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We have to wear your sweet hat and have to fuck it up. There you go. We got an American flag, we got a skull, we got a camo. What the fuck else do you want? Are you American or not?
Look at this. Oh, nice dude. You're all in for 250th anniversary. It's also the only socks I brought on this trip somehow, so I wear them every day now. You only brought one pair or one style?
No. One pair of socks and no underwear. Oh god, I've done that before. We have to wash our socks in the sink with shampoo, with hotel shampoo. I wear them when they're wet.
And it's like I went on a run here. It is muggy. Oh, yeah, baby. What am I ass on? That's the fear of this weekend at the UFC.
Yeah. Because it's East Coast. It gets very muggy. Yeah, for sure. And DC. So these guys are all working outside right now.
I saw a video of Amans Ahabi working outside and Elia Toporia's working outside and, you know, you have to feel that heavy, heavy air. It changes things. Oh, yeah, man. I remember when I was a kid, I went to the Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs. I see those thunderstorms, dude.
Oh, yeah, we're fucked. Fuck. There is a canopy that's over the cage. They put a canopy over the cage. Well, lightning hits that.
That's not good. Well, if it hits the canopy, I think we're okay. I mean, I think I'm more worried about a terrorist attack than I am before the lightning. Oh, that's true. But I probably should be more worried about lightning.
I actually have friends that have been hit by lightning. We do. Remi. Yeah. For sure.
So I know I don't know anybody who's been hit by a terrorist attack. I don't know if anybody's been hit by a terrorist attack. But I was, yeah, we had new crazy storms here. You know, you're playing golf? No, I was outside.
Thank you. I thought the storm was over and I was out of my balcony and I was like, wow, this is cool. Oh, that's not good. It's a good spot. One hit.
And then it hit. I started here in Sizzling near me. I'm like, holy shit, I got to get inside. Electricity sizzling. Oh my God, that's so scary.
That's such a fucked up way to go. You ever see that one video where the guy is walking down the street and he gets hit by lightning? He wakes up, walks down the street a little bit further. He's recovering and he gets hit again. Dude got hit by lightning twice.
It's like, I don't know if it's time lapse or what? I don't know how long he was out for because it's like one of those ring cams that catches them. It's like a fucking cooked twice. You know, you're having a bad day. I forget what Remi said happened to him after he got hit, but I remember his hearing was fucked up for a long time or something like that.
We do the mountains back home like run them. We were up on Diamond Peak, me and Tanner last year. And a storm, you know, kind of like the weather report, like having some clouds or whatever wasn't supposed to be thunderstorms, but you could hear kind of growling and you're like, God, does that come in this way? And it doesn't have to be that close. I mean, I think lightning can hit from 10 miles away.
Really? Yes, it can go sideways. So anyway, if you see that building, you should get off the top of a mountain, right? When we were up there and we're still wanting to get the summit and then bomb off. Well, we're up there.
And he goes, he was dead. He goes watch. And he had them like this and they're like ticking like electricity was in his trucking poles. Then we I said, let's get the fuck off this thing. So we bombed off and there's these kids down that were like, they said, should we go up?
And I said, I'd wait a little bit. The girls hair was standing up. Oh my God. Oh my God. So crazy.
It is not that. Yeah. So they just got died in Florida last year in what they called blue skylightening. What? Yeah.
It can jump from several miles away. Whoa. You just stand on the beach, there was a blue sky above storm as a year. And I think it can go. Wow.
I need to know I'm in the mountains all the time his death on the lessons of grimmer my florida led the u.s In both lightning fatalities 12 and strikes per square mile 76 Holy shit by the way You see that guy in Florida that he was running from the cops and he got killed by alligator no No, dude It's body cam footage the cops got the gun out and he's he's like stop stop stop the guys running He's going in the water and all sudden boom Like right under the shot. I'm gonna get shot. I'm gonna get shot. I'm gonna get shot big kill by a fucking dinosaur Oh my god shot you get the bullets gonna hurt like fuck you're gonna be in shock You're gonna realize you're bleeding out. You're gonna have to say I wish I was a better person who's gonna be my family But that fucking alley is gonna take a while to kill you. It's gonna roll you it's gonna drag you under the water
You're gonna realize you can't get free. You're gonna try to poke its eyes. It's not gonna work It's gonna be a miserable existence. Tell it's over. You see that one video of a dude He got attacked by an alligator lost his arm So a bit of fucking arm off and he made his way back home So he they're they're like talking to him like right when he got out of the swamp and you got one arm and he looked like There's not a chance in hell. He was sober during any of this experience. He looked like he had been methdubs
Fucking 12th grade. Oh my god. This dude. Yeah, this is the dude Just fucking lost his stump. Yeah, that's why I wanted for three fucking days with one arm. Oh my god
Well, first of all, how do you not bleed out? I know Was he saying on my right hand side so I went to swim and she got she got my forearm So I grabbed her like this and like she's trying to roll but she snapped her head So my arm went backwards like this completely he says he fought for his life She drug me out It's so bored. He says he fought for his life. I can imagine them in an editing bay. Yeah, I do that again I know he says he fought for his life. Yeah, we got that part with an alarm
We I would have to assume that it wondered through alligator and snake infested swamp for three fucking days Thanks for telling us what we need to be believing here You know I went alligator hunting out there a few years ago, you know that alligator that we shot in the front Bro there everywhere. Yeah, if you ever want to come it's really fun. I know you don't do much hunting outside of oh hunting Yeah, but they need to be killed. They're vastly overpopulated. You can do a bow you can yeah, well, that's like everything It's pretty sketchy, but this you know that's a goodly skilled alligators with a bow in Florida Yeah, you just got to catch them in the right spot. You got to basically hit them like right behind the head
Yeah, I think you probably hit them with a fixed blade. Yeah for sure there's a wheel or something There's a brain um, yeah, so there's like a bump back there Then it's like halfway in between the eye and the bump something like you want to be like 20 yards Yeah, you gotta be fucking exit right in there for sure the good thing about that if you fuck up and it's gonna ricochet It's gonna be fine. You know what I mean? It's like it's not making if you go for the longs and miss hit in the stomach that's not good right be pretty sick and miserable death They probably still live those fucking things are such monsters such monsters I always think you know we've killed bear upper kip killed a bear up at the rivets with three legs Oh, yeah, I'm just like how one of them will eat the other ones like yeah, I'd like to fucking like so like how do you you know?
How do you survive? Yeah, we have to get antibiotics for like a hang nail. I think our whole biome is probably all fucked up from Washing it all the time. Yeah, probably I mean completely makes sense, right? Yeah, yeah Animals don't seem to get a whole lot of infections like we do unless they're farm animals right or like occasionally Well, it happens all the time in the rut right like when you're dressing an animal you finally holes in the side of it We're like pussy. I remember one time one of the elk that we shot at to hone had his back leg was just filled with
Puss like the whole back it was all puss because he had gotten stabbed It's usually not back because usually they turn because I know they're getting their ass kicked and so it's in their hind Quarter the dominant bull gets a jab in before they go and you've seen those two home bowls Those eleven hundred pound fuckers do imagine one of those stabbing in the head no and also if you see Adlers there that are broke because they're so heavy. Uh-huh like there's that bone is so thick for their hours if a bull is Break imagine the fourth requires to break that and I'm not going right up your ass This episode is brought to you by square space if you're thinking about building a website you should try square space I know because I use it. That's right Joe Rogan calm is powered by square space It has all the features that you need to create a standout website like an AI enhanced website builder SEO optimization tools and seamless Checkouts with mobile pay links head to square space calm slash Rogan for a free trial And when you are ready to launch use the offer code Rogan to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain This episode is brought to you by uber eats hockey seasons here and uber eats is delivering game-day deals on favorites like wings
Pizza fries and snacks and you can order more than food like gear to rep your team or fresh batteries for the remote When your watch party gets hungry or you just need anything Order in and keep everyone's attention on the ice core great deals on uber eats all season long because hockey is for the hungry Terms apply product availability varies by region see app for details. Oh my camera got that be a dream They find them you know with these holes in them like when you shoot them you find out like what they've been through Like no wonder why they barely moved when they get hit with an arrow Yeah, they probably didn't know like when two bulls are fighting and then one of them gets hit with an arrow They barely react. No, that'd be like what that was that?
They're just so just locked into war especially if you like getting between the ribs and don't hit anything Right just like just like that bull would be like oh wait What was that nothing and I'm saying whoa I'm losing yeah, hey, did you find that video see if you find the video of the guy with a Body cam footage getting killed by the alligator You see a little bit though. I just think it's exciting It's just you love watching chaos online. I don't know why That's like the music okay, so here it is the cops got his gun out This isn't a very good yet see the cops got his gun out And he's like trying to think of what to do and this dude's getting jacked. Oh there goes the alligator. Yeah, whoo shit Yeah, oh Did you see that line of it? Yeah, I'll get up a little bit so you can see it so the dudes trying to swim away
I look at the alligator boom. That's a rap son. Did he put his hands up here? I don't think so I think he just so I got back it up a little bit more so you see the guy swimming away What's that? Another same lady narrating It was a full-on attack In Florida a few years back where a guy was running from the cops I think I was a high-speed chase gets to a bridge stops the car throws in the park jumps off the bridge boom alligator gets them Literally like landed right on a fucking alligator That's the reality of the water all the fresh water in Florida is filled with alligators Mm-hmm. They have to check Disneyland all the time. Yeah, Disney World
They have to check it all the time every little kid got killed there a few years ago Now you take your kid to fucking Disney World and it gets killed by a dinosaur Rough well and also it's like you know how I don't know you have dogs But are they around when you're eating and like something falls on the ground? They're always checking the ground. Well, that's what alligators doing the water They're just sitting there just chilling out there here little splash or like oh like a dog was that a crumb hitting the floor? I the dinner table is over there and those eat whatever hit the water especially if something seems like it's struggling Yeah, I got you opportunists. Yeah, they're just chilling just waiting for shit to hit the water Which is that's what fishing is to you know you see that the fly is hatching You try to match it turn put it on there and like they're like okay got one hit the water Right, but yeah alligators are masters of taking advantage of opportunity and everyone's while some comes off a bridge and hey Really shocking how many of them there are in the Everglades like you know, I went I guess was three years ago And when we were there, it's like everywhere you look you have to look for an alligator It's like nothing. I've ever said I thought it'd be hard to find them. I thought like we go out there
You know you look around you probably glass a little see eyeballs pop up. No, they're fucking all over the water Like how many would you see we saw 15 20? Yeah, maybe more It's chilling maybe 30 you see like some movement on the water and then they dunk under and you're in the fucking swamp now It's sketchy shit. Yeah, the whole the whole feeling it's very weird. It's very weird because you're like this is a mess Yeah, like there's the feeling that you get there like oh, this is infested like you're infested by dinosaurs And then meanwhile you go an hour and a half later You're in Miami have a steak drinking ice peanut noir. You think you're in civilization. You're you're fucking
Half a day's drive from monsters an infested jungle filled with monsters and imagine if you weren't in a boat Like what if what if you were to somehow somehow happen to the boat? Oh, you fucked. Yeah, what would you do if like the boat sink out there? Well, we weren't in a boat. Okay, we drove out with with guides and we drove out in trucks And they know like where the lake areas are where the you know, it's very dense out there It's very thick. It's just hot and muggy and and these fuckers just
You see him pop up you see the eyeballs pop up you see some motion, but you fucking see him everywhere Yeah, and then you look around and how big the every glades is and you go how many of them are out here Yeah, because it's not like we found the honey spot right? You know I mean it's like the whole ever glades and there when I was a kid You know I lived down there in Florida when I was 11 years old from 11 to 13 I lived in Gainesville and there's four alligators back then but they were endangered And so you weren't allowed to kill him and so they would kill people's dogs and shit I remember this lady and my neighborhood her dog got jacked She's walking her dog by Lake Allison just snatched her dog. It took the web. He's just like the late 70s and We were filled feeding marshmallows so you go to the docking throw marshmallows and alligators would come up and eat the marshmallows Mm, and it was you know, it's weird. Yeah, it's kind of cool They're there freaks you out a little bit, but they weren't dangerous right cut to all these years later now because no one hunted them Because they basically were making shoes out of them right in the day Yeah, they almost hunted them to extinction and they should probably start that again We need to pray out again. She's happened like back in like the 70s like that was the cool shoes
Like in the pool halls where I used to play pool like the old guys would talk about how a guy was really dressed up He had his gators on he look good. He had a nice suit yet his gators on his gators I got a gator boot alligator shoes the Casey. Yeah, Gator boots seem to be a different thing because it kind of almost makes sense Because like like you get boots that are made out of like snake skin and ostrich and like that's kind of a cowboy boot Think yeah alligator dress shoes. Yeah, you got your gators. Yeah, very hard to get polish it Nice, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, I love that. I got apologize to Rick flair. He got scammed
So some some person reached out and said that they were representing this podcast and they were gonna have that he was gonna come on the podcast I think Tim Dillon is happy with him too. It didn't happen with him where they got him But they send you an email saying that they're gonna have you come on a podcast, but they need your bank information Yeah, they'll pay you sometimes it's like you're three thousand bucks I got those two and what it really is is they're just gonna empty your bank account and it's just a scam So if you get an email like that from me, it's not real. Sorry Rick flair. So I'm sure I don't know if he lost his money But Tim Dillon they tried to get him on Amy Poehler show. So it's that's the scam The scam was they reached out to talk about it on his podcast. They reached the scammer reached out said I'm representing the Amy Poehler show
We would love to have you on and he was like that doesn't seem like that would be a good thing for any polar I don't think I'm a good guest. It was like I don't think it's real Yeah, it says you know we need your bank account information and so many people just like don't think about it or their boomers or Well, they make it seem legit because I know Pat McAfee I got an email from them about coming on the show and I've been kind of communicating with some of those guys before and so I'm like Maybe I'm just for me. It's like a big deal like ESPN and Pat McAfee. He's like to me. He reminds me of you He just kind of does what it says whatever he wants does if the boss is say whatever He's like fuck off. I just love that unfiltered like true thoughts
He's a guy's got fucking money that says fuck you. That's what I love. It's just it's beautiful So I mean I celebrate that's that's a you know first amendment in his glory right there. Yeah, it seems like a genuine good Yeah, I don't know him, but it's I don't know him either But when you hear a talk enough yeah, you can assume or you can like put the pieces puzzle together But and they've wore my stuff on there. So I'm like oh, maybe this is real right and so the guy I asked it He's just a ao he's just a great guy, but he he said no It's not knowledge it but they had me because it was like it almost seemed real fight night is here title shots debut killers and the rising contender Nobody's talking about yet and only draft Kings has you covered every step of the way the draft Kings app is now available in all 50 States and includes all markets bringing the game straight to your fingertips wherever you are no matter where you're watching You're always connected and in the game with one app new drafting customers sign up at the code Rogan spend five bucks to get two hundred In rewards within 21 days that's code Rogan in partnership with draft Kings the crown is yours
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No, this is comebacks out there. Unfortunately if you say you have some elk meel share that might be real nope Friends and family that's it. I give it out the weirdos But you're bringing some bear meat. I know and I know dude. You're I said you're in trouble I know we got a lot of notes. I got I got shit. We're gonna discuss today
They're like I had a scientist on yesterday. He had less notes less. I know I'm ready. Well, we had some football before we go Any further what's going on with you tooth? Why you got a gold tooth? I love it. Yeah, it's a well
It's it's kind of a joke But I've been like for years obsessed with like perfect teeth, right and that's like Adam green cheese always busting your balls Yeah, I did like the white strips and all this other shit and like I always cared about what just probably care too much So now I don't care what I look like but what changed I don't know I'm just like been playing the game too long now It's just like I'm just done it and the game's not over unfortunately even though I'm saying I don't want to play anymore game still goes on So it's like I'm still part of it, but anyway, I was doing this okay long story short I had I broke this at high school so I had a fake tooth since high school and Yeah, it's like long story kissing this girl basketball. I had broke the tooth anyway broke the teeth on her teeth Yeah, so she had teeth in her lip. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah as Jack never did that But anyway, um, we so I got a fixed got a few different iterations of it finally found one that looked good Well, I go in there I hadn't been in the dentist in forever because I just what hate going and they said oh you got a cavity under that whatever
Composite is what it's called. I'm like, okay cool So we got to take it off fix the cavity then you get another one and I'm like whatever So I go back in there next next appointment. They take it off no cavity But now we just have this like whittle down regular tooth just like a like a post of a tooth So because they were moving cavity because there was no cavities They thought on the x-ray there was so they had the anyway the cap or the composites gone So they said well you need to go and match the color of your teeth for your new fake tooth and spring and in Springfield swing by this Springfield Whatever they do there for dentistry. So I go in there and they said the girl there goes Hey, my husband makes some really cool gold teeth. He does a really good job. You want a gold one?
And I was like wait and so she's like we'll do a white one too, but a gold one might just be fun And then I'm like yeah, it'd be fun. So I told Trace. I'm just gonna do it just day or two So this has been months now. You gonna keep it? I don't like it. I like it too. I like it's like everybody
You know, everybody's got regular teeth. Nobody's got gold teeth or something anymore It was a thing back in the day remember Mike Tyson had a gold tooth for a while This is like my savings account because I figured that I'm gonna lose everything because I'm such a fuck up But I'll still have this I can still that sucker out. You can buy a cheeseburger. Yeah, if I get into buying right It's like hey, well, I got this I have one crown. I have one fake tooth back here I crack one of my molars I had a root canal and then it Like so then they had put like a crown on it and it cracked and so now I got another one I got a little piece of it missing. I think I'm gonna get a gold one nice go on right here. Do it now
You're inspired me because also it's in the back so you won't see it all the time until like yeah Yeah, I know yeah, well when you're copying you when you're cracking up you always do a big smile Yeah, so that one people see it that'll be fun fortunately. I laugh a lot. I know happy life. Yeah, you do you're crushing it lately Oh, let's just keep it's just same old stuff, right? Just keep going I look at your guests. It's just like non-stop dude
It's like it's people see like all your success you think most people would be like okay. I'm good I'll you put off the gas you don't know you keep I mean you work your ass off Well, you very rarely get an opportunity in life to do anything like what I can do and very few human beings get this opportunity And I feel insanely fortunate and also Very responsible like I'm responsible for this whole thing. I have to keep it rolling I know people are addicted to it. They love it. They want the variety. They want scientists
They want guys like you they want athletes and fighters. They want all this shit They want to hear all these different people talk all these different perspectives and so huge obligation You know, I feel like connected to all these people. I know I don't talk to them all the time I don't say but I feel it I know it and I'm dedicated so I just keep my friend on the gas I never I never say oh I can't believe I have to do this. Oh, I can't believe I've show up I just yeah, I always try to reset every day go god. I'm so lucky It's so fortunate and then you know when you have that opportunity I think it's a terrible tragedy a travesty to not capitalize on it to not like make the most out of it Because I know that it's like very few human beings in the world Well, I mean how many people have ever had the number one podcast. It's always gone like back and forth
I've had it for like six years now. Yeah, six or seven might be seven years now, and it's like I'm not I'm not keeping my foot off the gas No, exactly what I'm doing. I'm gonna do it my best I'm gonna keep doing it until the fucking wheels fall off That's like people have said like with bow hunting and stuff like if you you know you work your ass off to get this place where you're respected Right, and then there's gonna be people that want your position and like with your attitude my attitude too is like fucking come get it Yeah, come get it come try to take it cuz I remember I'm working my ass off still We were hanging out somewhere and you said one of the coldest things to this dude This dude was we're all just fucking around I really even forget who it was because it didn't matter and he said yeah and after that I'm gonna challenge you to a race and You go good luck with that So cold you go. Yeah, you didn't even remotely take it seriously. It was like a five-year-old saying they're gonna kick my ass Yeah, okay. Good luck with that. Yeah, I mean you get you get confident when it's something you do like further down the line than anybody
Yeah, and so if you're gonna take my spot, right? I mean it's been a grind dude 40 years Yeah, the whole taking the spot thing is so stupid because everybody's on their own little journey And you could look at it in terms of I'm gonna take that guy spot and maybe that's your motivation and that's cool and all that But there's a negative attached to that motivation if you don't have an actual personal beef with someone and you hate them Just because they're in a position that you wish you are you're wasting energy I know this sounds like very hippie, but it's true like you're that energy instead should be celebrating that there's people like that out in the world that Do inspire you and are out there pushing themselves to like extreme limits Just and it excelling at whatever it just whatever it's fucking playing guitar or doing stand-up comedy You should look at those people like wow What are they doing that I can do to make myself more successful or better or what where can I get to a point?
How can I get to a point where I'm like that? Mm-hmm, but most people don't do that most people like fuck that guy that guy fucking sucks this sucks and fucking He's a pussy and he's a diss and he's using steroids and he's fucking lying about how many miles he runs And it's there's always gonna be people like that and I'm telling my message to the haters I was a hater when I was a kid. I was 100% a hater 100% like all the other people like when I was fighting everybody else was a pussy They were all pussies. Yeah, unless they were worried in my weight division They're worried in my weight division that I could celebrate a bit every my weight division was a pussy that guys I'm gonna fuck that guy up. He's got nothing. I could never celebrate people even like national champions people that I couldn't celebrate them
Right, it's a waste it's a waste of energy Yeah, and you get more energy out of looking at what they do well and analyzing it and being inspired by it It's a hard struggle because your ego wants you to compare yourself to them and find flaws in them You know fuck that guy fuck this book that it's a waste of energy Yeah, you have to be selfish with your energy your energy is very critical. It's everything in life Yeah, everything you do in life is dependent on you having energy and for you to waste your energy in some stupid ego-driven Direction just because you're too weak to recognize like oh this guy can kick my ass Oh, this guy could shoot a bow further than me. Oh, this guy runs way farther than I can run Oh, this guy's way better at playing guitar than me. What the fuck can I do to get where he's at?
Yeah, you got to just that's a it's a trap because not only does it take away energy. It takes away progress It takes away energy from you investing in you being better in the future, right? It's bad all around Yeah, there's no good to it at all. No, I I agree with that and it's like that that energy is a resource that we have to protect I think that when you talk about like you talk about all the outliers that you you have this conversation with or sit across the table from you And I think your attitude and how you look at things like in that lens that makes people Want to come up like you said you listed all these people and people want to hear what they have to say people I hear what they have to say to you because you have a way of drawing out More information in a different way because your attitude is so pure I think like even if you didn't believe what you said It was still if you just said like I want to be positive but your questions were all negative like in tone or like Confertational in tone people wouldn't want to be on here like they want to be on here now You being positive and looking at things like how can I get better? How can I grow? How can we all learn and in?
Get better from this. That's the lens that you put the information that comes out through these microphones out into the world Which means people are attracted to you people are attracted to the guests you have people are attracted to the show And so yet that energy we even though even if we don't admit it, we are attracted to it You know what I mean? You seek it out and I know when I'm I like to hear people paint a picture of something that gives me hope Mm-hmm. I don't want to hear about how fucked up everything is all the time, right? I want hope how can I have hope because hope gives me purpose. I'm like, okay, I can do this
I can I get to work and this will pay off. Yeah, so I think it's like it's more complicated Then we then we think but there's a reason why you're number one and have a number one and it's your attitude and it's how you speak It's a little that's also I got in really early, right? So I got in at like 2009 and there was hardly anybody doing it back then Yeah, so you could you could also I wasn't as famous back then so you could do it for a long time before anybody noticed you were doing it Right you could get good at it. So you get on your craft Right, you didn't have a bunch of comments that you had to sift through you didn't have that you just did it if you started now Maybe you wouldn't be number one. I wouldn't be you know what I mean?
There's there's so many pot. There's I mean how many podcasts are there now? Yeah, like what's the number? Ten million It probably keeps growing every week so everybody thinks they can do it because everybody can talk well The people starting now they might be you down the road. Oh, yeah, there might be some you know They'll be them incredible conversationalist that they'll be them. They'll be a different thing than me, but they'll be amazing at it
But you had because you had this insight or you know you saw Tom Green or whoever it was that like oh maybe I could do that You started this process of this decades of honing your craft to where it is now And now you've been on top for six seven years, right? And it's just because of all those reps that you did it's no different than anything we always talk about everything everything is reps Yeah, it's just like you want to get good at something yeah fail. Keep doing it I'm trying to use reps pools reps martial arts or reps. It's all reps It's all experience and it's all like being like super focused on what you're trying to do whatever it is Yeah, I think like I even think of you know I love Sean Ryan and he's has an incredible podcast, but I get I get why this is happening He's pretty down kind of on a lot right now just with government with Israel with Epstein with all that which is By design almost they want us to be hopeless and I don't want to be conspiracy theorists But they do want us hopeless because we can be controlled but Sean his podcast lately has taken more I don't want to say dark because it's more real, but it's like it's darker So I just think that attracts less people in a different type of person than yours
You have every reason to be dark about things and you are sometimes But that's not the theme of you well I think it's like first of all people that aren't comedians that are they're limited in in what they can talk about in the way They can talk about things you know being a comedian is there's a little bit of a safety. Yeah, you know I was like Fucking around get a little get a little you can write it off a little bit It's also there's that's real in terms of like another layer of conversation like there's a layer of conversation that is commonly known as talking shit and talking shit is a thing that you do where you're with your boys and you say things that you Don't really mean because they're funny and you make each other laugh you talk about how many dicks you suck last night You know, what why's your mouth so sore? You know, you fuck around you say things you're silly, you know You talk about oh, you know, it's hard doing all this math, you know, you don't you're not really doing math Right, there's you're not really having gay sex You're fucking around yeah, and when you can't fuck around there's a whole realm of the conversation That's missing not for sure and there's a whole like Like get out of jail pass like let's have fun. Let's loosen up a little here and then we're just losing up
You're serious right and then where does the conversation go back to the serious part which changes it? It's also the serious stuff is what gets engagement Yeah, and that's a little bit of a trap where if you only focus on the bad of the world and it's not saying you should ignore the bad No, you certainly shouldn't but if you only focus on the bad of the world, it's kind of a trap Yeah, it'll fuck your head up to you're that's swimming in negativity all the time. That's where I see Sean That's a feeling about with Sean lately. Where is with the differences with you? There's a reset. There's always this reset back to good the message is good. Yeah, I think you're I don't think you
That's not by design. That's just who you are. Yeah, no it's not like a design It's just I that's how I think yeah, but you can only dwell on negativity so much most of your day is not negative in fact Yeah, it's there's things that you need to be aware of and need to be prepare for them and the problem is is no It's not but our voices are oftentimes negative So it's easy if like if you get in that trap where you're listening to negative and you're thinking negative It's a lot of negative dude. Yeah, so it's like knowing that you know, I can't go down a negative rabbit hole pretty easy I try to avoid Waiting in that well sometimes it's like you just get fed up like where the fuck are these Epstein files? Yeah, what the fuck is this? Why is this redacted? Where is it?
We'll fuck kill JFK right come out with it with the fuck who fucking killed Charlie Kirk for real Yeah, what is that why is that fucking story so clouded in mystery? Why do they pave over the fucking ground right after the shooting? What the fuck is going on? See now you're making me a bad man That's what that it's easy to do it easy to do it's easy to do it's you see my nose look at my two on the very top Was it stay positive be nice and was that one say you have to be positive be positive be nice be positive It's a very terrible. It is to be a doctor But no, I have to remind myself like cuz I if you start mentioning those things that you just did I was hard Dude, I will fucking lose my shit because I'm so pissed. I know I should be and we all we're all pissed
We're all you know, we all thought that you know all that stuff is gonna be released right after the election It's gonna we're gonna drain the swamp and find all the pedophiles and well that the first term was more like that That's what gave me hope for this term the first term there was some draining the swamp going on I felt then we had the Biden disaster and now the second term has been I don't even know what this is I don't even know what it is. Well, it would have been a whole lot different first of all if we didn't bomb me run I feel like we bombed in the first time we were good the second time was like good Even the first time was like what the fuck are we doing? Yeah, and then when they were saying like this is it the escalations over we're gonna work this out like oh Yeah, and the second time when we bombed them I was like oh fucking great. Mm-hmm now and the most people don't want it That's the real problem most people in the country don't want to know look I know fucking foreign policy expert. I don't know what's going on over there, but I do know that all the people I know that really support Israel above everything else. They're fucking super happy about it
And I'm like but all the people I know that are like America first and or people that are like no new wars They really thought that we're gonna change things and this is all just for money. We're not gonna sacrifice soldiers for fucking money Those people are all upset. I don't know really what's going on though. That's the problem and I really wish I understood Iranian politics more and the run into running military structure because it seems like that's super fucking complicated like they've been preparing to be attacked like this forever And so they have like all these layers of control like when this guy gets taken out new guys are like ready to fill their spot And then when we're negotiating with a new guy Israel kills them And what happened yesterday they captured like 20 oil tankers. Oh did that. I didn't see that. Yeah, it was some
I don't know it might be bullshit. I was read as a toilet in one of the rare weak moments where I travel to X Yeah, it's a boy. I was so healthy lately last few months just staying off a fucking Instagram really staying off a Twitter Just not reading anything. Yeah, you're not anything But Instagram started funneling me schizophrenics. Oh, I don't know how I thought one schizophrenic my name is Dolores I am the real granddaughter of JFK the gold that's in the basement is all mine trying to stuff shit inside my vagina They wake me up in the middle of the night like crazy people Yeah, not just one but like a whole fucking series of them and I started getting those a couple weeks ago and Again, I might spend like 10 15 minutes, but it's all schizophrenic people like I gotta get off of this. Yeah, there's no reason
It's interesting. It's that's what it raises. That's what gets you hooked I got this one lady she was a hooker and she's a crackhead and she thinks everyone's a man like so she'll show photos of all these That's a fucking man She's just fucking out to lunch one guy thinks he's the rifle president of the United States And he wears like it's a dirty old suit and you can look at his eyes He's out there the dude's gone. He lives in a completely different dimension than we do and he's on Instagram I start watching like sometimes street fights. Oh, I watch a lot of those there's a lot of those out there and or the Pranks or the jokes or pets. It's like it's cool and then it's just like but they it's just a trap
Uh-huh just keeps you there and then an hour's going and you're like what did I do for an hour? It's just terrible for you, but since I've been really good about it I'm just so much healthy when I take like full days like days off I feel so much better and I'm like never one way on Hawaii We went to Hawaii a few years back and we went bow hunting and for access to your own the night and I broke my phone I don't remember this. Yeah, I do my phone just start calling people. Yeah, this is crazy I hang up and start calling new person hang up so I had to get a new phone It took like three days and it was only three of the happiest days of my life. Yeah, and I'm like oh I should just get rid of my phone. I was thinking that but I'm like oh I can't wait for my phone to my phone get there
Well, there's that where it's really handy is taking pictures of cool stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and capturing those memories. Yeah, it's If you have a question, yeah, I love it for because I've always have a question about something I love that Siri now you could just press Siri and ask a question like how many minutes or a month and it'll just tell you Yeah, like you'd be driving on the car. You have a question just press a button and you get the answer Yeah, fucking nuts how many times you have a question and you're just like oh probably never figured that out exactly now No, no, it was an answer literally instantaneous You know and you know I'll use perplexity all throughout the day to just ask questions because I'm just driving around or I'm sitting at home and I'm like I wonder how that happened and just now, you know like instantaneously Yeah, but the dealing with all the people stuff That's that's where I checked out. I'm like, I'm not interested in that I don't like it's like if you get a bowl of soup and there's little pieces of meat But most of the stupid shit, all right, I would recommend not eating that soup Yeah, and that's what social media is like I get some meat out of it here and there I get some interesting stories about science and some new discovery from the James Webb telescope Well, this is fucking cool
And I'll send me down a nice rabbit hole We're like studying things and getting excited about things and then I'll just deal with some fucking cooks and crazy people and shitheads and Grifters and people are mad that people are white and people are mad that people are black and like oh fuck Christ It's exhausting too much. It's exhausting. Yeah, it's just it's just eating soup with shit in it Yeah, it's just like it's not worth it. Yeah, what you brought in some of that bear I'm some of that son And so a lot of people are of the opinion that black bear is not an edible meat and that is that is incorrect People can't hear you unless they're on that microphone Give me some so also this no, okay that either you gotta get to the microphone also this think down and have a seat So you know who Casey Brooks is I've heard the name so he killed the world record elk. That's right. Yeah, that giant one
That thing is crazy. He does this is like super hot stuff. Oh What's called what they need to know about Chiliden whatever it's yours You know need to know about well, it's all worn out. Maybe I'm not but mighty Chilien chili. Yeah, okay So it's a chili yeah, you put that on like when you cook in steaks was that night?
Thank you. Look at that. Oh, sweet. Oh look at that fucking yeah. Oh my god nuts. That thing is literally nuts
What was the score on that it's like three eighty six or something no four eighty six or no four eighty six? Yeah, yeah, I've already seen close to five hundred Yeah, well this smells strong does it yeah, so these are the chili also this is a Yeah, he said you don't need much it says wait it's a for eighty. It says sprinkle this shit on everything. Okay. Yeah Yeah, so I brought it also Really good color. I mean I don't know I know what it makes calls. Yeah, we don't usually mess up
I learned how to do these just last year. It's not as bow brooks Yeah, I go female because I had a little one that I blow on yeah I never learned how to use a read yeah, the mouth read I definitely don't know how to make a elk set with a tube I'm fucking terrible. Well, let me see that knife real quick. Yeah, this is your pack out Skinner from Montana night Here's a good stuff right here. So we got some of this Tell me what you think of this. I've had it the last time you brought us from the same
No, this is what your company lights up in Portland and this is Ronnie Ronnie's the man dude Portland Oregon has a good wild game I think it's more like a russian cesser, but it's so good. Oh, it's good That's my job. Yeah, thank you Ronnie. And then this is a no trick analysis, right? This is I've ever tested yourself for chicken also. See if you have it
You might already have some bear jerky to have it and ignored it So the jerky so good and then also like this says whites on right here Lights country meets so we got sausage. Yeah, so good nice Rindered bear fat right here. Oh, why should that so you can cook with that dark? Yeah, why is it so dark? I don't know That's crazy. Yeah, Clay Newcomb gave me something. Did he okay? Have you ever used it cook to us?
Okay, it's great for searing steaks, you know, just like even beef towel. Yeah, but it gives it a different flavor sure definitely So he did it's like and also like the bear in the spring. They're fat is a little different So it's it just reacts differently for me making the pepperoni and rendering the fat It just reacts a little differently because they've just come out of hibernation up there This is one of the big bear. I just killed and yeah, so it's just perfect timing for I guess rendering fat and making I was watching those videos that Jen was making from bear camp. Yeah, where she smoked that bear for like 24 hours Yeah, so good. All right looking same. Yeah, look like they're like she's like a gourmet chef now with bear
Yeah, and then they had the meat church guy up there this last week Yeah, and so they were like, you know bear meat when you put a whole back ham on the trigger So she she let it soak marinate for four days, right? And I saw people saying oh if you did shoe leather for four days It'd be good whatever. I'm just telling you what it was four days and then 20 hours of a slow cook on the trigger best meat You've ever had it's like incredible. That's bear You know, there's like people talk about the settlers back in the day They would eat bear and just kill deer for hides that's raising to make clothing because bear was superior meat So people have fallen into this trap of like believing that bear meat isn't good and it's amazing Because of yogi. Yeah, yogi fucked us probably yeah, yogi and the one that tells you not to start fires Who's that guy smokey smokey the bear yogi? Yeah, they fucked us. Yeah, they did then Disney Disney fucked us
You know if it wasn't for those anthropomorphizations of animals where they turned them into sweet, you know beautiful creatures that talk to you Yeah, we would have a completely different idea of animals and they're much more realistic idea of animals for sure Which I think most hunters have you love them you respect them But they all have to be managed I said when he comes to video that they got in Santa Monica the other day of a mountain line Someone's backyard big fucker just laying in the grass in this dude's backyard in Santa Monica, man Okay, too much people get annoyed. Oh, yeah, it's good though. That's a jalapeno cheddar. How's it taste? You taste it the one the first one I was hoping your chair. Yeah, it's fucking great. It was really good. Yeah, I know people saying
Oh, you can make anything look at that. That's the cat in the backyard. Oh man. That fucking nuts man. Yeah, fuck you man Fuck you. Yeah, it's uh meanwhile. They built a stupid bridge for them and it's a way over budget
It's over a hundred million dollars now for the stupid fucking bridge so they can crawl We have to make sure that the monsters can get across the highway safety trust I am a completely different opinion I say put one of those fucking big-ass grills on your car like I have my land cruiser Yeah, and let's hope we get a few of them. Yeah, so don't kill people's dogs. Mm-hmm. Look at us right there Oh, yeah, it's 14th assistant knocked on four that is bananas. Look where it is look how dense look how dense the housing is there There's a mountain line right there, and they think a mountain is gonna go find this bridge Well, they probably will eventually find the bridge, but there's a bunch of retards It'll still make their way across the highway and they're supposed to get hit that's nature. Yeah, let's figure it out
Yeah, yeah figure it out. Yeah, yeah figure it out or die. Yeah, there's too many of them They're so unrealistic about their mountain line numbers. Yeah, there's way too many of them They're all over California because they don't manage them. That's what we talked Yeah, we talked about that last time and it's like I just wonder what is you know What's the goal because now I wore this shirt today because now public land is again back in the cross here I don't know if you saw that. Yeah, what is going on this Michael you guy? Yeah, the same guy same fucking guy for he
He's trying to like this is you talk. All right, you talk guy. Um, so right now It's like there's this this bill that was gonna be introduced. It was like talking about wildfires essentially But it's like it's what he's done is he's tied in this public land piece to it Oh, like they always do there's always these other provisions tied into with all these bills, right? And you don't really know what you're agreeing to or what you're not But he put in this roadless area section because there's 400 or 45 million acres of roadless area that he wants access to basically They're not saying this or saying for some other reason. I think oh, here's what they said
We have so many acres of of roadless area that to fight wildfires. We need roads, okay They don't care about fighting wildfires. It's about resource extraction or development, right? Maybe development but development is a tough selling a lot of those wilderness areas But what's not? I tried with this remember the affordable housing. Yeah, like oh just say that's what I'm supposed to be affordable housing
Which like years ago I went back and talked to Jason Jafus. He was he was a representative there in Utah And I went back there and spoke to him and be at that time it was about surplus acreage So there's three million surplus acres nobody's using Someone told me that has something to do with the Mormon religion that the Mormon religion has a philosophy about selling land That's very different than our philosophy. I'm not a public land and I told me that see if there's any Reality to that that the Mormons almost have like a mandate to try to sell land. Mm-hmm. I don't know if that makes any sense I'm this is not my thought someone told me this and I was like wait what and I don't think I ever looked about right?
That I do that too. I'm like I need to look that up and I never do and I never know anything more But yeah, so I went back talk to Jason at that time It was surplus acreage then this time it was affordable housing now this time is wild wildfire fighting Which if you get into the weeds on fighting wildfires, it's there's the natural force Already has ten billion dollars of road work. They need to do on roads that are failing right now So they're saying you're gonna add more roads to the ten billion dollars with a work that the roads already need maintenance on don't think so What they're gonna do is and then also if you make roads this the stats say 85 to 90 percent of fires are started within a half mile of a road So it's not the wilderness areas that are in danger that we need to figure out how to fight fires back there That's hardly any fires back there. It's always about the roads we've created that we can't maintain That's where the fires are starting right because it's usually people it's human cause 90% of the time Is that's only like a small percentage of fires that can be fought here it is some Utah politicians who are members of the LDS Mormon Church have pushed proposals to sell or transfer
Federal public lands, but this is a political movement not an official LDS church program and other Mormon groups openly oppose it So Utah's see more disinformation so much right to feed me Yeah, and I kind of helped spread it right Utah's heavily dominated by federal land 42% of the state is managed by the Bureau of Land Management alone Even more under other federal agencies because so much federal so much of Utah's federal fights over whether retain transfer or sell some of that land is Especially intense there. Yeah, this next part is about my cleavage conservative Utah Republicans such as Senator Mike Lee have proposed budget or legislative plans that would make millions of acres of Western public land eligible for sale arguing it would boost housing or local economies the housing thing is like hey, man Fuck you. You're not putting houses in the mountains. I don't believe you well I think most likely what you're doing is there's natural gas out there or minerals out there or something It's a I mean they don't care about first of all they'd have to build infrastructure out there in the mountains which you know water power It's not gonna happen What is this Wyoming thing says that Wyoming case would have been the first time a registered national historic site was sold into private ownership Which is why it drew attention, but what are they referring to though?
A national store site among Oregon Trail could end up in the hands of private owners at the request of members of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints Oh, so the church tried to purchase public land so down down to that next one it says LDS teachings require strong stewardship and specifically advocate for serving for technical and so okay that goes just politicians like what he's and I think he's like beholden to Trump Trump's like his errand boy for this Public land thing because Trump doesn't give a fuck about public land But his son does this is what doesn't make any sense like is dog just you listen to anybody? I don't know I don't think so to me about psychedelics. Well that okay Is that again with sneaky role this rule amendment? Yeah? Well, maybe if I see him this weekend Well, I will see him this weekend, but maybe I'll talk about that But I don't think there was a there was a sentence in there that I just saw it says 99% right here Not right in the middle 90% of Americans opposed repealing the role this rule. Okay, so
Why they work for us isn't that right? So the reason why I got to this is because you talked about the mountain lions It's like why don't they listen to people like the public the public would say yeah? We probably need to hunt mountain lions keep a man or I don't think the public of California would I'm opposed to that. I'm opposed to the ballot box biology. No, no me too I got wolves in the Colorado, but I'm just wondering like with this this roadless rule They didn't ask the public anything right and 99% of the public oppose it. Yeah, that's way
I would say way more people opposed that than oppose any kind of hunting thing Yeah, I'm good with okay, so on your point then I want biologists making the decision on hunting 100% I don't want politicians making the decision on land use 100% all right, so that's all I'm yeah That's all I'm saying it's like let's have experts in the field decide these things It's like who is expert in the field who decided the White House needs a ballroom But it's like how are these decisions being made like this roadless rule This was like a last minute add on that the public did not get a chance to vote on how is that how is that okay? No, it's not okay It's super fucking sneaky and I think all of our position should be like your t-shirt the Teddy Roosevelt position Yeah, not one acre like we have a amazing system here We do the public land system in the United States is completely unique to the rest of the world It's very different and the fact that you can go out there and that is your land if you were a citizen of the United States of America Public land is your land and you have access to incredible wilderness beautiful places And if you've got the endurance and the ability to go deep in there
You could go to places where there's no fucking people and it's unbelievably pristine wilderness and it's owned by the entire country And we got to keep it that way we can't we can't let that slippery slope Get get into play as soon as they start giving away some of it or selling away some of it They'll fucking keep going it not one acre what once I want you lose something you don't get about ever and this especially with this Public land like at this time when we all came together it was outdoorsmen in all regards. It was hunting hiking fishing Whoever recreators. Yeah, like what it's like people who just love and appreciate public lands We all came together shot it down and the public sentiment was was vicious, right?
And they couldn't ignore it we need the same thing now because at this time I know we did so much everybody came together But when they do these they wear us down with these these last minute deals and add on these things Because it's like how many things can you keep fighting and fighting and you're like I thought we already got this Didn't we solve this already now? It's back. I think that's one of the reasons why they keep somebody fucking balls in the air at the same Time is because you can't fight at all. You know, it's like do you really care about the Epstein files or do you care about you? Have a disclosure. Yeah, I know you have you a piece. We're gonna have a big meeting on Monday
We're gonna have a big release on Wednesday. So so I think they took to me it seems pretty nefarious that they're like Oh, we got all these fucking dipshits worried about this world is rule. Okay, we can distract some of them with aliens got alien stuff Alright, okay. Oh, we could we could we could distract some of them with fighting we got the White House by coming up Okay, that's and now all of a sudden I was way quieter because they've distracted some of these core groups with this other bullshit Right and it's the bread and circus thing and like I kind of agree with Bryce Mitchell who said this that it's not for the White House to be putting on Sporting events. That's not we hire the government to run our country not entertain us true. Yeah, no
I look I don't like it because I think they should be fighting indoors always I think world championship fights at the highest level should be fought in a controlled environment. That's that it's gonna be sick It's gonna be it's gonna be I'm gonna watch I have to like people think oh it's negative again. Nope. I'm not negative I'm not positive either. I don't if it was me if I was running the UFC I would never run the ocean, but if I was running the UFC I would have never wanted to do it Yeah, I would have said we can't do it. They have to be in a controlled environment
We can't have a world championship fight. We can't have someone win or lose because they're outside in its muggy Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me. It's gonna affect the grappling. It's gonna be like hot oil wrestling everyone's gonna be sweaty It's oh, yeah, it's gonna be completely different and also your endurance is gonna be less no submissions going probably gonna happen Well, you know maybe but also you can get under a neck way quicker. Oh, right like your arm through there Yeah, you could cinch up a rear naked choke with someone sweaty. Yeah, you get get it right under the chin
Yeah, that'd be like slides in there, but most grapplers would not prefer that most grapplers would prefer an air conditioned arena Like normal should be fucking 72 degrees Just like it always is you know, it should be air conditioned like it always is but even the controlling the hands because you know Like if you're top or bottom like a big part is like the risk control. Yeah, like if you're sweaty Yeah, that's tough I mean the old days dudes used to lie down in a bathtub filled with baby oil Yeah And then they would wash it off and so then they would you know get warmed up And then when they would start sweating the baby oil would come out of their pores because it's like when you soak in baby oil for hours I'm not accusing any individuals doing this but I know for a fact it happened and guys would be completely greased up Yeah, you could wipe them down with a towel. It wouldn't matter I mean the grease is everywhere. It's in their fucking pores and as soon as they start sweating you try to get a hold of Mrs. Weep it's like trying to hold on to a fucking salmon in the middle of the water They just slip right out of your fingers. Well that happens to if you eat McDonald's all the time
Grease out your pores, so they should try that maybe that'll work I think that affect your performance, but the the sweat is gonna be a big issue the outside the bugs that's gonna be a big issue Oh, yeah Another forecast that's a fucking two o'clock rain three o'clock thunderstorms seven o'clock rain It looks great. Oh by eight o'clock. It's only showers don't be a pussy. Just showers Yeah, maybe they'll cancel it look I think if they canceled it and moved it indoors it'd be better for everybody I don't like it. I think I the idea was like they want the the octagon the White House behind it Yeah for image and everything like that is gonna be dope the card is sick It's a fucking amazing hard the car. I mean it's only seven fights and all of them are bangers from the opening one with Steve Garcia and Diego Lopez
Bam right off the gate. It's like Bowdo nickel and Kyle darkest bam right off the gate I mean it's gonna be a sick fucking car the car is amazing. That does look incredible. That's the lightning catcher that they put over there Yeah, it's gonna be nuts. It's gonna be nuts if it happens But if it rains like crazy, you know, but I mean everybody will love it if it rains all the people who hate it Yeah, rain on those nuggets folks. Oh god. You really are country man. I know it's a very divided time. Oh, it's it's nuts
Yeah, but like I said my Concern is for the athletes Fighters careers very short a loss is devastating and to not have perfect conditions to fight in I think it's crazy Yeah, but it's also gonna be sick. It's like being there's gonna be nuts and maybe it's worth it. I don't know we'll find out Well, you got to hand it to Dana for going big like he always does I mean, you know, they always does he was at the Sphere in Vegas, right? It's like wasn't that was out of the box, but it was amazing. No, that was a one-time only thing That was so much money, but this is a one-time only thing supposedly too But apparently Trump doesn't want to take the octagon down. He wants to leave it up really I don't know man
I'm I think it'd be great have guys like, you know coming in train at the White House for a couple weeks. That'd be the next gimmick I don't know. Fuck it. Yeah, it's just big chaos anyway. It's a crazy time I mean what Biden could have a giant LBGT flag in front of the White House and have trans people pulling their breasts out remember that I know like they had big pride day like a big pride flag in front of the White House I'll take this over that it's like all of it is silly. Yeah, it's also that should have nothing to do with the White House
This should have nothing to do with the White House, right? But you know and then there's a lawsuit right now Trying to suit keep the other way they'll probably lose. Yeah, I don't I'm not a lawyer I don't know but I would imagine they're not gonna win I'm a huge fighting fan UFC fan You know Dana White is like an icon. I love all the fighters. I just love everything about it It's uh, I just you know, I kind of agree with Bryce Mitchell's take on it Which you can get in trouble with agreeing with him because he has a lot of takes but uh, but on this one I kind of get it and um, yeah I mean I don't blame the fighters at all for jumping this opportunity. No, it's like the whole world's gonna watch
It's gonna be probably the most watch sporting event maybe in history. Mm-hmm. I mean It's on Paramount so it'll be on CBS as well, right? I don't know. It'll probably be a little bit on CBS So it's on CBS as well, so it'll be available to everybody and then all the haters gonna watch it too Oh for sure I want to talk shit Yeah, so it'll probably cover it on CNN what a disaster was and they already talked a lot about how I'm not into it Yeah, I have to be honest about what I'm into and what I'm not into I can't just agree with something if I don't agree with it I'll be respectful I'll you know, I'm obviously a huge fan of the UFC and it's always an honor to work for them and I love it But I don't like it, but I'll still yeah when I'm there I'm like, oh, it's a sec. Oh, maybe after it's over like they were right or maybe it'll be like, oh fucking rained
It was what a shit show. Yeah, it was lightning to cancel the fights was a huge disaster for CBS It's live sports is like you never know I mean if they pull the entire audience out and just have the guys fight in the cage under the canopy now, man Yeah, that's a apex now now. I like it now. I like it no crowd just us just me DC and Annika whoo I'd be pretty fine now. I like it now. I like it and you know, we're protected by the rain
But everybody else isn't so they'll have to leave fuck yeah Yeah, cuz I think it's gonna be also a lot of like look at me people gonna dress up nice forehead and like cuz I know They're gonna be on television. Oh, yeah, and it's you know I get it But it's really for me. It's about the fights. Yeah, there's gigantic fights on that car. They just engaged the iliotoporia fight I am very interested in that fight. I'm very interested in that fight
I really wish it was like at the T-Mobile or Madison Square Garden or whatever, but who cares? I that's a fight. I have a lot of questions about yeah I mean Justin's quite a bit bigger, but Ili is so skilled well He is I've watched a whole I've watched his entire career last night Mm-hmm, so there was a UFC put out a video about Iliya saying is Iliotoporia the goat and it goes from his first fight In the UFC to his last victory and you watch every single fight of his career and you watch him get better over time And you know it gets deeper into his career and then you see his last three fights and you're like good Lord Yeah, he was awesome when he first entered the UFC, but he just kept getting better So the use of solofight is the first fight that goes to a decision, you know, and then You watch the progression he starts KO in people his last three KOs over the biggest stars There's some of the greatest of all time max. Yeah Who's all over yeah?
Charles all of the greatest of all times max all the way one of the greatest of all times and then Alexander Bolkinowski the greatest featherweight of all time Like fucking crazy knocked them out knocked all three of them out how that's one of the greatest resumes of all time CBS won't air UFC White House event viewers would need Paramount Plus to watch what happened? Is they back out of it? Oh? Oh, they were not televised it that means you I wonder if like Paramount white decided the plan to tell America story during the show as the Reason CBS would not be involved what the plan to tell America story what does that mean?
We don't want to talk about America's story on CBS no because there's only X number of fights and it starts from the first one white Said we start the beginning of time and like the Mexican Independence Day fight We're gonna have the story of America from the first fight to the last so no they'll all be on Paramount So it's gonna start out with European settlers coming over and giving everyone smallpox And then you're gonna see all the Indians die and then we're gonna go look at all these buffalo because there's no one there to kill them And then we're gonna see people come across on wagon trains and kill each other. It should be fun. Yeah It's gonna be a very accurate story So I'm not the United States started it'll start from back when we fucked up Mexico in like what was that 1861 to get Texas No, what year did they know it's like 1821 wasn't it like that that Mexico own Texas?
We'll start from the beginning. We'll go all the way to buying Alaska for like 50 bucks Yeah, people love it. Why would it be good? It'd be great. Yeah, it's uh, I don't know. It's it's gonna be a spectacle for sure
I'll be tuning in yeah, but I'll be there. Yeah, you're at the White House all the time now. I've been there a couple times Yeah, it's weird. It's very weird It's also very weird because as much as people hate Trump and hate his decisions and hate what he's doing and hate how he talks and I My experiences with him personally have always been fun. Unfortunately. Yeah, unfortunately for everybody else like, you know
If he likes you and you're on his good side. He's a fun guy to be around He says a lot of fun shit the fucking man loves America. He genuinely does He really does like he wants to make the White House look better He wants to build this ballroom because he wants like he has good intentions in terms of America It's just there's not a single fucking person. It's ever taking the job of the president of the United States That's loved by everybody. Yeah, but his the issues that he's having right now is a lot of the stuff that is going on This country is contrary to what people voted for and that's what people are upset about the war the war specifically that I don't You know we voted for protect the border. Uh-huh. They did that. Yeah, it's a
Man or American manufacturing protecting America's interests like with trade with Just protecting people's jobs. So we have a way to work and provide for our family America first that was what that sounded good to me and it feels like this isn't any of that like it feels like even his administration At first I was just like oh fuck these are some this is good But it feels like if you go against him in any way, you're fucking gone Well, it's that for sure and then it's also you know the amount of political pressure You know you have to make deals right so you got the pharmaceutical drug companies that are trying to squeeze this in there and then you got the oil Company is trying to squeeze that the military is trying to squeeze this and there's a lot of compromises that have to be made And that's where things get dark Yeah, because there's people that come in with these ideas that we're gonna fix this and clean that like I've had long conversations with RFK And that guys in struggle all day. It's a battle all day. Yeah, it's dealing with all these pressures and look They've made a lot of headway. They've made a lot of headway with with peptides They made a lot of headway with eliminating some of these
Unnecessary food dies and all these different things that we've been subject to but they lost with glyphosate. Yeah, that was a big one man Glyphosate was a big one I've got a guy coming on who's an expert in it that's gonna talk about it soon And it is the people that are gaslighting you to say it's not an issue We don't really know how much of the health problems that a lot of people have who consume glyphosate ridden products have We don't know how much it's affecting you. What is it taking away from your immune system? What is it taking away from how much is your body processing this fucking toxic herbicide? It's in your system verse. I mean how much of that is contributing to people's health problems
There's a lot of people that think that that's what a lot of this gluten now what you shit is is people just reacting to yeah bromate and pesticides and herbicides But what's that stat with Iowa being the center for Gysophate basically with all the agriculture there and then that's like the hobbit for cancer Yeah, I mean, yeah, you don't have to look very far to see that connection No, you don't know well You know that was also back in the day when people were when people talk about the polio epidemic You can't talk about the polio epidemic without also talking about Spring of DDT all over the fucking country because DDT poisoning has the exact same reaction the body has exact same reaction as polo As a paralytic polo polio polo polo yeah, the disease like there's this woman who wrote a great book on it Suzanne Humphreys is a called dissolving illusions and it's all about that and all about like First of all, they were spraying it behind cars in streets where children were playing and people were getting I remember seeing kids like running through it, but it wasn't just people that were getting polio This is part of the problem with the narrative that it's polio animals were getting polio like animals were getting polio
But they don't get polio. It doesn't spread to animals, but their horses and fucking cows were getting paralyzed They were getting the same symptoms because it's fucking DDT poison. Yeah. Yeah, here's the craziest one What percentage of polio is asymptomatic mean you get it and you have no symptoms? I don't know 95 to 99% really yeah, so it's people have it this it's DDT. Yeah, it's DDT
That I mean look it's not saying that some people that are very sick and immune compromised get polio and get fucked up and die Of course polio is bad that thousands of people die every year from the flu bad, right? Yeah, okay, but you know what else is bad DDT You know it's it's going on when everybody was going through this whole polio epidemic Fuck it's brain DDT everywhere and most people are ignorant to it Yeah, and you bring it up they call you conspiracy theorists, but it's fucking fact. Yeah, it's undeniable Well, I was like you know the controlling the weather I was like that's conspiracy, but then I started seeing the planes like laying in the fucking clouds out Have you seen have you seen it? Yes, and no, okay, so I actually did a show on this you did yes I did it not an episode of podcast I did an episode of Joe Rogan questions everything now that show that I see We did a whole episode on chemtrails and one of the things we felt first of all the reason why it looks like that This is just a fact the reason why it looks like that is there's condensation in the atmosphere You have a hot jet engine. It's passing through this cool air and the hot jet engine and the cool wet air creates clouds Yeah, those clouds are real. It's artificial crowds right also. They spray shit in the air
Yeah, two things are happening. Yeah, cuz you see the normal planes you see the normal jet stream you're like okay Check's out then you see the other ones and it's a different jet stream Yeah, but it doesn't matter the cut the condensation in the atmosphere is inconsistent But they're making just like clouds are inconsistent. You can we watch them today make laps Yeah, but it might not be the same plane. It might just be a route right You're not watching the entire plane go all the way down land and come back. No, no, but you're watching consistent right?
Yeah, that's why it looks like that But it's just days where there's a lot of condensation in the atmosphere dude. I'm telling you listen those planes if you look at a southwest Flight and yeah, they're not spraying okay, but some planes spray shit Yeah, and there are some weather modification experiments. They do they're completely top-secret They don't let anybody know about it. They do cloud seeding they cost floods right what happened with fucking Dubai right? Do buy shit where Lamborghinis are floating down the highway. Yeah, that is people fucking with the environment
That's what I thought was conspiracy before which I don't know no It's real well Abu Dhabi does it every week Abu Dhabi makes it rain every week with cloud seeding and because they're rich Yeah, okay, let me get it. Hey, yeah And so there's there's real weather modification of that's there's cloud seeding and then there's experimental shit Like some of the shit that like Bill Gates was talking about like spraying reflective particles in the atmosphere to block out the sun like hey Fuck face. Yeah, who are you to make a decision for the whole world to pull the world? You didn't even graduate college Shut the fuck up. Yeah, this is crazy and also the unintended consequences of any action that has never been taken before like cooling off the fucking plant What if this dipshit starts the next ice age? Right?
I know I mean get the fuck out of the air leave us alone stop playing God You don't know what you're doing and also do you have any money invested in any these projects for this for sure? This you know we talk about all this stuff, you know, I do not say this for public land I want to say this part of my notes call your senators say you want the roadless rule kept intact say we don't want to get rid of Of the 45 million acres that that are gonna be protected with the road this rule But to call your senators is 202 224 31 21 say say you you want the roadless rules kept intact And we have to we have to let our voices heard our voice were was heard on this not one acre We won that one we have to do it again You have to call your senators and say and just voice your concerns. It's a slippery slope Yeah, you can't let them have any ground but like what I Here's what this thing was really pissed me off because as I said the administration at first I thought okay, we got some we got some good pipe hitters in there it feels like they Do what Trump says if they don't they're gone. They're like they're the scapegoat for whatever failed. They're out of there
You can see the right on the wall like I don't I was I want to told see to get in their kickass Cuz I knew how she felt about the war and I ran and and like that would have how detrimental that would be so I was like I I believed in her and now with her husband getting sick and now she's out of there But it feels like people are it's like if you stand up for something you're gone And now they got this Mark Wayne Mullen in there who just two days ago for this road this rule He unwinded 31 laws that we're gonna protect the public land, right? Just 31 laws He just said yeah those aren't gonna apply anymore because we need to they awarded a 1.7 billion dollar contract to build a wall in Texas that big Bin National Park 1.7 million Billion dollars has been awarded and it wasn't even bid to build this wall in big bin National Park here It's like how the public doesn't want that we don't want to fucking the wall for they're saying for border protection And if you look at like where the border crossings are it's not in the middle of fucking park So what do you think that wall's really for I don't know fucking up national a national park one of the most pristine places in Texas
I don't know what the goal is but have you read into it though? Is there any arguments pro and con that the wall's I'm sure there is I'm sure it's for border protection I mean maybe Jamie can look it up. Yeah, see if there's it's there like a Public input on it again, right? That's a problem and the problem is again. They can come up with reasons Yeah, you know They have to make some new laws because well we got to protect people yeah, and that's how the super slow It was a covid like you know safe and effective protect your communities is like do this for safety What's the same thing?
Trapp administration will bypass environmental laws for border project in Big Bend National Park. So what does it say with the argument for it is? According to preliminary federal notice latest regulatory waiver will apply to more than a hundred miles of us Mexico border So it's a border wall. Yeah from near close near the closed Canyon trail in Big Bend Ranch State Park through the entirety of Big Bend National Park into remote parts of Southeastern Brewster County in the notice Homeland Security Mark Wayne Mullen wrote the administration is bypassing a wide range of laws to ensure the expeditious Expeditious construction of barriers and roads along the southern border while us Customs and Border Protection continues to assist it will not build a 30-foot Tall steel border wall in either the state or National Park the agency's current plans call for a mix of vehicle barriers Surveillance technology and patrol road upgrades in the parks as part of a project dubbed dubbed Big Bend for so this is like not not listening to the experts Again, six former superintendents at Big Bend National Park pendant letter to Mullen urgent. I'm not take such a step So again not listening to the experts just like the ballot box biology
Just doing whatever the fuck they want doesn't matter with the public or the expert things. They're good Thanks, they're gonna do it award these bids to the probably some construction after this guys invested in for $1.7 billion with no bid. It's like how is this how is this okay? Yeah, it's very I don't understand it Is there a lot of crossings in there? No, there's not that's the thing they have where all the crossings happen There's like this tiniest percentage in that park Because it seems like it's probably a very remote area in Mexico that it connects to as well, right?
So it'd be very difficult to get through that way and also if you're gonna get through that way like good lord, right? You're going into what tough country. Yeah, and you know, that's that's good elk country down there. I know people who hunt. Uh-huh What Texas good goals. Yeah, yeah, so it's like I just
I don't know. It's uh, so if you look at the millions of Americans who treasure big bend, you know They don't want construction down there and especially if if we voted on it fine if there's a reason fine But it was never voted on yes as the horrific plans in front of the millions of Americans who treasure big bend Laken, Jordan, an advocate with the center for biological diversity send a statement politicians who've never set foot here are signing a death warrant for this Wild and beautiful place. Yep. Yeah, and that's you know, I've heard somebody, you know pretty close with Trump. Tell me that he's never walked on dirt before Trump's never walked on dirt. He plays golf. That's to walk on dirt grass, baby
That's very mad at the dirt. So not on this course, but the point is it's like somebody who doesn't appreciate public land Uh, they don't give a fuck about this. No, they don't give a fucking they don't they're not gonna see it and they never would see it But there as well same spot. Yeah, look, um, they have to protect the border But if there's not a lot of crossings there and also you want to spend all this money to build a steel board like who's getting the contract Yeah, and just to award that with no bid. It's just not that's not I was a public buyer That's not how it works. You're spending public money
You can't just spend public money without a bid. Right I mean, but they bypass all the shit that has the checks and balance in place to ensure that we're making good decisions with public money They bypass it all and then you know who suffers here It's a people who don't have like some people they go to the park for mental health. They want to go camp They want it's like they might not have two nickels to their name, but they're appreciating nature That's why public land is so important because that gives purpose to people like me who's like I gotta get out of this Shithole city and go recharge, right? So for people who don't appreciate that or care about that That's wasted land. It's like we could have a shopping mall. We could have investors doing this
We could have make this work because right now they would say that well not everybody can Take advantage of this because you have to hike you have to do these things so we want to make it more accessible So more people can enjoy it. No, yeah, that's not how it works. You're gonna fuck it up Yeah, you can't just have helicopter landing plaids all over the fucking woods. There's there's your yeah There's your contract spike in border wall spending goes mostly to two firms with GOP White House ties construction contracts including two point six billion dollars awarded this week Are being awarded to at a historic scale through a streamlined process that could put Trump on track to realize his vision for a border wall? Yeah, see that streamline process. Oh that was bypassing 31 laws and
So what's there now? Like what is the border now between Mexico and the United States in that area? Is it just land like you just walk right across? It's probably the river. What is it? What is the border? Can we find that out Jamie?
Okay, let's look at the map. Okay. Yeah, let's see what the map looks like Okay, let's say so that's where it is So is that the river that blocks it? The whole bottom of the border, right? That's not that hard to get across that river that one well I mean people aren't gonna go there to cross. That's crazy. What a beautiful. It's amazing. God. It's so beautiful. No, they're not going there to cross
Where's the most border crossings? For a while it was like where they had that road where there's a little bit more border crossings are in actually in Arizona Really? Yeah, I'm almost positive. So I'm sure Jamie's gonna find it here. I'm asking you how many happened through big bed national parks Yeah, find that one Dirty just stop them. 84 billion dollars. Yeah, it's just like
I don't know just stuff like this. So what happens is like you get distracted with the israel the bombing of the girl's school the Epstein files And then they do shit like this. Okay, the only official border crossing inside big Ben national park is the bochias port of entry and it sees on the order of about 10,000 legal crossings by visitors per year plus a relatively small number of unauthorized crossings compared with other parts of the us Mexico border What exists in big Ben big Ben national park shares about 118 miles of border with Mexico along the Rio Grande The only legal port of entry actually inside the park is bochias crossing small pedestrian only crossing to the bechias del Carmen Mexico National Park Service information and travel videos describe bochias as handling roughly 10,000 visitor crossings per year. Yeah, those are mostly all legal so 734 Border patrol sector sees only a fraction of total southwest border crossings one report cited 334 people documents crossing in that sector by more than 27,000 along the entire us Mexico border in a given period and like what year was that where it was?
734 was that before they shut down the Border was really crazy. How many people came in the country? Oh, I know the fact that over four years It's north of 10 million and I've talked to people to think it's 20 Wow, it just shows those out of the 27,000 but doesn't say they're illegal so it's not a hot spot across the last the last slide there said It's a smallest fraction is illegal of that 734 those were like total crossings in that area a smallest fraction was illegal So it's no it's not it's BS right it's BS and they're just gonna do it because they got a nice contract and they want to wall beautiful Well, yeah, but why in the national park no The Washington Post reported last week the skyrocketing border wall contracts now totally more than 19.4 billion in the last six months have mostly gone to Bernard and Fisher that's prompted a lawsuit against Trump administration from a would-be rival Border wall builder who claims that the government doled out billions in contracts without genuine competitive opportunities. Yeah, that's illegal
I mean, but that's what they're doing. Yeah No bueno no and so but but as I was saying they distract us with all this other stuff and push through shit Like it's like who knows what a Senate with the senator houses voting on on a fucking Tuesday Well, it was this public land thing. You know, just added in in the middle of the night We have no no say on it We're distract with all this fights at the UFC with Israel doing whatever the fuck they're doing And it's like oh, we just lost all this public land to and it's like it's impossible to keep up on That's what's frustrating. No, it's not frustrating. There's bear me. It's pretty far. I'm good. Yeah, that's that's a man
That's legit, but what okay, so that's what can be done. This bill hasn't passed right? No now It's gonna go to this in it. So is in the house this and then here's what here's a problem So this was originally this Roadless rule is bipartisan everybody agreed. Let's protect this now with Mike Lee adding this language in there now It's turned now there's lines in the sand and nine Republican senators voted with the Democrats on this to allow this the roadless rule to be in there So now it goes to the full Senate now they're gonna need whatever the percentage is six I think 60% of a full Senate vote for it to pass so we'll see So now the scumbag lobby is getting involved. Yeah, they start pressuring people and help me
You do this and I'll do that to help me here when they get overwhelmed because of switchboards of people call that 202 number Like I said then that makes it to everybody and what's that number again? 202 224 341 say you want to keep the roadless rule intact? You don't want to sell off public lands? You don't want to this is all BS But they do this and yeah, the lobby is get involved and what happens is like what happened at the big beautiful bill Is this part was in there and Trump wanted it in there? But it's causing such a friction He was just like I want my big beautiful bill passed these guys are fucking it up with this public land stuff pull that out Let's get this through so they did they pulled out this we saved the public land Who knows what we lost that that was also attached but anyway?
We save public land at that time. They're gonna for affordable housing same thing has to happen here He's got this language added into the shit. They're already working on that changes You know, we've had we've had this in place for decades and it's worked right so we have to say no We're not down with this and they have to pull it out again. Well, I hope we can get it through push it You got it up on social media where people can yeah, I will for sure, but it's like You know, it's this is so important because it's so important to people without a voice So it's like I feel sometimes like how did I get in this position? I know you do too like where you're at the White House She's like how the how the fuck could somebody like me earn this opportunity right?
You've earned it through decades and decades of work of being curious of being fair of being positive of caring and now people want to Come on and share their thoughts with you that gives you a platform You've created the most powerful voice probably in the world at sometimes and so you get invited to the White House and I know Like for me, I know they've used me there before like yeah, I created value in myself They invited me there for Veterans Day and I said no, I'm not going because I don't fucking agree with this war in Iran I don't agree with all this shit I don't want to go and have a picture in the fucking White House so people could be like see see you you fucking you're part of this You know because we did we thought that Trump was the best option at the last election I did I have a hundred percent believed he was better the things he might still have been the best option He might be but and that's fine. No, what would it happen? No, the Kamala Harris administration and this continuation of the Biden administration I don't want people coming in the border unchecked by the millions. I didn't want that I didn't want you know the celebration of transgenderism I have no problem with transgender or cross-dressers or I've no problem or gay or anything like that
I just don't want it promoted just crazily to our youth. That's it. I don't want youth getting Surgery that their parents don't know about because they can't have a say in and out I don't I don't want any of that so of course I'm gonna vote for Trump, right? Now I don't like any of this shit So I have that my right is to say no I'm not down with this and I'm not going to the fuck I'm not gonna be in your picture at the fucking White House so you can use it and all the people who listen to me would be like Oh fuck you want to go for was it was a day and what was the premise of having you there? I don't know, but but you're not a veteran so what was the premise? It's only because I have a big platform
So they're gonna celebrate Veterans Day at the White House and they just said let's get some famous people probably I mean it's you don't remember the Epstein files where all the influencers had the binder well was Pam Bondi Yeah, but and there was but there's a few other influencers But they use they they can use people like us for their messaging Uh-huh and then they invited me back again after now I've been pretty critical of this administration just because I care and it's like I don't have to agree with fucking lock step With the person I voted for that's our right as citizens to be like I voted for that But I don't agree with this and I'm not happy about this and I want you to know that's that's our right as voters What they invite you back again for this was back it was for public land thing and I'm like Yeah, I'm down for it, but I just know I had this kid on Benji backer He's like has this page is nonpartisan something for outdoors But I did this show with him and there was a you know bringing different people into debate public land or like to share Why we care about public land coming from different places, but it's all important to us. I did the show with him Well, he went I had him on the podcast He talked about his how he's working hard to protect public land
He went back and Trump signed an executive order something about public land and all it was was a pomp and circumstance Photo-wob to get executive order. Nothing has happened to it. Nothing has happened with it. No actions been taken It was like all it was was just they can make a press clipping out of it theater and nothing's gonna change nothing changes Nothing's protected. So that's what I feel like a lot of these times if I get invited there It's for that is to is to make my base if I have a base I don't have a politician but to make my people like feel a little better about whatever's going on and Understand that's how it works. You want powerful people on your side, right?
I'm not saying I'm powerful, but I have a pretty big following I just I just I went back there because there's a huge honor like the few times that I've been back there and it's amazing It's like being in the White House somebody like me should never be there But I've created value in my name in some ways that I get that opportunity but that opportunity comes with a price So now I have to think about am I true to what I believe in by showing support for this and now is too There's too much for me that I'm not happy with it. I can't ignore it personally So that's I feel like they use they use they use opportunities like that for you know for press Well, though It seems like there's so many different people that want a piece of the pie and if there's these giant contracts for border walls and giant Contracts for this. It's just such an incentive to do things that people don't want Or what about the military drones those contracts when this war started that's you can look into who made money on that one who made money on that one?
Should we look it up Jamie drone military contract? Let's see who made money. I don't say but you know, huh? Okay, well, I don't know so I'm gonna be surprised yeah, so maybe maybe not but like when you follow the money It makes a lot of sense of course when you follow us when you follow a pack you're like why is this politician always pushing this shit? Where they get their money? Oh, I know this guy back home. He's running for like this local politician things
Adam he's like he goes I don't junior what what Jamie? What did you find wait a minute? What did you are you this has got to be a mistake where did Eric and Don Jr. Invest in military drone company amid Iran war? Isn't Jamie? Where'd you find this seems like propaganda from Iran or something is that a cartoon or Iran's cartoon?
Propaganda again No, but so anyway you start I was talking about this local guy back home and he said that he goes I need to call Israel he goes it is so hard to get money for like to run as a in whatever just a local election But you go to a business. They say yeah here. I got 18 dollars. I can contribute right where so you see these big politicians You see how much money they're getting it's like wait. What's this a pack thing? Why did they get millions? Oh?
Then you start wondering how they're voting on things. You're like just making a lot more sense It's like where's the money coming from yeah, they have to take all that out of politics I don't know how you could at this point But when you can influence politicians and influence who gets promoted to be voted for who gets put out into the public eye I know in a great light in a positive light and then you realize that there's just all this money from corporations to get this Person in or from other foreign countries to get this person in or from lobbyists get this person in you like wait But that why that's not serving us. No, it's like what how do you stop that when did okay? Here's a big question when did Money officially become a problem in politics. I know that's a very broad question But put that in perplexity and see what it says citizens United thing was a big deal But I think it was 2012 what thing is that citizens united citizens united? No, it's 2012
That changed a lot, but it was always a problem before that and there was always been like when did corporations become a real problem? Like when did a pack become a problem? When did when did a pack form and when they start donating to American politicians? Yeah, it's a first of all. I don't think any foreign government anyone connected to foreign government should have any influence whatsoever I've heard our politicians say their loyalty is Israel Directly start donating to us political candidates until 2022 fucking Jesus So I if I don't I mean if I remember correctly Trump didn't take any money from Israel his first election and now he just gave an Award to somebody you see who just gave an award to give an award what kind one of big ones nice ones They put around your neck and stand there in the Oval Office yep who contributed to just one Olympics who contributed 250 million to his last election Oh, so do you want an award? That's how much you gotta pay for a good. I don't really want to wear
I wouldn't know what to do with it anyway, so to me that so you said like if 2022 I would imagine a pack what is around I would if I didn't know that actually but when I look at like if you look at Thomas Massey He got in the cross hairs of the president for whatever reason right? He got they had a candidate They wanted him to lose to and he did he did lose Yeah, so here's the thing we'll get that in a second Citizens United decision is widely seen as having created serious problems in US politics by vastly increasing the role of big money and reducing Transparency and so this was what you're jammy. I want to say it was 2012 2010 2010 so 2010 Supreme Court decision further tilted. Yeah tilted political influence towards wealthy donors and corporations That's when we got fucked. Yeah, I think that's gonna start treating corporations like a person and gave them rights in somewhere That was a moment see that second bullet point super charge packs which can take a limited contribution from what the donors So that's how they control the elections right there and that was the Obama administration dark money dark money from groups
Don't fully disclose donors have exploded voters often cannot see who's really funding major political campaigns So we need to just fucking tune the way back machine to 2009 But even then like 2009 is after they bailed out the fucking banks. Yeah 15 years later citizens united defined the 2024 election. Yeah, there it is. Yeah, it's a slippery slope Yeah, so I don't that's like Ruth Ginsburg right there called it the worst ruling over time on the court Whoa overwhelming majorities of Americans have consistently expressed disapproval of the ruling with at least 22 states and hundreds of cities voting to support a constitutional amendment to overturn it Citizens united reshape political campaigns and profound ways giving corporations and billionaire funded super PACs a central role in US elections and making untraceable dark money a major force in politics and yet it may only be down in the aftermath of the 2024 election We could be to understand the full impact of the decision and it's perfect to because citizens united So this is like a language they used to do us like oh citizens united. This is good, right?
Yeah, or like an Oregon that the hunting thing it's called the peace act. Oh, yeah So talk about that because that one's bonkers. Yes, this is not so this is the same thing It's just it's follow the money if you want to know why we're so fucked up follow the money So the IP 28 this is a crazy thing they want to here's where I just explain Oregon real quick Oregon is like a petri dish for these crazy ideas for these political ideas like if you think of Legalizing recreational drug use, you know, we did that in Oregon like heroin math. You can have that it's fine It's whatever I think they turn that back right but they tried it to see how it worked in Oregon Yeah, it didn't work out so well, right now This is another crazy one, but they tried it in Oregon because it's very we got a huge liberal population in Portland and Eugene and some of them But not just liberals retard. Yeah, they're there more than just because I'm friends with liberals for sure They're gone. They're at the far end of the political spectrum on the left for sure full-on communists. Yeah, socialists
No meat everyone should be a vegan they want everybody to get bitten by that tick Yeah, I mean so much talk about that too. We'll get to that a minute But I'm so the law the new thing the bill they're trying to pass between and van van first of all Was it was it the mate who was the governor of Washington? Which which governor was it Oregon or Washington that tried to make it so that you have to have a fucking license to paddleboard? Oh probably Washington I would say fucking imagine yeah telling someone that they have to have a license to paddle a fucking canoe Yeah, well you have to pay the state money to have a license to paddle a fucking canoe They also made it like during covid like some guy was out fishing by himself in the lake I think he got a ticket guy got arrested when he was surfing right himself in California, right?
So you get sick out there in the middle of the ocean It's just silly, but this IP 28 they bill it as you know on there So they'll do this thing like go up to get these votes They needed 117,000 votes to get this on the ballot so to get 117,000 people to sign your petition Basically all I said was stop animal cruelty all I have to do is go to Portland and visit one homeless shelter to say hey You want to stop animal cruelty right? Okay? Yeah, I love animals. I love animals too. Oh, we sign this So they didn't tell you that it's making you know, you can't fish you can't hunt you can't raise animals like Like our chickens you can't raise backyard chicken ranchers just like even ranchers sell beef you can't do it They're making it like even the breeding of animals like we breed cows or breed horses There's stud fees there's different things it makes better race like like a race horses But there's also better product for for beef, right?
So we control like when a when a cow goes in heat when he gets bread things like that That's part of like being a rancher well They want to make that like because the cow didn't agree to it. It's like rape It's like sexual assault like you can't control when animals breed so that takes away ranching There is no ranching right so they want to make it to where they're not gonna make eating meat illegal But if people can't raise it you're buying it from some other state at a higher price if you're eliminating ranches and or Yeah, so it's killing the whole industry crazy and they could say that like even if you if you heard an animal I don't know what like you could get charged with assault. So this is they want every animal treated like your family patter dog oh And but the thing is chicken for food you go jail Yeah, yeah, I was wondering like if you know how you're driving a car and like sometimes a bird flies in front of you Right, you're arrested for that that but you're responsible for your vehicle you killed that squirrel So this guy who would introduce this this is the third attempt at doing this he knows He's not gonna get the vote cuz how will work to get on the violet they take six percent of the votes cast in the last governor governor election
So six percent of the last votes casted so it's a small number, but it's 117,000 Didn't get that many by just saying stop animal cruelty now goes to the ballot But he knows this is his third time He knows this isn't gonna pass but it's like it just tells him what they need to work on what language They need to change it's all part of this long-term process to get hunting and fishing stopped right because I think like in general The government they like consumers. They don't like people being too Self-sufficient they like him relying on that this is another step like if we can get rid of ranchers hunting and fishing Don't need the guns don't need to be killing stuff Then you're just like we'll provide the meat for you bill Gates owns all this land you talked about bill Gates before him making decisions on shit He doesn't anything about he dropped out of college, but did you say he dropped out of college or yeah?
So it's a it's they want to be able to control who's who's providing the food who's making the money what type of food it is You know, it's like it goes back to the whole WC things like you will own nothing and be happy It's like that's they want these smart cities working towards that to where no You don't need to be a badass hunter anymore. We got it right and they use these nutty progressive people is just useful Idiots, right that's all it is and then you get a bunch of people that are pushing money packs that are pushing money towards these people to Fund them to push these wacky ideas, right? Why would they do that? Well, that's why they do that Because they want you depending on them right and this is part of this process where it doesn't happen overnight And this thing won't won't make it into law for sure, but they'll see where they're at this will be like, okay?
Here's where we're at here's what we need to change on our messaging. Here's where the biggest pushback was and they adjust where Can we do that on the other side? It's like I know there's there's farming or aunties or organizations, but like it's it's a money It's like who's giving these people the money. It's usually coming from out of state and they have more money and they're more Organized than people who are working because when you're a rancher you're fucking working all the time You know, you can't go get signatures and shit. Yeah, you got work to do these fucking these environmental people that are just crazy like extremists They get paid for doing this so it's like that's how that's their job You know a rancher has he has a job and it's very hard He doesn't have time to go out and talk knock on doors That's a really fucked up part is a lot of these people that are these protesters and these organizers That is their job And that's hard for people to really understand and until you listen to people like Mike Benz where he breaks down how NGOs work And yeah, they fun things and the fact that like most of these things are a fucking scam most nonprofits are a fucking scam
I mean, it's hard for people to wrap their head around that because you think of nonprofit like oh my son works for a nonprofit Oh, he must be a good guy. Yeah, he's like trying to help He's and maybe he is a good guy Maybe he starts out a good guy But then you're corrupted by the system that you realize I go no the nonprofit is essentially about supporting the nonprofit Yeah, most of the money goes to the supporting of this organization the overhead the structure all all the infrastructure all the people working there They all get paid very well Yeah, and then a piece goes to whatever the fuck it is the people starting them the nonprofit will be like, okay first I'm gonna need this much money. Oh, you wanna be my VP. I can count on you I mean you're gonna make this much money. So that's what happens and then whatever's left is like that's their You know that they can't write off. That's what they contribute. Yeah, um what I see this
Oh, this is another one that I saw about nonprofit hospitals. Do you know that nonprofit hospitals are the most profitable? Yeah, yeah for sure They can just hide that money they charge crazy amounts for that Non-profit are the most profitable. Yeah, so this whole idea is it's all just bullshit It's most of what you think of as like philanthropy is really like the Bill Gates stuff. Yeah, there's a great book called What is the name of the book? I read this book controller garks, and it's all about how a lot of these guys they?
Realize that they're having public image problems like particularly Bill Gates like during the antitrust lawsuits with Microsoft Yeah, then he pivots to this bill in the Linde Gates Foundation where it's all about philanthropy But they're philanthro capitalists all the different philanthropy ventures are extremely profitable like he made five hundred million dollars Allegedly off the covid vaccine off of his investments and this vaccine didn't even fucking work. Yeah, I think Trump got paid paid with that too But it's like a yeah, it's you know the money thing. I don't know the citizens are regular citizens are the ones that pay the price for the Yeah, it's dark and so here it is put your heads on real quick Listen this guy talk about Congressmen recently described some nonprofit hospitals as hedge funds with hospital beds Person say that nonprofit hospitals were like hedge funds with hospital beds And I was like I bet they are what's going on here because in the United States more than half of our hospitals are nonprofits But the hospital world doesn't feel very non-profity And that read this article by Scott Hodge and then Washington Post that talked about how they need to be taxed And it turns out that the total revenues of nonprofit hospitals in America in 2023
So three years ago was 1.3 trillion dollars And it turns out that they're getting a bunch of taxpayer money in fact three years ago So this is probably a lot more now nonprofit hospitals were making forty five billion dollars worth of profit And as I mentioned we taxpayers give them a bunch of money in fact in 2021 We gave them 38 billion dollars 11 and a half billion dollars of it because they don't have to pay any taxes And that was five years ago So this is probably more like 60 billion now And the reason that we hypothetically give them this money as taxpayers is because they're supposed to do charity But there was a study that looked at almost 1500 nonprofit hospitals and found that 86% of them provided little or no charity And that's because almost everybody that goes to hospitals has insurance is either private health insurance or insurance from the government Only three percent of people don't have health insurance and it's not like the hospitals give them a deal It turns out that the government was checking this out around 2009 the hospitals spun up a lobbying campaign and got any requirements They would basically define what kind of charity they would have to do squashed So now it's kind of the honor system So I was like where are those billions of dollars going that the nonprofit hospitals make in profits turns out it goes to executives like these CEOs Who are getting paid about four and a half million dollars a year meanwhile their nurses make about 70k four and a half million a year here
Apparently management consultants getting billions of dollars from nonprofit hospitals And here's a guy Robert at a hospital in New York who paid himself fifteen point three million dollars a year Nonprofit hospital and there are really good nonprofit hospitals that are primarily funded by donations and serve low-income families and people Need like St. Jude or like the Shriners, but it looks like about 86% of these nonprofit hospitals get 50 or 60 billion dollars from US taxpayers Like you and me because they're supposed to do some form of charity, but they paid off the government So they don't have to really do charity and some of their CEOs are $15.3 million a year while we subsidize them with like $50 billion. Do you think this is right? I saw this is P Davis Jones on Instagram Motherfuckers, so it's like it's again. It's just like the UFO thing. It's there's there's so much to pay attention to this so much fucking fraud
And there's so much cat this is what Elon told me when he started looking into the doge stuff It's impossible to describe the amount of fraud Yeah, he's like it's insane That's what Nick Shirley found in Minnesota when he went to investigate the daycares and also found in California with hospice care centers There's entire motels where every room was supposed to be in office for some fucking nonprofit and they're all just siphoning money So it's madness so that's like that's what it makes money regular people like me like what's the answer? It's like what's the point to all this alien? Meanwhile, I'm paying out my ass and taxes for shit like this. Yeah, and or for war It's like yeah, all of its gross. Yeah, every single yeah I mean what we're gonna have to have is some sort of like radical transparency Where all this stuff gets exposed and gets exposed like probably with some AI program and no one's gonna want to turn that on Right, then never gonna want everyone to know exactly how much fraud and how much fucking terrible management They've done with our money. Oh, like the Pentagon's never passed an audit once not one zero and you look at it
You're gonna jail for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How much we're in debt all the shenanigans. They do with the public money is just like that's over exaggerated
We're only in debt thirty nine trillion dollars. That's not a big deal. Isn't that crazy? The thing is they can just print thirty nine trillion. It's done. Yeah, pay it off. The reason why they don't is because they have really good control
Oh god, you're doing a great job. It's a one thing on this hunting thing I do have to give credit to Dan Gates and how it's like they've done a good job in Colorado like fighting this is like been We've won a few things there. They tried the same thing with Oregon and Colorado the same kind of thing Well, no what Dan is doing? He's he's got out there initiative 302 and it's gonna make hunting and fishing in Colorado constitutional right Okay, so hopefully that you know how these just like this this lobbyists and this IP 28 They're seeing what works and what they can get away with and kind of planning for the future Well, if Dan is successful with this initiative 302 passing that will be like how we can address this in the future to protect Onion and fishing because if you can go through there, this is like the litmus test for it then okay Maybe we can do this in other states So like this is a big one coming up there working on right now But I mean we have to we just have to get more savvy politically to when they're doing shit like this We have to be more in tune, you know an educated on it Such a bummer though because like the people that I know like Mike Benz that do this all day I do not envy him I mean Mike Benz makes these live streams where he's just exposing and they last for hours
Yeah, it's gonna go through them all well and I know you're supposing all these different companies be nice be positive We didn't do any of that. How do you how do you talk about this? It's hard in a nice and positive way It's very very difficult very especially because these are real problems Last last on my lit well, I don't know what's up on the list, but uh, oh I do want to talk about this book one. I want to shout out Ryan Callahan from back country hundreds and anglers You know, okay, sure sure great guy buses asked for this shit Martin Heinrich, which is he's a senator there in New Mexico He's I think he's a Democrat. I don't give a shit about Democrat Republican Whoever he just fights for public lands and he's a badass and then also run white in there in Oregon who normally I probably never agree with anything On because you know, she's different, but he is he does get I want I want to give those guys credit for trying their best to protect and fight against His public lands sell off and Mike Lee and this energy resource committee Which is you know that there'd be holding to a different set of values usually some money related and these guys are kind of fighting for the guys
Like us who just enjoy being on the mountains, so you'd be in positive Yeah, I just wanted to tell those guys are doing great, but I Was gonna bring this up. This is like the whole scandal. I've been involved with recently Which is it feels like a lot for me, which I don't like but I my point on it is I feel like Well, let's explain the scandal before you get into that so you won the Oregon marathon in your age category Yeah, and then someone started complaining because you had taken BPC 157. Yeah, which is a banned substance Yeah, you would take for people that don't know as ridiculous as it sounds can broke its foot like two years ago You broke your foot like two years ago, and you never got it fixed so all these miles you've been running you've been running with a broken foot and You went to waste well. They treated your foot with stem cells and they injected BPC 157 into your foot to help help your foot heal Um, is it healed now as the bone? Yeah fused up. Yeah, what did it do? Just grew back? Yeah, finally
It took a while because I didn't stop running and I look like now in an extra it's like kind of the bonus It was a big break like a pretty wide break Which is why the surgeon didn't know if it was gonna build the bones can build make it across her because I kept like moving it and and he told me he's like, you know with this This is I just had the same surgery done on my thumb where the the ligament pulls a piece of the bone off and breaks it Right, so your ligaments intended very strong the bone fracture So what happened here is I fell and I was doing a race and and basically shredded my ligament broke this bone So they had to hope that the bone was big enough to go attach it back to where it broke from because bone on bone healing is much Better than ligament to bone is that quicker, right? So we need a piece that bone well in my foot They said he didn't know how big that piece I broke off with so there's a chance that it wouldn't reattach through surgery So which means he'd have to take a ligament back to it It's called a Jones fracture some outside of my foot and hope it it connected But that would be like stretching that ligament beyond where it's supposed by design
So it probably changed the function of your foot it would change the dynamic of my foot and how my foot and I run I have a good stride I run well and I'm and he said there's no guarantee that this will attach like it should or that you know You need another surgery if this doesn't work and then another one to get the hardware out So I'm just like I really don't want to do two or three surgeries Let's see if we can try other treatments less invasive if I can just deal with this pain for long enough with my foot heal and it has So I was like very interested in not getting the surgery based on you know He's a renowned surgery does all the surgeries on the Oregon football team He's a stud trust totally trust him, but I heard what you saying about like hey There's no guarantee this is gonna work perfect and I took that to heart so I did you have the injury how long ago it was June 16th of 2024 Okay, yeah quite a long time ago, right? So basically the solid two years Yeah, so I went in and I dealt with it for I mean it hurt for a long time I just didn't want to stop living you know and I'm like okay if it's just pain I have a very high pain tolerance I don't care. I'm gonna block that out and just do what I do so I did I did everything I did all my hunts I did races and it was terrible and but I made it I made it through in my foot's healed
But so broke it in June went into waste well I think in July went back in November which is when I got that stem cell back in it and When they put in the BPC there that that one time in November and So that was like that was a thing and all I said, you know, I had a very fast Eugene marathon time for me I'm healthier than now that I've ever been I've retired. I've done more specific training all these people You know, I've been labeled as like a doper right like almost like Lance Armstrong Well, you've been labeled by one very specific person that is a professional runner who's also a vegan and has been very vocal about you in an anti-hunting way So he's got that and and you're also your time. You're running time He's is he 18 years younger than you yes, and your running time is very similar to his his last marathon Yeah, and your running time of this year's marathon which you won your age class is Quicker than last year's by quite a bit. Yeah, what people don't understand is last year your fucking foot was broken I didn't run last year because I was hurt so it was quicker than like the year before right was your foot broken then no
No, okay, so your time is quicker now than it's ever been before after recovering from your broken foot Yeah, and that's amazing. It's but how much quicker 10 minutes? It was my best time was in my very best time was in 2006 me and Lance Armstrong we did the New York marathon I didn't even see him during this one, but I ran to 50 like 21 in New York I ran to 50 quite a few times like Boston with when I ran with last in 2008 I did rent 250 again and that's when we finished together and You know what true and I were talking about this to just the other day because true of my son He's going for the Olympic trials qualifier in the marathon Which means he needs to run quicker than a 216 so we were talking about this and it's just my training and even his training because I'm not a coach and I don't know I just run to get a shape for ball hunting Okay, I don't I'm not a pro But and I had him run and he's very talented, but I didn't know how to coach him either So he hired a real coach and when you start getting into this marathon training and specifics of it and why you do certain certain exercises and why There's certain stimulus from I mean, I just had the winner of the G marathon on my podcast and we did a really fast run
We ran a 506 mile which I had never done at mile seven of an eight mile run and then he said okay I'm I his name's Jack's said all he's like an amazing athlete has 1400 followers Which is kind of crazy that this amazing talented people have a small amount of following but their talent is incredible So he wanted I ran with him just the other day and he said oh I need to do eight 100 beater strides Which is simply essentially sprinting after we ran super hard eight miles climb 3000 or 2000 foot mountain and Did this fast pace, but he still had to get the stimulus needed for what he's asking his body to do which is qualified for the Olympics, right? So the stimulus is what I've never done before I've never got on the track and did it all I ever did was just go run I just run so what I do is like how do I move this needle in the right direction in a positive way?
I got to put in work how I put in work was I go run mile after mile after mile some days 20 miles a day because I felt like that was a Noble sacrifice for me and for achieving what goals I wanted which was bo hunting related not not racing related Well with Truett taking on this Olympic trials qualifier journey He's he's been doing the stimulus hired a coach and like hey dad you need to do this type of stuff You know you get on the track you wouldn't think you need to go and track to run 26 miles quick But you do because you need the stimulus for your body. I had never done any of that I had never got enough sleep I would sleep you know if I was gonna do a marathon a day and still be at work 10 hours a day I'd have to get up at start at 2 45 a.m. And I did and sometimes I wouldn't go to bed until midnight I didn't care about sleep you'd have met dr. Matthew Walker on here. I'd say fuck that dork I'm not listening to sleep. I don't need sleep. I can still perform look it
I just ran 26 miles yesterday on two hours of sleep But I wasn't performing at my best because I had to overcome my body fatigue So for decades I would work didn't miss a day of work in 26 years never called in sick once Always get my miles in always get my work done. I was leading the cruise people relied on me to be a good leader I had to be there. I'd still put in this work. I would not get any sleep My body was so depleted. I still did everything I needed to do at the highest level I could turns out the highest level I could given those circumstances was a 250 marathon all right So I required three or I mean I retired three years ago now. I'm getting sleep now. I'm doing sauna cold puns
I get you know, I spend let's see spend 2,000 bucks a month on massage and body work And now with more specific training like last year I ran with Truett he ran 2 38 and Boston 2 34 And Eugene we want to run right before that he said dad I can't keep up with you You you should be going for the sub 2 30 straight. He was from a break 230 he goes You should be going for the sub 230 you're you're faster than me. So this is last year But then I got hurt so last year I was gonna break this same record this year I've been healthy I knew I was gonna get my fastest time ever I put up a post and I said PR ER I'm either getting a personal record. I'm going to the emergency room. I'm sending it So I said PR ER and I got a PR I got 239 11 one of the fastest ever for a 58 year old and it's like that caused people to pay attention Which I get it's a very fast marathon for somebody almost 60 years old But you have to look at the full picture and say like this wasn't some just guy who just started running been running I've been running since I've five years old. I'm 58
I was running pushing myself at five running further than any other kid in school winning in awards That was 53 years ago. Okay. I've been doing this while I haven't been training specifically because I didn't care And so this guy said oh Have you know, he's like mad that I was so fast. He's talked shit about true it I don't I'm trying to be nice and positive. So I'm not gonna say his name I'm not gonna I understand people who want to protect clean sport. I applaud you Sada. I applaud Wada. I applaud clean sports
I love it. It's it's it's required for the Olympic athletes to get their just do For me, he said, you know, he's talked shit about true Which he's already on my radar because I remember true it said hey There's the elite guy who's saying that I'm dishonoring the marathon because I have no chance of getting the standard and You know, I said who and he said that dishonoring the marathon because he was saying like true so far away from his time That it was unrealistic to even put that as a goal My my point was he's a runner just like you he has a big dream just like you had why shit on his dream Somebody says that this dream. They want to do it. You're gonna be dishonorable to have a lofty ambition That doesn't even make sense. That was just words. The words are associated because he's my son. So that's all the amount of two
But he was on my radar for that because true told me and I said who and I hadn't didn't even really know who it was looked Him up. I'm just like now fuck whatever. So anyway, I knew the name well He comes on my page after this and he says something like he dug up this old post from like 2011 Which is still up there and it talked about the shit I was taken from is like complete nutrition Which is like GNC and it was you know, if you go to GNC like, you know Mass gainer 2000 so like everything seems like it's a steroid. It's over the counter It's not fucking steroids. You can't buy steroids of the counter everything that on that thing that I was doing us Spons by complete nutrition all over the counter supplements. It's like there's no fucking EPO on here
It's like what these people try to make it sound like it was just shit that I was lifting weights This is from 15 years ago 2011. It's a blog post. He still has it. Yeah, like I said praying around like a trophy It's like fucking over the counter whatever so He said I said are you still talking about that? This is like late at night. I was kind of irritated
Didn't got irritates me anyway. So he said could you pass a you sawed a drug test? And I said I have no idea has nothing to do with me I don't give a fuck probably not though because I I didn't actually I didn't even know but I know it's very restrictive And I've had a lot of Olympians and things on my show. We don't talk about the drug test stuff We're just like we just go running well what stuff would you take had you taken that wouldn't allow you to pass a drug test? Um that stuff you're taking out like what supplements can you not take?
There's a lot of stuff that people just take normally that you can't take well sides are one of them, right? I certain peptides. I think you can take certain ones, but I don't even know because I just I had never looked at the list I tried to with this when this came up. Well, this other thing is a lot of people fail just by taking supplements because there's third party There's contamination. Yeah, that's what happened in Shukashana Mallie. Yeah, Austrian
It's happened to you know a lot of athletes with this most of stuff that you would buy like a GNC Probably an Olympian couldn't take or they'd have to check it out. Right because it's like how clean is a lab how you know It's a susceptible is to contamination So a lot of them like they're thinking about this shit every day like it's their whole life if they get if they pop hot They're careers over. Yeah, so it's it's a huge Jordan Burrows in here and he wouldn't even try a kill cliff CBD drink Right. I don't think I could take this well I had cheeto in on my show and I said hey you want to try ketone. He's like I don't know so he called Jeff Novensky And he said could I take this ketone IQ and Jeff said well depends on what batch is approved So the batch of the ketone IQ that was made has to be approved the other batch might not be approved So you could fail from that other batch. I didn't know any of that shit
But he called him right before we did it so he didn't take it. It's just like So there's things like that where it's just it's non-stop. I don't know if I can take this I've never been in that position because I'm I just run to bow hunt I've never looked at these lists and never done anything but a lot of stuff that you know Sudafed is on there ADHD medicine is on there you can't take or you have to get what they call a therapeutic use exemption So say if you were a regular guy and you had low testosterone and you wanted to do TRT You could get that approved through a therapeutic use exemption. That's very interesting through doctor You can run in the marathon with a therapeutic use exemption of testosterone, which is a legitimate performance enhancement Yeah, I don't know if you didn't have to look at your numbers and where you're at and like if this was real Well, you're supposed to take a very specific amount Like this was the issue with the UFC when the UFC had TUE's Yeah, and they had TRT V tour those those days when guys were taking like large amount of shit And that's actually would stop the program is that people started testing like off the fucking charts Yeah, I'm not really okay. These guys are straight up juicing. Yeah for sure
So but if you're a 60 year old person and you want to run the marathon and you're on testosterone, it's legal. Yeah, yeah Yeah, and it should be it's like The TUE thing is still probably abused in some ways because we know these doctor patient relationships You can say hey, I want to do this. Can you make it sound like this? Right? Of course, and that's I'm not even I'm not even talking all I'm saying is like for and I talked to Olympians about the situation because I want to make sure I understand it right it's like if If I'm as a regular citizen, so there's 9,000 runners in the g marathon are we all gonna be held?
To the standard of Olympic athletes, right? Are they testing everybody in the Eugene marathon? They didn't test anybody anybody so there's there's prize money That that's paid out. There's Olympic trials qualifying standards, which are met So now you're in the Olympic trials and I don't want to shit on the Eugene marathon because he's small Marathons they don't have the money to be testing 9,000 people or probably these tests are expensive so There's something to like if it's a usatf So you United States of America track and field association if it's one those events and it's for like a world championship or it's for like a Team position I get it and it does need to be for the Eugene marathon was 9,000 people It's not realistic to say we're gonna drug test everybody or if you're taking whatever you need a therapy Pute abuse exemption because you think you saw that could review say if people are taking three or four different medications times 9,000 They don't have the resource to to go through all those tewees, right? It's not realistic So there should be in my opinion two categories
You got your regular runners which I'm in and you got your elites which are susceptible to this drug testing in these requirements And that's totally fair and I get that and it's kind of why I've waited into this and said I'll be the poster boy for this I'll admit that I took BPC 157 to try to avoid surgery on my foot and where years ago and whatever the fallout right? Whatever the fallout is is what it is because this needs to be discussed because I talked to all these regular people who are doing all this Stuff just to be healthy to enjoy something that they love which is running or competing in races and everybody Like on the other side on you know say the clean sport side which I am on that side to trust me I want I want clean sport, but they're like saying that like my time was so fast It's almost into this they talk about this age-graded thing where like this guy who brought it up said age-graded Like so what that I think is what that looks at is like in my prime if I ran a 239 at age 58 What was my potential when I was in my prime right and it would is super fast like you know like world like 210 or 212 Which would have won the Olympics back when I was 25, you know what I mean?
So I understand why my time is just like I'm almost too fast as a regular citizen to Kind of like this gray area like Should he be tested or whatever but all I'm saying like if the rule is to test or if I know the rules I'm down dude. I'm I'm all for it That's why I've been so transparent about what I've taken what I've done and what I was trying to avoid with the surgery But it's also an important point about the sign up thing for the Eugene marathon If there's if you're supposed to not take certain supplements that's supposed to be stated in the marathon sign up, right? Yeah, yeah, and it's not yeah, and I don't I've never I hardly look at that But there's now after all this I looked at the waivers because you know you saw it has been they sent me two really nice emails Just lovely emails that I haven't responded to And they they're trying to do the best they can but if these waivers say I looked at the waiver for I did two races this year Eugene Barthonico put on a 250 and the waivers mentioned liability insurance things Doesn't mention anything about us at f or drug testing or any of these requirements. There's no mention
But also what the thing that doesn't make any sense is first of all BPC 157 is not a performance enhancing substance Yeah, it helps heal soft issue injuries is very good for recovery from injuries That's what that's one issue the other issue is it was two fucking years ago. There's no way that's affecting you in this year's Eugene marathon No, it's a smoke screen. You know we've talked about some of screens here It's what he's doing is this basically he's accusing you because you took BBC 157 and he's saying you're lying about doing all these other things I've been called a liar a cheater a doper a stealing it's like yeah, but it's all fine But this is essentially what we were talking about earlier. Yeah, we were talking about earlier about people that are outliers that are like super successful And they go fuck that guy that guy that guy just got that guy that guy that same fucking thing Yeah, this guy can't appreciate that here's a guy who was running a fucking marathon a day while working an eight-hour job I was your friend then. Yeah, this is real. I know you did this. I always tell you to quit your job
Yeah, that was the first guy telling you quit that fucking job you're killing yourself I was worried about you because I know that your mind is so strong that you are willing to push your body to the point where it could actually fail and Willpower is really important Having a strong will will get you through so much in life that other people will not be able to pass They will not be able to break through but will could also get killed You know and it could also ruin your life you could hurt yourself to the point You know you hurt your back or something to the point where you never recover it never comes back like you have to It's like a fine line between mental toughness and and just being able to see the big picture and go It's actually smart to not be tough here And it's not to deny my toughness I got to know that I am tough and have confidence in my toughness enough to give my body a break and rest myself That's why I was always worried about you because you were doing things with no fucking sleep And I saw it. I know you did it I watched that guy's not doing this and you have to understand that the kind of willpower that a guy like you has or a guy like Goggins has where they can do things people know I can do that the fuck they can't like how many UFC fighters you've seen go and train with Goggins and there's like Israel
Insania the world champion world-class guy rolling up in a fucking garbage can't keep up with him Tony Ferguson like who is known in the MMA world for fucking? Superhuman endurance Tony Ferguson would just walk people down in his pride. He was elk a kooie He was the fucking boogeyman. He never got tired. Yeah, and even if you heard him It didn't matter. He's gonna recover and come back after you. He was coming for your fucking soul
That guy was breaking down everybody breaks down and it's he's doing it in silence. No one even knows He's doing it with no music. He's doing it by himself. No one's pushing him Yeah, he's a fucking full-on psychopath. They are real there's real people out there that are really living like that This guy should look at that and take inspiration from it But he's got these ideological differences with you because he's a vegan and because he thinks hunting is cruel and you're an asshole You're killing animals and you know he needs to eat one of them bear sticks or fuck it. Give me another one
I want another one fucking awesome. They're great, but it's just it's just what we're talking about It's if you and that guy actually had a conversation Thank you if you and that guy actually had a conversation and you were civil and there was no cameras It was just two human beings having a conversation I guarantee you probably have way more in common than you do not you know outside of the ideological differences about hunting and veganism and Maybe a lack of understanding about what even veganism entails because most of it entails large-scale monocrop agriculture If you're just buying plants you are responsible for the death of a fucking countless number of creatures Yeah, fact and especially if you start talking about bees yeah, avocados and almonds Oh, I mean I'm healthy you fucking killed a hundred billion bees. All right stop. Yeah Outside of that. What are you both doing? You're both pushing yourself to the limits of your ability and maybe if that guy had a bear
Stick or something have some real protein. He'd have a better time Well, I mean to right yeah, I'm some real fucking protein I am friends with a lot of people just like him and belief and like on the political spectrum or even the diet spectrum And I it hasn't affected our friendship at all because what I focus on is what do we have in common? We love the mounds. We love to run. We love to push ourselves. I don't need to align with everybody a hundred percent
So I'm I'm friends with tons of liberal people and love them. It's like has nothing to do with anything It's a but for him, you know, I was on the radar for a few different reasons This gave him like the reason why like BPC 157 is banned for Olympians not for a regular person right? We regular people can take it right so I'm just like he's like do you know what the rules are? I'm like I don't give a fuck about the rules so then he turned that into like he doesn't care about the rules He's gonna do everything anything he wants. I'm like no I don't care about rules that don't apply to me. I'm just like
Whatever so the rules that apply to me are is this rule and it's like if you want to talk about rules I follow the rules like I talked about purchasing You know when I was a the buyer at my old job for 20 years I had to go by laws and rules every day and so I respect that if it has to do with me if it like affects me I'm like okay, I understand it Well, this one You start bringing up these us a TF sanctions and what I need to know and I sign a waiver for a race and I look at the waiver And the waiver doesn't mention anything about this this says if the US TF sanctioned event is you know If we're talking drug testing it says related published materials must contain the following language So when I see that says a must contain the following language in my contract days unlike well that didn't say should or didn't say May because should in may means it doesn't have to right when it says must It must so it says a must say this athlete who participate in this comp in this competition Maybe subject it to formal drug testing and corn with you know blah blah blah blah
So basically it has to have this language and it has to spell out exactly what it is Their rules their own rules say it must be included I've never seen this language it was never included anything that I've agreed to with these in regard to these races So there's no responsibility to go to the website and find out what the standards are if they had a waiver Even if they had a link like okay, right? So if they said if you are gonna race you must be held to the standards of this race right you can go visit them on this That's fine. I would be like oh that's my bad. I didn't do that right they never mention it So if somebody said like I didn't know BPC was banned for Olympians at all before this I just thought that it was another maybe could get a TUE for I didn't know what TUE was but because I just it's not my world My world is bow hunting I just try to get in as good a shape as I can not trying to do it for money You're doing it. I've never won money I've never been on a national team You know if I wanted to be if that was what I was gonna do I would know everything about the rules everything about what I could take or what I couldn't take I mean you can't take THC You know I mean they say you can take it but not on the day of competition So you know how long THC is in your system. Yeah, so you took it the day before but you didn't but you're still gonna
Run high yeah, but but as long as that lasts in your system How are they gonna prove if you took it that morning? Well, they would have to be able to test your levels right after you race and they could determine whether or not you actually Toxicated during the race. That's how Nick Diaz got popped. Oh really takinori gomi He said his bucket levels were off the charts and that was I don't believe it was I believe that was I think that was pride and I think it was the first time that pride had an Event in the United States and they had it in Vegas. I believe see that's that's right. It was a long time ago
I want to say this is I want to say like 2005 it was big win when Nick beat takinori gomi Takinori gomi was one of the big stars over in pride and Nick He got him with a go-go plot though, which is a crazy submission off your back We use the shin against the guys neck and you're grabbing your foot from behind his head and God nasty But they say he was off the charts to save his eyes a kite when he was fighting Which I fucking love yeah, you're not allowed to do that and I think for good reasons I don't think you should be allowed but look the the reality of these drug tests are is that if you're saying to a person that you can't take it the day of the Competition and they're a regular user they're gonna have a lot of THC in their system right they just are and also You could you could take a very high dose of edibles the day before a race and you would still be in Toxicated The race that's that's so what year was this?
Apparently the Commission felt the level which Diaz tested at 175 was a considering factor in his performance during the fight Dr. Tony alma the Commission's chair said that so it was Nevada a result of 15 is considered positive But Nevada State Athletic Commission has a threshold of 50 test positive for THC They feel very comfortable that everybody that tests positive in Nevada is truly positive Mr. Diaz was 175 is creates a unique situation I was there the fight I believe you were intoxicated and that it made you numb to the pain did it help you win I think it did I don't you know listen Diaz is gonna be numb to the pain anyway. He's one of the toughest fucking dudes ever lived Yeah, I don't know if you can make that argument that help you win I think it probably relaxed him. He likes it You know he probably could go out there high and fight more in his element But he could fight in his element anyways, so he was one of the best fighters on earth at the time He's a world-class fighter the idea that that helped him win is like yeah prove it as a strew But he was beating everybody anyway, it's a stretch it's like I just don't think that we need to be opening the Pandora's box to testing 9,000 people or having them you know like well Also be realistic about what you're saying because what you're saying is if all you did was take that drug
It's not even drug take that peptide in 2024 for a broken foot. There's no fucking chance that helped you win a Marathon two years later. It does not help other than the fact that it helped to heal your broken foot That's not performance enhancing. No, but this guy's kind of a hater Hater it was I understand yeah I mean I admitted that I took it and it's like at that and actually that night I remember I didn't even know when that was I fucking can't remember when I go went to waste wells like I thought it was like six Years ago, I couldn't even fucking remember so then I got a hold of my said no I need you know the details of my my treatment and it you know it was in November of 2024 and I'm like okay Well, but anyway that night I said yeah, I've done stem cell I've done TRT before and mentioned BPC 157 and it's like I didn't know when that was but I just kind of because he was like coming at me I'm just like fuck off. It's like I do all this. I don't know whether it's proved or not doesn't has nothing to do with me
I'm not an elite athlete. I'm fucking bow hunter. So I was like kind of wanted just Let's shit on him at that time. Well, he got what he needed because admitting to taking BPC for like Olympian is a huge deal because it's banned Just for them not for me and that then he could go to you saw it and say oh this guy took a band And they're you know now they're like it sucks. It's like they're in a position where I don't know It's just like so much the public knows about it so much. It's like, you know
I got articles about me and talking about all this crazy shit I'm just like I was trying to not have two or three surgeries It's like I'm not trying to win a fucking the my age category of marathon And then they'll turn it into like well, that's not fair to the other people who are performing clean I was like it's not we don't even know who's what people are taking up like I'm not even in this field of the sea Lead field where this is all I did was admit I was truthful everybody else just lies Yeah, well, maybe maybe lies maybe doesn't but the the point is a giant percentage of people right now are taking peptides because they're very beneficial to Appeal injuries and if you're gonna run marathons like the way you run them with very fast times You're probably training really hard if you're training really hard. You're probably gonna get injured. Yeah, yeah It's just but it's a hater thing is what it is or yeah, he's accusing you of lying which I know you're not a liar But so this is the thing he's he's Attacking your character, but it's also the fact that you know that quote that I love all criticism is the tragic result of unmet needs This guy's an elite athlete. No one knows who he is. Yeah, you know, that's part of the problem
Yeah, and then with someone who's very popular is creeping in on his times like that's like how how's that possible? Eighteen years older than me fuck this guy. No one ever wants to think that someone actually works harder than them No, no, and or yeah, I mean and I get that I mean I'm a human too I understand how that can happen but like to call me like a doper time to discredit everything I've done it's just like it's so not even real the approach to use is to just be honest Lay it all out and leave it alone. Yeah, I don't think like going after this guy unless shit is in any way beneficial I don't I don't want I want everyone to succeed. I don't have anything personal against this guy I didn't like you talking shit about true it. I didn't even that it's just it's just hater aid
I just sees true it running with those fucking perfect jeans on and look at all handsome He's also a little too buff to be a marathon runner which drives people nuts too. Yeah, they also won the world pull up challenge Like look when someone breaks the world record it pull up That is a fucking extraordinary human being period and for you to discredit that person in marathon running after they've done that Well, you're a fool. Yeah, this isn't just a regular person Right, this is a person who broke the world fucking record for chin ups or pull ups Yeah, that's a crazy thing to do yeah to do thousands of pull ups in 24 hours rip your fucking hands to shreds Yeah, that's an extraordinary person for him to not recognize that he's being a bitch Yeah, it which is fine It's a natural characteristic that a lot of human beings have yeah And especially ones that are not getting their needs met in terms of the attention they feel he deserved and who are ideologically opposed to you Because you're a hunter what the the traction he's got is because it's almost like if you say you know how some people would say oh You're interested in border security like protecting the border Racist right racist. You're not see right you're cheap so to say that I'm a cheater or a doper you don't have to say anything else
Because it's like oh that guy so now I'm kind of tainted by with that language when the fact the matter is this is years ago I don't take any I mean I take plenty like fish oil magnesium all this other bullshit trace gives me but Like the level of doping I know about I don't know shit I don't know I don't know EP I know we talked about this before but I don't even know really what a EP Does other than make like more red blood cells or something so there's more oxygen But I'm so like illiterate on Performance and like peds. I'm just like I don't I don't even take testosterone anymore because I run better Low which is weird and I didn't know if this happened because they say when you run like long distances extreme long distances Your testosterone drops I almost think that's by design because I look at like how these women have been performing at these huge races with low testosterone Higher estrogen they perform better and so I'm just like man Maybe I don't need the TRT maybe and so I haven't like I had I had I got a prescription filled like last September and I still have four of the things out of ten and
Anybody who's a doper then we've got dope sitting around like if you had you know I don't care if it's meth or fucking testosterone if you have it you take it if you're a doper right so I haven't done it because I'm Operate better with a low heart rate low testosterone and I can run but low body weight too. That's a big Well, yeah, I'm like 148 is what I got down to what are you right now 52 Wow when I met you you were in the 80s Yeah, I was just lifting I just I always ran but I was running like five miles a day And I wanted to be like I thought like for hunting I needed more muscle to perform because I need to carry heavy loads and things like that Now I've realized that I'm better with extreme endurance and I'm still strong for like 148 still very strong compared to like a normal 148 so I'm still able to do the task I need to do carry heavy loads when I kill Optimized yeah, so well this is the big factors the weight because I'm pretty heavy Yeah, and I noticed the difference, you know like I've lost I want I hunted a few years back I got down to the 190s early one like 192 at 193 and I felt way lighter
Yeah, like you would think 10 pounds was right now way too old to this morning You think 10 pounds is not that big of a deal. It's a big deal That's a big deal when I work out and I put a 25 pound weight vest on yeah It's amazing how much harder it is to do chin-ups and push-ups and dips. It's amazing. Yeah, and it's only 25 pounds No, you think about how many people just normally carry 25 extra pounds You're walking around all day with a weight vest on you know Well, and I've told truth this too is like he's heavier But every guy lining up to run them the Olympic trials qualifier or like when they run the Olympic trials for the marathon There won't be anybody over like 140 so I said which totally makes sense you're fighting gravity Yeah, I mean you gotta be like yeah, so I said you can't be 160 and compete what does he have now?
He's like 58 and what is it trying to get down to he's gotta be in the 40s gotta be like 140 Oh my god, he's gonna look like Skeletor the guy the guy who I just ran with you ran you gene and set the course record and all that He's 135 probably like 6-1 whoa, that's just the name of the game right you like the East African super light the guy who just broke the world Record of the marathon. It's like 135 or no no 115 G's tiny little guy, so it's like makes sense That's just this just performance right this is what it takes a huge engine a light body right and uh so Like to pay me this way when I was turning avoid a surgery haven't taken BPC since then It's just it's kind of just I think all you can do is take your case And I think you just did and you just did it really well And I know you and I can speak for you you are as honest as human beings I've ever met my life you don't lie about anything and you are and it's also why you work so hard you work so hard So you don't have to lie you're an insanely hard worker. I didn't I didn't lie about this either I mean that's what I just said. Yeah, I did I didn't remember when but looked it up Here's one it was whatever. You know sky's got to get over it. Maybe you should have a conversation with him on keep hammering collective
Yeah, I mean I don't I would talk to anybody I don't you know I talk to people who feel differently than me all the time people There's also a problem where people don't know someone and they don't communicate with them And so you kind of form a narrative and then you fight that narrative, you know You attack that narrative you attack a creation of who the person is rather than the actual person and people like to do that because They like to turn someone into a demon yeah, they like to turn someone to an not even a person That's how people have to do that with war they love to do that with religion It's easy to garner support with keywords using keywords that nobody could defend It would be like okay. We got that that'll work right there And so that's where you know the Nazi or the Doper the racist. That's why those words are always out there Yeah, it's like cuz they're powerful exactly that's exactly and when you you know when you get boxed in a corner You can use those words and advise you some time. Yeah, there's that and then there's also, you know There's a lot of people that don't have a good personal insight. They don't understand what they're doing really They think they're justified and what they're doing really. It's just a bunch of bitchy bullshit one thing that I did
I think part of this I don't want to be demonized about like with the peptides because it shouldn't be demonized But one thing I think a lot of people because as you said a lot of people are taking these peptides a lot of people are doing the TRT stuff I think that there was a big shift when COVID happened as far as distrust in the health I mean basically our health and wellness category like it started maybe with Obamacare People are having trouble getting in their doctor doctors quit because it's too frustrating So people we've had a hard time getting medical treatment like to be healthy and then COVID happened And then they were shoving down, you know the vaccine down or throws them turned out like it wasn't as safe and effective as they said So I think people like they see that the writing was on the wall They couldn't get in their doctor. The doctor was like just writing prescriptions So then the wellness clinics popped up, right?
And it feels like it was after COVID for now like you got to waste a well and there's other places like it Where you can go in and they care about how you feel they want you to they want to help you feel better Like live like an optimized life like you're old, but you don't have to feel old And so they're like they can do the blood panel where getting a blood panel at your regular doctor was like pulling teeth for a while It's like no we don't need to do that but you go to a wellness clinic They'll do it and they'll tell you yeah, you're deficient here this and this and that we can add this we can try this Um, and then also you start to feel better and you're like well, these people care about my health The doctor what he care about writing prescriptions and then the doctors are playing a totally different game as we can see from that hospital video that we just Wants right so it's no wonder that waste wells and like these these other treatments maybe bypassing surgery and let's try this peptide I see that it's kind of evolving and it's changing and the sport of ultra needs to Also and running needs to be on board with that because most your field aren't elites and aren't Olympians Right there are regular people who just are trying to do what they enjoy and that's me while they're working a full-time job most of them Yeah, well, I think you laid your case out and I got to pee Yeah, let's wrap this bad boy up and bring it home
Congratulations on your bear hunt those you got two giant monsters. Oh, yeah, we got John and Jen. Yeah, shout out to John and Jen rivet Yeah, I'm gonna try to come next year. So where love those guys. I love those guys I love that place they have up there too. It's crazy and for people who don't know those these these bear have no natural predators other than grizzlies
They have to be controlled they're devastating the moose and deer and elk population up there because they kill all the calves They they they're ruthless predators opportunistic hunters. They each other just to put that in perspective in Alaska. They're flying out of helicopters shooting bear Yeah, because there's so many I'm not enough for getting killed so they wipe out all the ungulates Yeah, so it's like it's an issue. You just don't know about it. You know people don't know that Alaska's flying in hillcopter is leaving bear after they kill them I know and everybody thinks of bears is yogi yogi and boo boo and you know Comfort trip take a trip to Alberta. I'll show you some real shit
Yeah, yeah, I know it's I never went uh, you know, I've told the story You know, Jen and I ran into a grizzly once when we're out there just briefly we only saw it briefly We're like let's get the fuck out of here They don't get hung over there anymore because too many grizzlies. So that's like it's crazy That's quite a waste more we hunt now is because and that crazy grizzly starts coming in the bait Yeah, that's gonna get out of there. Especially I like to sit on the ground and they need to start hunting them up there too And you know, this is uh, when they changed that law in bc They made it a fucking disaster up there. There's so many grizzly now Yeah, and it's just the people that live in these high population areas that don't have any encounters with them and they're it's ballot box biology Yeah, they're trying to be good people. Do you want to outlaw trophy hunting? Yeah, these cruel assholes
They just want to shoot this animal for its skin. Yeah, fuck them They just want to show what a big man they are by killing an animal like that guy calls me a trophy hunter Like he's like he's like oh, I understand deer and elk hunting, but not bear She's like well, you don't know what you just eat. How is that bear? We just how is that any different than deer and elk? My daughter went to school one day and they were asking what your favorite food was and she said bear candy Steve vanilla taught me a recipe called bear candy how to make this like it's like a you make it with brown sugar And you cook this bear and it's like a sweet and sour pork kind of deal, but with bear It was fucking delicious and I served it for my kids and my daughter I think she was just trying to like jostle people up a little bit. I care well gin makes them badass bear stir fry
Oh, it's fantastic. I mean I was like her bear meat is fantastic I was just thinking of myself mountain ops has those new freeze dried meals. Maybe I need to get some right dehydrated Bear meat in there. Yeah, yeah Food he does it all in a dehydrator then rehydrates it in camp. He's vacuum seals own stuff some of those meals Yeah, what's the best way to do it to if you want to eat clean if you want to eat clean in the mountains Oh, yeah Get a dehydrator for that energy because just like in ultras and performing what you're using for calories matters 100 so especially on a long hunt if you can like we had I had some mountain ops freeze dried up in there like chicken off Righto that's just fucking good calories 100% and also electrolytes boy I it changed for me when I started using element when I started throwing element my water when I was out there Giant difference. Yeah, those electrolytes. That's the first thing I drink in the morning
Oh, yeah, because I know them because I run every day I know I think I've been also like low on sodium for a long time just because of how much I run for sure Like I run so much like I get sores here because my shirt gets soaked with sweat And wet clothes sitting on my skin has makes all these sores from running for hours and a wet shirt That's crazy. I know where their nipples out. They have to put that. Yeah, that happens where I wear my jeans I wear like a bra sort of well It's like a little running pack but it holds my shirt right there on my tits But this here bounces and it's like just being wet but that's crazy It's big sores on your skin just from a t-shirt It does just from being just our running itself just from being warm But I think that I was sweating so much that when I do that element first thing in the morning It sets me up for the whole day to be able to perform at a higher level Even just some sea salt in your water like you need minerals. Everybody does need electrolytes It's a wrap it up. Yep. All right, I'd love you to death. I'd be awesome
Glad you had an opportunity to come on here and this is all very important stuff to talk about and uh one more time that number for everybody I want to call that number. I know call you call your centers 202-234-3121-say-roadless rule needs keep stay intact. Mike Lee can suck a big fat one. I think I fuck yeah. Bye everybody