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252 Avengers Infinity Clap

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ALL THE SPOILERS! Deb and Doug slam through God of War and Krypton to FINALLY discuss Avengers Infinity War

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Hello and welcome to Noah Plaz, just the clap. The only show that has, in its entirety, finally seen Avengers in Fendi War. Zmahawk, just, I am so happy I can talk about this now. It's been, maybe not, we're not out of spoiler territory in terms of how long the movie's been out, but this is a movie that I refuse, I know you say you don't care about spoilers.

I do not. But this is a movie I refuse to say anything about it because I wanted you to have, and I've said this multiple times when I talk about the movie, the visual reactions that I had, which I probably might not have had. I did not say that. You look underwhelmed, which is so crazy.

I was not underwhelmed, I just need to unpack my feelings about it and I have some things to say. Okay, well, we can put a pin in that, unfortunately. You wanna talk about God of War first? Yeah, we can do God of War and then something else, and then we'll just jump right into Avengers.

That would be really unpacked the Avengers, but I have no worry about anything else in time constraints. God of War, I normally wouldn't bring this up again, but I've really been playing the game fairly steadily and I finally got to the point where, not only is it a plot really kicked in, the simple trip of going up to a mountain to disperse, all of the ones I was not turned into a God of War, I just realized how funny that sounds God of War and God of War, but. This game is so fucking good. The things I did wanna bring up in terms of that, I've played no one to bring up some of the moments.

One while in this fire realm, which has a very, I'm gonna fuck up saying this, but muscle line? Muscle line? It's where the searcher, the fire giant from Thor Ragnarok is, is it, was it? Missile line?

There's no TH. It's MUS, Flem time. That's not grammatically correct. I was making a Flem joke.

What do you say, it's a missile line? Missile. Missile. It's like, when you play Miffle Ball?

Okay, definitely that'll look like Miffle Ball. What was it? Can we continue? What was it moving on?

It wasn't moving on. What was it working on? Yes. So I was on this like flame realm.

At one point, a Tray is the Sun, annoying kid, but awesome combat AI. Looks at a, whatever it was, a lava fall, say lava waterfall and talks about how that's actually like too much. Like, and this of course was one of my big pitches in Revenge of the Sith. Okay.

From Star Wars, whether on that lava planet fighting, the Moon, Kenobi and Vader, not Vader, but Anakin. And they were like on the lava river and then it's like, oh no, there's a lava fall later on. You know, and I was like, this is what I refer to as over peril. You got a waterfall, you got a lava fall, but you can't have a lava fall.

That'd be totally out of it. Over peril. And I liked that the kid- But a lava fall was something that couldn't happen. Yeah, no, still over peril.

Okay. Just a waste of sea giant, I think. But I liked that a Tray is kind of like, I was like, thanks kid, I kind of feel it with you now. So they kind of had a joke that I had years ago.

For most of the game, or for the first half of the game, you're playing with this, I can remember the actual name of it, but other Leviathan Axe, which is like frost metal paste. So like, ice attacks, I can freeze people and so forth and so forth and so forth. And I mean, throw it, you can just try and come back to you. Yeah, it's really cool with the mechanics.

But it really makes some of the puzzles really fun. Because you can like, like lower a door, but then I can go the door and slam the shut, but then there's like a gear somewhere that you have to find like freeze. So the door stays up and you have to get some of the acts that you can tell them to get excited. Both both emotionally and physically, let's just be honest.

I'm happy that the game, for reasons, you have to unearth and go back to the blades of chaos as original weapons from the first three games from PlayStation and all the other games are on PSB and all that crap. But it's, you know what I'm talking about? They're like these knives I'm describing for our listeners. I can see us making jokes on wrists.

They're like these like giant fuck off knives that are like fused to his like forearms by these like unbreakable chains, like forged by the gods of Olympus. And at one point, one of the dwarves who made Mielnir was like, ooh, like you stinkin' for magic, what is that? Like that's quality. Like he's really impressed by the blades of chaos.

And they look spectacular in PlayStation 4. So smooth. The animation, just the new like, so I've been playing half the game with the axe and I'm like, now I have like a whole new, like weapon mechanic. So that's a lot of fun.

So you need to go play with it? I've been, instead of speak. You need to go to the forest and cut down some trees? I was cutting down some, what are they called, hell, hell, lockers or something.

No, they don't, they have names. All the frozen dead ones are like hell something. Oh, like walkers, duh. Yeah, they're, yeah, I can only walkers.

And I have two dragons. You defined the third one. Because that's a fucking trophy. So I'm, there's only three dragons in that game.

I'm gonna call bullshit on some of the Smithos. Well, it's three of them that the War of King had imprisoned. I don't know if that's, it's loosely based on the mythology. Or Game of Thrones.

Well, Game of Thrones is not based on anything. Yeah, but you still have to fight the white walkers and their three dragons that have been enslaved by royalty. Would you say enslaved? Would you say she enslaved him?

Because I would argue that. In the books at one point, she does have to chain them up because they start killing children. I don't know if they did that in the show. I don't know if they did that in the show.

Good dragons. Oh no, it's because they were out hunting and they would take the occasional sheep or horse and then at one point they took a child. Yeah. They were just seeking a lesser prey.

Yeah, very easy prey. Like a child. Did you, I ever loan you next life. Yeah.

I really should. There's a great part where this alien dragon from Marvel Comics called King Frank Boom. I don't think Frank Boom is. Yeah, yeah.

He's fighting next wave. And there's this little caption box that explains why monsters always eat people. It's because we're mostly water and it maintains our flavors. And we're both crunchy and squishy.

He's not raw. No, he's not. So anyway, the next note says all the side missions and that doesn't mean I've done them all done. There's no fucking way.

But I love that it's a God of War that I'm stuck into the side missions. I've held all the spirits like move on. I'm tracking down the boundaries of where I'm getting the answers. They are fucking tough.

I think the choosers are the slain. Yeah, no. Actually that's the name of the trophy you get when you kill and reunite all of them. There's a fuckload of them and they're all brutal.

Like at one point I was like, I was fighting one and I was like, I'm just gonna go back to the storyline. Like she keeps kicking the shit out of you so fast. I'm like, I'm just gonna come back later. And then we don't normally don't notice this in games, but this one kind of caught me off guard as I've really been enjoying the score.

You mean a soundtrack? Do you differentiate from the soundtrack and score? Absolutely. Score is great music.

Soundtracks and music and lyrics and music. Yeah, so I said score, I was right. Okay, so nobody's saying I got it. Well, there's a choir people, but I mean, it's not like a soundtrack.

It's not like Prince doing 89 Batman. Not bad, yes. No, that was my go to. Goodness of Guardians, had to go 89 Batman.

Had to go like back and forth. Yeah. So that video is bonkers. Yeah, it's by, I gotta probably fuck up his name slightly.

Bear McCrairie. McCrairie. Big M, little C, Big C, R, E, A, R, Y. McCrairie?

McCrairie? Whatever. First name's Bear. You can look him up easily.

Got his big break on doing Bellstark, like to go and rebooted it or brought it back. I don't know if he'll ever even watch it. Don't care. I know him from Walking Dead.

So this guy's no slouch. But really at first, I wasn't like, I was like, okay, yeah, there's music, whatever. And then it's like, I just really started listening to it. Like during like, it seems I'm just running around.

I'm starting to get stuff done. They're just shunting so I can be on a boat, which is kind of driving around in GTA. I'm able to canoe with my child in a severed head, who's hilarious. It's very funny in a severed head.

But yeah, the score is phenomenal. I might actually buy it. I think it'd be a great one to write to. It'd almost be, there's a certain one to work out to.

I think my favorite straight up score might need a fountain. I don't remember the music in that one as much. You have a chance to go back and see if you can listen. I know it was a while before I watched that, but I think it's a friend who looked at me right after a big break up.

Yeah, no. And she's like, don't watch it. And if you do, come talk to me, because if you're going to talk down off a ledge, metaphorically, physically, it doesn't matter. So yeah, but that'll work.

It's fantastic. I can see what's up for some of the awards already. I think it's like one of the highest-rated games. It's the highest of the franchise under that.

And the real feels, I'll be perfectly honest. I got a little, I got a little teary. Oh, catch. There are a few moments.

Please don't judge me for this. Were you really definitely thinking in her bag like she's, or some glasses are going on? Is it new light bulbs or you know? No, I'm sitting right at the window.

Oh, okay. I'm getting weird layer into my eye. I'm not right, I. Yeah, I'm really, really like in God awards, living up to all the hype.

At first, it was kind of a slow burn, but once it gets going, it's right into fifth gear. It's not overwhelmingly positive reviews. Yeah. I know I don't get a lot of work done because of it, or I get distracted, or I run like for things which do not happen today.

Yay. That was me helping some family out. That's fine. But something I distracted myself with, yesterday, I finally caught up on Krypton, which, you know, our five episode rule, we give a show five episodes.

It's because I tricked you into watching Forotic Mars, yes. Yeah, I don't like it. How are you in opening credits? You know, really, it should have grabbed me by Dandy Warhol's being the theme song.

You think that'd be, I mean, I'm instantly in. You haven't watched any of it, right? Nope. But you think the commercial's on sci-fi?

It's, I know I talk about the one's in the district to be the most about it, is that it's on Krypton and everyone's British, except for the character who's from Detroit, he's American. That's interesting. Okay. Yeah.

But everyone acts real well. I mean, it's just weird that they all have like high-full, in that sense. You know, I don't know what the thought process on that was, why that choice was made, but they're all fucking British. Except for Adam Strange, who's our audience sort of getting, I really like that.

Really pulled kind of deep. You don't really see Adam Strange in a lot of stuff. He was on Young Justice, but oh yeah, you and somebody there. That's 30 seasons come out eventually.

I know, we talked about it recently. But it's on episode 7 out of 10. It's a kind of truncated season, which I'm really liking is it's moving quick. Okay.

Well, it's also sci-fi. You gotta get your shit together and they're gonna cancel you. Yeah. As I said, I'll offer you, it's everything I love about Superman, the mythos, the villains, a lot of like the cast, and I might say cast, I might cast it as them.

Like the rank list, you know, the guild and all that kind of stuff, so you know, economical stuff. That's all great. It takes everything I hate about Superman, which is Superman. I can't stand the big boy scout, and I've never been shy about it.

As big bottom girl starts playing in the background. Actually, it did kind of crack me up. Things that really play in the background when you're brain thinking about Superman. I'm not a huge Superman fan, never have been, never really will be.

I just think he's kind of boring. You know, it's one of those, like, I have a Superman idea that I've never pitched. And I think at the end of my notes for that was like, this all happens at the end, it says, and had Batman clean up the mess. It was like I had no faith in the character itself in my own idea for him.

I think I kind of cracked a certain nut in terms of crack the idea open in terms of how I would write Superman and how I would hurt him in terms of physically, emotionally, whatever. Because I mean, Tomb's Day was like, okay, you have to have something that can match him as an equal physically. You know what I mean? And the bone shards are sharp enough that they hurt him and all that kind of stuff.

But speaking of Tomb's Day, he's in Krypton. Interesting. Makes sense, he's actual Kryptonian creation. But yeah, he pops up, bringing back the big bad.

General Zod is in it. It's not Michael Shrinkin' in his head. No, it's not, it's Oliver Queen's stuffed-ad from Arrow. Winston?

He's trying to take the character meme or the... It wasn't Winston, it was... It'll come to me. But it's that guy, whose name I suddenly can remember.

It was I since Sam. And yeah, I really... I really like it. I did not expect it like it at all.

But it sounded like such a flawed concept. Well, and it's like, I don't, origin stories are so weird to me. I don't like Gotham. It's like Smellville?

I never watched it. I couldn't deal with all the teen drama. Yeah, but he was a teen. And they didn't really have the production budget to do a lot of people justice.

Like, Doom is able to...bad. And they had him like hiding inside of humans so that it could still be Doom's day, but without, you know, a big hole in his suit. It's not monolation in his cast as well. Yeah, because what's more unrealistic, a crashed alien ship in Kansas, or a half-esque amount.

One of those is more realistic than the other to find in Kansas. Spoiler alert, it's the Kryptonian. Um... True.

I'm talking about... No, I just always pictured her as the All-American blonde to your leader. On a laying? Yeah.

Okay. I was imagine her as a brunette. I guess I might be from the comics, but... Yeah, but I mean, she grew up to be a fashion designer.

If you can, but... I don't know what she grew up to. I don't read... I don't read...

That and that was... You're getting into like the 60s or a Superman where it's like, I don't know. Just, like I said, I always just imagine her being kind of, you know, the All-American poor town girl. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, like, like, stand out girl, like, like, girl next door. Okay, it's gone. Sorry, I was just sort of like that one weird glare from that angled sun.

That was off of windshield or whatever. Yeah. Um... Yeah, I'm really liking Krypton.

Um, give it a try. If you... If someone said they didn't like it, I would totally get it and not fight them. You know what I mean?

Yes. I'd be like, okay, I can get grievances. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

I was kind of like, I walked in with such low expectations. Um... That I was like pleasantly surprised by it. Oh, right.

Um, especially on... There's a certain reveal. Um, and Oliver Queen's stepdad's animal was popped in my head there. Um...

Anyway. Uh, yeah, really good. So you're telling me that Zod is black? Yeah, well, Zod's...

That's racist. Zod, this all happens 200 years before she's been born, so it's the main character is Segg Elle, who is his grandfather. Yeah. Um, and I was thinking about it watching episode 6 or 7 where I'm like, the cast a guy who doesn't look like Superman, but has enough of the facial where you're like, oh, I can see if he had a grandson, it would look like him and be Superman.

You know what I mean? It's just a different... It's kind of like in a flash when you have the Eddie Thong problem. They look enough alike that you're like maybe in a few generations.

Yeah, but how far was Thong ahead? Wait, wait, wait. Like, 27th century, some crazy shit. Yeah, but still, they did have some common characteristics.

Yes. Like the forehead and kind of the shape of the jaw. What? I mean, I'm just wondering about that.

Um, but the Zod's the House of Zod seems to be African-American. You realize you said the Zods and I immediately started writing a reality TV show in my head? Keeping able to Zod's? I've watched the plot kind of that.

I forgot that, you're really good. Like, if they had Terence Stamp, the original general Zod as like the cranky grandfather character, and then like his progeny would be fucking great. Because you know the grandkids would be like, I'm not the Soggy, no my fucking grandfather is like. Maybe I can't give you a hug.

Like, yeah, it would totally be, yeah, it would totally be the early Bush twins era where they're like, you know who my dad is? Like, yeah, fuck me, I'm the president, like whatever. Yeah, that's what I did to myself on that one. But they ended up buying the book.

No, no, early Bush twins is pretty good. Huh? No, early Bush twins is pretty good. Yeah, they ended up great, which is nice and heavy, kind of heavy ending.

I'm just thinking of like other, you know, presidential progeny. I mean, Billy Bush? Hey, they're brothers. Yeah, no.

Um, and he can't do like Roger Clinton. It's like, nah, he gives us shit. She'll see this always pretty well behaved. Roger.

Shit, was that his name, Roger? No. That's not an idea. Okay.

Um, so yeah, I say give it a whirl. Okay. And like I said, it's an episode that really doesn't grab you by the halfway point. And it should, I would say grab me by a big reveal on the episode four.

Okay. Um, that I'm, I was like, okay, I'm in because that's flocking weird. Um, in terms of like, there was stuff like, I don't expect this to be happening at all. Uh, kind of a crazy, um, couple of reveals.

Especially when you start getting to brainiac getting the crypts on, which happens fairly quick, sort of. Um, so I'm good. Um, let's get, uh, let's get Walter Seale, what's the name of the character? I had to look it up, I was driving, I didn't see it.

That's Colin Sandin, by the way, it's his name. Um, Walter. That sounds like, how does a big black guy get a white guy named like Walter? Does this mother want him to succeed in a white man's world?

Or is this grandfathers? Either way, it works. That tracks. Just saying.

That tracks. So let's get right to the meat videos. I always do that right at the end, sorry. Um, let's get to the awesomeness that was Avengers and Fendi, where I have a list.

You and I probably overlap a little bit. Let's start with your list. Okay. So prepare for, you know, spoilers.

Uh, I would say we're probably gonna talk about this probably the rest of the episode. Um, it won't be doing very short, usually nonsense. Uh, so scrub or don't. Um, you know, if you haven't seen it, which at this point based on the numbers divided by $12 a ticket, most people seem to see this movie by now.

Um, of course I've seen it twice. So, um, big spoiler right off the bat because it hit me in the fucking face. Uh, the reveal that Red Skull's around. That was one of the biggest, expected, but there was no- Red Skull's around, but it's not Hugo leaving.

It's not, it was, uh, it wasn't a famous actor, it was just some dude in the mask. Like a Scooby-Doo episode. Oh, he's- he's- he has Pat agreed though. He's been in a few other things.

Oh, yeah, he plays him? Yeah. You know, it's not his voice, right? That's Ross McQuand from Walking Dead, who does like micro impressions.

Okay. Um, which works because I guess, I don't really want to re-watch it, but I guess Hugo leaving was doing a Werner Herzog impression for Red Skull, which I love every part of that sentence. Um, it makes me want to re-watch Captain America First Avenger just for that. Well, here's the thing though, is that I get why they have Red Skull there.

One, it was an unresolved plot thread. He touched the Tesseract and he was fucking gone and nobody knows where the fuck he went. Yeah, I dropped on the former. Exactly.

Just, you know. However, when he showed up- More to the planet. Pretty much. But he showed up and you got the first reveal of what the Amash shows up with Grimora, and the first reveal of the character in my first thought was, Who was it, Lady Death?

No, no, it's fucking not. No, but his- no, but his- his cloak is like floating cloak, wasn't not to that. Um, but I mean, that was my first thought. There's a character called the Unseen who is somehow tied to either Thanos or the Soul Gem, I'm not sure.

I was reading about it, but it's a newer character that I'm not aware of. Um, but apparently like it's- it might be not this person called the Unseen. Mm. So.

Like I said, I was just waiting to see if Lady Death was the show. I mean, the fact that I was like, wow. Okay, we're bringing it all the way around. Like, the fucking right.

Like the last thing- literally, I did make a list. If I made a list before I even saw that movie, Red Skull wouldn't even be on it. Cause I'd be like, yeah, fucking got stuck in the space and gives a shit. I feel like I put Red Skull in there so people would stop asking.

Were people asking? Yeah. I wasn't. Um, I mean, I, you know, I'm not the biggest.

I never really read Captain America. I mean, I'm not the rubaker run which involved Winter Soldier. And that was probably the best Red Skull I've ever seen. Except for that part where in Acts of Vengeance, Magneto tried to kill him.

That was awesome. Cause you gotta figure Red Skull Nazi. Magneto. The Holocaust survivor.

He's like, yeah, no, not working with this asshole. Oh my god, that scene where they're taking Magneto away and he breaks the gates. Oh, I love that they actually red that for first class. It was such a powerful scene.

It was such a master stroke for the singer trilogy. Yeah. Cause it was one of those, like, oh, and this is the character. Like this was born up to the- And we're emotionally established.

Yes, like, he's not just like a bad guy. He has a layer. You know, and they talked about the- something about tattoos that goes- needle will never touch my skin again. Yeah.

Fucking props. The Emicolor. The Emicolor. And made an awesome best friend with fucking the card.

Cause they only came from Patrick Stewart. Um, I want to jump to- that was like in the middle of the movie. Also, hold on. In that red skull scene, which we will talk about a little bit later, the- the uh, the new mob that one scene.

Um, did you think it was weird that he had the space gem and they're at the foot of the mountain? And they're like, it's up there, let's go. And I'm like, you have the space gem. Why didn't you just teleport to the fucking top of the mountain?

It's like so little, it's a particular interesting place. I felt like they needed to go through the journey. They had a journey. Yeah.

I know, but still. It's the whole- why didn't they just call the fucking Eagles and we ended Lord of the Rings? Um, which is- The Eagles weren't available. Why did they just call it down kind of like me?

Um, it's rare I make an Eagles joke since I fucking hate them. Um, first five minutes. Let's talk about establishing first five minutes Loki dies. Well, see how long he stays dead.

I think he's- he's not. I don't- I think he's- I think he's dead. I know you don't want him to be. I don't want him to be.

I don't want him to be. I think he is. But he redeemed himself. I think that's why he's going to stay dead.

He redeemed himself in both Ragnarok and- or by the end of Ragnarok. Um, yes! That's what that feels like! He's like, he's like, just he's all over the place.

I'm like, I gotta go. This is me. He's walking. He's on all his hands.

Um, there's a co-worker at the most that I can do that. Um, Loki dies and Hulk gets the shit out of him. To the point, we're better and Hulk now have performance problems. Hulk doesn't want to come out.

No. He doesn't want to come out at all. I wonder if some of that- I wonder if some of that is related to his reunion with Scarlet. I was with Black Widow.

I just thought he didn't make a mistake with my mom's. That you want to go see Avengers because Scarlet Johansson was on Ellen. My mom goes, yeah, she's Wonder Woman. And I was like, that's why you're not allowed to ask questions if we go to see it.

Because your first question is gonna be like, where's Wonder Woman? Um, so anyway. Uh, yeah, like talk about setting the tone. I mean, you just- you meet, uh, what's his name, not Glaive.

Uh, Ebony Ma, who's like the torture expert. We got to look at Voldemort. Yeah. And he's just like, don't think of death as, you know, a torturer who's sweetly- It actually reminded me of the purifier speech in Chronicles of Riddick.

Yeah. Where he's coming in and being like, hey, this is your new religion. Submit and be happy. I kind of like that Thanos has a little flava flava.

Like really, he's gonna sound like me. I actually was a big fan of the female assassin, whose name I can't remember. She was Creed. And it's the one- Well, she's Creed.

Well, I'm judging from her facial. I'm judging. Ebony Ma was a torturer. They all have slightly different names in the comics.

Obsidian Cull was the name of the group. But Obsidian Cull was the big guy. Mm-hmm. Something Glaive was the little- the daddy-stabby.

Yeah. And then there was the lady. Yeah, the female, like I said, I'm pretty sure she was- The daddy-stabby and the lady. That's a second one.

I'm pretty sure she was Creed depending because of her face case. Okay. Well, they're bringing Creed in pretty fucking heavy. Oh, and he really has some audio company.

It's alright. Um, they're bringing in the Creed pretty heavy because you've got Korean Shield, uh, Korean Guardians. And now what could be Creed in- It could be more- But I'm pretty sure she was smelting- And the Creed Titan pretty heavy in the Captain Marvel. Like, so they name checked the Creed a few times in Infinity.

Like I said, judging from her face paint, I think she was Creed. Interesting. Um. Because it was reminiscent of Ronan.

Yeah. Who will make- who will be in Captain Marvel? He did. Well, and this hurts my soul down.

I say you, he did. This hurts my soul down. Captain Marvel will be a period piece. Which means it's set in the 90s.

Which is almost 30 years ago. So are you telling me it's in another period? I'm laughing at your own joke, Deb. Um, other people I will appear in Captain Marvel though, I guess we'll get into this a little second.

You know I got Captain Marvel. It's fine. Oh, it's just not that way. It's not that bad.

Um, but Ronan will be in it. It's a second 90s. So he's still around. So Creed, more Creed.

More Creed more problems. Um, Colston's gonna be in it. Oh, yeah. And it's before he gets Loki-Poki stick.

Um, and apparently Fury will have both eyes. This makes me explain where the other one went. Interesting. Did you like the Thor gag with the eye?

The fact that they actually weirdly paid off rockets obsession. Stentioned with weird limbs and then they revisited it again when he needs a soldier. Which we're gonna talk a little bit later about the trailer and how it's different than the movie in a very important way. Um, but one of the ways it is different is that Winter Soldier's arm looks different.

It doesn't look like a Vibranium. It looks like metal. Like it looks like out of mentium. Quite good to keep making up like fake.

Just can't say Vibranium. No, you can't say Vibranium. I can say Vibranium. Vibranium.

You're just saying that because you're African American. Like Bronanium. It's like White Dushbag never mind. Wow.

Um, yeah. Um, Foxy Bronanium. Uh, doesn't work. Yeah.

And I've made this metal. Dola Mite. Okay, that was better than the future on the anyways. Oh, that was future on the guy.

Damn it. Um, 80% Dola Mite. The human 20 though. In case you've never seen the Rudy Ray Morick class.

Okay. Yes, I have. I'm not a black exploitation kick in my mid 20s anyway. Elephant Harlem.

Awesome. Um, yeah. Like setting the tone. Loki's death.

Hulk gets a chick kicked out of him. So that he doesn't wanna come out. And it was also the killing of the last, well, most of the last S guardians. I hope Corg comes back.

And where's Valkyrie? Actually, no one gives a shit about Thoreth's skull. You guys got a perk turret for a face. No one cares about him.

But we all don't know where Valkyrie is. Yes, we do. And Corg. Maybe they took a pod.

Go be patient. You know what? Yeah, I did want to wear a Valkyrie. Especially since they gave us the throwaway explanation as to where Ant-Man and Hawkeye were.

Which makes us. Well, no, it makes us for Hawkeye. I don't. Ant-Man happens like, I should discount.

Which is coming out like next month? Sure, sure. Sure, sure. Pretty sure it's not true.

Okay. Maybe it is due to, I'm thinking it's two months because Avengers came out the end of April. Yeah. But I don't know if that happens like just shy of Infinity War.

Chronologically speaking. Because he's on house arrest. And no one's disappeared yet. Like I said, they gave us the throwaway explanation as to where Hawkeye was.

And he was gonna say where Ant-Man was. Which I accepted easily and hardly. Hawkeye basically got tired. Well, when you saw the Ant-Man trailer, you saw him have the GPS inklet.

So it's like, he came and just got super hero. Like I said, he was on house arrest and Hawkeye had a family and was done with this crap. Well, and so they made deals for their families. Exactly.

And they were like, done out. Which made complete sense. Not one word about Valkyrie. Or, or, or, keep bringing him up to the other side of our belly and not off pamphlets.

Anyway, I'm gonna jump around this list. Some of it's like, right at the end. Difference is from the trailer. I wanna touch on this real quick.

I don't know if you remember the trailer super well. I re-watched it after I saw the movies. I was like, oh, I kinda wanna see. I really live some of the highlights.

And I noticed that in the running for the Wakandan walls. Mm-hmm, no doubt. Yeah. In the movie, it's the Hulkbuster Rimmer banner and the Hulkbuster Rimmer.

In the trailer. Is it Stark? It's the Hulk. Oh, really?

And that's where you see Winter's soldiers armed with different. It doesn't look like a vibranium. Okay. Or it doesn't look like that dark color.

I was gonna say, it's the dark color with the swirling almost circuit. Yeah, yeah. It looks more like his original arm. Well, the original metal one.

How much would I got? It's not for sale. That was awesome. It's very much.

I love, I love Rocket Winter's soldier. I wanna see like a rocket. I like A.M. I'm Steve Rogers.

I also like the A.M. Groot. Whoa! Oh, we're gonna talk about Groot.

So, I really love- Well, we also love the fact that Groot took Groot as an elective on Asgard. Yeah, that was good. It just made more sense. You know what, no, it made me think of the Han Solo chewy relationship where he understands exactly what he says, because it's an actual language.

Without having like a translator like Rocket or the fact that the Guardians have been at this for like, I think it's two years they say. So they basically picked up on his nuances. Yeah. Long notes.

Anybody else talk about it? I agree. It will be in the War II or the Untitled. I just played this all part too.

Yeah. It's cool. Strange just planned. He says there was one out of 14 billion that worked.

Here's the thing now. This is like the one who says to start. This is the only way. It is just the plan.

It's gotta be right. You gotta lose the one? I think he's trying to sacrifice to keep some alive. Because it seemed like they really hit that hard on that like, he goes- I feel like they're- I'm not gonna flip and then he does.

I feel like there had to be a very specific reason he needed to leave Stark alive. Yes, and it was the only- We're the Thanos in to know who Stark was. Yeah, that was for you too. Not the only one who was third with knowledge.

Yeah, it was like, what the fuck? Like I said, I feel like the big telegraph pretty well that there was a very specific reason Stark had to remain alive. To yell at Stark Lord for fucking the entire movie. Stark Lord was a fake little bad guy.

Not necessarily. Here's the thing. I got at the movie with a friend and he said quote, I feel like this movie should be called You Did Kill Me When You Should Have a Now We're All Alive. Because that would- No, we didn't say that.

You didn't kill me when you should have a Now We're All fucked. That's what he said. Because that's for Scarlet Witch and for fucking a Stark Lord. And Thor.

Because everyone their fucking mother actually sounded like a company that goes, Why didn't Thor, like, caught off his head or, like, thought off his head and go for the arm? Or he says, go for the head. You should have got the head. Or caught off his arm.

Like, he's like, he's an alien. His physiology could be rather different. They need to stab them in the butt. We don't know.

What's really interesting is we think we talked about last week, spoilers. I had finished reading the Iron Druid Chronicles. And one of the characters gets his arm cut off and effectively cripples him and all of the abilities that he had. So why don't you go for the arm?

Just take the arm. Instead of taking off the helmet. Are you sure the god let's not ride or left handed? No, it's just righty.

Because there are two don't let's. One was an Asgard. I really like it in my head against the table right now. One wasn't, well, the stones were.

The gauntlets were not real bad. There were two gauntlets. But the stones in it were big. Heaven fake.

This is official. I'm not making this weird show. So we'll see a stranger's plan or it could be strange. It actually comes, well, it will come to fruition because there's a second part to this.

Okay, what's your next note because I want to talk about something specific? Jumping. I've got the list. How horrifying was it to see Nebula like that?

Oh, I'll take him apart. Well, it's just no, but it's like the twitch that she does though. And you can kind of hear her pain and like weird, your VCR is not looking right right snaps. Oh, like her tracking was off?

Yeah. She was fucking pulled apart like a little radio. Which happens to me and it's indirect. It's like fucking yeah.

I don't know if they're fucking dead at that point. I was like, oh shit. I thought they were full on dead. But yes, let's talk about Nebula first and let me talk about it.

One amazing visual of him pulling her apart because it just looks like she's held in air and then it rotates around her matrix on her. It really does look like the horse from the cell. Yeah. But it's just the noise in there.

Well, it's like the machine winds plus her winds are just heart wrenching. I never want to see her gilling them pain. I said, I mean, no, but now that Nebula went off at the end of Cardians 2 to try and kill Thanos. Did not work.

Did not work. Did she? Oh, no, she stuck on tight with Iron Manry. Yeah.

I think she's on tight. Yeah, they're the only two that survived on tight. Yeah, I think she's on tight. Okay.

Just like cool. Yeah, that was. Yeah, she started out. I mean, I just want to pass Thanos like, but that kind of does.

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