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EPISODE · Apr 15, 2026 · 41 MIN

252: What Smart Leaders Get Wrong About Talent and Growth with Ken Eslick

from The Dr. Ginny Show · host Dr. Ginny A. Baro

“Hiring is broken because the best people are not applying.” That may be an executive recruiter’s perspective. Hear me out.In this episode of The Dr. Ginny Show, What Smart Leaders Get Wrong About Talent and Growth, Dr. Ginny Baro sits down with Ken Eslick, CEO of The Leaders Lab, who brings decades of experience helping organizations understand what it really takes to build strong leadership teams.Together, they talk about why the strongest talent is often already working somewhere else, why organizations can bring in strong talent and still hit a ceiling, and why leaders can step into bigger roles while still operating from the identity of the earlier one. They also discuss why AI cannot replace the human connection leadership requires, and why emotional intelligence, development, and clarity still matter.🎙️ In this episode, listeners will:Understand how leaders think about talent at this level, whether they are hiring, building a team, or stepping into a new roleLearn why strong talent alone does not automatically move a business forwardRecognize how an identity gap can affect communication, trust, and leadership effectiveness after a promotionThis episode is relevant for senior leaders, executive teams, and professionals thinking about growth, leadership capacity, and what it takes to move to the next level.Recommended resources:⭐ If you enjoyed this content, subscribe to our podcast, rate it so others can find it, and share the episode with your trusted network.Looking for ways to grow and lead?⭐ Let’s connect for a 15-minute cyber coffee and explore what you’re facing or what may be holding you or your team back. I’ve held a few spots on my calendar for these high-impact connections: https://cybercoffee.youcanbook.me/⭐ If you’re hosting an event and looking for a relatable speaker who delivers fresh perspectives, energy, and practical insights, let’s explore how we can collaborate. https://www.executivebound.com/speaking⭐ Gain weekly leadership tools and strategies by joining our ExecutiveBound Inner Circle: https://www.executivebound.com/innercircle⭐ Explore upcoming events and high-value resources from our website: https://www.executivebound.com/events⭐ And don’t miss claiming your copy of Healing Leadership or Fearless Women at Work for actionable insights to strengthen your journey: www.executivebound.com/booksLet’s expand our network!⭐ Send me a LinkedIn connection request. I’d love to share my network of over 29K members with you: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ginnybaro© ExecutiveBound®. All rights reserved. The Dr. Ginny Show content may not be reproduced, distributed, or transmitted in any form without prior written permission.Disclaimer: The views, information, and opinions shared on The Dr. Ginny Show are intended for entertainment and educational purposes only. They do not substitute for professional advice in legal, medical, financial, therapeutic, or organizational matters. Always seek the advice of qualified professionals regarding your unique situation.

“Hiring is broken because the best people are not applying.” That may be an executive recruiter’s perspective. Hear me out.In this episode of The Dr. Ginny Show, What Smart Leaders Get Wrong About Talent and Growth, Dr. Ginny Baro sits down with Ken Eslick, CEO of The Leaders Lab, who brings decades of experience helping organizations understand what it really takes to build strong leadership teams.Together, they talk about why the strongest talent is often already working somewhere else, why organizations can bring in strong talent and still hit a ceiling, and why leaders can step into bigger roles while still operating from the identity of the earlier one. They also discuss why AI cannot replace the human connection leadership requires, and why emotional intelligence, development, and clarity still matter.🎙️ In this episode, listeners will:Understand how leaders think about talent at this level, whether they are hiring, building a team, or stepping into a new roleLearn why strong talent alone does not automatically move a business forwardRecognize how an identity gap can affect communication, trust, and leadership effectiveness after a promotionThis episode is relevant for senior leaders, executive teams, and professionals thinking about growth, leadership capacity, and what it takes to move to the next level.Recommended resources:⭐ If you enjoyed this content, subscribe to our podcast, rate it so others can find it, and share the episode with your trusted network.Looking for ways to grow and lead?⭐ Let’s connect for a 15-minute cyber coffee and explore what you’re facing or what may be holding you or your team back. I’ve held a few spots on my calendar for these high-impact connections: https://cybercoffee.youcanbook.me/⭐ If you’re hosting an event and looking for a relatable speaker who delivers fresh perspectives, energy, and practical insights, let’s explore how we can collaborate. https://www.executivebound.com/speaking⭐ Gain weekly leadership tools and strategies by joining our ExecutiveBound Inner Circle: https://www.executivebound.com/innercircle⭐ Explore upcoming events and high-value resources from our website: https://www.executivebound.com/events⭐ And don’t miss claiming your copy of Healing Leadership or Fearless Women at Work for actionable insights to strengthen your journey: www.executivebound.com/booksLet’s expand our network!⭐ Send me a LinkedIn connection request. I’d love to share my network of over 29K members with you: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ginnybaro© ExecutiveBound®. All rights reserved. The Dr. Ginny Show content may not be reproduced, distributed, or transmitted in any form without prior written permission.Disclaimer: The views, information, and opinions shared on The Dr. Ginny Show are intended for entertainment and educational purposes only. They do not substitute for professional advice in legal, medical, financial, therapeutic, or organizational matters. Always seek the advice of qualified professionals regarding your unique situation.

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