The Joe Rogan experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day I was smoking the father said I can make you guys know it's a good thing about you You never smoke them down to the filter good kid. You know great family. I want a great family My sister smoke when we were in high school. I was like God why you smoking so stupid Yeah, and then I had to do a play once with Adam Ferrara and a couple of people and I was supposed to play this Something that the bunch comics wrote with fun.
It was nice thing I was supposed to play this like a tortured liberal arts student and I was like smoking cigarettes So they want to be smoking cigarettes while I was doing it so I smoked like 15 fucking cigarettes while we're doing it And I threw up I had a fucking horrible headache. Oh my god. I'm so high. Wow.
My arms don't move right If you've never smoked cigarettes, but I'll just smoke 15 in a row during were you like an athlete too? Oh, yeah, oh so that totally fucked you up. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no the first time I had a cigarette It's so terrible, but I was like this is great Body responded.
I don't know how like what you had is the very normal experience was just too much one cigarette I actually liked I was like what a head rush this is kind of cool I go now I got I kind of get it I get why you guys like this interesting But I had we were doing this thing and I had to always be smoking so we had a rehearse We were doing it all day and I wanted to try to like feel normal with a cigarette I kept smoking them and then I liked them so I kept smoking them Yeah, it's it's a tough thing because the thing about and I've been sober 15 years from alcohol and drugs And I look at people that are really drunk. It doesn't look appealing. It doesn't look good But when you see somebody with a cigarette, it always looks good. It looks like ah you always looks good You never say to yourself like that person's gonna lose now.
You'll get sick and die But you never got to lose control of their life, right? So you look at somebody with a cigarette and you go. Oh, yeah, they're having one. They're cool.
It's fine They're using it to help hang on yeah, I never look cool with it It's like you look at an actor doing it or someone like the Con film film on Yes, I'm like that. Tiffany Shallen has one. He's the size of one and he has one and I go this fine Probably France or something. You know what I mean?
They will do shit like that. So we'll see that you get a cigarette holder to go with your sunglasses Yeah, I just see red and cigarette holders. Yeah, that's your next move I just got a long stems with the cigarette at the end of it like 1920s like 1920s and yeah No, it's it's the worst thing because the smell is terrible right and it destroys your clothes Yeah, and it's very bad for your health obviously Yeah, but it is one of those things that it's just such a good product What other product could they tell you it kills you and we're raising the price every year? How about an England where they smoke like crazy you have actual cancer on the fucking cartons When you buy them I was in London you bought one there was it like a dead baby on a photo Well, they were like low birth weight.
Yeah, I was like this is terrible and non-cares They smoke more over than anywhere. They smoke more over there. They don't eat the way we eat like they don't understand the way we eat I mean they don't get it there is there are there something called Toby Carvery like where you can just like just ladle on Sunday Rose and Yorkshire pudding and stuff But for the most part the portions are smaller and people are more behaved in that sense But they drink more and they smoke mm. This is it European World Cup fans losing their minds over Taco Bell ranch and unlimited refills Yeah, oh, yeah, because they get sick when they come here they get sick because there's chemicals in our food Somebody was telling me they went to Bucky's and the there was the soccer teams were at Bucky's for the first time And they just fucking couldn't believe it of course imagine that's your first one of the first experiences You have in America you walk into a Bucky's yeah, you're from Czechoslovakia or some shit It's the it's one of the most American places as you've said that exists you have this gas station But that's also like a weird theme park of food And all kinds of other shit that you could need yeah, this guy dude LMAO at this is a gas station Yeah, well, you see how big they are yeah for 24 million views.
That's hilarious No, it's completely alien to their culture Yeah, to have a place like that where you could go by the Costco's are alien to them The idea that you could buy mayonnaise in a bucket or jars and things that you would keep like you know It's all they all think we're preppers because if you go to like a big grocery store chain You're buying food for a long period of time. They don't do that there they buy stuff for like the week they have small refrigerators Yes, all refrigerators couple of days. They don't have refrigerators like we have but also they don't have the same amount of Preservatives and their food which is why it's not poison right they also don't think and they could be wrong about this But they also don't think that like they're gonna lose access because of some Racewar, you know what I mean like there is a little bit of planning that goes into some of these grocery runs that does seem slightly paranoid Oh, yeah, well the news media over here ramps you up. Oh, yeah, you know, yeah start thinking about stockpiling gold Oh, yeah, yeah, well when I live in LA when my kids were young I had an apocalypse truck built right that's why little anchors I got I specifically I go I need a bug out truck like a truck where I could store a lot of shit in it And it could literally drive over a mountain.
That's what I need. I need a car That's not just a road car Right, I need a car that occasionally shit might go sideways and you gotta get the fuck out here And you gotta drive through the desert Wow and you and I've left LA multiple times to make that drive not in an apocalypse car But because it fires it's like sometimes gotta get out of Dodge three I live there and it got as close to like burning my fence down part of the LA experience to get in a car David Spade called me once during the riots he goes your block is on fire I thought he was kidding, but there was just overturned cop cars on fire and it was like riots This was 2020 so I just got in my car and went okay to the desert. That's part of the LA. Yeah experiences fleeing as well Palm beaches Yeah, yeah, you pump springs.
Yeah, you flee. Yeah, you go. I mean Palm Springs makes no sense So how's fuck there's no water? Well, you know why it started money It started because when when Paramount Pictures was doing edits if you were in a movie you had to be within 200 miles of Until the movie was finished editing it was in your contract Palm Springs is like exactly 200 miles from LA.
Oh That's why they started that's why they started it. How do you that you know? They were like we own you you can't go anywhere until the film was edited So if you want to go on a vacation you have to go there. You know, it's interesting It's like Pasadena was where all the like producers lived.
Yeah, there's beautiful houses in Pasadena, man Mid-century modern beautiful incredible places like estates that just seem completely got a place totally beautiful and from another time from another time Yeah, that's the thing in Atlanta. You get the vibe that your your Santino made a brilliant point He's like it's not Hollywood is Hollywood the sequel Mmm, like you're not living in the thing anymore. You're leaving in whatever the second version of the thing is right the second Other thing is the second version is tiktok. Yeah, whatever it is It's not it's not what it was in every place seems a little bit like a museum or like it was cool 20 years ago or 15 years ago You know somebody recently said this and it's perfect.
They said LA is slowly becoming Detroit interesting Yeah, the only thing that might save it is the weather this episode is brought to you by Squarespace if you're thinking about building a website You should try Squarespace. I know because I use it. That's right Joe Rogan.com is powered by Squarespace It has all the features that you need to create a stand-out website like an AI enhanced website builder SEO optimization tools and seamless checkouts with mobile pay links head to Squarespace Dot-com slash Rogan for a free trial and when you are ready to launch use the offer code Rogan to save 10% off your first purchase of a website Or domain this episode is brought to you by uber eats hockey seasons here and uber eats is delivering game-day deals on Favorites like wings pizza fries and snacks and you can order more than food like gear to rep your team or fresh batteries for the remote When your watch party gets hungry or you just need anything Order in and keep everyone's attention on the ice score great deals on uber eats all season long because hockey is for the hungry terms apply Product availability varies by region see app for details the weather will help with the industry dried up Right, so the big industry in Hollywood regardless whether or not is the biggest economic industry the biggest industry in terms of like cultural value and getting people to move there Was always show business. Yeah, and that's they barely make movies anymore They over taxed and over regulated their biggest industry to other states and other countries Yeah, and most people are making things all over the world and very few I think at one time is like 80 to 90% Now it's 25 30% shot in LA Wow it's a big difference it's a giant difference Arrogance of like this is the best place in the world everyone's gonna come here no matter what right that that's the Gavin Newsom attitude when every Defense California talks about how great the GDP is we you know with a fifth we would do the fifth largest economic boom Yeah, you know he starts rattling off all these wonderful statistics and this is like instead of acknowledging it We've got a fucking real problems people are moving for the first time ever more than they're coming here We're losing all these giant corporations that are least instead of that.
It's just this where the shit No one's doesn't I'm very big on California. I'm bullish on California. It's always gonna be amazing here Well, it's what every empire said until they fell. Yeah, right.
Yeah, we are the thing But people don't want to ever believe that things can fall. It's so weird We'll walk right through the Colesseum. Well, listen. I'll have it again, right when we landed in LA I look to the right and that that warehouse was on fire with 85 billion or 85 million tons of chemicals in a warehouse That was on fire was like a multi-day blaze and you're landing and you're looking at the window And you're just seeing the warehouse on fire and then there was a car fire on the 405 Like I saw my house having apartment there now But like as I was going to my apartment It was a car on fire and I was as I was landing the warehouse was on fire and you start thinking yourself Somebody doesn't want us here like somebody wants us out like almost feels like we're being evicted by nature by nature And just by nature by bad decisions by everything which is nature.
Yeah, you know human nature is nature And the stupidity of humans is it's no different than the stupidity of animals when they go extinct Do you think it comes back any shot any chance something has to happen right something big has to happen I mean there has to be something that completely shifts the way LA looks at itself You know, it has to look at itself as like a functioning business instead of a giant scam for nonprofits Right was a big part of LA's problem is there's a bunch of people that are in the empathy industry Yeah, and they're in the you know, we're working for this and we're working for that and it a giant chunk of their money is going to That kind of I did a great show at Ocean's in Atlantic City Which is a casino there and the owner of that casino was talking to me and I said What would fix Atlantic City because Atlantic City has some similar problems to LA, but vastly worse Yeah, we were and and he was telling he goes we have just a high amount of people and a lot of social programs in one area So you have a lot of people that are not for whatever reason productive and they're living in one area and everything that comes along with that Which is crime, which is you know, vandalism, which is you know, disorder to varying degrees And he goes you need to get rid of that in order to have a climate where businesses can thrive 100% is what happened in New York in the 90s people hate it They don't want to admit it, but what happened in New York in the 90s was like they did clean up a lot of the crime and a lot of Businesses and felt better about investing 100% but that's what Giuliani did. So what he did and he's demonized He's demonized. He's he's he's he hasn't he's one of those guys where if he'd just done that and died his legacy would have been amazing But he's hung around for a while and he's kind of gone into some interesting tangents So it's one of those scenarios where it's like how do you just clean up New York City and then love public life? It would have been like that guy, right?
But he hung around a little bit and you know got a lot of things hang around they always hang around you're gonna do shows That's right. I was gonna do stand up That's right. I was gonna do shows, but he did such a good thing and it was like just yeah Just exit who's also, you know, it was easy to make fun of like the time We were sweating his diet. Well, that's what I mean.
You know, I mean he's melting He's doing a part of my friend's in a parking lot here. Yeah, you're a hundred years old. It's okay to have great hair It's just these guys there's so much silliness on both sides You know, there's some there's silliness on the left and silliness on the right There's goofy people because the only kind of people that want that kind of position of power are a little goofy Right, you don't get the best and the brightest and the most enlightened that want to be the mayor of New York City No, not the job lot of people that want power and they want influence and you know I think a lot of that The AI stuff which is very interesting is starting to I think it might I don't know how Quickly will do this, but I do think it's going to it's going to lessen some of the cultural divides And I think it's going to potentially unite people because it's I think it's going to be the next fight seems to be about Surveillance privacy your your own rights what rights you'll have like I feel like that will be it might take precedent Instead of like these cultural fights that people have been having for a while It might be like people might be demanding autonomy, you know from artificial intelligence The problem is gonna be if you can't demand if you if you don't have a voice anymore And this is the potential nightmare scenario that we're seeing play out slowly in England So I think in England their freedom of speech has been suppressed to an alarming point where people are not freaking out nearly enough about it The amount of arrests that people get over there for fucking retweets and links retweets and likes that's so crazy to me that you could get arrested for Liking a tweet arrested not even retweeting because we all know if you like you're a piece of shit. You should retweet We all know that Retweet it so and if you're gonna go to jail you might as well retweet it anyway You're gonna get locked up what if you're doing this for a retweet versus a like I'm sure you're on my client just like this They were confused they hit a button so as soon as you have people that feel like the reality of the world They live in it's not being represented and they're not allowed to complain about it online because if they complain about online to get arrested Right now it's for immigration primarily.
This is the right one, but that could change that could change well It does seem to be that they they feel that there was a decision made by somebody that The public can only discuss issues in a very rigid way They can only offer their you like if not everyone who's talking about immigration is doing it the most articulate way But is there right to do it? It's their country. They should be able to say I'm worried about Increased levels of immigration, you know and they should be able to say that in in an eloquent way, right? Right so what they're doing now is they're policing certain words and I think certain ways of speaking and they're calling a lot of things An incitement to violence now something's clearly are an incitement to violence But you know the internet people speak in a colorful way people talk using irony some people trying to be funny Some people are so I think the way that they're doing it over there is they're basically looking at the statements and going this person is inciting violence and threatening the public good right what they are saying right and Then there's also people were getting arrested for saying that they were rape gangs and there were and there were there were and so This new report who released this new report that said a quarter million people It says UK scraps police probes of legal social media posts after review says response went too far So this is April 1st 2026 But I just saw a thing about a guy getting arrested like a few days ago And we have rape gangs here, but ours are more successful.
I think that's a Legal social media posts is which weird so legal social media posts, right? They're laws different than our law. They don't have freedom speech over there So incitement to violence is a violation of the law right so when it says legal it could just be they went too far for things Like cartoons or something like that. That's not clearly not incitement to violence But would it find out Jamie what that report was about the rape gangs?
I was just there for 21 days I was in London I went to Paris for a couple of days but I was in London primarily for 21 days and you talk to different groups of people and London's a global city is a cosmopolitan city. It's like New York and you know, I think one of the things that You know, they're they're used to diversity there And so they're not full on panic about different types of people coming in but there is undeniably a real problem Outside of London also in London, but outside of London because a lot of the economy is stagnated So you're bringing people in it's not clear immediately what jobs they'll do and a lot of their cultures very greatly from the English culture In a meaningful way and that could be the rights of women that could be the rights of gay people That could be the opinions about freedom of speech that could be freedom of religion whatever it is There is a cultural tension there between you know immigrants migrants coming in and this the very established society That's been around for a very long time. This episode is brought to you by the farmers dog Here's a fun fact research shows that dogs who maintain a healthy weight can live up to two and a half years longer on average than dogs who are overweight Isn't that wild and also kind of obvious at the same time? So why is feeding vague scoops of ultra-processed kibble still the status quo for most dog owners healthy alternatives exist and trust me I know I buy one the farmers dog.
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Yeah, so we're a bunch of really progressive people thoughts amazing sure bring everyone in everyone everyone's welcome And so they got enough Muslim people in there where they could vote in a mayor and then this guy says yeah more pride flags Yeah, they're inching towards what they would like yes, which is Sharia law if you ask for sure most people who live in these Islamic countries Now again if you asking them they're probably under duress they're terrified of saying the wrong thing right so you've got a factor that in but at least a percentage of them there's think Sharia law would be a great idea I think there's certainly a Yeah, I mean this was covered up to a lot of that grooming gang scandal there Yeah, so we're looking at it right now. It says this is on national review the UK terrific rape gangs so this but there was is this The rape gang inquiry report right so who put this report out? members of parliament and restore Britain party leader Rupert low and so the investigators have limited power such as inability inability to compel witnesses or require sort of document Production that could cooperate some of the most heinous victims viewed with those limitations in mind the independent report is a Damming collection of victim testimonies that vividly portray the sexual terrorism that occurred nationwide for decades. Oh Jesus Christ Yeah, this is terrible.
I mean obviously I mean the thing that it was 250,000 girls and this was covered up because the media They don't want to inflame anger against you know population of migrants right most of whom I'm sure were innocent of this obviously obviously But it is something that you know in a free society everyone has the right to know if there are rape gangs in their country and who's operating But in that crazy that in the under the guise of progressiveness. Yeah, even able to break gangs Well 100% it's crazy, but it's also incredibly It's not shocking because The ends justify the means approach of politics seems to be what we're doing right now Where is basically if the goal is to just eliminate? You know whatever whatever it's being called like this patriarchal white male dominated society And if you want to get rid of that and that's the end goal a lot of people ignore what happens in the middle Like a lot of people aren't super concerned about whose rights are being respected in that process because their end goal really is to kind of decrease the power of People they disagree with you know, so I mean it's like you know You know it's hard to look at this and not see a design And I don't quite know exactly where the design comes from but it's it's odd that this is what happens stance because everybody knows It's happening and people are afraid to talk about it So I would imagine that at some point you know for example like countries like Ireland right now that are having lots of issues over this It's you know the part of the EU and the EU would set migration policy for Ireland So they use a supernatural organization that would basically say here's how many migrants you have to admit here's your carbon emission standards here's your you know monetary policy whatever it is and Ireland is kind of in that in that sense. They feel like they're losing their sovereignty They're losing their ability to chart the course of their own country to a super national Organization that's that primarily seems concerned with the economics because if you bring in more migrants You can artificially grow the economy, which is what they're doing a lot of people in Europe are not having children So a lot of these economies are run by people that are not really too concerned about the cultural landscape of bringing migrants in They're looking more about how do we grow this economy?
How do we get cheap you know help and and how do we get workers and a lot of it is you're getting third world migrants So it's genuine refugees for sure, but a lot of its economic migration people are coming for better life hard to blame them But do the people that live in those countries get to have a better life That's a question if you lived in Ireland do you get to have a better life? Do your economic prospects get to grow do your children get to own property? Do they get to have health insurance and a job and things like that and It no one seems that concerned about that like these these citizens who've lived forever in these countries whose grandparents have fought and died in wars To secure the freedom of some of those countries, you know Britain You can't you know things like that those citizens seem to not be as prioritized as people coming in from other countries And that's one of the big problems that they're having there. Well, it's it's really interesting to watch because if there is a plan I mean, it's not interesting.
It's kind of horrific, but it's interesting. It can be both it can be both sure If there is a plan like who's plan who's plan and who's benefiting from this? But what why would you do this? I think it's a small group of people that Concerned themselves primarily with economic matters that don't care that nation states have cultures and histories and Customs and that doesn't really that doesn't bother them as much And they're they're basic.
They're basic, you know Responses to just deal with it and to call everyone a racist who questions it or to say everyone's Jingoist or ethnocentric or anti-immigrant or whatever they shut down those conversations And I think it's because a lot of people believe more in a global world And they don't believe in a world of nation states that have their own ability to govern themselves They want to take that power economically from those people and then eventually they want to take it Culturally and every other way so they just want to go around the world and say here's the way every country will look here's the economic policy of every country and If the people in those countries don't like it and they express, you know that on social media They're gonna get kicked off and if they organize in the streets They're gonna use you know the military authority to fire water cannons out to shut them down or use gas or whatever and if there's a genuine Resistance movement to some of it. They're gonna infiltrate it and turn it into some psychotic thing, which they do all the time Right, so it's hard to see it not to sound like a paranoid nut job But that's what I am and how I've made my living but I think it is clearly Someone's designed this isn't happenstance. None of this has to happen. We don't have to invade countries sponsor coups steal resources and then Like drench our communities in in guilt and say now we have to bring all those people here and you have to deal with it None of that has to happen That's that's a strategy of a group of people that want to keep perpetuating this Do you think it also has a one of factors might be that they want conflict the more conflict people having the streets the less they're gonna pay attention What the government's doing well a hundred percent?
I also think the more chaos in the street the more likely you're gonna be willing to accept new laws laws new laws And you're gonna just say I want peace and I don't care how we get it I don't care how we achieve it Yeah, and I think that's very possible But it does feel like it's it's on the road a little bit to where people want a uniform standard across but as you've said earlier This it's very interesting because this uniform standard is supposed to include non-binary art students in Vermont and religious Muslims from North Africa Yeah, good luck But I mean that's but it's amazing that the people that would be most opposed The people that like if you do bring those people and the people that are gonna hate the most are the people that want them in the most Yes, the ones are most likely to say we shouldn't have some border that keeps some person coming here and no persons illegal And the people that want them in the most I think are not even the people bringing them in they're being used right there being their Succial empathy their empathy weaponized. It's being used people right so people that are Manufacturing this reality are using those people these are the same people who really don't care if people in the state over have health care Right, these are people who haven't spoken to their sister in two years Right and they care a ton about people in the Ukraine or people that are coming over from Syria Whatever, but we fucked up Syria. We put that guy in who used to be an Isis. We got rid of Gaddafi They're slave markets in Libya, right?
So we did that we sent refugees all through Europe we destabilized all of Europe and You know, you can't take us out of it You can't take Western powers out of it You can't take Israel out of it You can't take the US and Britain France and a lot of other powers that have destabilized these countries and sent these people flooding through Western countries European countries Yeah, fun. It's gonna be a fun next 50 years. It's kind of crazy when you see images of France There's a video of France from 1998 from Paris. Yeah versus today.
Yeah, like 1998 and then they show different It's a different thing and you know, listen some of that's inevitable the world changes People, you know, but then you look at Ireland this guy just got beheaded on in the street which I'm against and I think is wrong and Beheaded some guy a migrant who had been brought in had beheaded or damn near beheaded try to and there's a video of it And and and now Belfast like, you know, it's probably quite a down-down But they were like tremendous riots. They were like burning things down because they're like we never got a vote on this We never got a vote on on bringing the people in yeah, we never got a vote on that No one ever asked us how much demographic change we wanted in our country and how quickly and what we were prepared to do No one ever asked that people don't like to admit it, but an armed population It's much more difficult to pull things off And that's another part of the problem with the UK with Ireland always places It's very difficult to have a diversity also relies on a very productive economy So New York City works to the to the degree it does because people can go out and get jobs because the economic Reality of the city is that it can support a lot of people coming in there are a lot of jobs for those people But when you have a stagnant economy like many parts of the UK, that's a lot harder It's a harder sell harder to assimilate people into a landscape where the people there are not doing well Like the people have lived there forever not thriving. They don't feel great their prospects economically aren't great And now you're bringing all these new people who also are struggling to find work so That's part of the problem. Do you think that this is being done with a strategy knowing that AI is about to completely disrupt society?
Yes, once I believe this is what I believe I believe No one for example. No one's trying to get anyone in this country to own a house No people pay lip service to the idea But there's there's a lot of people now a lot of them are my age who have never owned a home And never will and no one's trying to no one's wants them They've forgotten what owning a home feels like they've forgotten what it feels like to like have a yard We can invite people over and drink a glass of wine and smoke a cigar and watch a game and they live in a little apartment They type you know they're on a Mac book. They're getting radicalized in any direction. They're upset They're on dating apps or whatever, but they don't feel like they have a foundational core to their life.
No one has really Really even given them the idea that they're gonna get that so I think that's just one of the things where people are They're basically saying like no You don't need a house and you're not getting a house and forget what owning a house was like forget that that doesn't matter And I think part of this is because they know same as healthcare There's no real movement to give anyone healthcare in this country and if it is it gets shut down immediately So on the positive side You might go well They know that AI is coming and that AI is gonna do a lot of stuff with health and it's going to help extend life spans And but also on the negative side they go as gonna disrupt economy to a point where like we're not gonna have people owning homes and cars and things like that We're going to have a lot of people without a steady income or they don't really know what to do We're gonna have a lot of wealth that's existed a lot of capital and we're gonna have tremendous inequality We have a lot of joblessness. So for sure. I think that they're they're preparing for that I mean, there's no way you can look at the landscape because they're selling the country off for parts And this is both parties and this is like they're selling it off for parts. So I mean obviously there's something's coming Something's coming for sure and I don't know when it is I'm sure the AI thing's overblown to an extent and I think so much of our GDP depends on it that a lot of these companies are But anthropics are creepy.
These are creepy companies, you know, I mean, they're just creepy with the amount of power Yeah, the tech companies have in general totally is unprecedented. There's never been corporations I mean unless you go back to like the East India corporation, you know, you go back to the day where they had like an enormous army, you know Totally and they took over India and understand but if you look at what they're doing, it's very different than that You know other than the army part what they have is robot armies And then they have AI which Elon just recently said is gonna be like a million times smarter than the heart smartest human that's ever lived Right, like this is the goal The goal is to create literally a digital God and it's going to be controlled by not us not the collective human race It's gonna be controlled by select few group of people and that's weird like and we're just trusting them Well, that's why you're not getting a vote on immigration levels You're not gonna get a vote on, you know, like I think the the reality is that eventually they're gonna go Do you want safe streets? You want food? Do you want a little bit of money?
You got to do X Y and Z? You got to believe X Y and Z, you know, and I mean that seems to be coming and it seems like if you put people in the corner You get them scared though. This is what we learned during COVID like they will back down They'll they'll go along with a lot of stupid shit They'll go to they'll go they'll try to find comfort And they will listen to people that they deem to be worthy, you know, trust the government Which is wild the left is the people that trust the government Well, you have all these studies that come out, you know This is the thing that I like I love London and I the people there are great and they're fun people and everything like that But they have a you know, because they get help They get a little more from their government than we do There's more trust in their government than we have in our government and there's good There's positive to that and there's negatives but they there are a society of rules and customs in order and it is a bit different So I think they are more likely to go along with the grand plan of the government more so than the United States Where we really do question more what's happening than people in Europe or the UK Overall, yeah, well that makes sense, right? They have socialized health care.
They have isn't their education paid for completely? Isn't it? Yeah, they have good stuff. They have a good life.
Yeah, there's benefits to that totally There's like a balance to be achieved I've always said that like in this country It's foolish that we don't have that we don't pay for higher education like the more educated people the better like the less losers the better part of our country is is you know, where we we we we manufacture a lot of geniuses We also manufacture a lot of psychopaths. That's what our culture does a lot of social Lot of social a lot of people that don't give a fuck about anything That's a lot of people that don't care about anything It's that's the thing that comes along with the gluttony too, right? It's celebrated and they don't even realize that that outward gluttony. It just inspires all these eat the rich people The whole thing is out of balance.
That's what I would describe America if you had to describe it in three words It's just out of balance. It's out of balance. It does it is hard because we've got 350 million people It's hard to bat, you know, and it's like one of the people in Menlo Park have to do with the people in Baton Rouge have to do with the people in Canarsie like I get it so weird place you have all these different climates habitats people have different interests But I think I might unite people because like the idea of this as such a powerful force if people don't start getting cognizant Of it eventually and start, you know talking about regulating it or anything, you know, I do think it's it is going to be You know a very strange time if people, you know, just ignore it forever. It's gonna do something weird I'll tell you that it's not gonna be like whatever's coming over the next 20 years.
No one is predicting I get the feeling you see like these tech guys start adopting Christianity I'm a Peter Thiel's like the whole anti-Christ thing Yeah, he does something What is he doing? Game of fucking lecture on the anti-Christ. A bunch of lectures on the anti-Christ is fascinated with it And a lot of those guys are moving into this interesting area of this is this is God wants this Like JD Vance who's not the worst person obviously and I think he's the sanest voice in that administration about the area in war for sure I think he's by far one of the only people in there going let's comment down Which is why a lot of the big donors are are slimy and mud at him, you know But again, it's just he just released a book about faith reconnecting with his faith I'm sure it's a lovely book have a credit fun beat read JD Vance is reconnecting with his faith Great inspiring amazing. We'll get to it.
Have a right. We'll get to it. Top tier, but You know, it's also interesting because like some of his donors are huge tech guys and it's it's all of these worlds existing together Where you have this world of people who are trying to build a God and the world of people who already believe in a God and trying to get all of those people In the same tent that's interesting it is, you know imagine if that's where God comes from if this is a natural process for human beings and their curiosity And satiable need for technological innovation. What happens once we get gone like once just let's say we bring this God and then what happens?
Nirvana yeah, we all merge becomes perfect Interested so we'll merge and that's perfect time. Don't worry about it. We're gonna merge with the machine interesting Because people do believe that at one point time cavemen had to be looking at the wheel going man I see where this is gonna go right this is gonna fuck my whole gig up I'm a gig is making weapons on a stone and tying them to a stick with tendons Right and then chasing an animal and sparing them and now these motherfuckers invented guns right these motherfuckers invented arrows and with every progression of Techno like you bow and arrows technology Horseriding figuring out how about a horse like a new innovation right a horse now you can move a lot faster You get a lot of things done some guy figured out a wheel alright drag the wheel put a card on it now We can carry stuff with us right more than the stuff that you could put on a horse right a couple horses They pull a wagon right hey, this guy figured out a fucking engine. We don't need horses anymore right let's make the whole ground everywhere hard So we could roll around with these machines with internal combustion engines And then it just keeps going keeps going keeps going keeps going and then one day It's unrecognizable just like it is now if you showed australia pithicus manhattan in 2026 They'd be like they would freak out they probably start screaming they wouldn't know what to do they'd be horrified But do you think like if we showed Peter teal 2050 he'd go no that's it like that's what I want like whatever 20 like do you think the guys now Have a real idea of what it's gonna be no I think I think there's a lot of guess where I don't think it's possible I don't think it's possible to know what these things are going to do when they become sentient I don't think it's possible if you if Elon is correct if you let's correct and there's something it's a million times smarter than human beings And somehow or another is why would we let people govern?
Why would we let people build that stupid fucking rail station in California? That's cost how much money and it's produced what how much how much drag would something why would they let people do that? When you get a I do that if something's a billion times smarter than human beings. It's gonna go We're not building a rail station for these fat Fox.
No, I mean seriously It's gonna go why would we build a rail station for these people so they can get drunk and go fight each other Well, how about we get rid of them? Well, maybe it's we don't even need to do that because we can make you travel Instantaneously from there right create little mini wormholes all over the country. You don't need a car anymore Yeah, just press a button and all of a sudden you're at Starbucks, you know, we'll do something Yeah, I just got I just look at technology and I go It's made the world better in many ways, but a lot of ways it hasn't and it did stop around 2014 2015 a lot of the new things started that came in made the world to me very impersonal Corporate sterile and cold. Yeah, and the experiences that you get now like I you know there was like If you you know I went with a friend of mine We were in a McDonald's and like you order on a touchscreen.
There's nobody there this and I'm your kid going hey I ordered him a flurry some woman screaming out of where's the receipt? What's receipt? He's like, I'm like what there's a weirdness when you take people out of everything you take people out of everything and then you don't also Have no purpose right especially consider the high number of unemployed people and check down people and then people that have Whatever their job is has nothing to do with what they enjoy So if they just do the job and then afterwards it just watching television all day That's a lot of people watching their phone. Yeah, totally games There's a lot of people that don't have any purpose right don't have a feeling of purpose They don't have a thing that they're connected to but some experiences are much worse now than they were sure before they were digitized Like I do think there was just pressing a button and getting something on Amazon is much easier But there was something nice about going out in December during the Christmas season and like going to get From places and seeing people and like the struggle of like getting the thing you want It was something I bet you were expanding energy walking around you get a cup of coffee You see people if we destroy all of that what happens to the human psyche?
That's my question well if we had an anxiety meter if we could see like anxiety like levels of measurable anxiety over time I guarantee you from like whatever the age of the internet kicked in so it's like what 94 or something like that I think it probably slowly ramped up until social media came up and then it's probably significantly higher than it's ever been before Without real threats totally like just regular anxiety from reading things on your phone and interacting with things online Well people are very you know attached to this idea that They have to weigh in on everything that they have to have a fully formed opinion on everything And and the horrors of the world are on full display in front of them all the time Yeah And they need to then not only view them which is scarring in and of itself But then they need to contextualize them in a way that makes sense Yeah, which I think is also another level of stress. Am I a good person? Am I do I have the right thoughts about this thing? Am I being you know so that to me is also another level of stress where like you would have never had to there were people when I Grew up that just were really good at one thing and they didn't need to have an opinion on something that was happening I had you know a world away I can have the knowledge and they were forced into expressing that opinion Yeah And they were able to live in a much simpler way in a much happier way with real genuine connections to people And I think the fact that nobody feels like they're able to do that like the generation that's coming up You know the younger people I they seem better off like the zoomers or whatever they are They seem to be a little they have a little a dose of nihilism, but I think it's appropriate They're a little you know good sense of humor.
They're skeptical. They're a little cynical They've seen all of these institutions, you know turn out a lot of garbage and I think they're they're into you know Some of the crypto stuff. They're into like, you know, they're self starters. They are they're not institutionalists everyone I grew up with and the generation directly under me.
They're all institutionalists They believe very strongly that knowledge is given through an approved whether you're at NYU or whether it's the State Department or whether it's a board Or whether it's or whether it's a nonprofit that commissioned to study that proved the thing a lot of these kids do not think for themselves They do and they're not kids during the 30s by the way and they're in the 30s or 40s They don't think for themselves. They've been taught that thinking for themselves is bad. It's racist or it's it's it can lead you down a road You don't want to go on it's some, you know, whatever it's misogynist It's homophobic like whatever questions you're asking. Why are the Padres get why are the Padres have to wear gay uniforms?
Like that doesn't make any sense to me Like as a gay person. I never said why I need the Padres to be gay. Why are the Padres guy? How does the Padres uniform look like what they're making them wear like gay things on a uniform like pride stuff?
It's like pride stuff. I don't think it's gonna build on your head But I think it's like pride stuff. I'm playing Dearborn. It's not gonna.
It's not gonna go well But it's like why is City Bank gay? Why is chase? Why is chase gay? What is it?
Why does this help anyone that a corporation is trans? Why is Chibani over trans? What's the point of this? I don't understand.
Does this get people health care? Does this make people happy? Does this satisfy it make some people happy? It makes some people happy that I worry about because I just don't understand and it makes More people angry.
That's what game averages lost 11 points in support more people are annoyed They're like we're all cool with however people want to live their lives a lot of most people are but they're like why is my bank gay? When did my bank come out as gay and like I'm okay with that what could somebody have told me like what are we doing? I don't this doesn't make anybody's life better It is the it is just virtually signaling horseshit that ends up doing the exact opposite of what they want They think it increases acceptance it decreases it because you're shoving a World view down someone's throat and at the end of the day, it's like if I went to a restaurant for example I have no problem with Scientology I like it. I like Hults.
I like Hults children have too many rights put them on that boat Whatever you do see or make them work don't rape them but make them swap the deck whatever they do on that boat And I don't have a problem with science and I don't like the people who leave Scientology and then rat on it after it got them all These movie parts I think that's fucked up to I think it's fucked up. I think they're rats I know you've had some of them on sorry, but I think they're rats if you are do something for 30 goddamn years and get rich your faves Shut your mouth have the dignity to go to your house and shut your mouth about it Don't then try to go on a your new era is that you're gonna die on everybody in this thing that made you rich anyway It's just an aside. It's truly but it's way Stop Tom Cruise. Yeah hangs in can you imagine how gross that would be in there?
How disgusting would it be if Tom Cruise went out and he's like, you know, so I told you really be shut the fuck up your top gun Your top gun this worked whether you're gay or not they covered it up. They covered it up. You said you did something wrong They said well audit you will put you in the box. You're fine.
Give us some money live on this mansion It's all fine, but if I went to my bank and it was just all Scientology for the month of June I would go this is a lot. Do you know what I mean? So to me, I think it's like this weird aesthetic politics that people have where they just they need to pin ribbons on themselves And I'm a good person I have no problem with the polyamorous orgy happening at Chase or whatever Just shut up This whole country right now is being torn apart by people who need to feel like they're good people And they need to project their life onto other people just to just live in that life people disagree with you That's why I have good friends. I disagree with like on fundamental things foundational things and I don't care I don't care because I think they're funny.
I think their lives are funny. They're bad people Many my friends are not good people. I wouldn't even introduce them to other people I cared about But they entertain me and that used to be okay used to be able to go I like that guy's entertaining people go He's crazy. He was in jail.
You know, eh, you always minimize you minimize that you go sure he was maybe I don't know what happened between him and her someone fell down his stairs He's fun sometimes and you should be able to do that not everyone's gonna agree with you not everyone's gonna agree with you It's okay. You got a life is too short. No, you want that. You don't want everybody to agree No, you want to live in a world of texture.
Yes. Yeah, you want to live in a world You want to have the Joey Diaz's of the world totally you want to have some wild people out there The fun and that the problem generation under me is they're all very like this and they all went to the same liberal arts schools that have taught them like this orderly way of processing information and They're all afraid to like they like say things they say them in a very well Well, the well the rape gangter gangs did a reaping well, that's bad But there's a lot of I don't know it's been proven and there's a lot of racism like if they just always they're so afraid of having an Independent thought because they've been programmed their entire lives. I don't realize it. They've been programmed their entire lives to believe a certain set of things and their Self-worth depends on those things mattering the school you went to the internship you got the corporation who's dick You have to suck sometimes literally to stay in it That is where they derive their self-worth from so their entire world crumbles if you challenge any of their ideas This episode is brought to you by visible How many of you are currently listening to this podcast on your phone if you are Chronically online like most of us are these days your wireless network should be too with visible you get unlimited 5g and unlimited hot spot All powered by Verizon's 5g network the perks of big wireless for half the cost visible isn't just a wireless plan It's unlimited wireless designed to keep you connected and no contract holding you back switch today at visible dot-com Plan start at just $25 a month or get our premium visible plus pro plan and save $10 on your first month when you use promo code Rogan an exclusive offer for podcast listeners.
Yeah. Yeah, and it's um It's very confusing for young people, you know because the whole thing acts like a religion It acts like a cult and you have to kind of go along with every aspect of it Or you'll be excommunicated Yeah, you'll be kicked out just like you kick down a Scientology you kick it out And if your life is and it's sterile and it's corporate and it's boring and and that's me is one of my biggest problems with With a lot of people that I speak to is that they seem genuinely Afraid to to use their minds for more than you know what the allotted functions are you need to fight express themselves? Yeah, yeah, they're gonna entertain thoughts in their own head. They want to avoid the punishment.
Yeah, you know, it's a scary punishment Have you seen this a new army hammer movie that is out now? No, but some vigilante movie. He's great fan of him big fan of him think he's great love everything he's doing and I like it. I like you can't get canceled people come right back.
Well, I don't know if he's necessarily coming back I mean if this movie is gonna bring him back. I should say I mean what did he say? I mean he said he wanted to eat girls. He was he wanted to eat a couple of people You know, is that a problem?
But is it real is it just crazy talk even if it was even if it was is it consensual or not? I mean is it just saying wild things like what is it? What is it? He was he's fantasy was that we wanted to be accountable?
That was his like fantasy that was his kink now it was fake But if it if he was in a situation where could have been real, yeah, I would have tried a heart If army hammer had the money to arrange this and some people in our country do if you're the money to arrange it He's trying to heart 1000% and by the way Doesn't make me hate him doesn't make me hit him as long as the person was dead already. I'm against it I would never do it But if you told me this is how open I am to different people if you told me army hammer There was somebody died and there was a heart and army hammer tried a little bit of the heart. I'd go hey Fine, do you know the story of general buck naked? No general but naked is a guy in Liberia So Liberia is a part of Africa.
I don't fuck this up. So let's be let's check on this I think what happened in Liberia is they released a bunch of slaves from the United States and sent them to Liberia Like after slavery was abolished right and I think Liberia has had a series of civil wars like a really crazy brutal ones and one of them There's this guy named general but naked and vice-cover this guy they interviewed him and essentially now he's a priest He's a preacher and he gave his love to Jesus Christ and saved but back then We'll go for he would talk about how he would go into war completely naked and then they would kidnap children of the opposing army cut their heart out and eat it for protection That's certainly an extreme way to do it. He did that. Yeah, but then he found Jesus.
So it's okay. Well, it is certainly better and that's Wouldn't mind kind of do that was I human sacrifice. They did a lot of human sacrifice along with the Aztecs What happened with Liberia? Is that an accurate depiction?
I don't want to fuck this up So Liberia was established in 1822 by the American Colonization Society as a refuge for formerly enslaved and freeborn black Africans to relocate to Africa Yeah, there it is over several decades roughly roughly 16,000 freed slaves known as America librarians migrated there while envisioned as a sanctuary The nation later faced its own internal scandals regarding forced labor and human exploitation Yeah, interesting. Uh-huh. Um, see if you can find that general butt naked guy though. This guy this whole story is fucking crazy.
Is this it? Okay, jeez, yeah form his own militia of several dozen fighting several dozen fighters known as the naked base commandos or butt naked brigade Most of whom were children as young as nine operating under the Monrovia area with his unit I say his name Blahi Blahi Blahi. I'm not sure how to say his name became known as wearing only shoes and magic charms And eventually adopted the nom de guillard general butt naked his fighters followed his patterns of dress which in line with his distorted emulation of Animus tradition believed he could Believe could make one immune to bullets to fund his wartime activities. He and secure a steady supply of drugs for his fighters Blahi allegedly traded locally mined diamonds and gold to Mexican drug cartels exchange for guns and cocaine Let's fucking go You can scripted many of his fighters and according to some accounts lace the food he fed them with cocaine along with showing them Jean Claude van Damme films and to Explaining them that killing people was a game in an effort to uproot the fear of death His fighters he and his fighters perpetrated numerous atrocities Although the exact extent of the crimes they committed have been subjected to dispute frequently discussed the alleged atrocities perpetrated Which according to Blahi including murders cannibalism and human sacrifice?
He has repeatedly estimated that the naked base commandos were ultimately responsible for 20,000 deaths a claim which was coming to criticism Yeah, and he's alive now and he's really sure no, yeah, have them on and I bet he's a lovely person That's the thing you have my I'd like I would hear you open invitation. He's I open invitation That's good Jesus. He's led a full life and there's something about someone who has led a full life this man has led a full life Yes, it looks like people general but naked Crazy it's a imagine seeing a dude naked was dong flopping running out you with an AK-47 with kids blood all over his face I mean that's I mean that's disturbing But I imagine that there are very rich people in our country seeing that and paying good money to see it one of the things we were talking about with Before the show started yeah, we're out in the hallway. We were talking about how there's a giant chunk of the world It's fucked.
Yeah, and what's coming in England. It's not like it's not unusual for other parts of the world You know if you go to Karachi, that's what life is chaos Yeah, but it's chaos is making its way into these protected bubbles and that's what's freaking people out We live in a very privileged even even the poorest and the worst which is obviously, you know, it's not to minimize their struggles But if you go to any of those third world countries you're very aware of how privileged you are to live in a Western country and You know it also makes a lot of sense why the people in those third world countries would want to leave them and go to other places for opportunity And I think Immigration's had a lot of positive impacts on America and it's had a lot of positive impacts on Britain and other countries and it's not it's not the idea Immigration is all bad or all good. It's the idea that like you have to do things a certain way because you know societies are fragile This is what we're learning. We're learning that societies are more fragile when I grew up that wasn't a common thought that our society was very fragile right, we thought it was very strong, right?
We actually thought nothing could break us and You look at a couple years of a pandemic and most of the downtowns of the American cities don't look the same Commerce has changed in a dramatic way the Iran war proved that you know military They're obviously brave men and women are amazing But like the changing nature of warfare has made military campaigns very difficult It's hard to look at this Iran war is victory. It's almost impossible unless you're completely dishonest I don't think anyone is looking at it as a victory. Um, so I think our vulnerability in you know to Threats foreign and domestic we are more aware of that now than we have ever been how fragile societies are so when you demographically change a society very quickly Which has never happened historically it took wars long periods of immigration now? It's overnight people have to adjust to a new cultural and sometimes economic reality That's a very disruptive thing and societies are very fragile and you've got to be very careful about how you alter and change a society Because if you do it too quickly, there's a tremendous backlash and you have to make sure that People want it changed that people are on board with it.
Not everyone no one's on board with everything But like if you went to a lot of people in these countries that live in the bigger cities they would probably be very pro Immigration and because immigration has a lot of clear benefits to them. They get food delivered all the time They have access to a lot a wide variety of goods and services that immigrants bring a lot of them are awesome a lot of great So obviously but again if you went out to the suburbs and you went out into areas where the economies have stagnated areas where maybe you've had Scandals like this grooming scandal and things like that Sweden who's crime rate is skyrocketed because you brought in a lot of people from other places that are selling drugs and not all of them obviously but like if you look at that and Those people have a much more negative view of it because they don't connect the benefits of it because they don't they don't fuel them in their life Right, they were living pretty sweet They were living good They were living pretty sweet to ride in fucking bicycles and eating herring and safe out there pretty safe and doing what they wanted to do And then you know you have this influx of people you now have real poverty you now have a lot of people who brought in people that came from a war Torn part of our country. Yeah, not everyone's gonna be general but naked who becomes a Christian pastor and it's probably lovely now Probably seen in HGB you're like sweetheart Eight a few people children maybe but now it's better that guy not everyone's gonna convert not everyone's gonna be You're gonna bring people in that are people products to an extent of their environment like we all are so the idea that like You know women have less rights in these countries. So the courtship rituals in these countries are different The familial relations are different.
That's just the way it is. So and a lot of people there like that So, you know, why would why would those beliefs and systems of change just because you happen to be living in Ireland? Right Why would you think Irish women or British women would necessarily or inherently get more respect than your wife's daughter's sisters? Whatever and I'm not saying that it's all like throughout the entire Islamic world I think there's a lot of diversity in the Muslim world and there are lots of countries where there's arguments women are safer than they are in America But there's a lot of countries where that's not the case and women have far fewer rights and and it's pretty barbaric And I don't know why those attitudes would change when they are just in a different physical location The spectacular bizourness of it is that the really kind left-wing people who oppose?
Toxic masculinity right opposed this sort of society that's that we're talking about this this male dominated society like you're inviting in something that literally has that as its doctrine well They think it can be tamed so here's the thing with those people they love a challenge This is I can fix inversion of it and to an extent cultural attitudes do change over time people do assimilate to certain practices That's not a completely ridiculous thing to think but they really believe that once all of these people come to these countries and see how great it is To be a childless 40-year-old woman working in data entry at a large faceless corporation That's gay on pride month the corporation goes gay and when they see how happy she or he or they is living in a society where you don't own anything You know, it's interesting about family. I just spoke to a comedian one on a world toward him was in India and he was talking about how Poor people in India don't live on the street. They live in slums, which it's better It's better to live in slums than the street because a lot of poor people are with their families and they won't cast their family out Family in America almost means like nothing like we've we've kind of we've everything such an individual pursuit that family means nothing and Like that's reinforced like I am an argument with my father His wife has different political views on certain things So we haven't spoken in a little bit my cousin's getting married and I told I have a therapist now They've had for six months who I don't know if it's good I don't know if you ever know if a therapist is good or not and I told my therapist You know my dad is wife gonna be there and I haven't spoken but I love my cousin and I want to support a marriage I want to go and my therapist goes well, you don't have to go My therapist goes if you feel like it's gonna make you happy go So therapy in our country is has become a way to kind of enable like sick people to just become selfish psychopaths and family in America means almost nothing And it is reinforced how little family means because Like doctors will tell you yeah, fuck it. It's your father who cares So it's basically a thing where like I think when you go to these other countries and you realize how deeply rooted a lot of things Aren't family and culture and tradition and then we come from a country like almost very little is I'm not saying people Don't have great families here, but like you know America is about you And it's not about if you don't agree with your sister fucker if your mother disagrees with you blocker That's our country and in other countries.
That's unheard of like that's unheard of like it doesn't happen and You know that comedian was explaining to me like in India There's like a lot less of a drug problem in certain areas and he was wondered why and he goes well People don't want to do drugs like disgrace their family even poor people even poor people be like I don't want to be a drug addict my family's gonna think bad about that Whereas here there's people that'll shoot up in front of their parents You know what I mean? Like so it's just a different it like it's culturally we've gotten to this point where people are having less children Family means very little so then what is replaced that it's clearly the state and corporations and ideology and ideology So they've replaced families and communities well the ideology is your community because you're online most of the time Yes a giant percentage of the interactions. Yeah with people. Yes social media So I think that like that world we have a pretty secular world.
What is that? That is so interesting CBD interest yeah interesting I thought it was something that not CBD. I thought it was somebody gave you something. That's like it's you're gonna Try not to transcend or something.
Oh no, I think you're like it's DMT imagine I'm bored with you I'm going somewhere else for a few minutes. What do I mean? It's been a while interesting should I do it? Yeah, I'm gonna have a sir.
Are you thinking about it? I'm thinking about maybe doing it a lot of people have asked me about it It's personally that's pretty molecule thing years ago was an awesome Documentary you know this Andrew Gellimore guys, you know, he's doing so he's what is his exact discipline? He's a psychologist He's doing these things in a country where it's legal well you fly there and you do a five-hour DMT experience like intravenous He's a chemical pharmacologist neurobiologist and a writer one of the most world's leading experts on psychedelics very interesting guy and He's creating this place. I forget what it's called.
You know the name of the place I know do ayahuasca. That's an orally active version of DMT This thing seems a little crazier because they can kind of regulate the dose much better and they can keep you there for a long period of time Ellusius, okay, so I like the illucine and mysteries from the from ancient Greece So this place it's in Bakuya, am I saying that right in the Caribbean in March of 2026 and the aim is to study DMT X and DMT entities and attempt to communicate with these entities So one of the things that he's saying so he was just on someone's podcast Maybe Danny Jones He was been on this podcast as well But one of the things that he was saying was that they keep going to the same place that you can act like it's you're actually trying to create a map of Whatever this experience is so instead of doing it like an ayahuasca ceremony or doing it like you're smoking DMT and I'm you know Know some sort of a psychedelic ceremony with your friends and it's a 15 minute experience instead of that They're having repeated Experiences in the same environments like there's actually a place that you can go and by regulating the dose somehow or another over a prolonged period of time It allows you to maintain the state and keep entering deeper and deeper into whatever the fuck this is but it seems to be mapable Okay, so it was so it is AJ from the Y files Which is an awesome YouTube show if you've never seen it before and so he's talking about it doesn't take you to somewhere new It unlocked what's always there these guys are they're trying to develop like maps of what this is so they keep experiencing They're charting out different entities that you experience and there's a bunch of different ones that you experience and one of them I've seen multiple times is gestures interesting and these bizarre looking psychedelic gestures interesting I wonder if they were the original gestures I wonder if like the reason why gestures dressed the way they do with these dangling things off their heads because this is what you experience in the Psychedelic state and they're trying to recreate it But what they've done when I've done it is mock me and make me realize that I'm taking myself seriously like one time There's like like fractal there's millions of them I mean they were all giving me the finger like this and I was like and it was a and I said I go I take myself too seriously they go yeah It's like there's little corrections of your psyche that take place during these experiences interesting. It's very weird. I'm scared to do it Well, I'm scared.
I'll go in and it'll be fractals of JD Vance Yeah, so JD No, I don't know I find it fascinating. Well, it is it's definitely fascinating chase you just in the podcast And he did it somewhere in the United States where they did some five-hour dmt experience And he was you know, it's like changes whenever you are now was a totally different version of who you were before you had that experience Interesting, which is like life overall over you know day after day month after month week after week You have to you become a different thing you're a different person than you used to be sure that sometimes an experience like a psychedelic Experience can make it abrupt and then you instantaneously become a different person It's so it's so fascinating because we are having all these conversations about aliens and entities and demons and whatever I think it's connected. Yeah, I think what these psychedelic things allow you to do is experiencing things You're experiencing things that are already there that have been there all the time you just lack the ability to see them You're you're tuning into it pharmacologically like this to they're changing the chemistry of your brain and it's not an alien chemical That's the nutty part about it dmt is produced by the human body. It's produced in the brain It's produced in the liver anything releases when you die.
I mean, it's very poorly understood It's there's not I mean there's been some worked on it one of the big ones was Rick's Rossman He wrote a book called dmt a spirit molecule and he did this it was really kind of brilliant He had an FDA study that he got this is all like government approved study on psychedelics under the guys He wants to find out how bad they are for you interest He told them we want to study the dangers of the That's right out on the money. Yeah, it's amazing and by doing that and then studying they studied the Cottonwood Research Foundation They're studying where dmt is coming from so like the thought was that it's coming from the pineal gland So the pineal gland is like literally a third eye in the middle of your head now They think it's coming from the whole brain that they don't really there's the human body produces That's the most important part so the human body produces this of the most potent of all psychedelic chemicals that transports you into another world Like how weird is it that the body produces a gateway to some other place now whether it's perceived or a hallucination The experience is the same so you can get hung up all the time on the oh, you're just seeing things that aren't there These are visions. Okay, maybe maybe what you're doing is experiencing something that's real like it might not be something that you could put on a scale It might not be something that you can measure with a ruler But it doesn't mean it's not real and I think we are very arrogant in our assumptions that we have an understanding of all that exists with all that we know about bacteria and molecules and cells and the mitochondria and then subatomic particles like well Just the reality that we've observed is so fucking bizarre the idea that we know what's real and it's not real and it's just the whole Nation this is reality as you go to Tim Hortons you get yourself a donut you go to work right no I think I have a feeling that what that Experiences is you being able to see something that exists around you well a lot of people are very hopeful I wasn't one of them per se but this idea that like we were on the edge of some disclosure that the government was gonna start telling us Things about extra terrestrials and like remember that well the creepiest one that's going around was that they brought together once the pastors To talk to them yeah Disclosure because disclosure disclosure is gonna disrupt the fabric of society So greatly the question was what were they gonna tell them and so what I have been hearing from people that supposedly know things about UFOs Was that they were told that religion was created by aliens to keep people in line and that humans are the product of accelerated evolution? And they needed some sort of an origin story that made sense with rules and morals and ethics and guidelines to follow and something to worship Because without that people are lost and so that these aliens are created that well Please let Trump say that in a press conference.
He's the president to say that Yeah, I got to talk to them to get on there and go guys listen just we don't know what's going on There's straight so remove their clothes are open or close who gives a fuck anymore anyway There is no God you were all created by aliens and you were told a bunch of lies about it Good luck keep going to work markets up straight straight open markets up. It's not even that there is no God It's a God story that you've been told this is it's formulated in a way for your tribal primate brain to accept and understand Right and that there's probably a true story to all of it If you go back far enough and if you got the actual events that they were trying to lay out It's probably there's too much too much of stuff that's in the Bible that like is actually historically verifiable totally, but do you think they? Didn't tell people that because they thought it would be too disruptive Well, here's the thing There's a lot of stuff that you know what when you talk about the Bible right you're talking about a series of stories Sure, especially when you get to the Old Testament It's a series of stories and some of these stories aren't in the Bible that were a part of the religious canon of the day And one of them is the book of Enoch so Anna Paulina Luna told me about it She's like you really have to read that and I was like okay like she was so adamant about him I go okay, let me read it so I listen on tape in the sauna which is the perfect way to do it I'm looking at the audio book it's 195 degrees. Okay, I'm sweating my balls off I'm dying in there And I'm listening to this fucking crazy account right that is in the same Dead Sea Scrolls as they found the book of Isaiah The same collection of these religious texts and it's all about how the watchers came down and mated with the daughters of man And chose them as wives and then created this race of beings called the Nephilim which were giants that ruled the earth like this is in the Bible It's that they talk about the Nephilim in the Bible Bible they talk about Enoch like he's referenced in the Bible Right the book of Enoch the stories that are in the book of Enoch are fucking bananas Like completely bananas and the only reason why it's not in the Bible a bunch of rabbis decided that it didn't align with the Torah The Torah the Talmud I forget which one but they decided like this this this contradicts some of these stories that are in other religious texts So we're gonna keep that one out interesting It was a collection of these things that's all together who were these rabbis exactly right I mean who are all these people that wrote these things down You know I have this bit where I read out of the book of Ezekiel and there's like the hilarious parts of the book of Ezekiel And then there's also parts that sound like it's they're talking about a UFO like these are found experiences and then other things we're talking about a prostitute It's very funny right but this whole thing is a bunch of people's Interpretations of stories written down passed down generation generation written largely intact once it was an original piece So like they found the book of Isaiah in the Dead Sea Scrolls and it's identical to the book of Isaiah that is a thousand years newer So that was older than the book of Isaiah that they had by a thousand years the oldest one they ever found and it was verbatim right So they once they got these stories down They they wrote them over and over and over again and like priests would learn to do that and monks would learn to do that with their religious texts They would rewrite things over and over again as part of the practice and someone knows Some in some subterranean part of the government they know something or many things that they're not going to tell people because it would be Disturbing or just a story about Jimmy Carter the story about Jimmy Carter was Jimmy Carter believe in 1969 He had some sort of a very strange UFO experience that was very real to him very bizarre saw something Yeah, and part of his thing was once he gets into office He wants to tell people the story is that he was briefed They explained to him something about the reality of the UFO experience of what it really is and he was crying that he wept openly So what could that mean like what would that mean?
Well, he was kind of yeah And this habitat for humanity. I never understood I thought it was I think he's a genuine kidding genuinely good person Of course he was he built houses in the present. Yeah, he was never enriched himself, but he was also if you read books about him He was kind of an operator too. Uh-huh.
He was kind of that he was into the peanut stuff right he was a peanut farmer or something Yeah, you know, he was nobody gets to be there Yeah, he was sweeter sweetest sweetest Yeah, one of the sweetest of all the president But so they who is doing this explain it's just the men and black people from the the depths of Cheyenne military or wherever the hell they are what they could be doing is covering up years of lying to Congress and misappropriation of funds for all these Black ops programs and the way they can get out of jail They say go and yeah, they go and tell the government. Oh, yeah, by the way, we lied to Congress for 50 years There's no solid verifiable evidence that Jimmy Carter cried. Oh, of course, there's no solid I'm sorry, I'm sorry. He's an arc.
He's an arc Carter cried a UFO story is based on second or third-hand anecdotes Those are my favorite and it's not confirmed by Carter himself or primary official sources I think it's true. I think it's true about his 1969 sighting Carter described seeing a strange light but did not mention crying or be Emotionally shattered by it. No, but I don't think that's what they're saying. They're saying he was emotionally shattered by the disclosure Briefing you've got to live with that knowledge.
So he just got to go around now and Richard Dolan who's by far one of the best guys to read about About UFOs and UAP's very balanced guy and you look very evidence-based guy. He includes a lot of crazy stories But he never goes along with them. Yeah, Richard Dolan's really just got a bunch a bunch of books So I don't know if it's true. It's the Guy real he's the guy that said that he actually had to move a UFO right with a helicopter.
Yes, I haven't talked to him I was just watching it, but it's too long DC. Oh guys. It's all three or four out like it's not Jesse Michaels There's a lot of very in-depth ones with these guys. Yeah long But the good thing about that is if someone's like really full shit after a couple hours You kind of say you see tendencies that maybe they're they exaggerate or they make things up or they leave stuff out or whatever it is But there's something's going on right there's something that people keep seeing there's enough radar information There's enough video that doesn't make any sense.
We never found out what those drones were from that They're all around the bases and you're using stuff like that. Yeah, it was crazy. They mean people were scared to fly people say it's a Domestic it was domestic. It was us.
That's what I thought but then you know could China could be China flexing and pulled in a dick out Right check out what we have motherfuckers who knows who knows there's a lot of things that those things were doing that we don't know that They can do one of the things like they were flying for hours at a time And so what's the fuel source because it's not batteries down the US pilot reported seeing Iranian drones swarm in jellyfish formation? Whoa? Well, they're probably getting drones from you know, totally China Russia, you know, so they're the worst So the highest end of high-end government drones that we don't know about who knows what those fucking things can do Multiple drones interconnected and moving as one with smaller drones below the bigger drones like legs One of the sources familiar with the pilots witness account told CNN real alien shit another source told CNN the pilot described witnessing a minefield of drones in the air Holy shit, when did this happen? So 13 hours ago this F1 F15 got down when I mean he's talking in the recording it So I don't the actual bro how nuts is that they got taken out by alien drones in April whoa?
So he ejected from the aircraft the Iranian drones hovering in the air moving as one in a formation that resembled jellyfish Dude, yeah, there is a there is a chance that it is our it's DARPA and it's all of these countries that are you know You have these black projects. They have these secret defense projects and they're saying it's extraterrestrial I think if I was running an undercover operation for as many years as these people probably have been doing and with Eric Wine sign thinks he thinks it's like a separate branch of physics. He thinks there's a bunch of physicists We went into the crazy invasion to get these guys back. Oh, this is those guys.
Oh, this is how They got taken out. Oh wow, this opens up a lot more questions. Wow Wow Wow Right, right. Yeah, yeah, he's the heart beat thing That was the whole right that's what they said Yeah, so the heartbeat thing was the thing that they said that they were able to locate this guy's heartbeat His very unique heartbeat in the mountains where he's hiding Wow and everybody was like well, that's bullshit I don't know I don't know and it's based on some sort of quantum something or another What is it called again?
Then the fucking White House said did you see that today? What is it? What they posted something on their They're gonna announce about quantum computing. Oh Christ.
Do you think that God's been a joke about cue with it? That's sort of why I asked if you guys had seen that. What's the joke about cue? I think they have drones that move like UFOs.
I think for sure. Where are they getting this technology? I don't know. Do you think it's possible extraterrestrials are giving us technology?
It is possible. So the reason White House will be cue posting today What I'm just trolling it on it says And by cueing me quantum stay tuned Look how much they're trolling a lot of space. There's the most committed people I've ever encountered the other fun I've never encountered people who are so committed to anything the UFO people are close sure I mean the cue people are 10 years in going trust the plan It's coming and you go guys It's unbelievable how how dedicated they are to the plan and that it's still morphing and going in different directions and the data centers are actually Prisons for people who did the vaccine. They're not data centers.
They're still going and that level of commitment is what America is about It's about that. It's about not giving up. Don't give up. Don't give up You're too deep in to give up my advice to anyone in that movement stay in it because you there's no there's nothing good on the outside Reality is not good stay in that movement take it as far as you can what would the government possibly have to announce about quantum computing?
No idea. What was the quantum heartbeat thing? What was that thing called? How do they locate that gentleman?
I don't remember never coming out and saying because people were speculating that like how could you even do it? Right. I think I'm gonna podcast next day I was like that's not how quantum stuff works, right? But I don't know if they know that for sure so they don't really know what the technology is But what was the technology that the government described because they described it as very bizarre Name for it that involves something quantum and they said that somehow another they were able to detect this guy's heartbeat right unique heartbeat From I think was like was it 70 or 700 miles away seven?
This was posted on the New York Post secret never before you CIA tool that helps find airman down in Iran if your heart is beating We will find you Wow, so this is it long range quantum magnetometry to find the electromagnetic signal of a human heartbeat that pairs with the data Pairs the data with artificial intelligence software to isolate the signature from background noise And so how was the range on this stuff because they were saying 40 miles? I think they found this guy's with the claim was but didn't they say the range is up to like 70 miles something along those lines? So I don't know if you have this right is it even real? Yeah, but this is the thing is like is it real like so this is a post it's in the New York Post and I think it was from Did someone release this as a statement like what did they do to say they did it the confirmation?
Okay, so I'm warning Yeah, they're talking about yeah, they go see I just missing a miracle 40 miles away. That was unclear. Okay, that's Trump saying that Not so they're two different or three different speeches all going in together. I guess maybe they spoke at the same press So here's the other thing if that technology doesn't exist, right?
And they just made that up to cover for technology that does exist So maybe there's technology that does exist that's some sort of large scale satellite imagery of the earth that gets down to like a grain of Sand and they can find anybody anywhere they could just doubt find out where the plane is scan the area bam There he is there. Yes. Okay. We don't want to say we have this right what are we gonna say?
Let's say we have quantum heart rate the Technology yeah, we can find we can find you find you just laying max while in New Hampshire When that came out people were asking out why couldn't you she was in New Hampshire? Yeah, where is you know whatever? Well, it could be that that technology just recently got invented. That's right possible while they're still missing people Guthrie's missing still right.
I'll just we shouldn't have missing people then if that technology exists That's a weird thing and my heart goes out to her but that's the craziest thing I've ever heard Yeah, that's a weird one and didn't they like they looked at family members of suspects I think they looked at family members as she back and I think she's back to work in the story I don't know isn't she back to work. I don't know. Did you just say there's a break in the story? No, I think the story got updated recently.
Yeah, there's something about a note ransano claim Nancy Guthrie died After abduction well, that's a well, you're not gonna get ransant and Second answer no claim she died. That's a horrible ransom note. So someone posted a note saying that she died. I want money It's a ransom note that says she died.
What about what if it's she died? Just give us reading headline? What if she was sorry she died just give us what you want? It's not a specific amount of money It's just give what you feel is it's like church give what you can we're sorry She passed away give what you can we're not gonna say a specific amount of money So the note sent days after the disappearance also this is not new Oh indicated she had died but contained no request for payment for the release of her body three people familiar with the matter said Though the existence of the note was known the specific contents had not been previously disclosed So it's just the contents or disclosed that they knew that she was dead.
It seems like it's an insight thing It seems like if someone's involved at new them I mean I hate to think that but it does well like it was the was there a request for money? What was the first request originally? I think it was a bunch of Bitcoin or something they wanted what it was find out what it was But it does seem like the same inside job. Well someone certainly Okay, the real families involved maybe not I don't know Hmm, this is all bringing up stuff about Ask AI press AI mode you can't do it.
Okay, put it in there put it in perplexity How much do you think they asked for I bet 10 million 10 million from mom five five? Let's see tens a lot multi million dollar payments in cryptocurrency Mostly Bitcoin with amounts ranging from about four to six million and set deadlines sometimes with escalating or else consequences terrible This is this is insane, but think about it. Is that random? I guess it could be it could be but there was there was some concern that It was something that a family member did this.
Yeah, who knows it's sick Yeah, the Bitcoin things weird to like you could transfer money in Bitcoin There was a group of people that wanted me to advertise on my podcast and it was a Like a mean coin thing and that was like a platform whatever and then I was like but their like identities were shrouded in People knew who they were but they were also very secretive because they didn't want to get kidnapped And they split their time between Dubai and London and CA a you know came to me like hey They want to give you a bunch of money and I go what are they and CA is like well, you know, it's good You know, they don't you know I mean demons from hell no offense love my people But they were I was like I gotta meet them I gotta meet them and sit down and talk to them as human beings like ask them what your company does everything like that And then immediately once I requested that they said okay They'll all meet you and to buy and talk to you by the company I said I can't I need to know like I know like, you know, whatever They pulled you off her and wouldn't me interesting. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, so there's there's all these shit because by the way Here's a great way to fuck someone is to advertise on their show and then go by the way the money came from Russia Yeah, and you didn't even know that well Isn't that happened to a bunch of right way I'm sure it's part of some it's hard to know who knew what but like it's great It's what a great way to just make people appear compromised. So when somebody when you go where's this money coming from?
Maybe it's an intelligence agency, right? It's ours, maybe someone else you start going like all right I need to sit down with you I mean that I would necessarily be able to know who like if these guys were legit or not But the fact that they wouldn't even meet for a dinner tells me that Something was up also a friend of mine who's working at a company that's producing young show Longform shows for YouTube creators told me that a lot of the money is coming from Democrat super PACs because they want a captive audience to be programmed politically and not only Democrat super PACs But like super PACs that are associated with certain issues and things like that So what they're gonna start doing is like getting behind content and you know Funding longer form things on social media platforms and things like YouTube or whatever and then those companies that are kind of in the background of this Well, then say oh, we have an audience of five or ten million people watching this We can we can put political ads on it and and whatever else Jeez, so I mean this is kind of I think the future is going to be all many things like this And when you can do it through something like crypto Like if you can hide your identity like who knows if it's even a real company It could be a company designed entirely just for influence. It's it's very questionable You have the intelligence world you have the crypto world and you know you have the world of international crimes into kids Like they all are live in that world. I'm not saying people are into crypto inherently suspect in any way obviously They're not but there is a lot of fuckery going on with the intelligence often the crypto.
It's like obvious a clear Whenever there's money if you the amount of money that you can make in crypto is fucking bananas It doesn't make sense right so whenever there's money in drugs right like this is our rank on truck Yeah, there's money in anything they find a way to get a part of that money I think what concerns people partially about This administration is some of the crypto stuff. I think people are concerned with some of the coins and some of the you know Crypto will malani a coins legit that one I love but the rest I worry no, but I think it's a fair concern It is because it's legal it's legal, but it's like should it be is it should it be it should it be it should it be for sure I mean there's some freedom to you being able to make your own coin and you back it with money I guess but it's also a way you can loan her money and it's also way you could pay people off her stuff and do people into spending their Money like a lot of people. Yeah, I mean that poor girl. Huh poor girl.
They got her. They got her. They got her I hope she did well on that. I bet she didn't really probably not there's certainly in terms of what she could be doing sad Because as soon as they get mad at you for something like that Well, she the wrong thing and and it's sad.
You know, I also know if she was gonna be Meryl Streep, but it was listen That girl makes more money than anybody's true, but I think it could go on longer than it would have what a society I mean, I just that just hit me. I just like hit my brain that she makes more money than anybody's true I was listening to your take on the White House UFC card. Yeah, end of maga Yeah, and at the moment when that guy said Michelle Obama's a man Yeah, well, it's just the greatest thing for if you're a deep deep hardcore and I don't even mean the like the America first principles I just mean like you're alone for the ride you're here for the party a lot of maggot people that I'm friends with They're deep that they're not political. They're alone for the part they like the party right they want fun.
They're Florida. It's 4 p.m. They're drunk You know what I mean and they're in for the fun They have like they have like boat shows and regattas where like a bunch of boats will go out with Trump flags when they're watching that You have see a vet in their house in St. Augustine or Tampa or or fucking West Palm whatever it is and that guy stands up Because Michelle Obama is a man.
It's the culmination of things that you they're not gonna beat that it's hard to beat that that there were Houses to cheer when that happened 100% how many do you think over the whole country it was audible in Florida Florida I know for short was audible for short people cheered and it was like listen outside bars Yeah, the fights were good, you know, it's like to me. It's like there's this there's this every cultural thing has a moment where it just explodes And it's over after that, you know It's like Hunter Thompson has that famous quote about it where he was part of this thing and then it just you know We saw it happen with Like celebrity culture a lot of it like that imagined video during covid was kind of the end of that like people are like shut up Yeah, like really it was like they did that video and they didn't know it at the time But people really started to turn on them. They're like just shut up There's the other one the BLM one totally all of them sorry to be white or whatever it was same shit Same kind of thing people just said okay enough of this and I do think that every movement just gets to a point We've done all you can do you've done all you can do and when you are standing in the octagon of a UFC fight on the White House lawn And you're asked if you have anything to say and you scream Michelle Obama's a man that is the clock is struck midnight That's that I mean, I don't know what else you could do that guy Josh Hoke it Yeah, you know, that's like he's got a stick like he's got a character fun Incredible hook and so he's basically like a pro wrestling bad guy who also is a really good fighter, right? So there's a real problem there what should have happened.
Yeah, and he says crazy stuff. Well, they probably In retrospect. Yeah, if they wanted to avoid this Yeah, I probably shouldn't have had him fight on the White House lawn sure because if he said that at the T-Mobile arena or in Madison Square Garden Outrageous sure but not that big a deal, but it's the yeah, but here's what should have happened afterwards Michelle Obama should have made an undertaker like entrance Let's go. Yeah, all of a sudden the lights go light on him and then the light goes on on the balcony Michelle Obama she comes on a cord they should fly over if Michelle Obama had made an undertaker like entrance and got in the stage And then body slant like can you imagine?
Unbelievable that would have been the country just exists for ratings now anyway. It's all that exists for it's just that's all we're doing anymore That would have been unbelievable here it is She's in the ceiling the entire time Michelle Obama comes down You see Trump's Trump starts doing his dance. He's doing his Trump dance Michelle Obama comes down. She's got a cape Bro, it would be the end it would have been on fucking believable and she would have been president next She would have been president next with no election no election Vance is gonna stand up to that she should have descended from the rafters in a cape fought that guy You know, you know choreographed.
Yeah, it's fun fake and then she does an uppercut and he's on a cord and he sails out unbelievable missed opportunity missed opportunity Because why not why not have some fun? Yeah, why not? They said or wrestling event there they could pull it off They could do it and if she's smart she hears this and she's on her phone with her people Don't sue them. They were gonna sue him.
They thought about suing him. It's like, huh? Stop with the suing all the time in this country. Yeah, do something fun.
I agree too much suing Well, there's there is this moment where the UFC thing was going on where like the planes flew overhead where it just like I'm like Is this even real it's it was it was wild. It's such an amazing spectacle. It's hard to top It was pretty amazing. That's what I mean as a piece of entertainment.
Of course It was also the only UFC card in the history of the the sport where every fight was a knockout. Yeah, it's This was the that this is senior prom Everyone's got to go to college next year and you know wherever they go. This is it This is like japanese a moment after senior prom or you know some party that you have senior You know the summer scene you're looking around at all your friends You're high and drunk and you're looking around and you're looking around and you if you're smart at most people a lot of them Have this body go this is never gonna be like this again, right? This will never be like this again We'll never be able to get together on the White House one into motocross and watch you have seen Paul Michelle Obama a man It started when he walked down the escalator We went through a lot of things the guy almost got shot who knows who did it no one knows no one seems to care Whatever fine moving on but you know, he's you know, he's gone through many iterations.
There's he's been out He's been in it's the most it's the most interesting story really in recent human history and and this is the party to throw and it's wild because We're not gonna win the Iran war. We're not gonna win the Iran war. It seems very clear That's very difficult to imagine a scenario where we come out with like a decisive victory So instead of that we this this we did this how is there no more open investigation into the assassination? It's what happened there because that's where Ken said that he was told to stop the best Do you know he put in charge of it if you want it truly and I'm being very serious if you want an honest investigation put his real In charge Joe if you want if you want it done, right have them do it.
That's all I'm saying Have them do it Just have them do it. I would you think they should look at the Charlie Kirk assassination as well I would trust their conclusions have them do it. That would be my thought just Just a fun thought there's a lot of people that think it was a hoax and that it was a setup anything was I've said on my show just tell us how you did it because that's fun too It's fun Many men shot during Trump rally and Butler sue the United States two men who are wounded in the shooting They're suing James Copenhagen and David Dutch were shot during the attempt to assassination of Trump their Tony's filed federal lawsuits United States for their life altering physical and emotional injuries claiming those injuries were the direct result of negligence on the part of the United States Secret Service Dutch was shot the stomach while Copenhagen was shot twice Yeah, just assuming ever end in this country, but there's an argument that was negative negligence remember that woman Kim Cheetah who was in charge and then they put her back in a bunker who she was in charge of the secret service Right that's right. She was like the Cheney's assistant Yeah The slope of the roof that they were on was steeper if it's a fake assassination attempt I don't care I want to know how it was done and so does the rest of America produce a special or Barry Weiss Interview Donald Trump about how they faked the assassination attempt put it on CBS where she's doing and she's taking over CNN now Phew, so I think and she's now isolated herself on the six floor of CBS where she can no longer see the staff And they cannot approach her and that's true that is correct and she's guarded by guards.
What yes Where do you know this is in the news? She is she's an a bunker like the chain in the P. Octor and not 11 except it's Barry Weiss at CNN surrounded by guards and No one can and it's like it's like a militarized zone. She's in a militarized zone Barry in the bunker and Ellison at the gates Yeah, is this real she's unbelievable.
I like her more now. She hates me. That's sad. Why do you know I've said things but here's the thing I like her more now never did you start hanging you after your hilarious impression?
I she's she's turned on me. She turned on me a while ago. It turned on you She texted me and was like you're part of a world in which people are anti-Semitic and I'm like well Am I what am I doing? And she's like you're part of this thing and I was like well That's like what am I what is this guilt by association?
I don't like this part of a thing that's inside the medic He's like you're part of a cultural space of anti-semitate and I'm like so she's acting you to anti-semitate all these different people Because if the thing that she hated and the thing that she could say it against was this whole idea that like She's applying the same principles that she supposedly like which is like if you're willing to have a conversation with somebody you endorse every one of their views or if you Question something like Israel you hate Israel or you hate Jewish people Which is insane right and that was I thought she was the one who was like we should have nuance on the transition What happened to that right what happened to being able to question gender ideology and all these things like why aren't we? Where's the nuance? Where's the why are we holding space for nuance bear? CBS News boss Barry Weiss poised to oversee CNN editorial operations.
Yeah, this is what he just said right? Yeah, I saw that but she's living her best life is people say this is what she was meant to do and when someone steps into their truth I support them and she has stepped into her truth. She's exactly where she should be in a bunker guarded by the military while she systematically destroys CBS she's stepping in her truth. This is what she was there.
She was put there to destroy it She was obviously put there to destroy it. She wasn't put there to make it work She put there to just destroy it and she doing it. Do you think they understood the amount of pushback that they were gonna get? I don't think I think they said listen Let's just put her in there and see what happens because who cares like the but it's like these legacy media institutions are dying They're not turning around no one's going back to watching the evening news and they know that these are billionaire idiots Yeah, listen, they're not done.
They said let's have a little fun while this thing goes It says she took the helm of the struggling organization last month with a mandate to shake it up following David Ellison led Skydance takeover of CBS parent company Paramount in 2024 Paramount Skydance bought Weiss online outlet the free press for a cool 150 million and she became editor in chief of CBS news. Yeah, it's a lot of money for the free press Well, no because if you look at the podcast ratings it was you and she was number two. Wow. So that's why no she would get 7,000 YouTube views And it seems high it certainly seems like a lot but you know when you take into account her cultural impact It's interesting because like when it came to her like pushing against woke ideology that infected the New York Times She seemed really reasonable and there's this very famous clip of her talking to Brian Stelter where she talks about the world gone crazy Right now the world gone mad.
Yes, she's like very brilliantly lays out Why if this is what you're saying, you know when people are saying that silence is violence, right? And not actual violence is violence is violence. Right, right? And she lays these all out.
It's so brilliant Well, there's got to be room for nuance like October 7th was horrible Hamas is not good. We all know this however, you also cannot look at what's gone on the last few years and Think that Israel has not number one perpetrate you can call it I call it a genocide people can call it anything they want doesn't matter It's a campaign of mass murder where a lot of people died civilians have died many children have died people are innocent of died and they're doing they're starting to do something similar in southern Lebanon and They're now talking about Turkey going by the way Turkey also is a part Turkey is an eight of fucking country So the idea that any criticism of Netanyahu or these really government or Israel or our relationship with Israel or the money makes Antistemetic is an insane thing. It's the exact thing that she fought against in race and gender She fought against that mannequin good and evil black and white she fought against it and she was right She was correct to say you should be able to have conversations about when is it appropriate for a child to be exposed to certain Ideas and when should they be able to make a determination about how they want to live their life and like when is it appropriate for? people to call you know to designate between a protest and a legit and a riot and the silence is violence and all of that stuff she had Really pretty logical opinions on all that stuff But when it came to that one issue she seems very incapable of understanding any nuance or gray area or complexity regarding this particular issue No, she is all in for Israel and that's fine.
That's her. That's her choice and told and I get it But it's so obvious when a mark Levin goes the president's great because we're going in why Randy because the president's great He's the greatest leader of all time and then he goes well this didn't work out like we thought we're gonna make a deal And we're gonna try to you know and then mark Levin goes This is a failure. This is a blunder. This is a strategic thing and it's like for who is it for us It's not not a failure for it's clearly a failure for us But like it seems like the bigger failure would be for Israel that once I ran neutered because they have aspirations regionally Globally but certainly regionally so who's it a failure for and that's a fair question I think it's like there's kind of be able to have that conversation without being tarred and feathered as someone who's like a conspiracy Mongering anti-semit, which is like very there's a group of people that are but a lot of people just want sanity And this is not this is not saying and just like you were talking about with the banks forcing that shit down people's throats that Make them.
Yeah, yes same thing. Nobody understands blowback like the CIA turn blowback when you're like going to a country kill everyone and they go You like us right they go no Not really we killed your mother, but we're sorry, but you want them all we're gonna build them all they go No, we're gonna bomb you and try to kill you this is blowback. There's blowback when you shut down conversations and and In order to shut people up you gotta pay them or kill them That's the only way to do it if you don't pay people a lot of money or kill them They're gonna talk there If you don't if you limit that they're going to get angrier and the blowback is going to be intense Well said yeah, I mean that's entirely accurate CBS news. I'll go on.
That's a thing. I have for me for her I like her. I like that she's in a bunker. I will go on to that show on there things I thought was hilarious.
There was some fake story was that they're gonna bring me on for 60 minutes Everyone keeps saying that I texted you about it. I'm like are you doing 60 minutes? I thought that was wild But why not I mean what it you know half the staff is left one of that guy that guy Bill Kelly just got out Yeah, she got out and then she's got that docopole whatever his name is an evening news crying like a psychopath Who's that he's the guy who does the CBS evening news and his first his first episode He's in Miami and he's crying. Can you get that up?
It's unbelievable The news was crying because he's crying because he's talking about his family and how he grew up in Miami It's unbelievable This is the guy who was selected to to run the CBS evening news to be the anchor of the CBS evening news And like he does this thing where he's in Miami and they take him out of the chair because he wants to shake it up Barry shaking it up instead of sitting at a desk and doing the thing they bring him to Miami to like visit his childhood Places and he starts Sumping in I forget it was like a restaurant or something Jamie can find it He's crying like a restaurant or he's like choked up and it's deeply uncomfortable And it's really weird and he starts talking about how he had a hard childhood. It's like unbelievable. This is the guy Embarrassing first days CBS evening news savage by staff. It's state TV Whoa the conversation with one of his handlers during an ad break Pete Higgs said during his interview with Tony He's name doc Docopole Docopole.
We did it at Barry's request and because CBS news did something right on this I wish you had him crying. I'm in his in that restaurant. So his Marco Marco Rubio's moment. Is what he's talking about?
No, he's in Miami and in Docopole. Yeah, I mean, yeah, this is psychotic So he just keeps crying it wasn't showing the video. Maybe that's the thing you know like George Hamilton his channel time He's crying. He's talking about yeah, look at it.
This is the anchor the CBS evening news. So he's being interviewed. Yeah, can we listen to this? I can't Facebook's weird.
Damn it doesn't let me control the players Show up. We get a second. Get from the game. So I know what you're crying about Makes me emotional.
It's so funny. I didn't mean anything to catch it. You know, this is your favorite place in the world. Why why South Florida in Miami?
Makes me emotional. It's so funny. I didn't mean anything to catch it. You know because you only have one childhood, right?
So we get a second here. I can relate this is home people will help people understand why I have such a reaction Florida is where I grew up We didn't get left sleep. So my grandmother's here my father my mother my aunt and uncle cousins and It's where I would have spent all of my childhood. We left Because my father got in trouble with business.
It's like we laugh about it now, but he was a drug dealer But he was a drug dealer with a jail. It's kind of a hot thing that we say now, but the reason for emotional for me He's this head of the CBS evening news. He's the anchor of the CBS evening news This is what drives everyone so crazy about the world how fake everything is. That's the guy That's the best guy for the job.
This is when I grew up you would go see Whitney Houston go fuck She's good. I can't sing like that. Who cares if she smokes crack? She deserves it.
You watch this and he drives you and seeing you go this guy's crying his father's a drug dealer This is who's the best guy for the job. He's gonna have to report on that like like murder war Famine whatever and he's crying in a fucking in some Cuban restaurant But his drug dealer father so they had to leave Miami No one believes anything's real anymore. This is a huge problem in our world people that's the guy That's the anchor of the CBS evening news. It's crazy.
Well the other guy who was on a bunch of people attacked him after he left Right, so he left and apparently he made it very public. Yes Scott Kelly or something big public out or yeah So what was he pissed about he was saying something about they were going against science or Some of it had to do I believe with climate change some of that do with a bunch of other things that he disagreed with this That the where the news or is it was fine. What is exactly where yeah? Let's find out what they were but you know Barry chairs the meetings there and really goes on and embarrass yourself and on the calls and stuff Is nobody what she's talking about and so here it is following his criticism News editor Barry wise 60 minutes.
He's a computer Nick built in at a staff meeting. Kelly was fired by CBS news What did he say? Was CBS fired Kelly built and wrote a cover letter which obtained by the New York Times built in stated as follows your and Antipathy and tip of the future of the show has come through loud and clear and we have heard you therefore right on behalf of CBS news Ain't to inform you that your employment with CBS is terminated for cause effective immediately next day Why said I'm only interested in working in a newsroom that is built on trust and mutual respect, okay? So what did he say?
Kelly accused the new CBS leadership of instructing him to insert falsehoods into a political story and to include assertions that were not verified Instructions he says he ignored the collapse of values at the top has become untenable the leadership at 60 minutes is no longer recognizable The principles I hold dear are gone and so I must leave as well Wonder what exactly they meant though by the falsehoods in a political story and including assertions that were not verified Well, here it is says the story CBS intervened on was a report about the 2026 protests in Minnesota And the falsehood CBS asked for was to describe protest or grenade good as driving her car toward the officer who killed her Which Pelly said contradicts video evidence of the event? That's correct It seems to me that he was the lady was trying to turn the car away from him But it did brush up against the guy which is enough for him to decide the killer Well, I know but it wasn't it was not she was trying to run him over no and I think it But however that guy had been dragged by a car very recently so he's probably filled with PTSD I'm sure I think he got dragged like 300 300 yards rather I think it's very asking 300 feet. Yeah, but I was also fair to ask at this point What is the media like what is the media like right older respect very wise but like so it was a heavily inflated price for the for her blog That she sold and youtube channel, whatever. It's clearly there's clearly a political agenda to this you have billionaires that own all of these companies and We're asked to believe that like she's the most qualified for the job even though she's never random newsroom She didn't like work away at the ranch.
She's an op-ed columnist an opinion writer stuff like that great She made a lot of sense. We said it before and then she points hires this guy who's crying in a restaurant in Miami But it's dad and it's like who the hell's that guy so I think it's fair to ask like Do we have any trust left in these institutions? Do we have any trust left and like people that work there are leaving and saying I'm being asked to insert things into this isn't true? Well that alone just that alone like driving the car towards the officer That's not that's just not technically correct right it seems like she was staring at the way Why would they want to say something that's not correct when you can just see it in a video?
Like if you were running a newsroom that would be the last thing you would want to do is contradict something that's obviously verifiable So that would for what reason would you sacrifice your credibility because that's essentially what it's doing You're it's such a short-term play yes But I'll tell you exactly why okay because their main demographic is 70 year olds who are having strokes on their couch They're not verifying this they're not they have a very old audience that is not Online savvy. They're not looking at many angles. They're they're cataracts and they're hearing this and it allows them to dismiss it as well She did the wrong me and I'm sure drove justifiable shooting. Yeah, I don't think there's somebody's motivating them to do that for those Yeah, why yeah, well because she's in the tank for Trump because Trump promised or maybe didn't promise but like whatever He's useful in the sense that he's gonna go on top of the regime in Iran He's gonna sue all these you know or he's gonna bring Harvard College to heal for whatever the hell they did And you know she believes that and again a lot of this is just connected to her view that you know Israel's interests are always 100% concurrent with Americas and Trump gets that and he understands that so she's in the tank for Trump Which by the way if Biden would have invaded I ran she was sort of protecting him It doesn't seem like it's she doesn't care that much about a ton of issues.
It seems to be that this is her big issue That's a disturbing thing to a lot of people like how much influence do they really have on this country? That's that's what creeps people out because I think no one even really considered it before October 7th It wasn't mean of sure people considered it Nick Fuentes considered it It wasn't like it was an openly discussed thing amongst young people right it wasn't until we started realized first of all It was a pack it was the the weirdness of the New York City mayoral race. Yeah, of course very weird where they were all like we're gonna visit Israel Like what well, it's also in direct opposition to the stated goal of the Trump administration Which is to repair the United States and to make it great and to elevate it and to focus on the United States and to not go into Middle Eastern Wars Which was a huge very popular plank of his platform and to not waste money and saddle ourselves with dead and my ourselves in these unwinnable wars And there was such a gaslighting campaign the Secretary of State came out if the area and Warren goes Well, Israel's gonna attack him anyway in our bases. We're gonna be vulnerable so we had to join and then he went Not didn't mean that I Didn't really mean that we're partners with both things great idea and there was tremendous pressure on him to do this Yeah, and you know it hasn't worked and it's it's it's clearly not in the interest of the United States to be in a Middle Eastern War They ran tons of Jewish people don't believe it is lots of you know People from all walks of life don't believe it But there's an ideological group of people that donate a lot of money and that are incredibly powerful and they are really pushing this They're pushing troops and they're pushing nukes Dilic or non-conventional weapons are crazy bombing campaigns.
They're pushing troops on the ground They don't care what it takes Iran has to be either completely destroyed or it's just got to be a chaos zone But for the regional ambitions of Israel they can't it can't exist So I mean again and not an apparently conspiracy I don't like the victim stuff either is a bunch of people in America being like I can't get ahead because Jewish people are successful I think that's a stupid road to go down. That's a victim road. I hate that I hate it I hate it when gay people do it or anyone any group of people I hate when they drenched themselves in victimhood I think when you become a victim you lose autonomy over your life It's insane, but I do think there's a fair there's a fair question to ask about what is you know what is the motive of of Certain massive big donors is the motive the strength and prosperity of America or is it the strength of prosperity of Israel? That's a fair question.
Yeah, and like what about the rest of the world like how much are we putting ourselves at odds with the rest of the world? Indescribably the worst PR ever and you know people cannot justify, you know, you've got to be a very ideological person to justify You know Southern Lebanon Gaza I ran perhaps Turkey. This is starting to feel like this is like a friend You have who you make excuses for for a certain amount of time and then your wife eventually goes if they're not allowed here You can't go out with them. They've they're a problem.
They have a fucked up home life. I know they're fun I know you share values. I know they enjoy each other for a long time But here's the deal. They're not coming to the house and it can't be run of kids because you know That's what it's coming down to it was even worse than that the thing that drives me crazy is the negotiators when they get Negotiates than they want to black on them.
They kill all the negotiators and they're gonna stop stop killing the negotiators Yeah, and I mean, I'm in Lebanon. Is this Iran deal gonna work? Is it gonna work? You know stop bombing Lebanon?
I think we're at odds now. We're in the last two years. We are now It's we're at odds with Israel for the first time where Trump is really dogs with them And he's had enough I think he is starting to understand that his legacy will be permanently tainted if he doesn't find a way to extricate us from this war And I think on the other side and that's and and advance again for all the disagreements. I might have advanced about certain things He is the one of the only people in that administration who does push against the continuation of this war Which is why a lot of those neoconservative donors try to destroy him because of that I don't love his tech alliances.
There's a lot of things. I don't like about him, but there's a lot of things I think good about him I think there's and it's not like I don't like about him per se I worry about You know some of his relationships How many of these are just you think are like necessary for survival? I'm sure all of them are and that doesn't mean but they still need to be criticized and look that 100% not just about it at all, but I'm totally I have a feeling like no Completely autonomous person is ever gonna make it through that makes never never But I think the job is you turn the heat up enough Where maybe if they everyone's gonna do ten horrible things they do to right? So I think it's certainly the job of anyone who looks at this stuff to look at it and go Yeah, what is going on what is happening?
But I will say for all the tech you know things that I find a little you know It's a little like what I do I do think that to his credit he's the only one in there and you can tell and it's not that I Have some insight knowledge there only a tech he's being attacked the most By the people that want the word continue Yeah, and I think he knows his political ambitions will be completely destroyed by a continuation of this war So I look at all these people not as human beings even though they are human beings But I look at them as like they're running the show running the country So they will ambitions and it's hard to know their hearts or heads or how they feel from one day to the next Mm-hmm very difficult. So I think when you look at them you look at them you go. Yeah, he's a he's calculated and ambitious But he also is the one being attacked by people that want the word to continue Tucker Carlson who again? I've agreed with Tucker.
I disagree with Tucker. He the attacks on him are insane the attacks are making Kelly are wild because of this issue It's not a myriad of issues is this issue. Yeah, undoubtedly and it's weird. It's weird because it's so transparent It's so transparent and the whole world is seeing it play out and it's like the amount of gaslighting that you have to keep pumping Yeah, it's it's not sustainable What to say that this was not in the interest this was in America's interest You have to do you have to you have to jump around logically so much Well, this is also the problem with the justification of what happening cause when people will try to say Israel like God was saying they're doing the best they can like look at the drum footage fly over that That's the best you can do.
That's crazy. Like it's better than a nuke because I don't know it's it's just humane It looks like the damage of a nuke just spread out over two years instead of one blast inhumane It's evil. It's children being killed its mothers being killed in front of their children By the way October 7th was inhumane, but I should not keep doing that You know what you should not to do that, but it's also October 7th You know the people that got killed those are the ravers right right so those are the people that were anti Netanyahu Tell us it doesn't not the people that were also killed I think probably a lot of like mother Drake people either houses they killed a ton of people that were in a situation there Look, it's also like why did it take so long to respond to that? Well, this is another very interesting very important question Yeah, because there's a lot of people that say it's a state the size of New Jersey and The security failures are they're pretty wild and there hasn't been a real investigation into them and now who's kind of prevented that And they kind of made it illegal to question that it is real like people were like writing about that and going What the hell is going on but like no legal well There was they've made a law and you can look this up about things like this in Israel because during wartime They haven't had an election no since October 7th no, right?
Right Right and Ukraine hasn't had an election nobody said in all right so if I'm leaving in a country in the leader My country just wants to be in a war forever. There's no democracy Well, you know Clinton said that Clinton said that on that yahoo said he wants to maintain a war He said it openly in an interview right and then a nice chubby intern showed up So I mean that's a thing you don't you don't have elections you don't have people looking into things and by the way That's not the only thing that should be looked into look into but look at everything right we're the 9-11 docs What happened we know why can't we know anything? What why can't we know anything? Yeah, you know this is all that it's like really so we're all adults release it.
Let's see what happened I'm sure no one did anything naughty. This is all kind of breaking though And I think there's one of the breaking one of things is happening with AI It's like all these things that they are protecting us from the good. We're gonna find out that stuff. Well, here's the thing I mean, I'm at you in 2019.
I the first time I met you was 2018 big J. Oakerson was opening for you in Toronto Oh, yeah, but then I met you 2019 and that's what six years ago seven years ago. Mm-hmm There were cracks of it breaking then but almost invisible like you couldn't see them now you have full on Like huge sinkholes opening into the reality that most people have accepted for their entire life Yes, big big big and you see like this Tulsi Gabbard this press release that she did this yeah Conference was talking about fouching. Yeah, yeah all that.
There's there's we're getting information now We're getting information that let us know that the entire system has been completely corrupted for a long fucking for a very long time Very long survive. It's clearly can't survive the way. We're in. Is it forty trillion dollars worth of debt?
It's close right it was at thirty nine no one thinks that's getting paid back. Yeah, who else to tell them to fuck off right? So we have a lot of it's China, but like no one thinks that's getting paid back the dollar is the world reserve currency seems to have a Limited at a time. I don't know but this is what's discussed No, I mean, how does the system survive this level of information people are not gonna Do you think that this whole race to AI this like Manhattan Project style race that's going on right now?
Like the future of whatever the United States is kind of depends on us getting there first Right, I think part of it we don't get there first then it's probably a wrap if you really thought about it Like if Chinese their first if control of resources everything shut off sure whatever What if it's weaponized my worry is that in the guise of fighting China? We're gonna become China You know, so I would take the government a lot more seriously if they weren't you know potentially I think like saying pound tissue Different government databases. So your health data and your criminal justice data and your tax data all merges and who's doing that? Pounder should go and then they go try to score credit score.
What the hell is that right? What the hell is this? What right? So advanced comes out and goes I'm worried about credit score.
It's like, okay. Hey, buddy. Me too What the hell's this? So it's a little bit of gaslighting in that sense, too They're like if China gets all this stuff, you're gonna you know, we lose and you go, okay So it's almost like China will enslave you let us do it first everyone's gonna be on their best behavior That's right everyone's gonna be on their best behavior.
We're gonna be watching them You heard that quote yeah, everyone's gonna be on their best behavior This is what these but the world economic from people like that They don't have an interest in you owning a house or farming land or starting a business or they don't have any interest in that there It does not serve them at all. It did for a while But their economic Projection is that's not gonna be possible for you. So what they're gonna do they're building bunkers They're hoarding all the wealth and they're you know, heavily invested in all the say I and one of the reasons I think that we have to strike it with Iran as well as UAE money props up Hollywood all these startups It props up all the AI a lot of it a lot of it money's coming from Qatar and UAE And they're an armed basis can blow off the earth in those countries those countries getting attacked because of this war and they're a huge financier of American startups and some AI startups so like One thing that I wonder about all of this is just how much this just does seem now to be a high-level chess game About the the future and what is and isn't possible But the only thing that makes me personally happy is that Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump just bought an island That gives the Romanian people are really excited they're really excited to see other so they believe they burn the Prime Minister's house The president or whoever they could just start lighting houses on fire and that's coming by the way. They just didn't Belfast That's coming people starting to light things on fires coming.
That's coming. I'm not calling for it I'm not saying it's good, but it's coming because voting's become fake No one cares, you know people are threads It's fake. It's fake. It's so obvious.
It's fake It's all fake so the only and you know I'm not calling for it's bad, but fire is real If you ask the people at pal stage of Malibu and whatever I like to pal say that's stupid mall I like that But this is real people are starting realizing that this all this technology has just been set up to give you this idea that you have some effect And all the wild Jared and Ivanka just go buy an island. That's what's happening But maybe it's fine. Have you gotten any invites any bunkers? No, no, they're not you feel differently if you did I don't know I know you've had advice to do interesting things I've had invites to teal and I've said no because I would I think you know He'd probably sit me down and go listen to me you fat fuck you're gonna shut your mouth And I'd sit there and I go No, I think it's I think if they were gonna invite me someone goes This is the guy who dressed up as Kristi gnomes husband with fake tits and then we can't have any but absolutely if somebody said to me A few people gonna survive and it's just gonna be you and these people and everybody else is gonna die It's tough.
How fun would it be though? Is it fun? Is it fun if the whole world dies and I'm just sitting and having dinner with you any Vance's wife I mean is that the foot with Peter tail me and Usha and she just didn't say yeah I mean is that is that what we want? I don't know probably not probably not What's the best case scenario the best case scenario is a new era of enlightened people and enlightened thinking and soulfulness and spirituality and a healthy attachment to technology and religion and you know people's people's you know a common kind of a sense of morality and togetherness and love for community that's not enforced by government's corporations and armies Hmm, I'm not betting on that but that would be good.
Well, there's a battle right? Yeah, there is not it's not like one side is Clearly going to win we're moving in a very weird direction of uncertainty But humans today are way better at being people way kinder and nicer despite all our problems then we have ever been in the past Yeah, society is generally at least in first world countries safer than it's ever been the past Yeah, and it's also there's more opportunity to do things now because of technology that's ever existed before so but this is not Worse but it's not moving in the best direction possible like if you had to choose between living today the way we're living now Or living in 1976 in San Francisco. They're like, oh fuck yourself I don't want shitty breaks and live with these fucking people that don't know anything cuz that's the internet fuck that Yeah, you're better off living today the communication It would go see Janice Choplin, right and you'd be smoking weed and a burrito would be 50 cents and then you would go into a park and fuck and then die And it might not be as bad as one thinks and who knows I didn't live during that time So I'm sure there was a lot of pitfalls you get stabbed whatever like New York was more culturally interesting when there was crime I'm against there being crime because New York couldn't have existed it can't be 1983 in New York now times square as a mall Times Square right now is a TGF Fridays, but it used to be case But it can't be cast forever but again in that city do you get the Ramones? Do you get right all of that stuff?
I probably not no probably not no you need some chaos for art for sure You don't get chaos from TGI Fridays You know that kind of chaos but I do think that there's a time for certain things and there's an inertia that moves certain things forward Meaning like it would be crazy to think about New York in the 80s today Like no one's built for that life today, right? No one's even built for that like one of the reasons at wars don't work anymore It's not built for it. We're not built used to be built for war people It's be built for war they were built to like just like yeah, somebody calls me and I just go die You know, there's a competition on the door and it's like report here. We're going to war people were built for that now People file complaints with door dash I file complaints 1981 Rolling Stone magazine called West 42nd Street located in the heart of Times Square as the sleaziest block in America Yeah, now it's probably prime real estate.
Yeah, I mean listen There's parts of it that are you know, it's all prime real estate there whether people like it or not It's not necessarily, you know, but it's better because it's safer, but it's worse because it's safer Nothing's all one thing. Nothing's all one thing. There's still great art there There's still great music and comedy and theater and all that stuff is it as good as it was? No, no But again, it's just because the people that that that are doing it are amazing and they're and they're talented But the culture is so decentralized now in fractious.
It's nothing can stay cool everything that pop You know, what's depressing me about New York is it's become like it's a cool place where people just go on Instagram and post Of you know, it used to go to dinner in New York City You need French food or food you could never make it home You've never even seen you didn't hear they would treat like shit It was fun now you go to these places because Taylor Swift went there You have like a they just do like a high-end version of it like a toteinos pizza roll that patrol for Lylana Here's a French dip here's a burger people their burger. It's just a basic bitch mall city now That's really what it's become that doesn't mean there's not a lot of psychopaths. They're making lots of money and good for them But it's becoming a suburban city. It's a city where people talk about chicken salad.
It's a city where people go to Wegmans It's just a different city. It's Pilates and toddlers. It's all great. It's fine I don't want some people getting shanked, but it's not what it was.
It's just not what it was It doesn't have that same magic and nothing does it lay nothing really does and it won't come back. No, I don't think it's coming back I don't know if that's good about if I live there. I mean who knows what the fuck's gonna happen now with mom Donnie's mayor I mean that weirdness where with that guy's name Ken Griffin guy. Yeah, billionaire guy was a part of his apartment.
Yeah, billionaire guy lives here He's got so much money. We're gonna take it. Well, you know, it's all fake. It's all fake.
Mom Donnie's Trump. He's smart He's sharp. He's good looking young. He just is so crap.
It's YouTube It's like look billionaire guy can't really pump each building a house worth a billion dollars You're not gonna do anything to Ken Griffin. You're a city employee the mayor is fake Like it's like he'll raise taxes. Maybe if you can get it done But he can't it'll get dirty or crime will go off or it won't it's kind of whatever It's just not, you know, I think it's not it's it's more just the corporations rule and guys like him It's like Bernie Sanders. He's the version of the socialist you get what does it even mean?
He has a bunch of military industrial complex jobs in Vermont sweetheart of the man But it's not gotten one goddamn thing for 30 years worth millions has three millions has three of the Clinton sandbag Him because they're working for god only knows who the Goldman Sachs and the devil and And he goes and says Hillary's great. They're all great It's so great the systems fine I lost it's sandbag like twice and he doesn't and he doesn't burn into the ground He won't burn to the ground because that's the version of the socialist you get in America I'm not even like a socialist but I'm saying like that's clearly this is to you throw the bone to play gate someone It's also they're playing a game and his game is to stay relevant being a politician keeping a senator from Vermont You stay there forever. Everybody loves you Ben and Jerry's Yeah, is a lily white state of Frozen people frozen people and it's just a bunch of lesbians And I think Alec Baldwin now cuz he shot someone does he live there now? I think he does but I don't know and I like him shout out to him.
We've all moved on But I think you know Sanders is doing what he has to do to please that demographic of people What do you think happens at 2028? I think I think the donors want Rubio, but Rubio is kind of a buffoon Why do they want Rubio because he's not Vance is more isolation has been Rubio and I think Vance is more in league with the tech people whereas Rubio Maybe the central banking cartels of intergenerational pools of capital that are more invested in the war industry and might be slightly more Aligned with Israel like Rubio like there are different fiefdoms of the super rich I think the tech is relatively new not that they don't get involved in war of course they do But it's not a hunky dory, you know if you had a banking empire for years and centuries and you're like now all these new tech Fox are here and you're like what is this and you're like we make our money with war and sort of the tech people by the way But there are other ways to make money I do think that's we'll get the nomination. I don't think Rubio I used to think it would be Rubio, but I've watched Rubio recently more and I don't think Rubio He's just he's just too. It's a I can't take him seriously.
I don't know why Trump again suggests a Vance Rubio 2028 presidential ticket or perhaps Rubio Vance, so this will probably be those two interesting But do you think that people are gonna want to buy into another Republican party? No, no, it'll be a Democrat I think it'll be a Democrat. It'll be a thing wins. I don't know.
I think it's somebody that we don't know who it is I think it's somebody that we don't know who it is. I think I don't think it's a new sum I don't think it's a new see I think it's somebody that comes from a red state who's a Democrat governor a purple state We don't know who they are yet. They pop up. They're boring.
I think we need boring I think a boring person's gonna come in and just be like hey, I'm the president reasonable the show's over Michelle Obama's a woman And then a few you'll hear some of the country go Because Trump's a drug and you've got a detox from that and this whole last decade has been a drug It's been the craziest decade that I've been alive I remember sitting with you an election I'd remember me you an Alex sitting down I remember all these things were war Watching these crazy point I remember the I remember when Trump was shot I remember tragically with Charlie Kirk which I remember all of these things that have happened that are just so crazy and Now seems so far away and like they're so far in the past This guy John Ossoff who's that guy? Youngest and comments senator out of Georgia. Yeah, he's out of the moment. You just nailed it.
You just nailed it You can be him look at him. There he is just like a president. Just put him in your case. Yeah, just his neck is medium It's not too thin.
He's got that face that tell her neck is a little too small. Yeah. Yeah, I've A little bit more square jawed conservative Georgia radio host endorses John Ossoff for US Senate If they want to win they just have to go hey everybody remember health care don't you want that is he Republican he's a Democrat he's a Democrat, but he's gonna larp is a Republican in the same way that Spencer Pratt's like I'm actually a Democrat Worked as a national security staffer. Yeah, he's a spook put him in who cares it's fake at this point We all know it fake how much more evidence does anyone need?
Jesus Christ him Dylan. Sorry. I'm glad you're out there. I'm glad you have me in here.
You podcast rules. Thank you It's a great escape. Thank you. It's so beautiful because that just the way you're able to just combine reality with humor is very rare Well, thank you.
Do you appreciate it? I appreciate it. It's very unusual thing you're doing It's very insightful political commentary and social commentary mixed in with hilarious takes on things that's very nihilist Well, I'll keep doing it until I put it in jail Thank you, brother. Thank you.
Appreciate you. Bye, everybody