#2527 - MrBeast

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Well, I mean, yeah, I think how we give away millions of dollars. It's usually people are very excited about it. The only hard part for us is, you know, if it's a longer one, just the time off work. So, because sometimes we shoot like these games or stuff, you know, it can go for a month.

But besides the work stuff, of course. Are there people that haven't been able to do the show because they couldn't get a month off work? Oh, yeah, tons. So we always have like, even like the day before, you know, sometimes people get cold feet.

So if we're doing some with 100 people, we'll usually have 10 backups just because, you know, I would imagine that the type of person that would do your show would have a job that they could quit. Well, yeah, I mean, I guess it depends, right? Whether it's the YouTube channel where we're doing, you know, 100 families competing for $250,000 or it's BS games where they compete for $5 million. The 5 million people are way more excited for some of the, you know, the YouTube videos.

It's not as like grandiose. They're like, I don't know if I want to lose my job for 1% chance of winning 250K. Well, how many people, when you do BS games, how many people are competing? So the newest season we just shot, we grabbed one person from every country on Earth.

So it was around two people. Whoa. Yeah, which I was actually pretty cool because you would put them in these like crazy games and you'd see how someone from like the Asian Pacific countries would react versus like someone in South America. They play and think so differently because they have such different upbringing.

So that's really cool. Did you have to, I mean, you must have had to thoroughly vet these people, right? Make sure they're not insane. Yeah, honestly, we do the site and background checks, of course.

No. How do you get that information? If you're going, I mean, if you have, how many countries are there? First of all, it's 190.

We went off of whatever the Olympics do. So it's like 100 something around 200. Yeah. Plus a minus couple.

So some of them have to have some shitty infrastructure. Oh, I mean, I think one of them has literally 40,000 people living in it. What is it? Not the, uh, something sea islands, not the Cayman Islands, but some island country.

And yeah, I was like, wow, like my town, which has a hundred thousand people, is two and a half times the population of your country. I was joking with the contestant because I was like, if you win the $5 million, you could technically give a $200 dividend to every single person in your country. It's like, it's that crazy. It's that little people living there.

Wow. Yeah. That's the kind of country where you're like, I wonder if you could buy that country. Mm.

Yeah. I mean, the GDP is probably, you know, a couple hundred million dollars. Right. There's someone like Elon or something like that could buy that country.

There's probably thousands of people in America that could. I mean, I feel bad people from that country listening to us. We didn't say the country. Okay.

We didn't say it. Exactly. It's not yours. They should know what they are.

Yeah. They were, they're country of 40,000 people. That's just what it is. Nothing wrong with that.

But it's, uh, it is weird how many countries there are. And if you've got a person from every country, what are the odds you're going to get good data as to whether or not they're a criminal? Uh, well, that's why I mean, if you saw like our budgets on what I have to spend on cast those people, it was ridiculous to be able to get them off because basically what we did is we got multiple options for each country. And what I was worried about is that like the contestant from Blaine Country would suck.

And then the country would be like, Jimmy, you hate us and you purposely pick this, you know, absolute moron. So we would pick two or three from each country and then we let people from those countries vote on who should compete. Oh, smart. I had to get multiple from each.

So I think I ended up spending over a million dollars just on, you know, aggregating and casting and background checks and everything and then putting it out there so people could vote on it. But that way, you know, whatever, like Georgia and Europe, if that guy's an absolute moron, it's on them. They picked them. Right.

That's actually very smart. Exactly. How did you come up with the concept for the show? Like, first of all, how the fuck you have time to do that show as well as do your YouTube show?

Yeah. And then we're in those because like, B-Scans basically is 30 days of just, you know, 18 hours of day filming. And so for people who might not have heard of it, it's essentially the largest cash prize of any show in the world. It's the season when we had the most contestants of any show in the world and the largest sets of any show ever to exist.

And I was just like, what if you take like a reality show, but you just ramp everything up to the absolute maximum and like, season one we give away $22 million just in the season, right? And you know, some of the biggest game shows in the world right now give away $250,000. Like we're gonna wait $2 million every episode. Yeah.

That's wild. That's so crazy. That's amazing. And then we build a city and so also...

Holy shit. There's a lot of takeaways and like, after the show, they'll put people in a room and they'll be like, hey, talk about what happened here. And it's like inner cut. And I was like, what if we just have a thousand cameras and we just let people be themselves and we kind of just show it in real time?

So we also like, in season one, we broke the world record of most cameras ever used in any production of any movie show, anything ever. So like, this set right here, there's over 1200 cameras in there. And the most... That room was so big.

Yeah, it's bigger than the football field. And so there's a thousand contestants. We have to have an 8 cam on all of them. So there's like a pole on each of their platforms on them plus there's hundreds of cameras in in the roof and blah, blah.

which outside of this, the most ever use of production was 400. So I literally had to, and this might seem insane, but this is why I think the show appeals to quite a few people, because normally in a show, they would have a story producer walk up to you, hold a camera and be like, all right, you got three minutes, you're kind of the bad guy, say roughly long these lines, almost basically put words in your mouth, and then they'd go like, person to person with one camera, whereas I go on the microphone, I go, say whatever the hell you want, we're recording here for the next 10 hours, I don't care, and you all have a dedicated camera on you. So then instead of putting words in people's mouths, they can just do whatever they want. So do you have someone who actually has to go back and watch all that footage and edit it, yeah, season over 150 editors, we're done, yeah.

Oh, shit. And that's obviously why people don't do it, because it's like, basically we had to spend millions of dollars in cameras, it was the world record for most cameras we used, which then we also brought the world record for most camera cables used, because it's 27 miles of camera cables, both the world record for large control, and each of these millions of dollars, and you have to bring in millions of dollars of extra editors, and so, next thing you know, to take it from 10 cameras, where you just listen to put words in people's mouths to unlimited cameras, and they can do whatever you want, you can show who they actually are, as opposed to what you think they should be, right, with the story producer, it costs a lot of money, it's a lot of effort in time, for real space, if you're thinking about building a website, you should try Squarespace, I know because I use it, that's right, JoeRogan.com is powered by Squarespace, it has all the features that you need to create a stand out website, like an AI-enhanced website builder, SEO optimization tools, and seamless checkouts with mobile pay links, head to squarespace.com slash Rogan for a free trial, and when you are ready to launch, use the offer code Rogan to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats, hockey seasons here, and Uber Eats is delivering game day deals on favorites like wings, pizza, fries, and snacks, and you can order more than food, like gear to rep your team or fresh batteries for the remote. When your watch party gets hungry, or you just need anything, order in and keep everyone's attention on the ice, score great deals on Uber Eats all season long, because hockey is for the hungry, terms apply, product availability varies by region, see app for details.

You have a great ability to see the big picture, and a great ability to put together things regardless of what the budget is, like regardless of how much money you're gonna make to do the best product. I always thought about you when you were doing, when you first started doing your YouTube show, I'm like the amount of money and time and effort involved in this is like above and beyond what most people willing to do. And it's way more than a traditional television network or whatever it would do, because a traditional television network would look at the upside, they would look at the money, and they would go, we're gonna spend X amount of money to make it this much better, but if we just take it down a couple of notches, we save 80%, and they would do that, but you're like, can we make it even cooler? Let's put all the money back into the show, which is very risky, man, because not just very risky, it's just very, you have a great foresight, like you really see the big picture of it, obviously you have the number one show in the world, like you have the most watch show on Earth, you know, your YouTube show is the most watch show on planet Earth, so it's obviously working, but it's like that ability to make that set must have been bananas, that is fucking enormous building.

Did you have to build the building? No, so that's in Toronto, but it's basically an airport hanger, I mean we spent months trying to figure out how we could make this, that also is like a thousand trap doors, because every single one of those, the trap doors open when they get eliminated, so that set alone was like $15 million, I mean it was crazy. Thousands of people's time and stuff like that, it's actually, where we film these games, it's actually a pretty big deal, because it creates so many local jobs for people's. Oh, I'm sure.

Yeah, like there, it was like pretty wild, every time I'm- Can you say where you filming or you keep it on the rocks? That one was Toronto, Canada. Okay, cool. And every time I'd walk around and set people were loving it, because even though we filmed for 30 days, there's months leading up to it and months after.

Sure. It gives people like consistent work for six months, whereas like before they're going project to project every week, but yeah, back on the going above and beyond, that's kind of my whole thing is like, why make content that isn't great, and we just ask ourselves, how do we make the best content possible as opposed to how do we make the most money possible? And when you're just shockingly going with that approach, you just kind of make a lot of money. Yeah.

Well, and also it's, I told my team all the time too, like a big difference between us and other media companies is usually like people at the top will always shoot down crazy ideas or tell you it's not possible. Like whenever you have like these crazy brainstorming sessions, and I tell the team, technically anything's possible. If as humans we really wanted to, we could technically blow up the moon with enough nukes. Now we're not going to do it because it's not worth the time and it's not worth spending the money, but you have to have that frame of mind.

Everything's for the most part possible. If you're going to spend the time and spend the money. So before you do the work and just figure out what time it takes and how much money it costs, you can't say no to something. There's almost all the time, we filmed in the pyramids and I spent 100 hours living in the pyramids of Egypt.

It was fucking awesome. And for years, everyone's like, they're not going to let you live in the pyramids for a couple of days. That's crazy. And I'm like, why not?

Like, did you get a no from the leader of Egypt? No. Then I'm like, oh, technically it's possible. And after years of talking about them and helping them understand that, it's going to be more of an educational type video.

And it's not like, I'm not going to run up the pyramids and take my shirt off and be like a lunatic. It'll be really cool. Eventually they came around to it and they loved the video and it worked really well. And it's literally like, I could go anywhere in the pyramids for 100 hours.

I went all the way up to the top of the middle pyramid and we went underneath it. It was really cool. And I like tell my team, it's like, even some of my most veteran people, when we get these crazy ideas, their default reaction is to go, I just don't think it's possible. And I go, look, it is.

Sometimes it's just time and money, you know? And is it worth the effort? The pyramid one must've been nuts. Oh, it was crazy.

It was one of my favorite videos. Is that your first time ever being there? Actually, it was. And so that made it even more special because I was learning things at the same time as I was just walking around.

And I mean, honestly, it was like a year and a half ago and it's like all a little fuzzy because I was so tired I was just walking around all night. But it was pretty crazy. And so real, I mean, going down into, what's that tomb cold where you go down the ladder and like a couple hundred feet underneath the pyramid? I don't know.

Is that Osiris or something? Yes, Osiris. Yeah, and then it was like flooded and swimming around under there. It was pretty wild.

Wow. I feel like you should do something like that. 100%. I need to go there.

I've been talking about going there for years. I mean, it's just a time thing. My time is so many different jobs. It's not like one all consuming job like you have.

Me, it's like commentary for the UFC, doing standup comedy, doing the podcast and also married with children. So I have a lot of responsibilities. So it's tough to just jet off or really ideally if you're going to go to Egypt, I feel like you should go for like 10 days. Yeah, at least 10 days.

Do you think the, yeah, I feel like maybe honestly realistic like five days you could do it. And I'm curious though, if they let you just like do a video where you walk around and go everywhere because. I wonder. Yeah, you can.

I've talked a lot shit. Exactly. I'm without saying it. I don't even know.

I never said anything bad about it. But I just think that the people that run it have a very narrow minded perspective of how all that stuff was made. And I don't think, I don't think they really know. And I think there's a lot of gatekeeping in terms of what the official narrative is.

It's like how it was all made and who made it and what it's all about. That's why they're really hesitant to accept any alternative perspectives. Because they have a timeline and they attribute all this construction. And there's a lot of evidence that that timeline doesn't make any sense.

Yeah. Did you check out the Sphinx? Yeah, and you can go underneath it and go in that little room. Yeah, did you do that?

Yeah. I feel like it would mean even more. If you did, you've talked to Dr. Zahi.

Did you have him on the show? Yeah, I'm on the show. Yeah, OK, good. And so he's obviously the guy.

So you should just call him and see. Yeah, I'd rather go for somebody else. I didn't listen to that episode. I'd rather go hang out with one of the historians that I know.

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There would be some crazy stuff. Yeah, well, whatever happened in that part of the world during that time frame is pretty spectacular. It's kind of amazing that no one has ever achieved anything remotely similar to it since. Yeah.

And it's at least 4,500 years old. That's just a guess though. They really don't know. Yeah.

It's a crazy place. The fact that you got to film a show there is nuts. Yeah, I love how you call it a show. And to me it's just a YouTube video.

But it's just funny. It's a show. Yeah, I know, of course. And it makes sense because you do stuff at the UFC and you're old.

A lot of it's called shows. But I mean, whatever it is, people are watching it. I know. It's just funny.

It's to me. I haven't heard it called that in years. But yeah, that one was crazy. And I mean, one thing that I'm really proud of that we did basically the finale, where we have the $5 million.

You have the final contestants. We filmed it in the Roman Colesium. Whoa. Yeah, we crowned the winner of season three with the $5 million cash prize in the middle of the Roman Colesium.

Play the first game there in over a thousand years. Wow. Yeah. That's crazy.

No, I'm so grateful. I like we just filmed that too. So I'm like coming out the high. And I just like, it almost makes it like brings me tears.

Like what we shot was so cool. We had like a live orchestra at the top ring up there too. So like as the game got dramatic, we'd have them play louder music and stuff. It was like so surreal.

Like there's multiple because I've done really crazy things in my life. So there's multiple moments during that, where I'm just like looking around in the middle of the Colesium as we're like filming the show. And I'm like, this doesn't feel real. It was pretty wild.

It doesn't feel. I mean, I went just to visit a few years back and it didn't feel real. It's so strange to imagine like what that was like, you know, how many thousand years ago? What year were they doing the games in the Roman Colesium?

I would guess 1900 years ago. So I mean, what the fuck was it like being in there while it was happening? In a match? Imagine what they did.

And they didn't have the folks. Whoa. Crazy. This used to be a place where people was to go to see people die.

They see people get hacked to death by swords, to see people get killed by lions. Like what the fuck was it? Well, it's also interesting too because I did a lot of research before we filmed there. And it also did a good job of back then they had the hierarchy and the wolves people would sit at the bottom and the poor people would be at the top.

And it also played a good role of showcasing unity, even though there are all these different people from all these different economic statuses. They would all be in the arena there, but also remind them where they are. And there's so many political implications of it too. And so just everything about it.

Like basketball games. I didn't even think about that. I didn't even think about that. Jack Nicholson, court side tickets.

Yeah, court side tickets. Yeah, I mean, it's the same thing. I think in the Coliseum, though, that was the most dangerous seats. Because there was a couple of incidents, I believe, when either a lion or a tiger leapt up and got ahold of some people.

Yeah. Well, I didn't hear about that. But when I was walking around, they would have the emperor seat right there. And I was like, man, if I was the warrior, I could throw a spear at him.

Like this is a killer view about how did no one ever just kill this guy. That's all I could think about. It's like this is a little too close to the battlefield. How close is it?

It was like whatever, four rows up. It wasn't anything too crazy. But there's obviously walls when you're walking around. Little walls, you can't just walk into the sand.

So they're trapped in the arena. But it was definitely within spirit throwing distance. What I love it took to build that place. Because when you're walking around, this is an epic piece of real estate.

You got built an insane structure. And they did it almost 2,000 years ago, or whatever it was. So it took eight years to build from AD 7 to AD AD. Wow.

Construction started under Vespasian between AD 70 and 72. It was completed and inaugurated under Emperor Titus around AD 79 to AD. So the main build phase lasted roughly six to eight years. The cup is down to its final matches.

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I'm like, that's such a beautiful massive stadium. I wonder if like 2000 years from now would that still be there? Right. Like Roman fall seems like relatively still attacked.

It's pretty crazy. That's what's great. Well, it's because it's made out of stone. All of our stuff like cement will rot out.

There's no way cement lasts 1000 years. All the glass, all the everything will just get absorbed back into the earth. Dang. Do you ever see that show?

They had a show like, what was it on the history channel or something like that where it was after humans, I think it was called? And it essentially showed how long it would take for cities to completely be absorbed back into the earth? It's not that long. Yeah.

It's not that long. No, it's like a few hundred years. So it was probably like shitty AI. It was shitty CGI.

They could probably do it really good now. Yeah. But I mean, if you go to Detroit, there's houses in Detroit now that have trees growing out of the basement of the house through the roof. Yeah.

Like they've taken over the house and nature is slowly, but surely absorbing the building. And then skyscrapers are a bigger endeavor, but nature could still do it. It just takes enough time. That makes me where my brand goes through.

So it makes me want to do a video where it's like, I bet you there's like a abandoned village or city that's been overgrown and like doing a video titled like Last Human on Earth Simulation and then like living there for a month or so and seeing what it's like. That kind of cool. Kind of like the Will Smith movie back in the day. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. That'd be so fascinating. Or maybe do it like with a contestant.

Like, hey, if you spend one month in this isolated civilization, I'll give you a million dollars or something and then see how they use 100-year-old buildings or something. I don't know. It's got my brain churning. It's not a bad idea.

I am legend type deal. Yeah, but real unscripted, exactly. Right. Real unscripted, but then also higher people to be zombies and homeless people.

I love what you're doing. That brain goes. Yeah. I can make some real zombies, but the problem is how do they kill them and then?

Well, the other problem is what happens if you're not telling these contestants that zombies are trying to get a reaction out of them? This guy thinks it's a real zombie and kills one of the people. Yeah. Well, I would tell him I would have to say this is a zombie simulation.

And then I'd have to set rules on here. So you kill a zombie. You don't use a sword. You use this film.

And it's lame, which is why we never gone around to it. But if there ever was a way, I do think that would be cool to recreate actual zombie apocalypse and let someone try to live in for a week. Because it'd just be cool. Because everyone's exposure to this is through scripted shows.

But does he someone truly live in an unscripted one where we build rundown gas stations? And there's like food that we would say this is set in the year 2060. So I'd have set designers and everything. Design it where it's like only Laffy Taffy still edible and stuff.

And it's like a true recreation of it. I've always wanted to do stuff like that. You could totally do that. There's a bunch of abandoned towns.

No, it's just that one thing we can never figure out is how does someone kill a zombie and it's not lame. Because it matters what the Nerf sword hidden a zombie. Now it's like, OK, this is a fucking lame. Yeah.

I've got a paintball type deal. Yeah. That's where our head goes because we're we have a different video, a similar thing. But the problem with paintball and airsoft is then you have to wear a mask, right?

But people get shot in the face, obviously. And then it kind of kills it. Or yeah, unless the zombie masks were the protection. Yeah, we put it over top of the people mask.

That's four actors. They're going to throw it off. Or you just have instead of a regular paintball mask, have something that's just a hard structure that is like the shape of your face. Exactly.

You make it a four-fifths to your face. And then you give them goggles, something clear. So their eyes are protected. And then you do all the makeup on top of it.

You don't have to hit you well for these zombie things. That actually would work there. Yeah, exactly that. Yeah, that's perfect.

That's an airsoft mask. That'd be pretty cool. I mean, dude, that's actually dope. Look at those masks, the half-faced zombie ones.

Yeah. That's fucking dope. Like, you could, that would be terrifying. Coming out you in the middle of the night.

Hey, if anyone's listening once they live in an abandoned town for 10 days, I'll zombie try to kill you. I think we're on to something now. Now that I saw those masks, I'm like, OK, I like it. Because that could be the zombies.

Well, where my head goes, because the videos are so big, right? This is probably a $5 million project. It probably would build this abandoned city. Dude, I'm the last man on the planet.

And it's like me there for some time. And then afterwards, like a couple of months, like film then right after some of the video where I give someone $1 million they live there for 10 days, but they have to fend off zombies with their friends. And then we reuse this location, because I'm going to completely set back a whole city. Oh my gosh, that's going to be a monster.

But yeah, if I did both of those back to back, that'd actually be pretty gnarly and worthy of it. I think I like the idea now, now that I see those masks. And I think about like paintball or something along those lines. Well, what I'm picturing too is like, I dearly can find a city with a skyscraper, because I went like someone with a long lens pointed down.

If someone pictured them on a street, it's pitch black, and they have a fire, and it's them and their three friends. And then they hear noise and zombies and stuff. Like, those shots would be so beautiful. I mean, it would probably be one of the most beautiful videos ever.

And I'm picturing to be put like vines, like on all the buildings and stuff too. Well, if you wanted no one around, it's going to be hard, because you're going to have to do it in an abandoned place. Exactly. And you're not going to get an abandoned skyscraper.

Maybe. So let's go to Detroit. Well, we also, it doesn't have to be in the US. We did a video seven days in abandoned city where there's like, some place in Europe where there was a city that was like war torn and stuff like that.

And it had like hotels and tall buildings and everything. It was pretty wild. So really? Yeah.

And there's no one in it? No. No one in it. Like tourists go there.

But they let us close it off for a week. It was pretty great. Well, that's the place then. Yeah, I just wondered, they'll, you know, it's a little bit history.

They're like, I doubt they'll let me go in and like, step deck everything like crazy. But and also paintball everything. Exactly. Yeah.

Well, with those masks, we could do airsoft, which would be maybe even easier. Well, actually, no, the problem with airsoft then is the trust is when you don't know if they got hit. So paintball is probably more. Yeah, you need paintball.

Yeah. You need paintball. And it needs to look good when it splatters against them. Just, you know, someone on my team is watching this.

Just clip the last 10 minutes of this and send it to the creative team. I got you guys, I believe in you. Is there another way to kill a zombie other than paintball that would be wild? Like, is there something else?

Well, one thing we've been working on, because I've always wanted to like do Hunger Games in real life as well. So like these like suits where you could, you know, electronic like a laser tag where you could just shoot and then it just like lights up. So what about shotguns with beanbags? You know, because they use those for people to like take out like when they're non-lethal loads, you know, they have like beanbags that they shoot out of a shot.

The question I would need is like, if I shot you with it like three feet away, would you still be fine? I guess you could probably adjust the pressure and stuff where it's not. Not really. Okay.

Well, you couldn't bury it. So this is a fear factor. This is Mr. V.

I understand. It's a great line. You know, it's so funny. I need to give you a blood and let you just help me cook on this video.

I can see this. There's something there. You just have to figure out an exciting way to kill them where it doesn't actually hurt the stunt people or whoever's wearing the masks, whoever pretends to be a zombie. It would have to be something, I was thinking light them on fire, but that's...

Could you pull up the seven days of Bandit City video and just give to a some brand apart? I'd love from to see like how it looks because that with what you're picturing, and that really would be something you can't find anywhere else. That's when like gets me excited is when it's content you can't find anywhere else. That's typically a huge indicator that if it's done well, people like it.

Have you seen the show from? From. I don't think so. It's great.

Great show. But it's about the show. Look at that shot. Posit.

Right there. Like or so that's just one random building, but you can maybe go to the intro or something if you want to just show them like, yeah, this whole place. Like look at these buildings. Oh my God, this is perfect.

Yeah. And then like, yeah, if you pause it there, those are all the buildings in the city of... Oh dude, this is the spot. Listen, the show starts at sundown every night.

Okay. When the sun goes down, that's when the game's begin. Nothing happens until it gets dark out. Everything is in the dark.

And these people have no idea when it's going to happen, when they're going to get hit. And so they try to get their sleep whenever they can. But you keep them awake during the day with tasks. You keep them away.

So during the day, they have all sorts of materials. They have supplies. They have all sorts of things. And they have to figure out how to protect themselves, how to develop shelter, alarm systems for when the zombies are closed.

Oh really? Yeah. Give them time to like figure out stuff to do to keep the zombies away and eliminate amount of materials that they can work with and just let these people get creative in their ingenuity but then you keep it so that they'll be busy during the day. So they're not going to be able to sleep.

So at nighttime when it gets dark out, then they don't know when it's going to hit. So you have these people sitting around and it might be 7pm, 8pm, 9pm and then 3 in the morning should start happening. The zombies come in and they got a shoot-in wall painful. And they're creeping in.

Like they're creeping in. Bro, you're getting me excited. It would be so fucking cool to like let them build a structure or something. And then like an eye legend where you have to point the lights because they hate lights.

But like at nighttime, like they'll have to, we can hide lights throughout the city that they have to collect and then set up. So they have good vision around their forward and everything. And then they have cycles where they take turns watching and stuff. And then we only send the zombies out theoretically at night or whatever the structure would be.

So they have chill time or maybe every night 40 zombies are leashed. And then so they're like, they shot like 35 of them. But they're like, oh shit, there's 5 in around the city. So that day while they're walking around they're like on edge and the tension throughout the day would be phenomenal.

Yeah. There's so many cool ways to do it. And you don't have to tell them that the zombies are only going to come out at night. Just have it that way.

I'm excited. We need to stop talking about this because I'm going to leave and go filming right now. I'm fighting the urge to go call my team. You also with the zombies, they can come out in the daytime.

So these people don't know because they never do it. True. Like the three five days. Exactly.

So some people get snatched up in the middle of their house. We used before as a gel blaster. It's almost like airsoft, but it doesn't hurt as bad. It shoots water in these vests that they have set up our sensors so you can almost like what you're saying.

It's like VR laser tag. So lights up when you hit it. Yeah. And there's like a little talking system that says like you have this many shots left.

We see a video. Yeah. We did this at night at somebody's house. Oh, you did?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. No, I have seen like nerve gel blasters. I actually never thought of that.

So that I mean, you could just redo the suits. Yeah. And then rescan the guns because it's like a little lame. But yeah, that would be it's kind of like a shock guns with the guys.

I think I easily picture the aesthetic you're looking for. I got to find the blim between Joe's like recreation of this video and like what I could actually do. But they're I actually more inspired than ever. I think it's very doable.

It's very doable. You just have to figure out a way to make it exciting but still not hurt anybody. Exactly. You know, that's not hurt the zombies.

You'd have to like arm this people up somehow. I mean, well, the thing too is like, you know, one way one thing that would help is like if the typical Hollywood actors and things like that, which I've learned for like some of these other things like it's also who you cast it. Like, you know, the Navy if it was like Navy seals dressed up as zombies and I paid them well, you know, they wouldn't care. But also it could well, it could be like a zombie army like an army.

Some some army somewhere got taken over and turned into zombies. Yeah. And those are the people you're fighting against. So you could you could put them with like plate carriers on and you know, you could armor them up a little bit so they could take some hits have some lore behind it.

Yeah. It would make sense too. I'm I'm so I just got to find an abandoned city. Give them glowing eyes.

That's the only way, you know, that I was gonna be don't help me figure out to do zombies. Dude, it would be fucking terrifying. Imagine these people that are in like this city. There's no lights.

There's no electricity. And then at nighttime it goes dark and maybe they have flashlights, but each flashlight only has like one hour of battery life. And so you have to like judiciously use that flashlight throughout the evening. Sign it around.

You know, so you give like a little extra tension and the flashlight's gonna die because you only have one hour of flashlight battery. Yeah. And then you see these red eyes like you give them like a slightly glowing red eye. Yeah.

And that's how you can find the zombie. True. And then just look out into the woods. Yeah.

You can see the fucking eyes, man. You see the eyes. That would be crazy. Yeah.

And the other thing too would be because I go to like how do we execute it? We could do it too where like there's like every day like a certain period we pull off all the dead zombies which are humans and we just swap them with like I can have recreated versions of them there. So there's like actual zombie bodies like piling up. Right.

So as we go progresses, they're like literally snapping over like mannequins that are stepped out identically how the people were. So when they die and then they're just like literally snapping on zombies as they go building a building that would be crazy. That would be crazy. You know, and actually because if I put a million more.

Anybody chalk outlines around the zombies. You can identify the fact that this was a dead zombie. Or no, don't. You know, let that be the fun part.

But then we if we put like a crazy prize on it, we could do you only get the prize or maybe the prize is split amongst everyone who survives the whole 10 days or whatever. And then it's like to really build up like this Christian at the end. We could have it where the final day there's a massive invasion coming or something. So it's like the whole time.

It's like every day more and more camps of day one is 10 day two is 20 and then 50 and then I'm like, you know, we're gonna have 400 zombies come on the final day. So the whole video they're prepping for this like game of thrones type invasion. Not only that, but the people that get killed by the zombie, we think they're out of the game, but they actually become zombies. So when you think you won at the end, now the final game is you're competing against the zombies.

The zombies who can't win because they're already dead, but they make you lose. Yeah. And they know you're for it. You know, actually even crazers, if instead of, well, you know, maybe we have Navy SEALs as a zombies, but also what if the contestants are like ex Navy SEALs too?

So they have like strategy and that would be cool. Just get the most badass people that you can get for this zombie thing like survivalists, martial artists like, yeah, crazy, dude. That's not bad. Like a UFC champion Navy SEAL like a Taekwondo bubble.

And it's like, all right, what happens if you put six experts in different fields together and simulate a real zombie apocalypse? You have 50 acres of this abandoned city sealed off. We stacked decked it all and every day a wave of zombie that gets bigger and bigger until the big Christian at the end hits. And you can survive it all.

You split a million dollars. I think the really difficult challenge is figuring out a way to kill zombies is not lame. Exactly. And doesn't hurt anybody.

Actually doesn't kill people. I don't know. That's your second thought. But of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, because if you're hitting them, even with the gels off it look kind of cool, but it's like, pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew.

No, it's got to be bang. But I can add those sounds opposed, but we're big fans of practical. So I'd have my team take apart the guns and see if there's somebody that can make it, even though it's shooting the gel, like make it bang bang and then add like the bags and we'd have to re-skin the guns to look like real guns and it would have to be some. It doesn't have to look like real guns because it could look be a gun from the future.

Yeah, but that's lame. What do you think of zombie apocalypse? You think it has to look like a gun that they grabbed from some dude to say that they found in a house, right? That's what a zombie apocalypse is to me.

Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. So we'd have to look like a real gun.

So that's why I like the shotguns with the bean bags and also with a shotgun, like you're only going to get so many shells. Like, you like as long as you don't have one of those big like tarantactical ones that has actually a magazine, you can hold like 15 rounds. You can, I think a regular shot, like a Benelli. What can you put?

How many shells can you put in one of those? I think six. I think maybe six. Something like that is good too.

You have a limited amount of bullets and reloading is hard. We just got to find out like maybe if it was like 20 gauge, maybe it was like 20 gauge shotgun, like bird shot with, with a bean bag. Yeah, it wouldn't fuck people up, but it would make a big bang and you'd be hitting them. And if you could find a way to light up wherever they got hit, like if you could put them in some sort of a suit where when they get hit, there's like gel packs.

I know where you can see shotguns at people. Yeah, there's this not possible. You're so wrong. I've been here, like, you live in Ethiopia.

I've seen his eyes light up like this in years. No, no, no, no, no. I feel like I got that person. Okay, I don't know a lot about shotgun.

So let's find out. We're going to have someone point a real shotgun at someone else, but yeah, you will trust me. We're going to work this out. You want to help?

I'm going to help. Yeah. I'm going to do a shotgun damage on a zombie. You have to blow their head off, right?

Oh, God. No, this is the question. We're going to talk about hit damage for 20 minutes. Well, it depends on what kind of zombie.

Like walking dead zombies are so stupid you can stab them in the head with a pencil and they die. Remember it was just going through the head because they would shoot them with those crossbows. And like, crossbow wouldn't even kill a person. Like, with those field tips, they're using field tips.

This is basically like a pencil going through you. It's not like a broad head. Like, if you shot an animal with a crossbow, you would use a broad head, which is a big sharp blade that cuts a giant channel through an animal. What those things are using is target points.

Like, that dude in walking dead? We'd drive me nuts because he would shoot him in hand. We'd just stick in their head and then they'd be dead. It's so funny because I just watched the same thing and I'm like, oh, that's cool.

Different audience. Well, it's just all it takes is like one arrow to go into your head if you're a zombie. Yeah, totally. One arrow.

This is nonsense. Yeah, right guys. One arrow in the head. You want to die.

The thing is people have lived, humans have lived through arrows through the head like that accidentally got shot in the head with a bow and arrow and with a field tip and lived because it basically just, it's like a pencil going through your head. Really? The way people die from an arrow is hemorrhage. You die from massive hemorrhage.

It's usually because there's a blade. Like this. Like this is what the Native Americans used to use. But that's what?

Yes. That's an actual arrow head. But the thing about this is when it's attached to a stick, this is cutting. So it's causing hemorrhage inside the body.

The little field tip doesn't do that. And the field tip wouldn't puncture enough veins where you just bleed to death? Maybe. But most likely not.

I mean, if it went through your heart, yeah, you'd be dead. But if it just goes through like this side of your lungs and pokes out your back, you'll live. Wow. Yeah.

Would you want to live? You would be in pain. It would suck. It would certainly suck.

But it's not like getting hit with a broad head. It would be a level of shotgun. What is the lowest powered shotgun available? I know 20 gauge is light.

I've used those before for shooting clay pigeons. And I've used 12 gauges. You don't want to get hit with a 12 gauge, even if it's a bean bag. Oh, here we go.

Now we're talking. That's a bitch ass round. Oh, God. Let's see what that looks like.

Shoot up. Let's see what a 410 gauge shotgun or 67 gauge shotgun looks like when they shoot. No, no, no, no, no, you'll be fine. Okay.

Yeah, just give me a plate carrier and if you're going to use a bean bag, yeah. Because that's what I'm thinking. Like if you have a chest plate, you know, so a plate carrier is bulletproof. Yeah, but what are you going to hit?

Everything you'll cover up. You'll cover up the shoulders and the arms. You give them like military style armor, like body armor. Because it's not, it's not, this is going to penetrate.

So if it's a bean bag round, what it is is just like, it's basically a bag that's going to like shoot out of the shotgun and blast you. But I don't, they're not lethal. Let me see what it looks like. I don't know what you want to do.

Just go to a video of lowest powered shotgun. That's not exactly what it is. Yeah, that's dope. I've never seen one of those before.

It says interesting. Yeah, the smallest but deadly is shot. Yeah, I think it's smallest in terms of like the size of it, not, uh, not the round itself. Yeah, this isn't, I did ask for lowest powered, but it's, that's not what people want to click on video.