and it was racing. And it was all over the shop as well. I get that as a car. It's just can't run around and around.
It's one of the most unbelievable things I've ever seen. What's this screw near you like over there two hours? Slack. Over there.
Yeah. Not as smart as I thought. Is it the rule? They've got an easier rule to follow.
It's more lenient. Or is it just a different attitude when it comes to racing? What do you think? Tommy?
Do you think the rules over there were slacking them? I think they were. I think they were. Look at the cars as hard as well.
They get looked at here. You've got to make rules and regulations. Safety is better now. Sorry.
It's all about safety. As soon as someone thinks it's fat. And you guys experienced that last year. It was a quick one of your close friends.
How did it pass away? Was it turned wild? Yeah. Yeah.
You can't. I mean you can't. It's my race. It's dangerous.
It likely doesn't happen often. But I don't know how many cages and helmets are there. If something goes wrong, you can have problems. That's why you can't harass the screw-hearing guys.
Because if it fucks up, it's there. It's happening. The owners really have a go. The drivers have a go.
The screw-hearing is not there. A few reason. Yeah. I'm never dragged.
I'm never dragged. I've never. I've got a call for a screw-hearing with the beam or all that. I'm back in the drag days with Oces back.
I used to be leaning on the other side to get a clearance on the wheel. You know what I mean? On the other side. I'm not the other side.
It's true. There you can. I think safety is paramount. It's not for all of a bum.
Yeah. It's not that short. It's not that short. It's like baffes down the street.
Or whatever. When they make the centrs. Yeah. Well, they're done that to slow down the street.
Let's go back to last ten to twenty years in safety. A best fit is a more time and money on making tracks safer. Or making cars. Or getting track safer.
Or getting equipment. Everything. Or is there a combination of everything they've made? Oh, look, despite its everything.
You've got to walk. Hand-snare you also the tracks. You've got your run-offs. There's no walls right there.
Yeah. Well, remember, you used to buy a car from a dealership. I think I'll race it. And what was this?
We don't have a Sunday sell-up. So, back on our own. So, you've got a full, full, you're one of the organizers you're heavily involved in the running of the series. Twenty-four cars?
Is that like the limit? We had twenty-seven, one set east in Creco. Just before COVID. But the numbers are coming back now and the category is still growing.
So, I reckon we could see, you know, we'll see a grid of twenty-seven cars. I reckon this year. So, how would you join the category? I mean, is it expensive to bring your own car?
Can you hire a car? Can you just be a driver and pay for a seat? If you can build your own car, you can buy a car that's already built. Pretty easy to get in.
It's grassroots, motorsport. And contacting, I'd say, cut management will guide you and help you and ask all your questions. Roughly, to get to buy a car. We've got a thirty-grant.
So, it's just not that expensive. If you see an RX8 in the classic cars, you just buy an RX in the classic cars. Cars are the cars that are created for thirty years. What's that?
What's that use paper called? The credit card. If you see an RX8 in the trade, I mean, you buy it. Then obviously you've got to kit it out and get it.
So, you look at about thirty for the car and to kit it out, would you get changed from a hundred grand? Or, it's like that. No, I'm going to put it in a forty-year car. You buy a car that's racing for thirty grand.
It's a thirty grand drive. The cheaper, the cheaper, the cheaper, the cheaper. So, it's a leading category. So, these days now, you buy a car for a five or ten grand, like a road car.
Then you'd spend another twenty to twenty-five on it to turn into a race car. Okay. Or you go, at least a car where you can buy cars or an eel. So, it's one of the cheaper categories.
And what sort of racing was this? It's a proper one makes series. That's the other thing that's really cool. Yeah, so, the cars are identical.
They're equal. Everything's controlled. Yeah. Everything makes it.
Ties are the same brand. Yep. So, you can get into any of the cars and do the same laptop. Okay.
It's like only a go-cut, you know, where you rent a go-cut. It's street. Go-cut track and you rent a go-cut and you draw it around. It's all the go-cuts are exactly the same.
It's like that. When you were there in the office, you made everybody pull their second-wises off. To check that they were all the same. It's not a short, but you're racing.
That's the event. So, you control the magnitude. But you also control it to make it cost effective. Because otherwise, people spend money.
It's most likely the guy who's got the most money is going to spend it. He's going to do a better car or better listener. So, you restrict the expenditure. Yep.
Like having new tyres that can buy and let stuff that keeps the cost down. Yep. And then no one's really got an advantage on someone else. So, 30K for the car to get on the grid?
Yep. Do they need to pay to take advantage of these? Yeah, they need to take advantage of these. Well, have you registered at the beginning of the year and you get a competition number along to see when that's the number you run on there?
And then you pay entry fee every round which includes practice and garage. Yeah. You know, and then you've got to pay to petrol and your tyres and your where your great pads out. So, some guys are running for you know, till three grand around and someone's been six grand around.
Okay. So, then there's the travel cost, you know, we got to pile it. So, we got to be the tens of. So, we're six to seven grand around.
Yeah, typically. And then the six rounds each year. So, you're looking at that say 40 grand to run. Yep.
Plus 30 to get the car on the grid on one off. You're going to fill up all of the hardest, not, I mean, as you say, the most expensive or the hardest one to get to the shoe. That's the furthest travel for the majority of the drivers. And you've done well then.
Yeah, yeah, so it's probably one of the most expensive rounds to do fill up all. Yeah. And fill up all of the expensive place for anyone to go and race. Especially the kind of the great restaurant there.
The track owners charge a premium for the use of the track. But it's an eight grade like international circuit. It's as good as driving a path. You say, fill up all of the run knows fill it.
It's fill up all of the and bath. It's synonymous with world tracks. Everyone knows. Everyone knows.
So, everyone from overseas all the New Zealanders want to come over and drive it. For that round. Yeah. Either they want to drive.
That's a cool thing. That's a cool thing. It's a cool thing. It's not.
It's not. Well, I'd like one more. I'd like one more. What's it?
Clips on. The van. The van's really new though. It hasn't got that reputation yet.
But it's getting there. It's a good track. It's definitely part of that stuff all about twice. It was something wrong with the bitchement.
It was a bed. Half of the bar. That all the drivers, uh, ran out of ties. It was chilling in the ties.
It was really abrasive to the ties. Very late. What ties are you running the shoe the same as last? We're on the Neng King tyre which is an R-spec tyre.
It's not the colissensenie slip. It gets warm and it grips really well. It's a bit like a slick but it's got a groove, not much of a groove, but a groove coming up. Enough are wet what you need to put a waste.
Fairly enough are wet. No are we still running in the west? Okay. Because again it's cost effective.
So you're not sliding the line with the track with it? Yeah baby, but everyone is. It's the same for everyone. Yeah, but it's not.
It's not made for water. No. But you can back off and get around the track. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Everybody has to do it. So Nankheim's the Fortas there with the really cost effective tyre that works really well. Yes, it's a good trial tyre they do deal with the RX-A Cup and it run by their tyres. So all the consumable parts like tyres and brake pads are all at a special competitive price.
Yeah, and what's the other ones before? What category are you on? Just your basic motorsport Australia. They call it a national race licence, which is the lowest most basic.
Is it a speed bike? Is it a speed bike? Yeah. There is a speed licence that's lower again.
We can't race with a speed licence. But is this recams? You go to that website and you... Yep, and you go to the licence.
But we've got a bloke involved, a couple of guys involved with the category that do the licence testing. Which you've got to do the call and observe the licence testing. So you still do it like you do it around a track? Yeah, you've got to go to a racetrack with a car, be it a road car and you get into it and you drive around the track and you're not doing reverse parking and stuff like that.
I've got to see how you place the car and how much speed you're going to go again. So if you're too slow, you're not going to get through. You're too slow, you're not going to get through. Or if you don't know, the track's going to end up with the licence.
They also watch you with all the cars around you. Okay. So they check your spatial awareness. Yep.
Make sure you're using mirrors. Pretty, not strict but common sense. Yeah, it's a race. You're making me want to go on race.
It's not hard. What the hell? I can't speak it about you. You lose weight.
Oh, you lose weight. What the fuck for? Like, you're trying to lose curles and a bit of use. No, that's different.
What about you, do you need to have the hacker? No, I might need to handle it, don't worry. I should do it. Don't let him in a car with you around a track.
There you go. I've still got balls. I'm going to drive the focus. Yes, I'm last, but because he's getting lost.
Because he's getting a problem. He's all going to drive before you. He's all going to drive before me. He's going to drive before me.
Oh, yeah. We're talking about an RS, what? Focus, four, focus, RS, turbo, four, four, four, four, drive. How many kilowatts does it make for us?
We're 300, but now it's 180. Because what's wrong with three, so. No. It'll be back up there.
For that. It'll be good for the six-year-old. It'll be good for the six-year-old. Well, he's running the six-year-old.
Yeah. So we're going to have to do those racing. Security racing. We're going to see who's the best driver with this car.
Oh, so it's just a car for my car. We're going to see who's the best driver. Well, hang on. Let me ask you this.
What did you use to do with rally? Tell us what you used to do with rally. Test drive. For the third.
For the factory test drive. Yeah, you're okay. Whereabouts? Yeah.
Middle East, the Greece, England, and what cars? Escorts. One, two, zero, zero. Zero, eighties.