#2523 - Ali Siddiq

The Joe Rogan experience We were just talking sorry I had us pause Jamie before the podcast you were telling me that LeBron James is Not gonna go back to the Lakers. How's he now? 41 what is the oldest that a elite athlete has been Tom Brady 44 I think gonna feel QB that'd be pretty high up there I was a current I was was Korean. That's a good question. How old scream he retired I think we'd be the next but not hopkins is number one. Yeah, but not out there

We were talking about how he beat Kelly Pavlich at 42 but Bernard had a couple years to incubate a little bit. Oh, yeah Not take damage and steal up the mind. He had the most intense discipline that I never got out of shape Which is also a giant contributor to the longevity never never was building back You know he wasn't like a 42 year old who was like, you know, he took six months off I haven't been in the gym. No, but no no no every day. It was running nutrition everything was always on point never buried So he might be the oldest of the past guys, but this is before all the science, right?

So we were just talking about the science. So Jamie, what are they allowed to take and not allowed to take? It's like the NBA used to like I think for like weed stuff. They used to say that is like a big test I think October 1st, which is like right when preseason starts for weed. Yeah, and so like if you're long as you're clean on October 1st That's ridiculous, but now I'd like I know in the NFL if you have a crazy game You're gonna get tested the next day. They're just gonna check you for what was going on with you. Yeah

Why would you play good? I don't think the NBA does that specifically, but I don't know honestly So what are the rules in the NBA in terms of marijuana now? I thought that was part of the thing that they negotiated in the contract to make sure because a lot of players like to be high when they play I think they might they might just have just stopped testing for it as all I wanted to mention names But I'm friends with some guys. They tell me they can't play unless they're high That's the same thing with pool players. I know a lot of pool players They like to get lit before they get on the table. Yeah pool shit. You should be late playing pool

Yeah, you feel things better Here we go NBA can randomly drug test each player up to four times during the season and two times in the offseason with additional tests allowed Anytime there is reasonable cause but marijuana is no longer part of the standard testing panel. Yes, sir Yeah, so they can smoke weed which makes sense. Let them. It's not what are you doing? It's not hurting anybody and they play better with it. I think that leave them alone

That's what I think unless they're doing what's it doing math? Betting scandal is kind of broken recently. Oh, no four hours there. Oh, no where players been called out for throwing at least four games Oh, and then where that's gonna go from here is kind of being speculated online. I'll tell you where that goes If people find out that goes to bullets, that's the problem The problem with someone throwing a game is somebody bet on that fucking game a lot of people bet on the game cases I've seen no or like the over so that player props and like he needed 4.5 rebounds And he has four and he's just trying extremely extremely extremely hard to get that extra rebound Which is like wrong way to me that means he's playing well the other one which was he was fixing a spread at like in the last Second like he sprinted down the court to get an extra basket with like three seconds on the clock when they were down by 10 Or seven technically to beat the eight and a half points bread Yeah, but so what he's just scoring you guys how can you ever it's just that it's when you're watching basketball enough You go like that doesn't happen that often why would you do that?

You used to be throwing the ball and just throwing it down and not you running down I know but if you can do it in score, what do you do it? I don't even understand why anybody would question that down by 10 it's five seconds to go the game You want that ball in the net? No, why because that's not going to change. Oh, we lost by eight But you competitive to the end you never give up and you know, you know, you're losing and no starters on the floor at this Now you down by 10 is five seconds ago. No, no starters on but it's not like he's missing on purpose So it's one thing if the guys like missing on purpose, but if he's scoring on purpose All right, so similar thing World Cup just happened like two three nights ago where they just got into the knockout round You know so the big tournament was every team plays three games to figure out where you figure where you end up to play the next part of the tournament 10 teams get eliminated Third place team for the first time ever can make it through and so there was it I think it was Algieria and I forget the other team Sorry, but if they both tied they both move through if one team wins and one team loses one team goes through

And then they're like with four minutes to go in the game They're kind of just passing the ball around the scores tied and one team goes ahead scores And it kind of starts a fight on the field where you see the other team yelling at the other team like fuck you Like I don't know exactly what they're saying But like what like and then it's like two minutes to go the other team sort of just stops playing defense and kind of seems to like let them score Oh They have to have mics on somebody they have strong mics now and they have people that can lip read They can pick up hey motherfucker you're supposed to leave this a tie Yeah, if that happens like you can't play anymore, right?

Like what happens to those guys they have to get suspended for that be the entire W both teams the coaches if you Really not it's gonna pan out but it was very what a conundrum. Yeah, how could you do that? Like I hate that This is what this is what I don't like about sports betting not that because that's about advancing But about sports betting is the even the consideration that a person is playing a certain way because they're worried about a spread Or because they've been paid off to not score or they've been paid off to foul You know like there's the problem with these things is you could bet on anything anything anything anything So if you're a crooked and when it's been like the most crooked aspect of the fucking human race over the past like 100 years Other than the legal system the most crooked aspect has been sports betting. It's always crooked It's for some politics politics. They damn near they're all the same. It's the same. It's money

It's anyway anytime is money involved and decisions can be shifted influence can be used to make something happen But it seems like that with with most things that people you know have some type of You know high-archy desire for they they 100% they gonna put something in you know like even with like awards in This is a who can promote the best and who can if you can take all the people that vote to dinner and you know Smuse them at dinner. It's gonna be a thing What who's gonna beat you when you add all the voters right or you have a situation where you have people that work for your company that can vote You know how you not gonna vote for the project that the company put out We've got 60 votes this episode is brought to you by square space if you're thinking about building a website You should try square space. I know because I use it. That's right Joe Rogan calm is powered by square space It has all the features that you need to create a stand-out website like an AI enhanced website builder SEO optimization tools and seamless checkouts with mobile pay links

Head to squarespace calm slash Rogan for a free trial And when you are ready to launch use the offer code Rogan to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain This episode is brought to you by uber eats hockey seasons here and uber eats is delivering game-day deals on favorites like wings pizza fries and snacks And you can order more than food like gear to rep your team or fresh batteries for the remote when your watch party gets hungry Or you just need anything order in and keep everyone's attention on the ice score great deals on uber eats all season long Because hockey is for the hungry terms apply product availability varies by region see app for details I think you said the best when you said hierarchy. That's really what it is It's in anything that has any kind of a hierarchy politics is the ultimate example politics is ultimate Ultimate example, but there's there's that hierarchy shit in everything in the world everything and trips people up But with politics it is a little more detrimental than with sports You know sports is you know you gambling people trying to win things, but with politics, it's like

If you're not Somebody that's not qualified can be in a position where you know They make a decision on on the masses of people's lives not just that they can appoint judges Which is they can appoint crazy judges like this obviously judges like they have disputes But why do they have disputes because they're ideologically captured on both sides? There's people that are like you know like certain right-wing judges you throw some case out there That's a right-wing case Abortion rights whatever it is immigration you know how they're gonna vote same thing with left-wing people like hardcore left-wing people you guarantee trans women in sports Trans women are women Land-of-land sports that that was a recent Supreme Court order three judges said that trans women should be able to play in women's sports The rest of them sent fuck no the six canceled it out luckily and you know those people are not taking to account the sport Like it's a difference if you were was originally something and now you're playing it something else your strength is different And you know you don't feel that until your daughter get knocked out the ring which is supposed to be Somebody that they're the same gender then now she's always out of Facebook from you know, it's insane

It's insane. It's and it's not cruel to not let that happen in sports That's what title 9 is about the first place give women the opportunity to play in an equal time as men That's that's a good thing having men that think they're women play with women is fucking crazy That's what we didn't mean, you know, you need to cast those people out of society doesn't mean anything live and let live I agree, but get the fuck out of the women's room You have a dick if you get the fuck off the team You're you're running track at a literal a women's Olympic level and you're 15 Why because you have a dick this is crazy. You're not really a girl. This is nuts. That's the that's the world we live in and That's not I don't think that's the world. We live in as the world is being presented at this point that that's right

You know, and it's you know, it's a lot of things like this and you This is why in comedy I choose not to go the current of the current affair or the political route Because I don't have time to separate the room I'm too busy trying to do things to bring the room together and that's more of a right is aimed for me Well, you I said this before I'll say it live publicly What you've done is very extraordinary because you've made it a giant following online completely organically It's very inspiring because all you do is just do your thing the best that you can and put it out there and it just keeps growing It's amazing. It's very it's very cool It's very inspirational and it's you should be proud of it because what you've done like I said, it's totally organic Like you don't have a bunch of production companies pushing you and trying to make you more popular than you are No, it's all just putting it out there and getting this gigantic following just from your work Just the work appreciate and then, you know, even with that you still have some type of responsibility to not see things the same as other people like what I just got all this flack about

Me talking about the how this business of people inflating things has caused depression in comics You know that we supposed to be a happy craft But now it's this big push about if you're not on social media not on this You know, there's a lot of these comics on you know going through this mental health thing where they always sad about their numbers You know, this then the third like yo man It's a thing and some people inflate things and everybody wants to be on the same level. So Sometimes you you can't be or you can but people look at it as a certain way where when you proud of the steps that you've taken and If I played in the G League, that's not the NBA So I wouldn't say that I was playing I played in the league because I know what the league means I know, you know, I know this is the G League, but when I present myself, you know, I'm playing the league people automatically think they're NBA You know, it's not it's not the G League is not knocking a G League But that's not the first thing that comes to my mind, you know, you know, it's just a plan for the Washington Generals is not the NBA

Even though you played against the Globetrotter, they were great players We know how this game goes, but people that's how people see things now Well, the number things is real the numbers thing is a real problem with people because it gives you a quantifiable measure of whether or not You're doing well And if you already have anxiety which a lot of comedians have you're already like socially awkward Which a lot of comedians are you don't feel accepted which a lot of comedians feel and then you look at those numbers You know, like 2,400. I don't have 2,400 dollars. I've been doing comedy for seven years Why do I have 2,400? And then you go to someone's page that you've never even heard of that 1.2 million like what the fuck and so this is about Being grateful in the position that you you're in I remember when they were people pushing me how you need to get on it And that you need to be on social media to be okay, but I would see those people that had all those follows And that same year the year before that I did a half hour special comedy central then the 2018 I did a full-hour special conversation I had 500 followers on Instagram

I had 300 followers 300 subscribers on YouTube on a page that I didn't own I had to fight to get this page I had less people on Facebook But I was efficient in what I was doing so the numbers didn't they didn't pick me because I had these numbers They they picked me because I came and I did what I did and then they always is great So then we we started going you know a route to build it up, but we were already getting things prior to the numbers Right, what years is again? This is 17 and 18 Okay, so the difference is that in 17 and 18 people were just starting to be aware of the power of social media And then they were really concentrating on different comics that had a large social media following You know I think that was like right when it first started happening dang cook it blew up before that That was it. Yeah, that was a my space. That was a my space. Yeah, another that's true That's true. That's different

But the difference is like he had gotten so huge just from that he was already doing like arenas Yeah, and when they so he was already huge and then they just went with him like but he was like super popular now It's like super popular on social media is one of the most important things So now now moving up to this because I have a strong with this so I have Million followers here million father there all these specials. I still didn't get invited to the BT was I still didn't get I still don't get invited to a bunch of things. I still get to look over four things even though I have numbers and success But I don't worry about it. I'm just in mind. I'm not watching to judge myself against what somebody else is doing It's guys who have less everything, but they're in this in this round with a day and everything I see guys is that everything with no No specials and no proven thing. They just around and I'm like, okay

But it's I'm not I think the point that I'm not judging myself up against what somebody is doing socially But that's also easier when you're successful and you're successful You're very successful So the difference is like when you sell out these shows and you put out these specials like I've seen your specials have millions of Views so it's like obviously you have a following if you didn't and you were doing the same thing Then it'll be a problem, but then also doubt it's like comedy in a lot of ways Not always but a lot of ways is a meritocracy if you're good people will come is that simple fight night? Is here title shots debut killers and the rising contender Nobody's talking about yet and only draft Kings has you covered every step of the way the draft Kings app is now available in all 50 States and includes all markets bringing the game straight to your fingertips wherever you are no matter where you're watching You're always connected and in the game with one app new draft Kings customers sign up with code Rogan spend five bucks to get 200 in rewards Within 21 days that's code Rogan in partnership with draft Kings the crown is yours bet with DK sports book gambling problem called

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Doesn't matter what happened the night before I was just an arena, but in Utah it's like it takes me back to um on trading places It's that I mean this is you gave all this elaborate what this watch is and that man said this is what this guy was insane Look, I don't care about you ponding the watch right and so I don't have That and I'm not if I'm it's like you you own the club. Okay, it's guys that can come to your club and sell your club out And then it's guys that come to club and you paper the room. Okay, then it's guys like me in the theater Some you can scale the other down some theaters hold 4600 people but you can scale it down to 2000 But then the I'm not going to say if the room holds 4600 I put 2000 tickets on sale. I didn't sell out The theta I sold what I put on sale It was saying because I'm not to the point where I can get the 4600 yet if I could sell the room out Then I I would need to relish the real accomplishment versus the the lesser accomplishment inflating

Yeah, and that's and because I don't have this thing where I'm in competition with what happened before me You know, so with other people so I'm in sanitonia We at um, we at the theta and because people can make you feel bad about anything if you if you a person that feels bad this thing um Minnesota It's all these people that's on the team that that play for the boss and self-sex that are millionaires They already million that they play in the league boss and traded Seven people to minnesota for one person Kevin going in They got rid of seven human beings for one person So it's like if I was a person that felt bad about my career this would make me feel bad like they like the first person that They are okay, I'm a trade this person for everybody like no well, I'm gonna give you two more people They're like no and then I'm gonna give you four more people. Okay, and a lottery pick Okay, I I'm gonna feel horrible. They traded me for seven people. Y'all didn't want me

Realistically so boston went they got Kevin going there. I mean um, oh, what's it? Yeah Kevin going there and seven other millionaires They got all this money that's got all this they went to Minnesota, you know saying so if somebody wanted to make you feel bad about something, you know, they could it That's how you are. So I'm in sanitonia. The line is around the block The place is sold out. It's the same

Sellout no matter who comes in. They say it to my face. Come on. You should have saw it with Matt rifecane Am I like and I say was it a different thing? I'm saying I'm saying theater So when Matt rifecane, he sold out I sold out two nights I mean two days the same night, but her thing was you should have saw it with Matt rifecane. I was like, okay

She probably wanted you to feel bad It's like what I'm not good for you. Good for you. But the thing is a lot of people would That's what it is. A lot of people are in competition with other people I think you should be inspired by other people, you know If you want to compete in that way be inspired but the moment you turn it into a negative It's like you're you're you're full you're being a fool. Compute security. Also inspiration is power. It's fuel

You see someone doing well. So you see someone set and you like it. That's fuel that makes you want to go work It makes you want to get some shit done. It makes you give you energy It makes or it could cripple you if you're a dummy if you're a dummy and you get angry and you get bitter And then you just put all this negativity on the person who's doing better than you which a lot of people do That's that's a weird that's a weird dynamics in this business when you know that it's going to be people No matter what you're doing it's going to be somebody doing better than you when I was In comedy clubs. I remember being there and they were paper in the room. Okay. I wasn't saying I was selling out

They was paper or I know it out of all these 300 people there 240 these people came because it was it was email blast But then what I looked at was they wanted to come yeah It was one come to probably comedy fans Which is why they're on the email list in the first place and then those people you give them a great show They'll come back then the next time I came they didn't paper the wrong. They sold it. They sold the tickets That's that's how it used to be man. That was the old days before social media You would build a market so you would just show up at Philadelphia once a year show up Do your homework like make sure you got a tight set even practicing you're ready to rock Fuck these people up and then leave and then they're like can't wait till you guys are back again And then next time you come back you know, all right, I built an audience now I got to point these people I got to get fired up and that's what it used to be It used to be a totally organic thing across the whole country Is it a is it a thing is it a difference in your opinion between me bringing my audience?

to a venue from whatever other thing that I do versus people coming that don't know anything about me and me winning That person over versus the different. Yeah, it's a different thing You know people are coming to see you specifically you've already won them over That's a different thing or they want to take a chance on you That's a different thing because I've heard about you but when you know That's a completely different thing because that's your you have an audience now You have fans when you are just performing in a club and it's a paper room You have an opportunity you have an opportunity to turn these people into fans You have an opportunity to give these people a great night and have a good time and also you're doing your fucking thing Which is the most important thing of all everybody is results oriented I try to be process oriented when I with everything I do I'm process oriented I think about there's there's a goal that you got to reach but how do you get to that goal?

The way the way you get there is not thinking about the goal the way you get there is thinking about what you're doing What's the process the process is writing bits performing them tweaking them getting them tight knowing reviewing tapes going over your material going over your writing Talking with friends and then every day it gets a little bigger every day. It gets a little better every day that night gets a little sharper That's the process that that's the process that leads you to become whoever whoever you are and then you add Other little pieces in that process. I'm like, um, I was talking to Bobby Lee and me and Bobby Lee talking I said, Bobby, you don't realize what you meant be at and he's like, well, it's just gonna be a good story as a bad story You you met me at, um At the impucius and improv and they called me and asked me that I want to host a room that I already sell out I'm saying they asked me that I want to host I said cool so I came and I hosted and I was Not trying to but I was destroying his feature. I'm just hosting We should not be hosting and especially at the Houston improv, but my thing was this was yes

This was years ago, but I say, Bobby, you don't understand when when I was hosting at the Houston improv I was doing something that most people didn't understand why I was even doing it. Well, like what and they would see like why would you be hosting? I said because I'm not gonna be in front of Bobby Lee's audience There's people that live in Houston, right that his audience that I have no I had no idea who I am I said, Bobby, but before you I said I was coming to the Houston improv hosting for multiple people And I was just winning over fans that would never had seen me if they wasn't coming to see you They wouldn't become a macho. I said so before that it was you were last, Bobby It was you and the week prior to that it was monster brining and the week prior to that was um was my girl Um answer Johnson answer Johnson and before that it was um some random white guy. I said I just came and I want to do a comic so me hosting was no big deal. I wasn't working so I said well

Let me just come post it. That's what they want me to do. So I gained fans from four different audiences in a month So when I came back, they was like yo, I saw you with monsie brining And so I came back I came back to see you when you when you put your show up. I'm like cool So my process that was a part of my process. I didn't matter who I hosted for and then I'm like, okay cool You know, let me let me go like when I hosted for um bill birt bill birt was like this is crazy We had we had Austin at the paramount is in like and I said I said the worst thing about this was at the time I was wearing all black and I went to the show and I when I walked on stage the first thing I said is hey I do not work here Don't like it as me wears the bathroom. I don't know I don't work but it was like I look like a usher

Like yo, I'm like yo, this sucks, but it was a cool. Yeah, that's a smart approach I mean, that's a great way to build especially if you're already headlining Yeah, I think I think that thing about concentrating on the process people should try to apply that to everything You know, um My friend john Dudley who taught me archery. He's a big believer in that being process oriented Like I said, you get better at archery and he used to compete all over the world travel compete in archery tournaments I think that's I think that applies to everything. I think it applies to music I think that applies to everything the mo I think it was one of the things that trips people up about social media a lot of These young guys in particular young people in particular is that they are thinking about other people and they are comparing themselves other people And they are looking at those numbers and you're looking you're spending all of your energy if you're having allotted 100 units of energy in a day You're spending a disproportionate amount On things that don't empower you and actually kind of fuck your head up not good for you at all instead of saying wow I am chasing the fucking dream. Right. I am out here being a professional comedian and I have a real chance to develop a real following

If I put my time in I put my half I really care and I really work hard. I could sell out of theater one day That's possible. Like that's a goal. That should be a goal just like getting your phd in chemistry or whatever the fuck it is your goal is But the process is what's important the process is like appreciating what you're doing while you're doing it and just bearing down and doing your rest That's it. That's it in other people. You look at them as inspiration other people that are kicking ass

You know don't go don't get become a hater that shit is so bad for you I know so many dudes who have like hater tendencies and they never excel never It's the counter thinking of an excellent person is a hater Someone's always trying to diminish people and downplay people and look at someone the least charitable way and the worst possible way Does somehow or they're trying to make themselves feel better, but it doesn't work. It does the opposite of work It robs you it robs you of yourself esteem it robs you of your self-respect you're spending so much time thinking about this other dude like why? It's a lot of energy. My dad is once this is one story that I did not put in the special that I should have And my dad had all these these thoughts and he was I lived to say he was a crazy man But when you think about the things that he would say made sense my dad and why would you be telling me this at the age that but he just gave I think I was like 11 and my dad I know what to say. You know some People been spending the same time and money on being fake when they can put that same time and money into being real Yeah, and I'm like, I didn't know I understand what that meant. But as I got older

If you spend any money or time faking something you could probably spend that money and time being real Yeah about something. Yeah, you know why go by a fake necklace? Like you rich when you can go by a real necklace if Zane at some point if Zane and you know be actually be rich You know if that's what you give compared to necklaces But I just didn't understand it at the time But then as I got older I understood like why put this why put this time in to pretending when you can Put that same energy and then become real at what you do. It makes no sense my uncle viny when I was Six or seven years old I was staying at his house with my cousins and we were we were supposed to brush our teeth And I didn't like following rules period And so I wouldn't brush my teeth instead I would take toothpaste and smoosh around on my teeth and so that when they smell my breath It was small toothpaste and my uncle explained to me he goes he goes I understand why you're doing it. He goes but the amount of time that you're spending pretending to brush your teeth

You could have just brushed your teeth and I thought about that when I was six I was like damn I was a little kid but I was like oh he's right Why am I faking brushing my My uncle video like super patient super calm at all my family members He was the strangest out of all these wild crazy Italian people like he was he was an artist and he was like very soft spoken And never got angry about anything. I'd always speak really rationally. I was like god. He's so smart He's just so peaceful. He just but he laid it out when I didn't say hey I know you're not brushing your teeth you little fuck It was the time you're spending pretending to brush your teeth you could just brush your teeth It was like sometimes adults will say something to you like that when you're six And it just gets in your head and you're like whoa okay That just saved me a whole lot of time Just brush your fucking teeth Stop pretending stop faking. It doesn't help anything. It's does the opposite

Does the opposite and you know people the truth sometimes is is hurtful to people The truth doesn't feel good you know to a lot of people unfortunately But you know you have to look at it You have to have perspective But that's the ultimate hate right there That's the ultimate hate is for me to give you a false hood instead of tell you the truth Right that's the ultimate is the ultimate hate I especially if you're making up a background for yourself You're making up a story about your life. That's not true. You're pretending you're somewhere in life that you're not You know, oh man just do the thing Just do the thing Give it's hard for people It's hard for people and then there's a lot of people that think you just fake it until you make it And then you hear stories of this guy I had $500 in my bank counter but I told him I got this I got that loan and next thing you know my business is making all this money And he go wow he faked it until he make it and it worked So few and far between them they never tell you that that guy goes to jail later for far The fans busting my house three years later and took everything like okay exactly like when they arrested Carl's been

See you recently for like all those counts of tax fraud. I was like, okay I don't want it to happen to him, but there it is Right, I mean, that's what I'm not laughing at call of the thing. I'm like Yeah, when he busts it got I mean, I didn't I wasn't didn't bring me any joy to see that I don't like anybody getting arrested for taxes. I think I think taxes until they have an accurate account of where the fucking money goes And until you completely eliminate all fraud and waste What the fuck are you doing locking people up for not paying taxes?

Like you guys should get locked up for not doing a good job with our money So what you think about all the new purchases and redoing the White House and all this with tax dollars Do they do with tax dollars? How much money do they spend in tax dollars to do the ballroom? What's that what's that um, they need a ballroom though? That's how that guy's not gonna go in because they tried to do that White House correspondence dinner in a hotel Dude who got arrested a few months back. What's this this this resolution the pool something full of algae right now?

That we spent on it. Yeah, I don't know about that. That's something about making the pool look nice Whatever that is reflecting pool reports indicate the new White House East Wing ballroom is projected to cost about 600 million with roughly half Just over 300 million coming from taxpayer funded government accounts despite earlier promises that it would be taxpayer-free 300 million sounds like a lot until you find out how much money they spend on other things when you find out how much just how much fraud It is in NGOs. How much fraud is in nonprofits? How much fraud is in?

Insider trading and propping up companies so that they can get better deals. Well, the whole thing is fraud the thing is If you spend in understand how much money goes another thing But you if you spend any money that that that's my money that I don't know that I need it That's not really the aim to go you should be able to vote on it You should be able to vote on where all your tax money goes how much money is how much tax money is being spilled on getting smart people in place It's getting smart making smart children. That's the big one That's the thing the big one is if you look at our country as a community and that's what we're supposed to be doing We're supposed to be the United States of America all that bullshit aside That was the one good thing that happened about 9-11 when 9-11 happened after that we were all united It was crazy. It was crazy. We realized like we are actually on a team So for our team, why do we have these deeply impoverished neighborhoods for decades and decades that are riddled with crime and drug abuse?

Why is it impossible to fix? That's crazy. That's not true It's just no one's tried to fix it. No one's done any effort to fix it and if you did fix it you want to make America great Here's the best way less losers and how do you get less losers more opportunities for people more opportunities more support more education More everything that you need if it was your neighborhood And if we did that we'd have to switch the way our system runs, but that could be done man That's a lot of losers not that many that's the thing about make America great, right? If you try to make anything great, don't you need intelligent people do that?

Of course, so number one thing so when we have all these divisive people that that's on a lower vibration How is that making the the country the country great if we're putting? People in position that don't have the experience or the education in those things and then we just saying a bunch of divisive things You know, you know, it was it was if I'm watching The the extravagant that it happened in the White House. What was the thing Michelle Obama is a man Like how did that help how did that help that guy says that every time he but what is the what is the thing first of all?

It's it's really divisive because you know that a large portion of the country's gonna take this as gonna have a problem with this You know clearly she's not a man. It's saying but it makes no sense like to I've never seen this many people say so many damaging things About a past president. It's like he's still on the forefront and it's not like we have a president that's doing the greatest job for this This country, you know, which is which is weird or weird thing to me and people gonna ask is that what's the belief That's the that's the real belief of people. That's the real thing. Well, listen. There's some crazy people that believe the world's flat

There's a lot of dumb beliefs. There's probably people that do believe Michelle Obama's man. What that guy does He's like a pro wrestler like he's got a character called the incredible hoke. It's very corny in a lot of ways sometimes It's you know cringey, but the point is he gets a lot of attention a lot of attention because of all this That's what he's doing So what he's trying to do is maximize the amount of attention that he can get for a very short window of career It's not how he really feels. I really think when you talk to him in real life It's very reasonable. This is an act that he does like a pro wrestling act

But what he can do is fight. He's really good and that's what's so confusing about it all So he got this guy who's created like this fake persona where he puts on an American flag bandana comes out the hulk Hogan music That's always interviews with sunglasses on has a bunch of crazy silly rhymes and says ridiculous shit Just trying to get attention the most amount of attention. It is very divisive. Don't get me wrong But that's by design so he's hulk Hogan and Randy Savage in the same in the same Fight really fucking good one man. He just knocked out Derek Lewis at the White House. Derek Lewis has the most knockouts in history

Don't don't do that don't do that. Don't do what? This this don't don't don't say that so excited because Derek Lewis go to the same gym or mainstream boxing gym He said I'm very close to that. I don't like the fact that Derek Lewis lost their fight I think it's Derek Derek of 10 years ago with a real fucking problem for that dude because Derek of 10 years ago You couldn't hold him down. He would just get up He there's a whole compilation of people trying to hold Derek Lewis down We just gets a hand on you and just whoop his grip They did that UFC grip thing where they test the grip everybody's like 140 the strong ones like 160 one night Derek just squeezed it casual 218 so they were like what the fuck so you see how problematic this was for me you already beat my friend Then you turn around and say be a 40 year old Derek a 40 year old there a little dinner around say Michelle Obama's man I was like, okay, you know what I know what you're saying. I'm pissed

Right, but I'm telling you if you met that dude in real life, you would get it. He's just a dude He's just a guy who is a competitive wrestler played in the NFL And he's like I got to do something to figure out how to get people to pay attention to me because it can't just be fighting It's not enough if you look at Conor McGregor you look at sugar Sean O'Malley You look at these guys that have these flamboyant personalities these big personalities they get cashless clays the original example They get a immense amount of attention and that translates into much more money and much more opportunities There's no fucking way that guy would have gotten that fight at the White House if you couldn't fight because the fight that he had before that he fought Curtis Blades Who was a top 10 UFC heavyweight huge wrestler and they went to war dude I mean he put it on him for three fucking rounds like Curtis just has an insane heart and survived it But that guy can fucking fight but just that alone's not enough. You got to get attention. I don't agree with it I wouldn't do it. It's not my thing. I don't like it right but I get it and it's smart

Well Muhammad Ali though, he was very respectful in his in his in his act you know to get attention You know, just like he wasn't I mean he wasn't with other people But he would show up at fucking Sonny Liston's house and scream about him on his fucking front lawn at four in the morning He did wild crazy shit. He did he did a lot of what he was just all about getting your heart rate up Getting your emotions in there. He was so fucking smart He knew before everybody that you could just get somebody into a frenzy and he wouldn't be able to sleep Their whole life revolved around fighting you and I can't let this guy beat me in a fear of losing He's gonna keep you weak. It's gonna keep you you're not gonna be able to eat as much food You're gonna feel nervous, but you see what happens on my call to me. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah

What was that? He kept punishing him. I'm gonna name him. I'm gonna name him. I'm gonna name him. I'm gonna name him

But that didn't work out for him. He beat the police. He just out of him. He carried him. He carried him while he was beating his ass Dude, he was a special special guy It's you know, I'm not comparing him in terms of his cultural significance to Josh Oakhead Because you know, he was uh, my parents my mother and my stepfather were hippies They never watched fighting but when he had a rematch with Leon Spinks that's how much of a cultural figure he was They wanted him to beat Leon Spinks. Oh my god. He's gonna win. He's gotta win hippies sitting in front of the fucking TV in like 1970

Whatever it was. Oh crazy. They have a tag in hippies Well, they were hippies, but you know, my grandmother went to jail for running numbers for the mob So it's like there was a lot of uh, okay, there's a lot of Grandma went away for a little bit She went and ran him out. So she did some time. I was at a I was at a show one time and I said um while the Africans and in in here and This Italian dude is from Sicily. He raised his hand

And I said and the people like why he raised him like he knows He's like, yeah, it's really good reason why Sicilians have darker hair curly hair darker skin He's like, yeah, you know, I said and that's all I said was you know, and people who got it It was like, right, right, right, right? And at that point it's like when people don't know that that you have some sort of level of intelligence Information Okay That's funny though. Oh, Italian hippies, but it might be awesome. Yeah, well, yeah, there was a lot of hippies back then man I think uh the original idea behind it was great I was just watching this thing today about the CIA and LSD and what they did. It was really funny, man. It was um

Yeah, they're gonna do it. Yeah, they're dope. See if you can find it put it up because it's kind of cool I'm conveniently an MKI ultra hearing going on right now. Oh, how convenient? Colson bro that I got right here. Jamie. I'll send it to you

Um, they 100 percent are still doing that No, if answer buts if you think they did that in the 60s and then 100 percent did If they're doing my control experiments on people and their influence and people's opinions and half of the reason why people are at odds with each other All day long on online is probably government intervention at one point or some government intervention. This is not ours. Russian China This is wild at the heavy movement and your mom's favorite band probably helped them in the 1950s the CIA bought up the world supply of LSD They brought it to the pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly who reverse engineered it giving them an unlimited supply and a complete monopoly Then the testing started one early volunteer for these tests was Ken Kisi Kisi wrote a book inspired by this experience which became a best-seller then Kisi went on to host events which he called acid tests And he wasn't charging anyone he just wanted people to show up and do acid for these events He hired an unknown house band called the Grateful Dead These events became wildly popular and with them rose the popularity of the band so the Grateful Dead begins touring and Kisi follows them around in a bus from show to show And everywhere he went he brought a vat full of Kulele laced with LSD

This guy had a seemingly endless supply exporting the hippie culture all around the US Meanwhile the CIA is flooding college campuses with LSD under the guise of research And the Grateful Dead was just one of many bands in this movement at the same time and Laurel Canyon came a wave of musicians with something in common They were all children of high-ranking military officials the biggest names in music Jim Morrison of the doors was the son of an admiral Frank Zappa's father was a chemical warfare specialist even Crosby stills a Nash Yeah, all three of them and all of these bands as well The theory is the CIA orchestrated the hippie movement to steer a very real anti-war movement into something a little easier to combat Descent without teeth the hippie slogan was literally turn on Tune in Drop out in other words do acid and remove yourself from society And a lot of them did drop out of society to go live in communes in the woods This intersection between hippie culture and the CIA could all be a great big coincidence Maybe military brats naturally want to rebel and maybe the CIA was giving away acid because they're chill like that Maybe the CIA created the hippie movement and your mom's favorite band probably helped them Yeah In that wild that's crazy. That's wild. They also had a big influence on gangster rap big influence on promoting gangster rap for sure

100% proven 100% Yeah, you rather feel prisons you want you want to push that over anything else, you know, because we can look at how rap music changed And it changed in 1992. Yeah at the 1992 it was like no more positive rap Well, it was whenever straight out of Compton came out because I was in Boston at the time I remember to the day it happened but straight out of Compton wasn't a Drug field induced out it was if you look at some of the salt you look at a lot of songs that was on an album It was rebellious songs against the system, you know Fuck the police and then 1992 man when they decided, yo, we don't want no more they lost So we don't know the more trial-call quests. We don't want to know you get them leather medallions Self-destruction and west coast west coast all-stars. They was like what they coming together No, you know, we need this to be divisive We need them to separate and that's crazy that that the biggest time that I've experienced this country being together was the olympics

When the dream team came 9-11 and covid That's the biggest time that we the three biggest times I've ever seen us together Yeah, because we need something we need something that's real that we need some sort of an event that makes us realize first of all the Fragility of life that's important and we have to realize that we're all supposed to be a part of a team And we you can't play on a team if your teammates don't think that you that you valuable not only that You can't play on a team if your teammates are poisoning you if your teammates are allowing you to eat rotten foods So that you can't play and maybe giving you inferior gear on purpose and maybe keeping you in a place where you can't get sleep So that you're not gonna evolve that you're always gonna be tired you're gonna be fatigued So you're never gonna get better at whatever the fuck it is you're doing you're never gonna advance in life You're gonna be tired you're gonna be on drugs. You're gonna be poor this episode is brought to you by armor every week There's some new wellness hack that people swear by and after a while you start thinking Why do we think we can just outsmart our bodies? That's why armor colostrum caught my attention

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You know, it's different, you know, so I see things from both sides All the time because I'm in which makes me grateful. I'm grateful that I can do the things I can do with my family You know, I'm saying versus parenting from a place of frustration, you know, but I understand This this this frustration thing, you know, I'm trying to take care of you And you know, and then sometimes I look at my kids like, you know, something you have it really easy because if I wouldn't watch them dishes My mind would have destroyed me Because her mind said is hey, I'm trying to take you out to help in this, you know, it means like we have a housekeeper Because that That's people coming in four days after week, you know, and now I'm like so you just gonna throw that stuff on the floor And you make it an awful housekeeper, you know, the reason why she's here four days a week is so to make your life easier But you you're adding on to by being lazy by being lazy like I don't this a balancing act, right?

You want to protect your children, but you don't want them to develop Soft you want them to be able to take care of their own problems and you want them to be able to understand the consequences of their actions So this is like fine line of like Encouragement and punishment and like explaining to them how your life was different and you have to appreciate this life This is very unusual. You're super fortunate But I think ultimately what they learn from is how you behave that's a giant part of being a parent that people I don't think are totally aware of until you start doing it that they understand you whatever the fuck you say is one thing That's great. What you do is what they really say and if you're a lazy fucker It was always making excuses your kids are gonna not have respect for you They're gonna know like real early on you're kind of full shit. This is the craziest thing though You know how hard it is to put some out on punishment and then say hey Pack we going to Cabo Am I on punishment we going to Cabo? I've had for 16 hours When we get the Cabo you stay in your room overlook the ocean Think about your consequences and you order a room service

Dragon Coca-Cola eating french fries lamb chops coming to the room. You're like yo, you don't want to be dude So I can't have oysters like you hear the birds chirping You look looking at the waves It's rough and it's being it's a certain part of success That you almost can't Punish because it's like I'm not staying at home Because you don't punch me It's just different, you know My mom's going her own and turn on non-slamming the dynasty and I'm in my room with no tv because it's only one tv It's a tv in every room if they ask me oh the punishment was coming here watch Falcon Chris with me What I don't wanna watch on Falcon Chris and then you start watching Falcon Chris and now you love it You like so That's why I like mash And then I would be in trouble and you watching mash and bonanza then all of a sudden you love mash

I cried with mash when I was like that I remember the dude who dressed up like a girl mash Jamie Farh. Yeah, he was my neighbor. I was a neighbor. Yeah back in california He lived right next door two houses down Wow Tlinger it used to be just me and him and then another guy built a house in between us Uh who's cool very friendly guy Play the play the character play the good character. That was a good show Yeah mash was a very good show You know and I said this other day to a friend of mine I said like I listen I used to ride and take my kids to school and listen to morning shows You know really time-jona, you know, um listen time-jona And this is something I can listen to with my kids Now there's there's no morning shows that I can listen to with my children without them putting in a different element that I'm I don't want my kids to be a part of and know that's a Weird thing that they cursing on radio and doing all the stuff. They can't curse on radio stuff. Oh

Yes, they can't they change it. They'll drop a B word in a minute. Oh a B word. Yeah, but that's it You can't you can't use these hands. They flock. No, but the rest of it, you know, my you know, you got daughters

You're in the right right right and you're hearing some shit. You don't like me here Like that's a weird thing. You like so they go to school and you know at the end they say Right watching the B like man. That was the ending of the show So now you just we ride and listen to he's cold he was with no talk. Oh, I listen to NPR I listen to um urban urban network, you know, listen now they got all these political questions and and you know when you're five your like So why are we voting?

You've been listening to carinana. There's an old old time on the way to school from school. So it's um It's weird how you what shows would you sit down and watch with your kids now? You know, they had to watch the shows that I grew up watching. You know, we got to go back You got to watch perimecing and family matters and you know the godly show, you know, different world We had to go back and watch good times, you know, can't watch the current things You know, so you know, even with comedy I took I took a song to a comedy show with me to see some friends and it was 14 at the time And we left because it was no it was nothing The things that were being said it kind of made me go back to when um Cosby did the the story about his son going to see Eddie Murphy and he said he said these things and I was sitting there like the after the first two minutes. I'm like, yo, we gotta get out of here

What was he time 14 14? That's too young and I'm like yo, man But I mean the guy was doing comedy's doing comedy for adults that are drinking in the nightclub, right? No, we got we got a event where was all these bodybuilders the gym um next level had did a um a show for all the the The people that work out there and the trainers and I'm thinking okay. This is at a ballroom, you know, it's probably gonna be pretty cool And I stopped in, you know, we said the back and then it went left and I was like, hey, man Let's get out of here and he seen me and so he's like Now this ain't this ain't the same like yeah, I'm not I'm not going for a certain type of life I'm not doing shock value, you know, so he's watched almost all the specials, you know, so It's not this it's not the the same for him, you know, and he knows a lot of comics So it's it's not this wasn't conducive. I was like how's on we out?

We out here. He's like but it's some comments you can go and you can watch they whole show like a Marcus D while he can get an understanding of least marriage, you know How marriage gonna give you some some fuel but I think the the landscape of Comedy is different for different people not knocking the people who do shock value or or a lot of sexual content that's there That's their stick, you know, and they probably young and at some point they'll grow Hopefully they'll grow and it'll be more things in life to talk about people like well, how do you have as many specials? Um Because I have a life, you know, I had a life before that I talked about and then I have a life a current life that you know I'm still experiencing things So I'm going to talk about things that that's that's a little different because I'm living and I'm not stuck in Sex is not the number one thing I remember when I when I figured that I was sex wasn't that big when I went to you know They had to think Netflix and chill and I actually wanted to watch the movie So

It's a it's a thing about the development in this game of how you grow and what you think about Well, I think comedy is just the one of the problems with the label is that there's no genres It's not like blues comedy rock and roll comedy hip-hop comedy EDM comedy. It's just comedy. You don't know what it is It's just different people's perspective on things and there's different kinds of comedy that people like, you know, some people are giant rich or prior fans Some people are Sam kennison fans some people Jerry Seinfeld fans and some people love Bonnie rate and some people love, you know, whatever James Brown feeling the blank there's a lot of different styles of music and there's a lot of different styles of comedy And all that I care is that you enjoy what you're doing and you're doing it because you enjoy it and if you're doing that I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck what you're doing. I don't care if you have props I don't care if you write signs and hold them up for the crowd. I don't give a shit what you're doing

I don't care if you do impressions. I don't give a fuck what you're doing that that that was a huge So when talking about the scope of comedy, you know, I'm I can start with carobanette and I watch that but The guy who I watched on these wheel a lot. I knew I wasn't gonna do that type of stand-up It was that was just a whole different thing, but Gallagher Crazy to me crazy. That was crazy. That was crazy. We're plastic. Yeah, garbage bags around the next point what six rolls

Yeah, just getting splattered with watermelons and pineapples and coconuts and whatever the fuck you's cabbage But you also had some good jokes. Yeah, some solid jokes in between then do did a ton of specials Yeah, you know the crazy story the Gallagher story is Gallagher retired and his brother took over his brother was Gallagher too So he had a brother that kind of looked like I remember that right? I remember that too and then somewhere down the line Gallagher decided he wants to start doing comedy again And he's like hey Gallagher to the gig is up And he's like no no no no no I'm making money. I'm Gallagher too I think there was some sort of a legal dispute to find out that's correct. There was a legal dispute between them Gallagher's younger brother Ron shared a strong likeness to Leo asking for permission to perform shows using goggers trademark sledge O'Matic routine Leo granted his permission on the condition on the condition that Ron and his manager clarified in promotional materials This was Ron Gallagher not Leo Gallagher who was performing Ron typically performed in venues smaller than those of which Leo Gallagher performed after several years Ron began promoting his act as Gallagher to or Gallagher

To or TOO or TWO in some instances Ron's act was promoted in a way that left unclear the fact that he was not the original Gallagher Leo initially responded by requesting only that his brother not use the sledge o'Matic routine You can't use the fucking you can't use the sledgehammer Nonetheless continued to tour as Gallagher to using the routine in August 2000 Leo sued his brother for trademark violations and false advertising The court ultimately sided with Leo and granted an injunction prohibiting Ron from performing any act and impersonated his brother in small clubs and venues This injunction also prohibited Ron from intentionally bearing likeness to Leo what imagine you can't look like your brother You gotta change your mustache you gotta get rid of the beard that's crazy So did um did Gallagher continue with his career after he kicked his brother out did he come back?

Probably was that part of it? Nobody means it say it there didn't say it here. It doesn't say it specifically in this paragraph Does it get when did Gallagher start performing again put that in a search see what it says because I think he did start performing again Yeah, he says it's he was rushed to the hospital after performance in 2011. Oh, okay, and what year did he sue his brother? So he did start doing comedy again, so that's it yeah, so he's like hey motherfucker Yeah, you can't be doing that with Gallagher to run around siphon and off of your crowd, you know people like honey You want to spend 50 bucks and see Leo?

What you want to spend 20 bucks see basically the same shit see Ron smashing fucking cabbage Carrot top and I just saying yeah, you could perform you can't use the sledgehammer How you the mallet what about a map? Just to have someone pitch me things and I smash me to the crowd. Yeah, you can own that It's a different thing. I'm handing out oranges and tomatoes and yeah, I honestly I don't give a fuck what you do as long as you like what you're Doing it's like I love certain kinds of music. That's completely opposite to other shit that I love I mean I like all kinds of stuff I don't think you should pigeonhole yourself with anything But I would not take my kids especially when they're really young to see someone who's like very sexual or really rowdy or really Like I don't want to know the caveat to this is he was in the green room and they were looking right at him Like they ended it like and I'm like what tell tell me what you're I didn't know they act Oh, he didn't say hey, bro. You got young kids. Yeah, cuz I would say hey man tonight, you know, right?

event, I would definitely do that if especially if you were another comic and you brought your kids out bro Yeah, cuz we're gonna really I Need to know about all these techniques, yeah, so that's weird You know that is weird, but you know what I mean It's like time and place like who was he doing it for I mean they probably knew what he did before they hired him They probably wanted that someone's a fan which is fine, but just don't invite kids and like I said I didn't I did was hey, how's on let's go and that's it I didn't I didn't I'm like man do what you do But I'm getting my kid out of here man. You get the phone call. Hey, why you leave?

You don't really want to know why I'm leaving cuz you are terrorizing my child Yeah, you know, but I definitely wouldn't take my girls. So to like I'm out of me when I think my daughter's was six and when was eight I had to watch the movie alien You ever see that movie alien the original movie? Yeah fucking terrifying. It was too young this too young You know, I think how fun Watch Anna bail when he was young and it was creepy it was he was traumatized He was watching somebody else's house, you know, with some other kids and they were like I guess they understood But her son was it was a whole problem Like you talking about sleeping with all the lights on the house like I want all the lights on and I'm sleeping in your bed Like do you ever go to that place in Vegas?

It's a haunted me Zach Baggins haunted museum. He has the anabelle doll there. Wow. Yeah, there it is Which one is one of the right? Oh That's the real one that's right. It's the one on the left the movie one. Oh really interesting Wow

So that anabelle is both on creepy as hell to me But well there's something extra creepy about the one with eyes like a person the left one that's insane You believe in ghosts? Yes, really? Have you had experience? Um, no, no, no, no, no I have let me go back. Let me see. I do believe in go. So my old house with my mom say that now

It's a girl that lives there, you know, I don't know what happened at this house But it's definitely a girl that lives in house But she would only come from like the hallway bathroom to the kitchen and I remember doing a painting You say girl, you mean a ghost. Yeah, that's a girl. Okay. She's definitely girl and I remember being doing the pandemic I was in the den and I was working on I was working on something and literally I just turned to sit So you up huh and could I could feel her? I was like, yo, but and I had to go back through my family a lot of people my family have experiences with past relatives That passed on my uncle said he saw his dad my grandfather on any shoes And my mom said she saw my grandfather before and that lived in the house that they had in Mississippi But yeah, I believe in girls. I believe in unsettled spirits

But definitely had a girl that they put in house my grandmother the one I was talking about before she was very interesting And she she really strongly believed in ghosts and there was a guy that stayed with them for a while They had a like an upstairs area that they weren't using once the kids left And so they rented out like it was like an attic space that they had converted or I forget exactly what it was Anyway, they rented out a room to this guy wherever the circumstances were and he died and my grandmother swore that that dude stayed in the house Yeah, I believe it. I think it's possible that if something happens to you that That if you're dying, it's a very traumatic experience And I have a feeling that we don't totally understand memory and we assume that memory is something that only human beings have Or that only animals have or that only creatures living creatures have I don't think that's real I have a feeling there may be a type of memory from particularly traumatic experiences that stays in a space And I think this is one of the reasons why they have to disclose with a certain amount of time Someone's been murdered in the house in a lot of places before you buy it because people don't want to live in a house That's got that energy in it because I think I think things keep energy

I think they do they think there's something more to memory than just as simple as oh remember when we were five I think there's something else there. I think I think that's our memory But I think there's a type of memory and things that's what I think I believe in the unseen world So I believe in gins, you know, I believe in angels. It's an so it's on scene world. That's not you know I would think but it was things that was things here before us, you know, so I think there's things here with us Yeah, definitely with us people who don't think that haven't smoked dmt I definitely get a hold of some dm dm d and you're like, okay, I don't know shit There's things around me all the time There's things that are influencing you all the time and this is like when we talk about like good energy and bad energy One of the things you experience in psychedelic states is a clear recognition of like good things you've done and bad things You've done good the good way of thinking the good way you think about things a positive way and bad I remember having negative thoughts in experience once and it was all these like dark fractals And then I realized it was trying to show me that these dark fractals these crazy geometrics like scary patterns

That I was saying was because of my own thoughts And then I released them and it turned into beautiful geometric patterns over and over and it kept saying like look at this And look at this and I was like, oh It's actually the way you think changes the world around you it has an effect it might not have the ultimate effect It might not be a hundred percent of what happens to you and in your life, but it has a meaningful effect We just can't measure it and there's things that are out there whatever they are they have some kind of consciousness that are around us All the time we just don't have the senses to take them in just like when you wave your hand over an earthworm And there's no fucking idea you're doing that We don't have the senses to understand that there's things around us and people have been writing about these things for so long To discount them all they're all liars. They're all delusional. They're all crazy I think that people discount dudes are thinking that they were on drugs It doesn't mean the wrong it doesn't mean it doesn't mean it wrong. You know like a drunk a drunk really don't tell a lot of lies Drunk don't tell a lot of you don't I'm drunk. I'm drunk. I'm saying what it is right it was in but

When you when people like LSD, you know, you loosen it, you know or mushroom So these things people like well, you only saw that because you was on this but maybe that's the portal on how you see certain things I think there's certain things that we block ourselves from being able to see by our own protective instincts We protect our thoughts. This is why people I think paranoid when they smoke weed one of the things that weed does is it dissolves All these artificial barriers that you put between you and in the thoughts of real danger. They're all there You realize your vulnerability you realize who you are. So just think of how years ago how we eat with you I'm marijuana was viewed um I didn't believe that like how did that even correlate but it's for those who are trying to find an ultimate high Maybe you just smoke weed and that's all you ever did, you know, and you wasn't trying to find another high I think some people try to find another high like now Man a lot of these young people are on so many different things at the same time

Like what are you searching for? You know, they popping pills doing coke drinking lean doing everything all at the same time Like what is and drinking like what what are you trying to escape or what are you searching for? You know, and I just know people who just smoke weed and steal smoke joints They don't smoke that I don't know people who grow their own but they're not even trusting what's going on now Now they finally fit in all in all this marijuana, you know And pesticides Horrible pesticides because what people don't know is that a giant percentage of all the drugs or marijuana rather that people are buying in places Where it's illegal they're growing them in national forests in California and the cartels doing it and the cartel uses a bunch of pesticides and Erbicides that are illegal like real toxic shit And they find them doing it all the time they find these grow ops in the forest all the time because it's a misdemeanor So because marijuana is legal in the state of California growing it is just a misdemeanor So you could have a full-scale grow up in you know Public land out in the forest and these guys find them there all the time a friend of mine found one in a ranch

They works out he followed these PVC pipes and he realized that some guy was diverting water into this little area that was on To hone ranch, which is a big ranch outside of Bakersfield But this dude that was on my podcast for his name is John Norris he wrote a book about it He was game-boarding and he had it turned into a tactical unit They had to get like dogs like Belgian Malamaw's and shit bulletproof vests and they're going in there having shootouts with the cartel Because the cartel it set up these marijuana grow ops in the woods and it was his job to police that area So like okay, I guess that's what we're doing now, and then they it's a crazy story man It's not like moonshine. It's tough. That's why you're going to shine in exactly and this thing moonshine moonshine Developed into NASCAR Exactly Exactly they had outrun the cops yeah, that's what NASCAR came about from it's fun It's I mean looks and also it's a al Capone, you know, it's all the mob they were all running alcohol And there's a lot of people that were connected to them, you know Some people believe that JFK's dad was involved in alcohol, but that's disputed But the point is like a lot of people were making money selling alcohol They were all criminals all of them and so what are you doing?

Are you stopping people from getting marijuana? Nope what you're doing is you're empowering a criminal empire And you're giving them an immense amount of money and they're probably gonna have to kill a few people because people getting away They're probably gonna have to rob a few people because people are competition. There's a little problem over here. We got another guy growing when we live in Society where the bad guys definitely romanticized right so how do you stop people from? Wanting to be the bad guy when it's so romanticized in everything No, it's romanticized to the point where John Wick is a good guy Yeah, John Wick is a contract killer for the Russian mob He kills who knows how many fucking people and he's a good guy, but you got a problem with the ice man, right?

You know what poison John Wick at least looks sexy in that suit, but you cannot wait for John with six I love those mother John Wick movie though. He like he had a reason they killed his dog and they stole his car They fucked up. They fucked up They stole the wrong guys car and they killed the wrong guys puppy and so you're rooting for him You're rooting for him to kill all these bad Russian guys But you don't realize like that kind of contract killer for the Russian mob for who knows how many dances he's assassinated How many fucking people in a family so that we'll never come home to them because of John Wick and yeah, and sometimes People don't care. You know, that's weird. Well, we're weird. We're a weird animal

We're a weird animal in a constant flux of thoughts and we you know trying to figure out what's the right way to think the wrong way to think and People join religions for it. They'll join cults for it. They'll join political movements for it They just want to find a way to think that makes them feel better than the way they think right now, you know with With the need to feel better outside of yourself, you know or your family you know or being You know great to society. I think that's detrimental to this society where I just mean I personally need to feel better But I don't want the community around me to feel better and in my mind if everybody around you in the community feels better I think it makes for a more harmonious, you know environment than me just being the only one Because you're a wise person the problem is there's a lot of people that aren't wise and there's no one wise around them And that's that's the real issue is that there's an extreme lack of

Like a good direction book of how to lead a solid life You're not taught at school school you taught to sit down and learn some shit They don't give a fuck about learning memorize this be good on the test you got to get a job What's the job? Well, you got to sit there and do some shit? You don't want to do it get some money and but the rest of your time you can do whatever you want as long as you keep showing up every Morning the same spot, okay, and then that sucks and so what do you want to do? I want to escape this suck, so what do I need cold syrup? Okay, give me some of that what I need weed give me some of that Adderall Oh, Adderall makes me like the job, okay, I'll take this shit every day now. I'll give a fuck now

I'm trying to get ahead next thing you know I'm moving up the corporate ladder I don't fucking animal bro, cuz I'm on Adderall you basically on meth You're on a well-designed slow drip and fedamine and you're out there fucking sleeping four hours a day getting shit done You know driving a chat bar And this is the problem as a society is it like people don't have a real there's a lot of people out there They don't really have a purpose They don't have a real feeling of purpose in their life You are very fortunate because you found a thing that you're really good at you love to do and you make a great living doing it A lot of people don't have a thing and they never they never never were taught to pursue a thing or they never saw anybody else Do it and they really they could do it too and then next thing you know They're married and they have kids and they're in their 30s and then they're in their 40s and they feel like shit. That's your question You have a team correct team of people what team of people that sure okay?

What do you think your team is happy doing whatever they do for the team? If I didn't think that they wouldn't be working okay, so you don't want to be the only one happy on the team That's terrible so and you don't want to also have someone on the team that is one of those people that just never happy That's a problem to yeah as a problem to speak. There's people there you can't fix so with like I produce other people's specials now and Comics that hit me. I mean I want you to just be my special. I want you to do this muscle and the hardest thing Because I'm a small company the the the hardest thing is when I have to explain to somebody why it's a no You know on this particular special and it's not just my no It is for other people's know because I tell people and I explain this if we doing a special with you You have to get the approval of all five of us because we all five do different things And I want everybody who's involved in your special to want to do it

Not they have to do it because it's a part of the company No, I want them to want to do it and I say I'm not putting you through a process that I'm not putting myself through And I've tested and I've tested this team with me Giving them a special that I knew that wasn't special And I'm the head I'm like I sent it out and they brought it back to the table and it was a lot of silence at first I'm like so what we think what we think and they was like I Know like I think this is our one like I'm just listening to everybody's you know I'm peeing on it and they were like I don't understand the direction I want to say what you're going with this I just you know we want to fix a lot of it I'm like and I'm just sitting there listening and we took the vote and we turned the voting in it was five nose And he was like so did what was your thing?

I said I do is a no from the beginning I just wanted to make sure that y'all wasn't gonna try to fluff me with the you know cuz he's the head I'm we gonna say yes, and I'm like good So anytime we do a project if then I put on the table Just like I put anybody else's project on table and you got to get all five people if you want me to finance You got to get me then you got to get the marketing person that's going to market You got to get the director you got to get the um the manager You got to get everybody so they can feel good about pushing your project I don't want anybody pushing a project that they don't like it's very smart Yeah, so you make it a democracy I'm smart, so you got all five of us then now we ready right and now I'm feel good about somebody coming to me and say This is gonna cost this right cuz I know they're doing it out of a man This is what's gonna cost me gonna figure it out We and I'm like cool, but even when I do a special man. They it is a lot of You don't talk about this part like no, it's like we should talk about this part and it's been some decisions that have been made That was it was my call at the end, but it was somebody else's idea like with domino effect

It would have never been a domino effect two three or four if I were to stuck with the name that I started with the name was 1983 so how would it was gonna be a three 86 I've rugged um which one or three webby awards rugged was was the original name was I'm not handy and Eric Call me was like no, we're I've listened to it I watched it so many times I think that we should go with this name and he gave me the name I said on it for a day and I called it back on night and you about right? Yeah, that's good. That means you got good people and I think that people should put like right now I'm on the custom fit tour well I'm often to August because I'm gonna take six weeks of vacation, but custom fit is Not going to be a special it's just the tour that I'm doing now because the specials that I'm writing are Different than what I just wanted to take this time to just do some material

I didn't want to be working on the special right but the theme is about people think custom-fitted about clothes It's not about clothes. It's about tailing making the people around you and saying decking you can be a benefit to it Can be a benefit to you and saying not just having these people around cuz you know Sometimes people have a bunch of people around that secretly despise them You know and secretly despise their success and that's a that's detrimental to anything haters Yeah, sometimes haters will get real close to you stay next to you It's a problem. I mean we're in a position like you're in to when you're producing other people specials You're gonna get a bunch of people to come to you that you don't want to do their shit It's just like owning the club the same issue the way I bypass that I put all the power into Adam you get the sides who's there and who's not there and how the club gets scheduled and you know who passes and who doesn't And he's really good at it. You know, he's really good at it I trust him implicitly so I don't have to think about it and I like it so that when people say I want to work your club I'm like, well, you gotta talk to Adam. I just prefer I might be the owner But I just perform there. I don't think about it in terms of like how the scheduling is I often have to check the way

Website to see who's there. I don't know who's there. You know, so it might be mine But I got a guy who does it and he does it really well. So why would I get involved in that when I when I had Um, when I had a club in Houston, I couldn't be funny in the club at all why not because I was actively working the club. So I'm on stage and I'm worried about oh, it's so many other things You know going on like yo, did you just drop a glass on the ground?

Like I'm I'm I didn't have enough help So you gotta get the right help I got very fortunate and that a lot of the people that I took to Austin They were from the county store and they were at work So the county store closed because the fucking super government of LA They wouldn't even allow them to do outside shows wouldn't you couldn't do an outside show in the parking lot other comments Store they wouldn't allow it's so stupid. They were close for like a good solid year and a half They couldn't support paying all these people so they had to get rid of them and I moved here And it's the same time. It just by chance it happened at the same time and so they were all out of work And I said hey, let's get the band back together again Let's let's do you guys want to move to Austin? So I paid for everybody to come out here and I paid for them I gave them a full salary with everything for like a year and a half or so maybe even more maybe two years before anybody had to go to Work because the club wasn't open So I was like I want to give you a job like so you could settle in get used to Austin You're gonna get paid like you get paid like you're working But you don't have to work, but I love you. I know you and you know come here very admirable with the store I just before the store

Te they had a thing before BT was not popping in and The comedy store has a certain politics to it that you know I like the other one a little more, you know, all these service problem no the other other comedy store Oh, the boy is the shit which is that places the shit what a club. They just don't have food I don't I don't want drinks. I don't believe in food economy clubs either. Yeah, so it's just a different environment La Hoya's like very nice Beautiful place that club is awesome. I love performing and with the store in LA is like you get there and it's very it seems very You know segregated this is now to me. That's when I come on goes this I just performed last week

That's that's that's out here because it wasn't like that before it seemed like the main room in the room around the corner and I'll these rooms are different spaces and That's to me and I may just it may just be that feel because I'm not there a lot, you know But when I come when before I came that time, but it managed to walk up was very pleasant We mean by different spaces obviously the different rooms, but I mean what I mean it seemed like the main room is different from the room around the corner Well, it is different, but what do you mean by feels different? It feels a little different. Well, I mean just by its design It's a big showroom. It's it's brighter the ceilings are taller and then you get into the original room Which is just heightened perfect the original room is like that's what you find out. What's real?

You know, I've seen a lot of people have rough sets they're real real confident going into that room that room is a truth theorem I like a tight room well, then then there's the belly room the belly room is the ultimate truth serum The try not new jokes in the belly room is the place because you know only seat 70 people. I can't you can't bullshit those people That's the that's the the cream that the cream is a tight Small belly rooms because I came from I came from small audiences. They're the best It's the best for finding out if jokes are real. There's nothing like a small crowd like in our club We have the little boy the little but we have our rooms are named after the bombs They dropped on here a shame and Nagasaki and little boy is only a hundred and ten seats It's a super low ceiling This is when you know, it's those times in comedy when you knew that that's what you actually love to do And I remember I was in San Antonio at his place called Santa's He he literally owned a whole strip the club the watch here to conestore everything it's got named Santa I didn't know that he owned it But it was like a rainstorm or something that he got to show got rained out and it is literally three people in this room

It's two ladies in the Santa and I don't know that this is him at the time and We had to go on to get paid the bro. They were like, I'm not paying nobody. We don't go on. We're still doing the show I'm like, okay, so this is a hundred dollars. It's getting paid a hundred dollars and he was like who going up I'm like I'm definitely going up and I'm going up first like I don't I don't care. I did like an hour and 30 minutes

People and I was like because I kept looking at like anybody was gonna be like no good I'm like I and Santa I remember he finally revealed that he was the owner of the club And he's like well, let me take you to the back and he gave me like $700 He was saying for performing. He's a yeah, man You wasn't scared of me and my friends at good time and it was like three people it literally didn't do name Vance don't put the show he was like three Vance tell anybody's like this is when I knew Ali was different when he went out Three people he went first and he's like I went 30 and he was like and it didn't look like he was coming down I'm like yo, bro. I'm here. This is what I do. I don't and I need that hundred dollars They know what else wanted to go up they like no and another time I was at Wiley It was a while at college and Marcus was performing and the mic went out And it's like all these people in this in this auditor same place They shot on didn't just shot the movie the great debate so we in this I was wearing in the sound goes out and they started ribbon Marcus and I was in the back

I was like what's going on and like the sound went out and I walked out. I was like what's happening and I said hold on Marcus I don't damn well y'all not in here trying to get somebody to problem with y'all got us in we didn't bring this out So some got us in fair east side high before broken clock and and so I say listen Marcus Marcus sit down in the back I said yo, we gonna do I'm gonna talk y'all gonna lay up then I'm gonna talk some of it Y'all can't be laughing out long because I'm not supposed to use my real voice I'm in like 45 and now look back and moccasay. Hey, man. You want to make up moccas like no Like I'm in 20 like at least nuts. I'm like no This is what I do and I'm a figure it out we did a show to improv once in Hollywood and Power went out and they were gonna cancel a show and we were sitting there talking and I said why don't can we like the stage somehow?

And they said yeah, we can get a Emergency light attached to like a generator and we could put a you know put the run the wires through the crowd and put an emergency Light on the stage. I go that's that we'll do that and then we'll just do stand up with no mic And we did the whole show with no mic. It was the opening middle and in me. I did a full hour It was amazing everybody had a great fucking time. It felt special It felt very unusual you got to see what it's like like when you don't have a microphone and you're projecting to the back of the Room changed my pacing on things, but it was great. It felt cool

It felt like you were doing something and the audience was into it. I go look we're gonna have fun right like fuck it Who cares this is gonna be this never gonna happen again probably ever never I've been doing comedy 30 something years I've never had that happen where I did a show with no microphone except that one So this is the thing these are the experiences that as a comic going through the trenches That some comics are never have right because they didn't come up that way and you have a different set of chops And when you come up a certain type of way I've come up and just joking had to be the craziest place Because some nights you're coming in it's like nine people But these nine people into comedy and I was like you gotta do the show like it's not a We don't have a limit We gotta do these people that's here because what the thing is that whole idea that the show must go on regardless regardless to well I learned that from Paul Mooney to and one of the things I said I did a show at the comic store It's like the first time that Mooney ever complimented me I was always scared of him because like a booty didn't like it was terrifying. It seems a legend

He was a legend wrote for Richard Pryor and it was like the way he carried himself He didn't like you like and I was 20 something you know I was young and stupid and I I Went up because I would always go up last or late late spots And there was like 15 people in the room but I did my act and I heard in the back room He was laughing having fun and then he grabbed me afterwards he goes you're a real motherfucking comic He goes that's what real comic does he goes all these other motherfuckers They went up there and they did oh where you from bitch I know where I'm from tell me some fucking jokes do your fucking act and that's what you did And I was like wow Paul Mooney likes me Me and Paul had a different type of relationship Did you and Paul not get along um One I always say I love I love Paul in time editing Paul was on bullshit when he when I met Paul man I was in problem I was featuring for him and the improv it got me to feature for him and I like cool I'm excited I get to meet one of my idols in this game one of the people who changed the course of my pacing because it my

My lineage is sitting down. I passed through Paul So it's when I first started I was a crazy man I was all over the place thought that you had to have this all this energy and then this guy named Des White Walked into the club one night. I was there and Des stood in the same exact place Oh, he never took the mic out to stand put his drink down the stool and there's just stood there And he was destroying this room never took the mic out the stand and people and he always thought my people say Des Des why you don't take the mic out the stand anything because there's a stand Some of my favorite comics don't take the mic out of stand Ron White Ron White just stands there with a drink on a stool Sometimes with cigar just killing with the microphone in the stand. Oh man. Joey Diaz Joey Diaz keeps the fucking mic in the stand and he makes me laugh harder than any fucking human being has ever lived that So I'm gonna go to go to finish Paul. I'm gonna go to Ron

So what did he do though? So I'm in the green room and at the old and probably at a downstairs you come through it used to be a rainforest So it was spelled by me at first and then it changed so I'm sitting in the green room in like it's a main part And it's a smaller part. He walked into the small part and said hey Go count the room. I'm like what yeah, go count the room. I Was like I don't I don't work here like that. I don't count the room and he's like yeah

All right, and he walked out and then he came back like maybe 25 minutes there. Yeah, tell you on your little white friend that is packed out there I want my bonus What like what like train? What do you talk about Raymond cook is the manager the club is not even who's all about Raymond? And I was like your part. I don't count the room. I'm the feature

Why would I be counting the fucking room like and then he says something else negative me and I'm like your pal if you say something else To me, I'm gonna kick your ass I called DL my yo, I'm on the fucking beat up on it. He's like you can't beat up on he's a legend You're still not gonna win. He's like it's gonna be a lot so I'm like, oh, so then another time Oh, and then lay down that same weekend He had this lady with him and she was sitting at the top and I was sitting up there and she got up and she left her purse So I didn't want to leave and leave the ladies first there So I grabbed it travel. I got the purse like this. I came in. I'm like, hey, man. You love your person Paul turn on

What are you doing with her purse? I say she left it and I can deal with only thing in my head is deal You cannot beat up Paul Monique. I just walked down like I'm gonna fuck Paul up. What year was this? This is like three years before he died Oh improv. This is what I heard just for clarity. He was struggling in the last years of his life

So you probably didn't get the best version of Paul Monique. So then we here in Austin. We performing at the home the theater That's right next to the Paramount is just another theater is connected to the Paramount The black heritage or the black art something and book both of us not knowing that we are I'm in my green room and the lady comes in. Hey, she's very nice. Hey, Ali Paul money's next door It was an and you like the medium and saying I was like, no cool and then she goes Paul I leave next door, you know I don't know if y'all want to meet each other and Paul's like no, I'm cool and I went up I'm in my green room and the host is on stage and Paul's getting ready to go up and this was his apology He walked by the room and came back like on Purple Rain came back and leave the room to him hi Ali and then I Yeah, but he that's you got to take that you know, there's certain people are just eccentric. That's Paul

I mean I wouldn't have counted the fucking room either. I would have been like that's not my job. Yeah, but Ron White I was in Orlando Manage Orlando call me saying hey, I know you have an ever um a feature but um Ron White would like to um You know feature feed I was like I don't know No person a wrong way. She's like you don't know wrong way I'm like wait a minute like Ron White right I think it's like some other guy who's using his name or something His name happens to be wrong way to like Ron White right way. He's like yeah I say you want to be one of these for who say you he called in ass. I was like

I call Marcus my your Marcus you gonna go up and then you're gonna be like Ron White What was this this was like maybe four years ago? That's crazy and Ron shows up in this huge tour bus Like I'm walking to the club and I'm like who buses this and I'm like oh shit is Ron's The key to brand on it and all and he's in his bus. He's not even in the green room Then he did I get knock on the door and it's his man. He's like hey Ron like to know can you come in the green room? I was like he's like wrong. He doesn't come in so it comes in. He's like yo man. I just want to do it

Just want to do some time and Ron went up there and was destroying this role and I can wait to get up I want to talk about fucking wrong white just beat to me I'm I destroyed his room around he said I'd watch he's like it's fucking amazing like in my mind is I'm still in audit Ron White Well work with you like that. It was crazy. That's so cool. Well, you know when he's working on new stuff That's what he likes to do looks to go around and does a lot of sets. He's constantly active He's at the club tonight, but working tonight. He's one of the main reasons I moved here Ron moved here before the pandemic

So I called him up in like 2018. I loved having him at the store So he started coming to the store around 2014-ish something like that and oh my god We had so much fun for years and years and he had a beautiful place up in Beverly Hills And then he just got sick because he's always traveling just got sick of the long flights and the traffic and I called him up I go why'd you move to Texas? It was Austin's amazing the food's fucking great. Everyone's nice It's in the middle of the country if I want to fly to Florida It's quick I want to fly to like god damn it Can I live in Texas and then the shit at the fan with COVID and I was like I get the fuck out of California This place sucks. They're telling me what to do. I don't want to sign up for you tell me I can work

You tell me I have to wear a mask fuck you I'm getting out of here and when I came to Austin I was one of the main reasons why I was willing to move here I'm like if we never do comedy again at least I can hang out with Ron That's amazing. Yeah, and then everybody else came and then once I mean Everybody says that I got everybody to move here sorta I got a lot of people to move here But Ron got me to move here That's the most important thing like wrong got me to move here And then I realized how nice people are here and how disconnected they are from show business And I was like oh so refreshing everyone's just normal my neighbors are normal guys Everyone's normal they're regular people just people living their lives having a good time You know it's like and for me, you know cuz I love hunting. This is everyone hunts out here Yeah, it's it's like a normal pastime. I tell people I bow hunt in California Texas Texas we have been a gym for a long time We just let we let other people feel like they the upper echelon we like okay, Texas ruled forever I think kennison and Hicks to the greatest of all time came out of Houston Yeah, and when I was coming here all the time I knew it right so one of things that was good about doing comedy is a lot of people that moved during the pandemic

Just wanted to get out of California, but they had no idea what the rest of the world's gonna be like They never been to Nashville. They never never been to Austin. I've been here a couple dozen times I knew I loved it so I was like look this will be all right like I'll be fine like it looks like I'm never doing comedy again I was like it looks like comedy's done It looks like they're gonna fucking make us just stay indoors especially in like blue cities like this is crazy You have to have a vax card eat at a restaurant in New York City like this is fucking bananas none of the shit makes any sense I remember you guys came mothership was coming the next thing. I know creaking the cave was here Criking the campus your first. Yeah, I'm saying how I heard about it Like yeah, like creaking the cave. I'm like okay creaking the cave come from New York and then

Mothership is here and then but they had rooms, you know the main thing was um was the room that that was um so hard to get in that first On the Austin Comedy Club. Damn. I forget the name of it. Velvet a room. No. No is the actual comedy club cap city. Yes

Um cap city that place was always back. Yeah, you know, I almost bought that place. Yeah, I heard that Yeah, I almost bought that whole mall but the guy Trying to sell it to me wanted way more than it was worth and then he got roped up in some FBI investigation I was told while it was going on and he was being investigated and I was like, oh, okay And then you want to get arrested and but that building was for sale the whole thing was for sale I went in there. I thought about how many shows I've been there. How many such a lot seen there How many shows I perform there over there? I got on this place. Oh my god cap city was the first place

That I did on the road with on the L. That was a great club, you know fucking great club perfect club That place was amazing such a fun place to work I think that people didn't realize how the rich history of Houston Dallas Austin last time in Tony Oh, but last stop in Houston Yeah, bro. Oh, one of the greatest clubs of all time. Somebody told me that that building still exists like that That's still set up like that. There's nothing in it. Is that true? Nothing in it though. It's still the same room

Man, we might have to do a mothership Houston. Yeah, that's uh, yeah You see if there's another city that could support like a large group of talented up-and-comers Houston's one of them Yeah, so, you know, we have um secret group there. We have um they had the other caps that was upstairs remember They opened up the second one they closed that one and the last time I left the captain I'm sorry last time. Yeah last time. Oh, no. No, no. They had that already. No, no the last spot it went upstairs

They were on wall there. I thought there was a little laugh stop I thought it was the same group that knows the same group that owned the laugh stop in River Oaks The last spot was another place I knew that because when I was working at the laugh stop Ralphie May was working at the last spot We got together. We're hanging out and he dinner but that was that was that was the old spot Then there was the other laugh stop that they put upstairs. It was a new but it didn't last it was only It was a good spot. Yeah, then it went under Yeah, our sphere did it with Hitler mustache once he trimmed his mustache look like a dog Hitler All right, Ari is Ari is is by far the craziest person that I know like I thought my uncle Mac was the craziest person I'm like this is the craziest person that I know he's awesome Yeah, and he just I'm like brother gonna stab you. He moved in with a fucking stab you. They said people there don't get stabbed

Ari is nuts, but he's such a cool dude. I'm not I said I was gonna see him at the creak in the cave when he was getting ready to film his special and I like yo, Ari is so crazy If you just if people took time just go through the different the mini looks of Ari should feel in the net the one that killed me was the half Just bought on one side. Yeah, you know, no, I'm like you're doing two-face Same you do face for Batman. He's out of his mind, but but that's really who he is. You know, he's not trying. He's not trying

He's not he's out of his mind When he told Bert when I heard about him there no birds check it was like $25,000 He's like you always made 20 about that. He just told it check up. They're rich another one He's the craziest person, but he's fun. I've had some great conversations on the phone with him And he's just and I was very fucking smart dude. I was very smart when he called me to do the on his last the endless Mm-hmm, you know, I was like that's cool to take that that's where that's a pivoting point a major point in my career when I did This is not happening. Yeah. Yeah, that was a great show man. It was a great idea

I remember when he started doing it you started doing it at the lab at the improv so you remember the lab? Yeah, a little room cool little room. They should never got rid of that room They've changed that place and they fucked it up in my opinion That's the room the room the main room still awesome But the lab used to be in the back and it was like there wasn't a big bar there. I think it's still there We've got different. Yeah, the other coal. I was less on the D on coal. Yeah, but it's different

It's not it's not the same setup. It used to be you went through a door and it was like another small room and in that small room It was separated from the front door They moved the front door and now everybody went in through the parking lot Right and so they went into the lab through the parking lot So the the front door was back there that now and when you would open it It was all this noise from the street and they had a curtain to block off the noise and you'd hear people talk They were like right next to your stage where they're buying tickets It was annoying and then there was the bar which is right there It's still a cool little small room once everybody settles in but the original setup was way better and Ari started doing it there I was like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm gonna do a storyteller show. I was like well What was that? That's what I thought. I was like, why why are you doing that?

And then he said well it really helps you without like having to have like punch lines and setups and have everything really tight You can find the beats in a story and I was like, oh, well actually that's brilliant. That's pretty fucking smart It's a good alternative sort of way to develop bits You know you develop bits by working it out But into a more loose format of telling a story and I didn't even know that that was the premise behind it because when I got it It was like you just go and you tell a true story and I was like, okay cool. That's my that's my thing, you know And I had just one Comedy Central's comic to watch in like 2013 So you get a package you get an album you get a half hour and you get a chance to go on one of the shows That's already on Comedy Central. So they was pitching me at the Adam Divine show and I was like, I don't like it and It was another show. I was like, no, I'm cool So every show that they would say that they want to be gone like not really my thing So then chase the Russo young comic call me and say hey, listen, you might want to go on

This is not happening. I was like what's that he says is a show start on the internet, you know, you know, you I went on I watched both. I think both seasons of it on the internet I was like, yo, this is the this the one so I call and Harris that kind of say this is the show that I want to do and Already know me. I was like, I don't know him But Eric Abrams is when the co-creators of the show. He was like, I know him so he's pretty good You should bring him on and already with already tell anybody like I didn't know what he was gonna do But I know it was a true all you have to do is in a true story And I was like perfect Eric thought that I was gonna do the story that I did on the second time that I was on But I and I'm like when I got there I was listening to people's stories and I was like now I'm gonna do a lighter story because the second story is Mitchell It's like when I was gonna kill the CEO and I was like, no I should do a lighter one and then I did the prison ride which is affectionately known as mixing out on boots and Or is like the best one story ever and like me telling the story about a riot a prison ride

And I was telling what happened and I only did like 16 minutes would happen that that was a whole that was a whole ordeal Like it wasn't a 16 minute riot. It was like nine hours like the whole thing is like not only told the beginning part of it Which was you know pretty cool, you know what happened already lost the show, right? Yeah, and so that so when the show came back as with Roy was they called me to do it and The loyal spirit in me I Called Ari first I was like, hey, they want me to do this show. I'm really not fucking with it And he's like no, no do it. I was like what is I heard about all the stuff?

He's like man do it Eric Eric is still shooting it He was saying so you should do it because we wanted you to be the host but they didn't they didn't want you to do it You know they got Roy, which is cool. I don't think they wanted anybody affiliated with Ari to do it So we're punishing Ari so when they tell people why so for people They don't know they already got a deal he got an offer to do a Netflix special And he wanted to do it and they wanted him to do the special on Comedy Central And he said well, I don't have to it's not in my contract. They said well if you don't do it We're gonna cancel your show and he was like wow, I can't believe you do that and I mean what you do. All right No, no, so we were trying to figure it out. I offered the hosted for free. I said I will come in and hosted

I'd already done it I saw coming out hosted for no money I go because he wanted to make sure that everybody was paid he was gonna take out a loan and Ari was gonna pay all the grips All the camera people because they you know these people they chart out there a year They're like oh I'm doing this is not happening for the next six weeks and then I'm doing this for five weeks And I'm that's their year and that's how they budget their life and Ari decided that he was gonna take out a loan to pay everybody So and I'm like wow I go this and man It go tell Comedy Central that I'll host it for free. They weren't interested. They weren't interested in anybody affiliated with him He tried to he offered up a bunch of other comics. Yeah, they weren't interested So I was in that group of the bunch because I know it was you it was Joey Me bird and they just got me to do it once already told me it was cool He's like man do it. Yeah, I would never try stop anybody from working So what I what I went on into and did in my protest of you know, you know, you don't want Ari So what I did was told a story about Ari I just told it like okay cool. It's like my story is mushroom story which is an R. It's a bit

So they say I thought I was you know second season. I did a show. Ari gave me a mushroom And I went to the whole thing of what happened with our game in the mushroom I ate the mushroom. I didn't know they were mushrooms mushrooms. I thought they were something else and it was like I ate of mushrooms And it was a long day Real thing to not tell you not to eat all of them and I remember Janice Janice was my assistant and I remember I had to fly the next day and I'm still I'm still going I'm out of my shit So I get to the airport and I call Janice. I said Janice people are going through this machine

And then I'm not seeing them anymore It's like he's not he's going like Janice said they probably going to various places I was like, but I don't want to go to various. I want to go to Houston So then when I get up to the USA and I said hey I'm seeing a lot of people go through the machine and then I'm not seeing them anymore Where they going to man said man various places and I got out the line. I called Janice. You all right. They are going to various That's like he's nuts. He's losing it. I'm like yo

I was so toasted and just getting on the plane with my still full of mushrooms It was I just I wanted to close my eyes, but she just wasn't working. It was like I was out of it I never it's much was a crazy thing. It's a crazy thing and that same week I was there for a couple day. Joy Diaz gave me a black star And I remember calling somebody was like yo, don't you eat that shit? If you want to lose it don't you episode of I'm on joy Diaz just back when I was smoking I took an edible with the Flying Jew and me and him it's like you literally see us I was fine at first and then you join the only person that's in the studio that's that's still together and you just slowly see us Just melting we both did and then I know I was speaking very good English at one point then I was a news like The church of what's happening now had some of the greatest overdose on weed moments ever in the history of the internet

Just Lee just seeing Lee sigh. I just melting because he was eyes open. He's just melting his chair You know, it's like at first I was like yo, he's tripping and I was like this is not happening to be like it was crazy Joe ideas doesn't give a fuck and then there's I want to see the devil The other side of the story is another comic with me named Billy Sarrails. He had taken some edibles But he ain't on the show so he's outside. He didn't just melt it Like he just sitting on the ground outside to be like yo those black stars are 500 milligrams yo I that well. Yeah, I saw Joey to those ones

Just stuck down two of them. I'm like that is so crazy. That's so much It you know Jamie doesn't feel it edibles don't work on him. All right, Jamie's got some weird fucking biological condition Fucking not scared of edibles at all. I've done two different types of mushrooms I didn't know that they were it's like the ones where I was really on one as the one is arguing and then some other ones That made me very talkative Drew on his shirt Back together again. Yeah, man. They're doing it. They're doing it out of New Jersey. Is that what they're doing? Yeah

He's the best I remember I call Moses alone for Joe because he's a big most alone fan before Moses died I call it like you know most alone. No fuck away. You know what I'm like. Yeah. No fuck most Yeah, most of us most was nuts too like most of us like a nut Have you heard about these new mushrooms that make you see little tiny people? Oh, no, no

I have it the talkative ones were like I called a lot of people on my phone and everybody's same report was You know, you call me like three in a month or you want to talk to me about my life? Oh And which ones are those what did you take not so Simon? It's something different. Yeah, it's some different It made me very talk of the delay. I told delay about him without me It's kind of a name delay. I told him about because I called him and I talked to him for like hours

Just about so then he end up taking the same mushrooms He called me and I knew it was like go ahead just talk He was talking his ass off I put the phone out and put the sneak I woke up. He was still talking I'm like yo, this is crazy. What is it? I mean, I got it Put that into perplexity I got a call put that into our AI sponsor find out what mushrooms make you talkative Yeah, I know who gave him to me so I call her and I say it wasn't sure That you gave me because she went in bottom and like I was fucking targeted next I don't know what that is. I've never heard of that before most of the time people take shrooms. I can't talk

It was like I was all one I was one because the one that already gave me It seems that there's different responses to different ones I don't use enough research perplexity to have a Right how much research are they doing out there? Talkative social on magic mushrooms, but there's no specific mushroom reliably proven to make you talk it All right, so ask if there's a mushroom that makes you see little people. I know I know but I want to see what perplexity I'll say about it. What is perplexity say ask it about is there a mushroom that makes you see little people? Let's see if it really is up on its psychedelic science But I want to see what it says though. That's just a question to see how it handles this

Yes specific edible mushroom called land mohua Asciatica has been reported to cause very vivid hallucinations you say hallucinations Maybe there really little people right there of little people when it's undercooked a phenomenon known as little pution hallucinations So things how do you know it's a hallucination? Maybe you're just now can see these things that people can writing about for eons How ignorant are people and how arrogant are we that we know everything that's going on all around us all the time? We don't people always thought gremlins are real and gnomes were real Very studying that since the 60s of course they have been I'm studying right now. Let's study. Let's go study mushrooms Yeah, let me study in it, but like the real problem is there's got to be a bunch of I know for sure There's other strains that are much more potent because I know a guy who's a mushroom guy He's like deep in the world of mushrooms and he's explaining to me that there's one that's like 10x stronger And there's one there's new ones that they found I think I found a new one I want to say in China they found a new hallucinogenic mushroom, but this one this little appuchin one is weird because it's not

So I went cook this has to do with crying out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a little see tomorrow No, it's um that I think this might be the Chinese one because I think it's a book is it yeah, okay So this is I can play the show so they eat it if you cook it and you do a real good job cooking it You don't trip but apparently some people have not cooked it and eat and go Oh wait a minute What are we cooking out of this when you're you might be cooking out? Whatever the mushroom is giving you to let you see the spirit world or see the fairy world or the gnome world or whatever it is With restaurant you can get in restaurants. Let's go. I'd be like hey

Hey, I'll under cook my just put it on some salad dressing Unfortunately, I don't have a problem with mushrooms. I think that and I just like me what do you mean? Because you know some people like you shouldn't be on it like but I don't have a problem with mushrooms and especially if I'm in a You know safe environment, but being at the lows on mushrooms That's the best place to be like also trying to fight it if you fight it your fucked if you start going and you start No, I don't like this like oh, oh I'm gonna get dark on you like I've had a man chocolate like a little chocolate squares and it's been it's been a time I don't let's spend time but sometimes I can get right to see little people. I definitely want to be somewhere I just need to be somewhere safe Brian Simpson has a Larry story about he's gonna get my mushroom chocolate bar And he put it in his freezer and forgot forgot that it was a mushroom bar and they just ate the whole thing and just went to Pluto He's like dr. Manhattan sit on Mars fucking Lotus position. This one's kind of strange

It says doesn't matter who you are or what you do you're gonna have the same experience as everybody else has done it Okay at that point in time when do we start to say maybe there's something in this substance this compound this molecule that Let's you interact with something that's real that's around you if it's repeatable over and over and over again if all these people see the same thing over and over again and people have been writing about it since the beginning of time they've been writing about elves and fairies and Gnomes and magic people in the woods. What's it they were doing? They were eating these fucking mushrooms. So it's a show that I watch that I still don't know What this show is about but I've watched almost season number four and I have no idea what it's called from I've been watching it. I love that show. I'm in the middle of season four right now

And so you know he's taking mushroom the one guy did it spoiler No, but you know what you know already spoiler. I know but people listen don't know hey don't fuck this up It's good another one of the new shows that's been talked about get moved no no no that's still on Paramount Yeah, it's MGM. I think it's MGM. Yo in a fucking show. Yeah, very original. I still people is officially on Netflix

There it is Oh, oh, wait a minute. Hold on maybe it's on Netflix as well. Yeah, that's all I was saying. Oh, that's what it came on But you watch all these season good show but you have no idea what there's no rules It's and so I call my I want to make a show that is about whatever we doing. And he's like, well, give me an example.

I say, watch from. Like I've watched all of us, I cannot tell you what this show is about. It's like, I know that this is good. For people that don't know, they want to watch it. It's people trapped in this town.

They all have the same circumstance. There's a down tree in the road. They can't go further. So they're back to turn around and they find themselves in a loop that keeps leading them through the town over and over and over and over again. And no one in the town can escape.

And at nighttime, monsters come out. And they look like people. They look like a male man. That scary ass milk man. Oh, look.

That milk man is insane. That old lady? That old lady. That old lady. Terrifying show.

It gives me anxiety and I know it's all fake. It's like it's a crazy show. Yeah. And season four is even more bizarre. Yeah.

Like everything that I be thinking, I'm like, yo, I think this is what it is. And then it doesn't be that, but then it'll come in. Like see, and I'm like, see what? Like what am I, I don't know to freak this show is going. I don't know.

No one knows where it's going. But it's like lost. The same people that made lost made that show. Word. Yeah.

That's why it has that same sort of feel. It's like crazy doesn't mean nothing. You can't predict what's going to happen. Nothing makes sense. And very entertaining.

Lowy tickles this shit. I've been loins made about every guy. But it's so it's a crazy situation. But it's very interesting. Like I don't miss it.

I love it. Yeah. I've been binging it. So I started, I guess me and my wife started about month ago or so and we burned through the first three seasons. And now we're to the fourth.

Yeah, it's good. And I think the next season's coming out in 2027. But I don't think I think the next season's the last season. Unless they decide to keep it going. Finale.

It's the finale. They just announced that it's going to be the last season. And maybe when that money comes rolling in. But the thing about this kind of show is you can do whatever you want. Yeah.

You go back in time. You can do wild shit. I don't want to give anything away. But there's no rules. You can make anything happen.

You can make anything happen. It's a very strange show. But it's very entertaining. It's all man. It's a very entertaining show.

Yeah. But if you want to just sit at home and watch shit and not do anything, man, you never picked a better time to be alive. You can waste your whole life just staring on a screen. And when I ask people, my palate for what I take in is different than a lot of people. And I turned people on to a show.

I turned my boy on the pinky blinders. I was like, yo, you got to watch Pink Blonde. He called me. And I remember my boy, like I saw invested in the first show, the motorcycle show that I turned him on to. I know what you're talking about.

I never watched it. What is that show? That motorcycle show everybody liked? You know what I'm talking about you? That's it.

That's it. I turned him on the songs and anarchy. And it's a person on there that you kind of get invested in. And I remember he called me and said something about him. And I was like, yo, who?

Like, what you saying? And I'm putting on my shoes. And then I noticed, are you talking about the person on the song that I got? He said, yeah, that's fucked up what they did. I was like, yo, you're crazy, man.

He's like, no, I'm so invested. And I was like, yo, man, you are a wild person. But you know, songs are anarchy, pinky blinders. Like, I was big on Yellowstone. And now the two spinoffs of Yellowstone, Marshall's, and the Dutton Ranch, I can't not watch it.

Like, it's some good shows out there. And I just can't watch the typical stuff. I got to watch something that had a little more to it than what normal people would watch. Like, I like to see normal people in shows, like something I can relate to. The Dutton Ranch, you know, being Texas, I don't know how ranching is.

This is how I always experienced how ranching goes with cows and how you keep your land and all these different fights that people have over land. I'm like, shit is pretty interesting. It's very interesting. Taylor Sheridan's a friend of mine. Got me that.

He was on here the other day talking about it. But the other show I love is Land Man, same kind of deal. It's all about the oil industry. You just realize like, oh, Jesus, is this how all this works? Yeah, it's other things happening in life.

And it's way more notorious people than a drug dealing show. This is, man, crude oil is a business. So it's such a big business? Of course, you're going to get devious shit going on. You're going to get shit happening.

Has to. The real world of oil must be nuts. It must be nuts. I mean, that's why we're in war right now. You have to be ruthless with oil.

I guess a big thing. And I don't understand fake meat. Why would people be giving somebody fake meat? Well, because they make money sound fake meat. That's why.

I mean, that's what a lot of people were trying to push while they were saying the cows are bad. Cows in methane to the environment, man. It's bullshit. But while they're doing this, someone is pushing this idea that we need to stop eating meat, because they're profiting off of us not eating meat. That's what it is.

It's not bad for you. It's good for you. You need it protein. Super healthy. One of the best foods in the world for you.

There's just a bunch of horseshit out there saying we need to eat less meat for the environment. No, we need to figure out how to not pollute. That's for sure. But regenerative farms aren't polluting. You're full shit.

It's not true. You know, if you want to say we need to stop doing factory farming, OK, maybe. Yeah, that's probably a good thing to do. But you need to figure out how to feed all these fucking people. You've developed a system that's entirely reliant on massive amounts of animals moving through.

The amount of chickens that people eat in America every day is crazy. It's cool. What do the amount of chickens that get consumed in America every day? Let's guess. 20 million.

At least. At least. I want to say 50 million. 50 million chickens a day. How many million chickens a day get killed?

Oh, OK. How many do we eat? How many millions of chickens do we eat every day in America? Because I know I can account for three in my house. 22 million chickens every day, son.

That's nuts. That is a crazy amount. That's way bigger than the entire residence of Los Angeles. If every person was a chicken, every we eat that amount in this country every day. That's crazy.

In my home alone, if we roast in chicken, and we're going to get a roast chicken, we're going to get three of them. Because I didn't even know that I could eat a whole chicken by myself until I did it. It's like, yo, man, it's Muslim grocery store. They sell them in there. It's already roasted.

And you get two garlic sauces with each chicken. And once you dip a piece of that chicken, then garlic sauce, it's not going to survive. It's like, I bought three of them. Because I know if two are going to make it home, I have to eat this one by myself. And they put it on a piece of Peter Bridget.

It's already roasted. And it's insane that I would eat a whole chicken by myself. Estimates suggest 24 to 26 million chickens are killed every day in the United States for meat. So if you don't want factory farming, you've got to figure out a solution where you can get 26 million chickens a day, or you convince people that you need to stop eating meat. If we look at, say if I'm looking at a show on Game of Thrones or House Dragons, when I would see them sit down to eat, it was a lot of meat on that table.

Variations of meat. It's a whole, I've never seen the king sit down. He wasn't a whole entire pig on the table. And then most people haven't bought a lamb. And you think that a lamb is enough.

It depends on who's there. If we, if it's it and it's after the fast and you put a lamb on a spew and all these Muslim families come here, that's not enough. You need another lamb. You need two lambs. Like, oh, lamb.

It's, man, it's, it's delicious. It's great for you, too. Don't let anybody tell you any different. Oh, and I'm, and they can't, but I'm not really listening. Like when somebody tell me about a vegan situation, I listen to you, but none of it is going in, it's like, you know what I say, something comes in, one day, go out the other.

It's not even going into here. It's like, I've already made my decision. Okay, I'll be with you. But I'm not really listening to you. I'm eating the lamb.

Go. I mean it. Life eats life. It's just the factory farming thing is the uncomfortable part. That's the gross part.

And if you just were on a ranch, it's natural. It's natural. You want to get overtaken. Just let the animals just do their thing. And see how many, see, see don't you see them.

I am legend taught you that. Yeah. Like, yo, how many animals ran through a, a place of stampede? Like, it's a, so even like with the thing that happens in ocean sardines, right? So mass, all these mass sardines come one spot.

And the whales come first, then the sharks come. And then, then we still get sardines. After all these, this ecosystem is eaten, we still get sardines. It's, you're not running out of natural, if you let everything do it, do it thing. You know, you do know how many jellyfish, and then somebody just start eating them.

And then, because that is a crazy jellyfish can mob out. Like mob out. And they can kill you. And they can kill you. Yeah.

Somebody eat them. Something eats them. You can eat them at Chinese restaurants. I've had jellyfish before. Was it good?

I don't remember being good. I don't remember where I ate it. But I remember someone cooked a specific type of jellyfish. So I didn't even know you could cook that. In Texas and Louisiana.

What kind of jellyfish are edible? In Texas and Louisiana. The amount of crawfish that we eat in two months is literally insane. Imagine they didn't. Imagine the crawfish would be.

Look, because imagine. I know I can count for at least 50 pounds by myself. I know. Look at how many crawfish there would be if people weren't eating them. Like when I was a kid, I grew up in Florida for a while.

We lived in Florida in Gainesville. And there was alligator. But they were protected. Back then, alligators were protected. Like the Everglades.

Well, it wasn't the Everglades. Okay. Hold on. That's known as edible species in Asian cuisine. Oh boy.

Try to say that word. Rope lema escalentum. Offered to as the Japanese edible jellyfish. That's a lot easier. Or flame jellyfish.

Yeah. So there's a few different species of jellyfish. Anyway, my point was when I was a kid, alligators were protected. And they were at this lake. And you can see them.

And people throw marshmallows in the water and the alligators would eat them. And then now there's too many. Like there's so many alligators there now. Like they can't get rid of them. They're in every body of water.

Everywhere you go is alligators. Yeah. The entire Everglades filled with alligators. So of course it's filled with alligators. I remember when they, when they, like here, got eaten.

Oh, Disney World? Yeah. And I was like, yo, that's insanity. Because I don't trust a puddle of water in Florida. No.

I, a puddle, it could be a puddle. I'm like, it's alligator. And it's like, what they, what they removed, 400 some odd alligators from Disney World. Oh, they remove them all the time. They have to check every day.

Like, it's like, they go back there and make sure that there's no alligators. It's like a huge number of the things. It's a huge number. Like, it's like maybe 24 this year, 24 years, or 40 or something this year. But it's 400 or something a while.

Like, that's insane. No, Disney World has a bass fishing lake. You can go bass fishing at Disney World. There's like a little trip that you take. You go there.

414 alligators removed from Disney World since Tyler's death 10 years ago. It's a lot of monsters, man. They're legit monsters. I remember when I was in Guam, I was in Guam doing a show. And I think the military moved there and it was a bird that they were trying to protect.

And so they killed all these snakes. And this is how when you change the ecosystem to something, something happens. So the snakes, I don't know what they eat in that bird, but they were eating and controlling the total population. So when they got rid of the snake, we were coming back from the show and it's like it's literally hundreds of thousands of frogs that come out that night. It's like you just see them flat in the street because you can't miss them.

It was hundreds of thousands of frogs on Guam. And I was like, yo, man, they got to do something. People meddle. Yeah, they got to bring the snake back. Yeah, it kind of brings the snake back.

Stop. Stop. Stop your bullshit. People just meddle. I mean, there's so many countries that are infested with animals that people brought in to kill other animals.

And like Australia is a giant feral cat problem. They brought in feral cats. I think to kill it, I forget what species. I think it was a toad that we're trying to kill off. My neighborhood has a goddamn cat problem.

And my neighborhood is like one cat has some babies. And my family has some to do with it. We fed the cat and then ship it. Of course. You want to be nice.

Meanwhile, they're killing billions of birds every year in this country. Cats. I love cats too, but they kill billions, house cats, kill billions of birds and mammals in this country every year. If you don't have a bug problem, you have a cat in your house. We had these water bubbles that got them cockroaches.

But I've watched it before I left the cat that's outside. He was just slapping one around. He's like five of them dead out there. He's just slapping one around, like just toying with him. But I don't mind because then they never make it into my house.

It's like cats. I don't know about the Fort Pest campaign that happened in China. What does that mean? What do they do? They explained it to you in this little Fort Pest.

Under Mao aimed at exterminating rats, flies, mosquitoes and sparrows as a part of the great leap forward. It was framed as a public hygiene and agricultural protection drive meant to reduce disease and protect grain from being eaten or contaminated. Mass mobilization methods included trapping and poisoning rats, swatting flies, mosquitoes and organized efforts to scare and kill sparrows. Before you get to the end here, they had one little problem so they introduced something else to fix that problem. That created a new problem so they introduced something else to fix that problem.

It ended here with tens of millions of people dying from a famine because they didn't have the natural ecosystem. This is correct. So sparrows were targeted because they ate grain seeds but they also consumed large numbers of crop eating insects. Their near extinction caused an ecological imbalance leading to insect population booms, lower crop yields and contributing to Chinese famine, the great Chinese famine, which tens of millions died. Wow.

Yeah, man, you don't think you're smarter than nature. You dumb fuck. You gotta give something to kids because... There's a balance out there and we don't totally understand that balance. What's this fish that we have now?

Asian carp, the ones that invested all the different lakes and then there's a snake head, that's another one. Then they'll jump that torpedoes up. That's Asian carp. They fly through the air when you're in a boat. They just, for whatever reason, when you're in a boat, they just try to throw themselves into the boat.

They give me the fuck out of this lake. There's so many of them. And they don't have a natural predator. And they bring them into places sometimes to clean up the algae. And then also now you have a carp problem.

Another carp eat all the algae. They eat everything. Where this whole lake looks like a swimming pool. There's no algae left. Look at these fucking things.

That is crazy. That's the Illinois River. I mean, this is just hundreds of fish just flying through the air everywhere they go. How nuts is that? You ever see people, they shoot them with bows and arrows?

So they wait from the hop up in the air and they try to catch them in the air with a bow and arrow? Yeah, there's a bunch of people do that. That's a very popular sport. Is this fish edible? I don't know.

I've never heard of anybody. I know people eat regular carp. I don't know if Asian carp edible? Yep. There you go.

That's precious. Clean mild flavor. So I'll just have a net rolling behind me. Flamed fish? Don't you guys need product?

There you go. Get out there. It's bows and arrows. Get it done. How many crawfish does Texas and Louisiana consume in crawfish season?

That's a good question. I guess you'd have to do it in pounds. Would you do it in pounds or millions of actual crawfish? Because they don't measure them in individuals. They may buy weight, right?

Because they're kind of... How many pounds of crawfish do you think? Texas? Just say Texas and Louisiana in a year. 50 million?

Oh, I have to ask again, but it did give me 90% of the farm crawfish comes from Louisiana. Yeah. 90%. How many pounds? I didn't.

How many pounds is... I went way too high. How many pounds does Texas and Louisiana consume in a year? I'm gonna say two million pounds. No, we gotta be in the middle of that.

Really? Two million pounds is a lot. It's fucking way more than that. What is it? What is 70% of the consumed amount is eaten in Louisiana and the total is upwards of 150 million pounds?

Yeah, 120 to 150 million annually. Whoa. Yeah. 20% which is almost 100 million pounds of that is just in Louisiana. Not too crazy.

Between crawfish boils and crawfish activity fate? That is... That's delicious. That's delicious. That's a crazy thing.

That doesn't have a number, just as tens of millions. Well, we need to know. We've got to Louisiana. How many times do we have to double with the whole country? That's crazy.

Maryland actually thinks that they are being on cry out and we just be checking on here like okay. I think we ship cry out to them. The Chesapeake Bay cannot outdo the Gulf of Mexico. No. Gulf of America, by the way.

It is. We still. We still. I don't think Mexico agreed. It's like no.

It's like no. It's like no. It's not the Gulf of America. We're not saying that. That's hilarious.

Hey brother, it's a great talk to you again as always. It's always fun. Very good to do. Thank you. Do more often.

I'm here. Okay. Let's do it. It's always fun. Tell everybody whether they want to consume all your specials.

All of it's on YouTube. Go to d garcom. The new special out, my father is getting busy right now. It is a, it's a great, it's a great special it really. Did you record this?

That was in Detroit. Beautiful. Like I said, I love what you do. I love the fact that you're, you're so prolific and you know, that you built this whole thing just, just a hard work. So congratulations.

Appreciate you. I love you.