#2563 - Dan Richards

The Joe Rogan experience So right off of that you hand me this Smithsonian pamphlet it's like a very small book on Peruvian elongated skulls including like diagrams. Yeah, they're not Peruvian These are from the Pacific Northwest from Washington This is one of the things where I wanted to really bring up to you the majority of the elongated schools in recorded history are from Washington State Well, yeah, now are these manipulated? Yes, sir. Yes, sir They were manipulated by people as a matter of fact when Lewis and Clark reached the the Columbia River They passed the Cascade Mountains all of the Native Americans west of the Cascades had artificially modified schools Look at the title of the book the Chinook sign of freedom if you didn't have an artificially modified school you were slave Whoa the Chinook sign of freedom a study that skulls the famous chief.

How do you say his name? Concomly and he was he was he met with Lewis and Clark during the During their expedition and he was as famous as Sakajuya was a hundred years ago, but he's just disappeared He had artificially long-gated school a bunch of images talk about he attributed his intellect to his artificially long-gated school What yeah, they believed you know though. They don't they did it when you're a baby exactly But that's what they all believe and there is actually something to this is one of the things that's really interesting that I've stumbled on is You know in the end or if you look at the difference between in the Andrew's all brain case and a human brain case It's a huge difference. I have an image if you don't mind.

You can throw it up if you don't care But it's all in the back It's like there's a thing called Chiari malformation type one where the base your cerebellum falls into your spinal cord It causes migraines and all kinds of stuff and scientists now are saying that it probably came from us and the end of all brain case School not quite fitting. Mm-hmm And if you think about actually makes a lot of sense, right? I mean the end of the school is way wide in the back and that's where all of your your motor skills You're smelling you're seeing you're hearing. Yeah, they were more primitive They're probably super athletes and that the real the weird question is like where they smart and how smart where they like their frontal lobe is not as big as ours Correct, correct And that's where all the thought processing and decision-making comes from so they probably had insane athletic ability Oh, yeah, absolutely and motor skills and visual ability the visual abilities important because look at the size of their eye sockets Now imagine if you wanted the best of both worlds So you were you were breeding these two species together look at the jaw on that motherfucker imagine trying to knock back I don't forget about it.

They'll go they had chest like barrels to right They all look like you do naturally don't have to lift they just they just that way I look a lot more impressive than me well the guy on the left he looked like me naturally Remember that one I think it's just nonsense But there's just one guy who proposed the idea of Neanderthals being like guerrilla looking like super predators And he thought that the eyes were bigger so they could see at night and he had like this crazy It was very you know, sorry, right right right very sensationalist nonsense and the genetic evidence is what you know that guy Yes, fucking dope though Seeing the dark, you know like primate lives in the woods and was like infinitely stronger than us Like it just rip our arms right like gorilla strong and but not smart enough to get like hey man Can you please? Oddly enough has a skull that has a large capacity than us and so then we have to think okay is it just motor skills? Like do we what do we know about the brains of dolphins? Well, we know that they're the brain capacity.

It's quite a bit larger like there I think their core their cerebral cortex. I think it's like 40% larger than a person's yeah So like like that so what is that like what's going on with them? Like how are they so much more intelligent than us? But they just can't manipulate their environment so we ignore it well that could be it also could be a degree of chemistry That they can't you know, I mean you can't do fire and underwater really so you're right of stuff with your technological stuff There's no manipulation right so all of their intellect must go into other areas and hunting and then you find out how horrible they are to each other Yeah, I mean like in Fantresside, you know like dolphins female dolphins are very promiscuous And the reason why they're promiscuous is because if the male doesn't know if the cubs are his or not if he thinks they might be his He's not gonna kill the cubs, but if a female has cubs the male will kill the cubs so the female will breed again It's like hey, I thought you guys were like the super peaceful fucking smart ones like I like us We're killing babies of the women will breed.

Oh, I but it gets close chimpanzees do it. Do they do that? Do that kind of stuff bears do that. Yeah, it's bears do two things They think they think one they eat cubs to force the female into breeding again, but two they think they just do it for food Dark that's yeah, that's a racking levels of dark I know it's dark always and bears are all cannibals and this is the thing about people in the emperor for more Is that the word I was I want to say pro but it's po right Anthropomorph and throw poem.

Yeah, I think you're right. Um, whatever it is people Humanizing animals the weirdest one I think is bears and like you can train bears There's bears in the circus you like they're an interesting animal But in the wild they are some of the fucking most brutal and ruthless creatures They're it's basically almost like a giant wild dog, you know, and they tear things apart and they eat things while they're still alive They're fucking they don't care. They're fucking horrible. They're horrible to each other They go into dens and pull out cubs and eat them.

I mean, I Yeah, yeah different different set of morality I guess you could say or lack thereof, but yeah, I'm glad I'm not a bear cuz I'd probably have been eating as a cub Or you're gonna hit my car or even hit that car We caught in a trap and trained to be a dancing ballerina bear or some shit stand on the ball the the ancient humans though To me are like I feel like this is it this is a an emerging topic even though we've known about Neanderthals were so long now That they know about Denisovans now that they know about homo floreian how you say that? For instances yeah, I got one pronunciation island of flores man the the hobby people now that they know okay We've got two very distinct human beings that lived with humans that aren't homo sapiens and the Denisovans ones one It's fucking super weird. They're big. They were taller than us This episode is brought to you by square space if you're thinking about building a website you should try square space I know because I use it.

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You see that's 2023 And there's this is huge I saw your video on this where you talked about there's one family in Brazil that has Like most of their family members have six fingers and six toes and they say it helps them of course of course I can grab the ball better. Yeah, that's your string right imagine guitar extra finger That's not me even a lovely dude and seduce a woman when you got an extra finger good luck Chicks don't have kids with guy was fucking six fingers. I'm some freak kid That's the South America they actually honored that stuff of course they honored they honored genetic deformations I honestly believe that they were actively breeding different bloodlines together in South America that baby It's got five fingers on a thumb. That's crazy.

I Mean the thing is they look absolutely normal in every other way except the fact that they have five fingers instead of four Like it would take you a few seconds It's almost like you're living in the matrix and this is like an AI glitch You know like AI glitches they would have people that have like additional appendages like a weird elbow growing off your elbow I think it's just glitch to clap walk. Yeah. Yeah, yeah I like you would take you a while before you really can I do you were high and you went over this lady's house you saw her playing piano And you're like wait a minute. Why is there so many noises?

So many fingers wait, but you have extra fingers like this dude had You must be a motherfucker of a goalie. Oh, of course, right? It's the greatest hand skill for goalies More space you cover it up But I think only better if you teach about a punch you have a whole nother finger that like the width of the hands It'd be greater the weight of the hands be greater the guitar players say it's not the extra finger as much as it is the extra stretch The extra reach that lets them mmm. Oh, that makes sense.

That makes sense. Especially like long fingers All the guitar still made for a five-fingered player, right? Right. So you're yeah, it's not we can figure out how to do it Oh, yeah, look what hindering.

I'm just putting the same thing on the outside. I don't play that left-handed I guess devia re-von local hero, right? Yeah turn that thing It's you seem to live at elma conber one where he takes his like fifteen thousand dollar Stratocaster stands on the horns And he's rocking the deck back and forth. Whoa pops the string just watch a pick back on you can't just go Wow, it's not a toy.

It's not an instrument. It's a damn toy. It's a tool. Yeah.

Anyway, I got you about that guy for a bit I like Stevie's pretty good We have posters of photos of him from when he was on stage at the club way before we owned it. Oh, really? Yeah, he was on that stage in like the 80s. Oh, I think I think the pictures from 83 Yeah, I popped into Antones a couple of times to just just smell the air.

Yeah, Antones is dope. That's a great place I've seen Gary before Gary Clark Jr. perform there a few times. That's fucking sick I haven't got to watch a show there every time I'm in town.

It was up to no good, but I'm not to catch a show They're always nice. Yeah, we did it and everybody got covid the whole crew everyone backstage got covid It's one of their guys one of their guys one of their guys had covid after the show It was like during the whole during the full lockdown and they had a concert I was like I can't believe we're at a concert and then we went backstage or hanging out in the green room and then everybody got covid Oh, fuck. I'm not a fan. Yeah, except me.

I didn't get it. Oh, that's because you were you know, it's funny It's I was something that I wanted to talk about in this anyway So what may as well get into it now is the code thing You know, they weaponized scientific literacy when they said trust the science on the jab That's I there's a lot of things we're talking about but the whole war on science like I keep calling I get called a science denier a lot Fuck that I'm a science gatekeeper. You don't get to call it scientific science. You stop at the door Science is a method.

It's a it's a way we get somewhere. It's not the end result Carl Sagan said science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of thinking away It's keptically interrogating the universe you average time for a peer review for a test on a vaccine is about 10 years You crank it out in a year and a half. You haven't followed the proper fucking steps.

You haven't done science I'm not a science denier. I'm not just do it right and come back. Right. It's not a coincidence.

There was so much money involved We're not stupid. No, we know why it wasn't done because there was no other methods to treat this disease. That's ridiculous It's not true. Well, that's why they got so mad at me But that's why I was gonna go with your doctor They would say through your personal physicians under the bus and I don't know anything about that except for that I can't extrapolate I can guess and say that the guy that your personal physicians probably wants to keep that job Probably doesn't want to see you croak from COVID.

I mean, I mean I could be wrong, but you know, it seemed really just ridiculous It was like oh, they just push it a bunch of pseudoscience bullshit That you could look at it that way and you know everyone was scared and it's not their fault that they you know They were presented with this pandemic that caused people a lot of anxiety What was shocking to me was how few people were willing to say what did that guy do instead of saying? Oh my god, you're anti science you're promoting vaccine hesitancy. You didn't get vaccinated and you survived COVID and you're telling everybody how you did it This is anti science like but it happened Instead of you were using a horse dewormer, right? That was completely insane Yeah, that's just proof of propaganda But even without that proof of propaganda you also have this thing like if we are all trying to get through something and you see someone Who is a very public person?

I'm online all the time. I have millions of subscribers, right? So I'm very scrutinized on it and everyone knows that I work out all the time Everyone knows I take vitamins I talk about it all the time cold plunges and fucking hyperbaric chambers and all this different shit Why wouldn't they say oh? Apparently if you're really healthy and you do these things and for maybe whatever reason you can't get vaccinated this works, too There was never even a consideration, right?

Even even let's assume the vaccine worked with it which didn't like which which assumed that it prevented infection which it didn't prevent the transmission Which it didn't and didn't have any side effects which is certainly not true So let's just let's pretend it did even then you have people that are allergic to some of the ingredients in the vaccine, right? Aaron Rogers was one of them and so if you tell those people hey I understand that this medicine that works you can't take but here is a guy who did something different and was fine Like this is okay, too. So they shut all that down demonetized people shows channels down if you it was bad It was interesting it was interesting It's you know It's funny watching it from hindsight because we can look at it now and see where you know Everything's kind of settled afterwards to a degree But even still like like for example the Fauci hearings nobody who was a big supporter of his and I know personally knew about that until I told him about it It was like it just didn't show up in their fucking radar They don't want to know about it. Of course.

I mean nobody wants to think that they were completely wrong about that You know and that was one of the things they did whip everybody up into a fury Yeah, look when you were wrong about something you guys say well, I was wrong about that for sure That's really honestly part and parcel not just to being an honest person But like especially if you're in science, um, yes, you know like your boy your favorite Archaeologist who's not a scientist that flint dibble guy He recently did a thing where he was making fun of me and he's like pulls up this thing talking about Easter Island and hell Easter islands earliest habitable layer has food stuff from South America and Asia So like as far back as people were hitting Easter Island that we're aware of they were hitting both of these continents a thousand years ago So I've mentioned this flint clip says like this is bullshit. This Dan's confidently wrong He's fully shit five minutes later in this live stream. He catches it that is accurate Well, actually there is evidence of contact between the two but he never mentions that it was on Easter out. He Saves his face rather than I mean, that's not like a big surprise thing But the point is is that if you're this episode is brought to you by armor every week There's some new wellness hack that people swear by and after a while you start thinking Why do we think we can just outsmart our bodies?

That's why armor colostrum caught my attention It's something the body already recognizes and has hundreds of these specialized nutrients for gut stuff immunity metabolism, etc I first noticed it working around training, especially workout recovery most stuff all's off But I am still taking this if you want to try armor is offering my listeners 30% off plus two free gifts go to armor.com slash rogan This is what I also think I think there's all this personal stuff that goes on with these people that is so completely unnecessary And I think the only reason why archaeologists get dismissed by these whatever you would call yourself Yeah amateur interest in amateurs interested amateurs in all things life and looking at these looking at the data I'm looking at the science of it and you're really good at it. Well, thank you. I appreciate that That should be an asset That's all that should be that should be an asset to the archaeologists and if you think they're wrong about something you should talk to them Now I think when he had that conversation with Graham, I think that's the right way to do it I don't think necessarily he did it in good faith And I think he wanted to you know push a certain narrative and one of the narratives was The thing that distorts disturb you the most is he was trying to label Graham as racist for proposing these theories that there's an advanced civilization that existed before the one that we currently see Yeah, I don't think that's it can be racist. It's human beings It's not just human beings it's human beings specifically that live in the very area where those human beings live So it's their ancestors so the ancestors of Africans are the ones who built the pyramids, right?

Whoever the fuck they were Whether whether they were the people of 2500 BC or whether it was even earlier than that whatever it was it was a people It's the same people this is crazy. Well, the whole thing is this is what's really Atlantis well, they say you assume that Atlanteans were white ergo It's only the brown people buildings that you ask questions about you're not asking questions about the Colosseum It's like okay. Well, the Colosseum has written records So I know why the Colosseum was built when it was built in Parthenon on same thing But you know what I don't know about it was built by white people supposedly Balbeck, Balbeck was supposedly built by Romans. We're all doing it there too.

It has nothing to do with color It has everything to do with written records. They ignore this one of my favorite things to throw out in with that has no written records of the Not of the trilogy of a big stuff. Yeah, and how do you not write that down? Everything the Romans wrote everything down that scribes their job was to document everything.

They were very concentrated on history Yeah, yeah, we went off about this with me and Jimmy Corsetti were here. Yes, but talking about like the Roman foot Well, if Jimmy's right Atlantis was in sub-Saharan Africa. It's Africans Well, I think honestly that I think Atlantis is kind of a catch-all term for a lost civilization that was globe-spanning Yeah, and like they would call us 10,000 years from now They would just one plus in with the damn French and call us the electronic civilization and with the exception of GSP I don't want to be associated with a damn French. Oh I love Montreal GSP is gonna be at that event.

Oh is he yes, he's the best. I love that he's doing a podcast He's a very fascinated guy He's fascinated and curious about so many things and he's kind and he's open-minded and he's really intelligent He is so odd like when people meet him and I go Do you know who that is and they go no? She's a really nice guy like that is one of the greatest cage fighters that ever lives like no way I go one of the all-time greats if not the all-time great I think John Jones all-time great But I think he's in the conversation like George is in the conversation of one of the greatest that's ever done it Meanwhile, he's the sweetest nicest guy dude I made a comment once to one Instagram where he was like doing his leg workouts And I was like my legs will never look like that because I'm sitting on a computer all day smoking weed and reading I think I trade my legs for your brain any day and I'm just Well everybody wants what they don't have you know he's gonna have me on his pod here on the 17th too Oh cool. She's gonna be here the 16th or 18th of that thing.

Yeah, tell everybody this thing. You're doing Here are the quest range of civilizations conference October 16th or 18th at the ACLU live here in Austin, Texas It'd be me Randall Carlson Base for just had him on here bass 4j and a few other guys. Yeah, this thing is a bunch of AI generated homage dude in the middle there Look at all this pseudoscience on one picture. I love it.

Oh, man. Yeah Oh, yeah, it's like dunking it all it's like dunking on TRT But curtain a don't gonna be the other mystery boys those guys will be those guys are always here Randall Carlson is a rap song out now. Yes. Yes, I'm not Randall.

I'm sorry Billy Randall's a rap song when we were in so don't Arizona you're here We're sharing Airbnb and he was he wrote it like a late 80s. He was spitting bars at me over breakfast I was just going god fucking damn this was not a my bingo car whoa, Randall Carlson rapping at me for breakfast Carlson is a hip-hop head from a late 80s Carlson hip-hop please ask our AI sponsor perplexing what Randall Carlson's history in hip-hop is Don't be watching fucking Santa Claus spit bars like that. I'm telling you man I was I was still drinking coffee in the north of my morning bowl and I was like well, holy shit Yeah, it's the real world. Yeah crazy, but yeah, that's gonna be a fun thing GSP is gonna be there now that he just got officially 100% confirmed about an hour ago.

That's fantastic But yeah, that's gonna be a lot of fun But I would be talking about it's available for that you can get online. Yeah tickets are available You can get them online the quest range of civilization things some quest range of civilizations if you go to my YouTube Don't be stuff on there. Yeah, you live for quest for ancient civilizations. You will have no trouble find out So this conference available online people can get tickets looks like a dope lineup and it's all the stuff that I love to talk about So yeah, I just I jokingly called it the Rogan Trinity when we got GSP.

We've got the pyramid. We got the comedy We've got the ass open. Yeah, so these people let's go back to this some this Smithsonian thing These people with their altered heads is it your suspicion that they were altering their heads to try to appear like people that were already here Like the Peruvian skulls and before I thought oh, sorry, okay Oh before I thought that but because like there's Chuck skulls in China that were originally mistaken for chromag and Neanderthals stuff like old And now they say they're artificially modified by people but no I think could you pull up the image for Chiari malformation? It's the what's got two heads with one circle like two CAT scans I was talking about the brain falling down into the thing Mm-hmm.

They believe that this is a problem from Neanderthal and or Denise of in mingling with us right school too small brain too big So if you have this consistent problem, you've got it always got pressure on the brain See how it's pops down there. You've always got this pressure on the brain now imagine if you you might drill holes in your head Like you see all the truncation that's happened down there. There's an image that yeah, then or you might elongate the back of the skull every Generation so that your kids don't have the same fucking headaches ramp up did And so it becomes a thing that and this is why if you check out South America Peracas is insane this way they have so many things of poly dactylie the elongated skulls the trepination There's a thing could you pull up the Inca bone when well your skulls melt the plates in the skull melt in the back If there is stress or lack of equilibrium you'll end up what they call a Fermion bones ones in the back or warming bones The ones in the back are so pronounced There's a called inkabones because they happen mostly in Inca territory You also see the Easter Island the Pacific Northwest and in Asia But this part of the skull right there, and there's one that's got in the anders all that shows this too The animals have the same issue There's another one and there's an island. Oh, Jesus But yeah, the sorry there's yeah, there's one that's my own head right now There's one with white text at the bottom Jamie.

Sorry, but yeah, the enders all had it and it's a beginning It's from a lack of equilibrium They say it's from the brain in the skull not quite fitting that makes sense I think in South America I think that they were mingling different bloodlines them the same as you can look at a guy that plays reach or Until that he's probably got more to Andrew following than I do and they would mingle these bloodlines and then they would get All kinds of different yeah, there's a neander thought one they would get all kinds of different genetic variations And I think some of these were bad, but some of them were honored like you've seen the Jaguar people of the omic Mm-hmm. Okay, you ever seen can you put that dental dysplasia one that kid with the two fangs? There's there's dental things. It'll make you grow fangs as a child and also quite often we'll give you a hair lip Jaguar Whoa, and so like if you look yeah, and so like what do you think that's from again?

This is for some ancient shit for people used to have teeth like that. It's DNA there again. Well, we cross mingle DNA There should be one right there about the mouths with a paper sorry Right, but those teeth that's not in any other human primate that we've ever found No, it happens in ours, but it's just a malformation malformation that we have a lot of that like the some people just keep growing teeth, right? Right, or you get different bones in the head different shapes of the skull I've seen the skulls ancient skulls with rows of teeth.

Yeah, yeah Some of those like they don't know for sure how many of those are legit, but the there's definitely no questions that these things happen That's again with a real problem with this is becomes a cover-up like a little big Oh, I mentioned that they were all these elongated skulls in the Pacific Northwest Mount coffin in Longview, Washington when Colonel Charles Wilkes or Lieutenant Charles Wilkes whose father happened to be a member of the school and bone society in England When he got to Longview, Washington He saw Mount coffin this place where they had these above ground burials and there were 3,000 of them all of them supposedly would have had elongated skulls because again if you don't have a elongated skull and that Of the woods you weren't a freeborn person and this was you had to be noble to be buried there 3,000 elongated skulls when he left this campfire actually burnt the place down all those skulls disappeared Now I'm that image that Jimmy Skip passed a little big goes Just a dude sitting on pile of bones This is an Indian burial ground that they were just looting the things and selling them left and right Where do you think those things are in people's house people hands? Well, I've never heard of a story of a person having a long-dated skull in their private collection I have a couple of people in a comment on my videos saying like I saw one at someone's house in 1978 But but here's but I'll give you a Smokey dinner though, right? If you're like some Rockefeller type guy you got a mansion in Rhode Island It's why you brought up Rockefeller in the 30s when Tello down in Peracas he starts pointing out Hey, we've got these elongated skulls down there, and I need money He was getting $300 a year to take care of him Rockefeller gets winded history says flat out He took an unexpected trip to Peru he dropped three grand and walked back with four bundles now according to three grand Yeah, and four four grave bundles I sometimes what Tello was getting a year Tones what the guy was getting a year to take care of all of them He coughed up four out of like 300 bundles now those four bundles were supposedly displayed at the Met Supposedly displayed at the National History Museum in New York no photos exist no drawings exist They may have been repatriated. They may not have been repatriated depends on who you ask Hey, I'll run you in a damn circle if going with it at the end of the day We don't know which were they what they look like but I can tell you this much There's about 300 of those bundles to pick from do you think rock if one of had great big old devil horns and a third I do think Rockefeller left it or took it with him to fucking no brain or shit right right so the best of the best always gone and When Rockefeller found out that he couldn't go get the ones in the Pacific Northwest anymore But there was some somewhere else he ran there and right now you sent me the video just a little bit ago But this is more their these schools are disappearing off the shelves in the museums right now.

Yeah, right as we speak this cover up There's this cover up. I'm sure you've seen the map Hundred years ago they wrote drew a map of artificial cranial deformation and then like ten years ago They made another one both of these on peer-reviewed papers and the older map has more information There's more the more areas they've erased the island of Newy had it Ancient Hawaiian people had about 8.9% of them that they dig up had elongated skulls Nobody fucking talks about that nobody knows about it If you want to go look at it the answers know when you say ancient like what you're not sure But when they dig them up when they start doing a prehistoric they call it but prehistoric in Hawaii, you know Maybe a thousand years ago Wow, so this is all over the world people are doing that well Yeah, and then what you're saying about the brain size and the base of the brain completely makes sense Thank you I mean to me it seems like the most smoke and it's not only just a smoking gun It's like it coincides with human evolution because what would be? Imagine you've got a neanderthal a homo sapae and they're talking to each other trying to figure out a problem And they both walk away from that with like mad respect for the other person's ability to see what they don't When they want to mingle that So like a Jimmy, could you pull that picture that I got of the that family tree? It's just it's like an empty blank white family tree and then right after it's like imagine if you were trying to make a symbol to tell everybody Hey, this is where we mingle bloodlines.

So like this is a standard kind of thing right and could you pull up that kondalabra next notes? It should be like um, sorry Uh, if that same symbol basically with the kondalabra the Andes you've seen that right the okay, the kondalabra the Andes visible 12 miles out to see Okay, um if you think we're trying to draw the draw we're trying to draw the mingling of bloodlines And here's a symbol of where we're doing it Fuck it doesn't I mean does that kind of look on can you and then you pull up that perotcus textile Jamie? This one even more this is when they buried people in perotcus. This was they put him in these textiles and this one textile Look that back there look at what that trying to translate that and keep in mind.

Well, just telling you okay It looks like a monkey on either side and then a person in the middle and it looks like there's some sort of a transference of something Through the top of their heads. Yeah, that's upside down. Well, this first of all, it looks like they did dmt Well, clearly it looks like the hours of Iowas right there's like 100% they were on dmt But that does look like two monkeys, right? It looks like they have tails isn't it?

Yeah, it does and then the one in the middle looks like the bad motherfucker. That's the boss That's pregnant. I've met that guy before Yeah, I met that guy. I met that guy over there But you see that notice in the middle of the thing he's got it something in his tummy Uh-huh.

I mean if you think about the same line of reasoning we're mixing different bloodlines to make something more that image kind of seems to Also, they always have three fingers and three toes and then you get to the tridacto mummies and I do I don't know what to think about the tridacto mummies You do I it's honestly like I'm of the opinion now that I think that the genetic stuff they were doing in South America down in Peru Created a lot of artificial quite a lot of natural weird problems and some of them would be Like misshapen skulls and then I think they would wrap the heads to artificially modify I mean I think that's why down there they get so crazy looking because it's a combination of genetics and of artificially playing with it Okay, the rest of the world. They don't get that so do you think maybe they had like a bulbous roundish head But extra large because there's those skulls as well that seem to be not deformed But they do have a large brain capacity. Yeah, though Once that are bulbous in the back those are that's the most common type of cranial deformation that you see it's what Concomly school the chief that was showing you It's a people that would please Jamie. So bulbous in the back bulbous.

Yeah, that's huge Yeah, and that would keep it and now notice even back a hundred years ago that picture that he was just showing that The other photograph why isn't his skull elongated? Well, it's hard to tell because he's looking straight on But could be all of the all the artistic work of him is lacking that for some reason right? But couldn't you see that if some of that one looks pretty elongated just to go back to that That's crazy that was meeting those dudes. You'll be like yo, what are you?

Like they're doing it to the baby right there. Oh the poor kid Imagine being a baby fucking strapped into that thing Oh, man days in this book here a quote from a book called a story at least be required reading up where I live in The guy that witnessed them one of these kids being their head-binding had said that their eyes bulged out of their skull like a mouse caught in a trap So you think about that bonus? But if your kid was gonna have migraines incessantly for the rest of their life, you might just do that anyway Yeah, I guess they had to do it if you're right if you're right about the base of the brain which kind of tracks But it to me the the Capacity of the skulls being so much larger and some of the Peruvian skulls is weird It is it's a funny one too because these guys will argue back and forth You'll get a lot of skeptics to say there is no larger capacity But the guys that measure it claim it there is and the other guys that measure it's but that one that we always show all the time Jimmy That one that I'm really fascinated by that one image. It's so big.

It's so big. It's so crazy You're looking at it and you're like what is that that to imagine meeting that guy you would be freaked out like that would not look at all Like a person you would think oh my God this guy's from another planet. Yeah, okay And then there's the sagittal suture thing that some of them don't have the sagittal suture that we have yeah, that's uh, yeah again Um these paper under that head that head man also look at the size of the eye sockets Yeah, it's the eye sockets are fucking huge that person must have insane eyeballs Imagine what their eyes would look like when they're looking at you I mean how much bigger is that than a human's eye socket so much bigger? That was to bid a wild looking dude never bring that guy over your house for party your friends be like yo He's reading everybody's mind.

Oh shit I'm not playing if you're playing trivia. He's all my team that guy's the freakiest one man The one on the left but what you're saying might be accurate right that that might have been a rounded thing that was manipulated to be a Flatten thing. Yeah, that's I think that it was I think that it was partially natural like even the sagittal suture that Um, this is one of the things they find with the Denisovan and Neanderthal DNA. I'm on the right is that real?

Yeah, is that a I that's fucking real? Come on man. What are we looking at and someone stole that someone's got that fucking Rhode Island mansion? Of course, you know those bronze age or gilded age mansions.

They haven't but very weird man I got into a YouTube rabbit hole the other day of bronze or gilded age mansions Oh boy Newport, Rhode Island where all these like fucking super rich creepy people set up their castles It's nuts man. I guarantee if you get in the room is a fucking glass box and inside of it There's one of these skulls. It looks like it's from another planet But yeah, and it's so it's weird to me that they're hiding all this it's that somebody's hiding all that well It's it's this maybe not just somebody But there's definitely money behind it because it happens like so fast and it happened like the art I will link an article in a video and it'll be dead in two weeks And I'll have to go fucking like I've got three different ways to find this one thing right now I've downloaded it because it just keeps disappearing it's the what talks about Rockefeller buying the skulls and it's just someone scrubbing the internet of the rock Rocker feller scub It still shows up to think it's because someone has them and they're like Oh, I'm a hundred percent those school history says I either repatriated them or you left them in the museum And it's like it so and I asked you ask what's the catalog numbers? Oh, well, there are no catalog numbers for human remains.

Okay, fuck you. I know better than that It's just and they all ultimate What really gets me is this to give you the same excuse for Papua New Guinea as they do for China as they do for Easter Island As they do for Hawaii as they do for the Pacific Northwest as they do for progress Well, it's about you know, it's about like protecting the indigenous people's beliefs And they don't want you to have like their skulls because and that would be like you have part of their souls It's like okay I can understand that some of them might think this way But we got men and knights in Pennsylvania that don't believe that and they're sitting right next door to their friends that do believe that How am I supposed to accept the entire Pacific Rim fucking all falls into line? We can't get him to do that same shit in Pennsylvania I don't buy it. This is this is a European thing.

This isn't a this isn't an islander thing It's an appal and Asian thing. It's covering these things up These people are perfectly content to have their skulls displayed as far as we can tell but it's always some white you're going Oh, we're gonna hide those fucking skulls because we're a piecey At the end of the day Please put all your shit in the museum so that we can keep a good eye on it for you Can I see it fuck you it's gone fuck you let's go try to find this online You'll find an image that says no image available that has a title and that's it You there was one last I looked there was one copy that was in a that was in a library in Malta And you really think that's because someone's in possession of this stuff and they're trying to squash it I think that there's a narrative there that people don't want pushed I think that it might have something to do with I mean, let's be honest when I'm talking about when you start talking about mingling different bloodlines for different traits This does sound awfully eugenics, right? It does sound like it's dipping your toes into this kind of politically incorrect stuff But how is it eugenics that people just into bread? I There was a I believe there was a program in progress like really can you pull up one of the pictures of the person presenting the when they would bring the There's there's when those Jaguar babies, right?

The Jaguar people in the old mexis I had to hair lip and the things like I was showing There's more than one statue of them presenting them. There you go. Here's my baby This baby's all fucking mutilated not like me to die here you go. What that baby doesn't look It's that's not a very good image, but yeah, it's there any that one doesn't look that one looks normal It just looks like a mother with a baby Yeah, if you look at the top down that both of those they have hair lips and are missing the teeth there They are Jaguar babies like that one that last image.

Yeah, that's that's a trophy school With the only trophy school known with a cleft lip You know if you were born with a cleft lip even the Spanish recorded if you were born with a cleft lip To their people they would put you in a temple as part of the workers you were considered holy six fingers was considered holy Deformations were considered holy and this trophy skull. What does it mean by that? I mean that this is like a mummified school with a whole drill didn't I wish I could get a real image But this is the only one that exists somebody has that somewhere yeah museum or somewhere yeah somewhere But yeah, there's there's a bunch of these trophy schools that they kept down in South America They would wear schools on their belt they didn't shrink or run or not They just drill a hole right in the fucking thing and hang it right on their belt. Yeah, but that one especially prize because that was a noble You walk around with a noble person skull hang from your belt.

That's how they would wear them I'm a badass. Wow. Yeah, that part of the world was never so you think there's a potential that they were created They were breeding people specifically. Yeah, I think that they would like pick pick bloodlines And be like you know what you look more like and you look more like and you need to have a baby together and then here's a baby Oh, we got a good one.

It's a Jaguar So what do you think the whole tridactyl thing is I think some of the tridactyl mummies look fake is what to me Just to be clear the early one's the tiny ones get a little cake The ones that they do the cats hands up like wow, you know and then you find out that they're like at least 1200 years old You're like are you telling me that 1200 years ago someone created this? I think the DNA would be a good way to get into that to begin with I know yeah I mean it's just weird that this is all going on and we don't have definitive answers And there's not also like a mad rush among scientists to discover these two trophies calls. Yeah This one just has a drill hole in the forehead Fucking clown around with the skin on it and the hair so this person's just walking around with someone's head wrapped around their waist description I just read said they were most I mean the ones that they found were young women like 13 or 16 years old But I don't know if that's what these are wow one of them looks like a woman one of the right looks like a woman That's so crazy But that's that's where things get so weird when you go back and you realize that entire cultures They engaged in ritual sacrifice at a mass scale like what the Aztecs did they did wild mass sacrifice and they their culture was so Involved sacrifice so much that they would go out and get other people and that's one of the reasons why Cortez was able to group all these People to attack the Aztecs like these motherfuckers have been killing us ritually forever now We're happy to kick these guys's ass. Oh wait, you're not gonna help us Like one of my favorite stories about that afterwards They're like okay We need all you guys to bring all your codices here so that we can we can put them on these shelves and so like all these Mesoamerican codices show up in the Spanish fryers like torch Fuck you watch the wall bird.

Yeah, and there's like a handful left that exists now I know they just bought three years ago They bought those ones from a family in Mexico that had had him for like 500 years and one of them talks about the building of Tail people come whoa The next thing I can go for about for like 250 grand to it's late like I tell them that Bell and that those like that's fucking nothing Dope trophies are fucking sick. Oh, you're chief school. Wow. Hold on.

No. It's like it's a smoothie down here. Holy shit So now imagine this Straight out of the predator. Yeah, these are from Indonesia.

Oh dear God I don't I don't do some of this looks almost like this just like from out of a movie But they've got tusks under some of the skulls. What the well that well go go back up a little bit Well, I like some of them have one on the right with the horn from that is nose with human child trophy Human child trophies go what the fuck man? How did I never hear about this before? We'll have a little bit of headsets on What the fuck man, why why does it say info email?

You sound like that? Yeah, I mean I stumbled across something here. It does say art. Oh, I will art Asia We just oh okay.

Yeah, that actually doesn't look like a skull that looks like it's carved out of wood like the nose part It's all filled in you imagine if you found out there was a website you just ordered trophy skull That's right. I was finding out I was finding recreated ones on Etsy Oh It says it's a replica Lord, but what kind of a fucking Etsy person by monster. That's the kind of person It's like I even tried it like a good dude with a Skulls that's wild. Well, but you know even some of these all my kids have hair lips Mmm like I got a picture saved on one of those that has it it was and again If you mingle the Andrew Thal or the niece of an DNA with human DNA This is a thing was you end up with facial deformations including hair lips real bro Early with 20th century die I concise trophy skull and it's got a name it costs a lot of money and they say where it came from You could buy that yeah talking about good for the price You think that you imagine if we had a fucking skull human skull in the desk That's too creepy that is because we don't know how the guy died or the woman died private collection from 1000 Oh, wow see how many private collections are out there.

I was telling you find elongated skull for sale I was telling you about your I was looking I was looking I was telling you about that chief con calmly He was a huge friends to the honkeys that came through that area He married off his daughters to fur trappers. He cried when they moved the fort 30 miles away He was like he was a bunch of braves came up and said we're gonna go kill all these white guys He's like hey, hey, you know see how tight they're tightly woven their cloth is you see how strong their weapons are Do you see any of their kids that are women? Do you think this is all their capable ever? Do you think they're gonna bring more to bear when they bring their families with them?

Let's not fuck with these guys. He was really shrewd and smart He died three years later some British do chop this fucking head off They actually hit him instead of these a grub-bub ground canoe burials They hit him because they knew do chops his head off ships to school back to England It wasn't until this came out five years after they repatriated the school to the chin of people We are they actually carved on the back of his fucking head even like Yeah, there chief con calmly. Here's a school. Here's a friend So if you can't see it they engraved that on the back of his skull.

Oh my god It's like so horrific and like so you can see why this masonian might be a little hard-pressed in lighting this stuff out But well the the proving skulls though Deed like when you look at them and you look at the monster rod Do you think there's more to this story is it is this as simple as? cranial deformation plus They do it on purpose or is there a potential for a different species of human what live there? There's almost certainly in my opinion a different species is human that live there And I mean even you know, I'm not into the ancient alien stuff But all honesty I wouldn't be if if there was aliens intermingling with humans This would probably be the best smoking gun place for it There's also all the evidence that they were building art that you can only see from the sky exactly which is really weird Which is really weird and even things like like that kind of elaborate the Andes and I was that's visible again 12 miles out to see Easter Island's close enough imagine the guys jumping down from right here from Portland Oregon just jumping down the coast to Barakas where we draw the conclusion that that it represents genetic engineering I wouldn't have drawn it to begin with but it looks like a family tree and it's like with everything else lined up all This I mean you're trying to say hey guys. This is where we do this.

What symbol would you use? Right and that's where okay again if this was in a vacuum This is not how I got there This is this is kind of the icing on the cake is the perochus con-collabor and that that textile thing The honest to God evidence is I mean there's a lot of papers that I have a handful papers I've got screenshots of their but you pick your genetic deformation and then Google it with Denise of Internet Andersville and you almost get in fucking tea hydrocephalus that big skull thing that I showed there You see some few holes in progress with those great big things hydrocephalus is something that's they is the frequency is increased when you In mingle Denise of Internet Earth all DNA. It's constant issue that candelabra image does that image appear in other areas? It actually does is crazily enough it appears in Easter Island on skulls that are carved with that same image Whoa, I just I don't put any in the file But I got them in a video there's two of them that they have one is like a straight line and then one's like a bird man Kind of it's the same image.

It's a scald you mean humans I mean I do see decorated like those were just looking at so a dead human that has that on their head that they scratched it in afterwards Whoa, there's the parrot the Easter Island had elongated skulls, but almost all those are gone They're and they're hard to find images like impossible But they do have these and they were like it would do artwork on skulls after they would die And a few of them do strongly resemble the candelabra the and is that condelabra is that anywhere else down there? There's another Not that I've seen can I see that again, please the candelabra because the family tree thing It's like is it the same configuration on the Easter Island heads or is it similar the it's it's not identical But it's really what look for Easter Island modified school Jamie and that'll probably pull up the it'll be a paper I thought you'll find it I doubt you'll find it in the images section, but if you click all there should be a paper that And maybe I have to go to Google scholar to find it. I apologize, but yeah, yeah there's there's artwork on these things and a handful of them that is There's artwork on a few don't on two of them in particular that's got that that same fork symbol and one of them Basically, they call a bird that bird man. There we go.

Bam. There's the bird man And then on the same page, you should see good job Jamie You're fucking pimp so you did a bunch of art on these skulls, but two of them have that same symbol They're there Similar super similar yeah, not identical for sure, but it's it does have the same Three things forking together. It's just a theory that that's the tree of life. Yeah, oh, yeah, I'm really tree rather Yeah, that's totally again that the family tree thing is completely completely my thing I'm this one represents a penis entering a vulva right in the back of the That he drew it on said that guy was like the earliest bad tattoo art ever Maybe they were honoring persons ability to deep throat.

Oh this far back Again, the imagery and stuff I can't be a hundred percent already You never be a hundred percent of this stuff, but the genetic Those warming bones I showed you on the back they call them inkabones for a reason because they show up in the ink They the ink has have a higher the South American in Peru. They have a higher instance of cleft palate They have a higher instance of polydactyl they have just pick your fucking thing That's in line with all this and it happens more there than it does almost anywhere else in the world And then when you see everything else the elongated skulls that frankly beggared belief Imagery and stuff that seems to the way that they praised genetic deformations It seems almost unthinkable They wouldn't be trying to imagine if everybody in your society praised kids that were looked a certain way wouldn't you necessarily wouldn't some people want to have kids It looked that way right and there was probably some benefit that also came with that exactly again to the intellect They went up something even if it was just a social even even the kid could be Think about this one person born with those weird teeth and a cleft palate. That's also a little Einstein. Oh, it takes one from every now on It's like you this guy looks like Einstein, right?

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That's like when people in the 1400s we're getting syphilis and they all start wearing the big wigs exactly exactly just took that one royal family With syphilis to wear wigs. Nobody's like got a where wing and that's it's got it we follow these trends, right? Yeah, it's we people are weird that way, but here we are that's a weird one that the The higher classification of a person who was born with other human DNA that's given them specific traits But the thing about the monster on stuff and that doesn't seem like a human if that's real the three fingers and the three toes and don't they have extra ribs? Yeah, something like that or extra vertebrae got to size the head the whole thing looks so weird You're like okay is if this really has been carbon dated to 1200 years ago That's legit.

What is that because I don't think that 1200 years ago people were capable of recreating something like that That's gonna survive in cats can't why would you do the kind of work that they did You can only see from a cat scan because the entire outside of it is covered yeah, right? It's got the white clay and it's all mummified and this tissue that's mummified. Yeah, how no, that's how the fuck did you do that? That's a very that's a good point and again that the one gene that's responsible for polydactylate when they they in mice when they introduced it to the GLI three variants that happens in the end or falling mice caused extra ribs extra vertebrae Sculmous shape and dental morphology fucked up and sometimes extra fingers sometimes good extra fingers sometimes bad extra Did the mice figure out how to get out of the cage?

Even notes pink scratch notes in the window let me out pinky today. We cocked the world Well, do you think the Smithsonian has had giant bones? Yes, I'm only that but this is funny what I was here last time I would have told you I don't think so I mean maybe 6 to 5 but I've got a lot of research in a sense today fuck okay one dude who I'm sure I'll get his name Wrong his name is ails hi Glicka. He was a guy from Hungary who was a medical doctor He had this theory that's a lot like the same theory of Phrenology like Leonardo Caprio poking with back and school boy that makes you docile Except for it was all encompassing with the skeleton He believed that you could do it with arms and bones arm bones and leg bones and all of it So he left medical science to become an anthropologist to push that narrative he fucking set it point blank And then he goes out and says oh all these Indian bones that you guys have that are bigger than white people bones Didn't happen This guy's got a vested interest in proving that white people are superior and he believes that you prove this by the skeletons And he comes out of the debunk all the giant bones and the way he did it.

He's like oh see these bones It's like that's what I get pulled over by the cop I pull out the I don't have any drugs on the officer cities are cigarettes What you're just again 1930s and there are their images these bones this guy's displaying very very little It's almost all this is just been scrubbed. It's so what was he saying those bones were he was just saying that he said that people mismeasured them This is what it gets really really ugly It's he accuses people some of these guys were really good at their job And he'll accuse them of mismeasuring them and not knowing how to properly apply a tape measure and the worst example of this in 1959 20 years after this dude's on this one the dude in charge of the Department of the humanities at the Carnegie Museum Dr. Donder goo dug up in one of these adena mounts a Skeleton and he says according to the in-ground measurements this indicates an individual that in life would have been seven foot three inches tall Baby bunk it by saying well, this is just an in-ground measurement This is just it hasn't he didn't do any other any other work with it or anything It's like the man flat-out said it indicates He was is 1959 15 years after they had all the mathematical formula for doing skeletons This guy they threw him straight under the fucking bus to debunk that skeleton that you can't find anywhere because they won't show it to you So it's like and this was in 59 again a guy in charge of a big department of the Carnegie Museum not damn big in the backyard So is there a chance of custody of that skeleton like can that be traced and for all the way to the Carnegie Museum? Where we don't know what happened to it now?

This is this is a consistent issue with these remains if it's a giant bone or elongated school and you want to know more about it Real good chance you're not gonna be able to find anything. So what do you think was going on? Do you think there was a completely different species of enormous people? I maybe or maybe even just some of us that had the different just some different DNA in this than somebody else, you know Know just a little bit of you know, I mean, I want a six finger six toe thing.

Well keeps coming up Yeah, that's like we get that now with just a little bit in the androids all DNA, right? So you get different species that had more than ease of an in the us and still technically might be the same species But not do you think it's possible that these giants were the no's denisovans? It's possible because denisovans were a lot larger than us, right? Yeah, at least six inches I say and if you had a big one like this shack, right?

Yeah, and there's me I mean like if you have a really big one like it isn't impossible that there's a range of even those things Like we only have a couple bones, right? And I think there's something that just came out of China Yeah, but homo julule lenses, you know that they think it might be denisovans. It might be the same thing, right? Yeah, dragon man the same thing that's been out for a little bit now But yeah, there was something that was like super recent where they were proposing because I think they're trying to figure out What we're talking about but we're talking about it from just a couple of bones There's not a lot it's not like they had a whole graveyard filled denisovans with various heights and weights and they can get an estimation of like what the medium was Oh, yeah, that's the majority of what we know about them comes from DNA, right?

Right, that's majority. Yeah, so we have a few bones. Yeah, but then it's like how big how big are they? Like is this a 12 foot tall person?

Is that real? They said five foot tall people and there's nine foot tall people exactly What's the tallest person today like eight foot alive now? I'm not sure but like Robert Waggle was like he had a real problem Yeah, giant giantism. That's like a tumor on the to a turquoise keep on growing Yeah, but I think that just for just an outsized enormous person I think the record today is like okay eight foot 2.8 inches in 2011 yo saltin cose and of turkey, okay Come on that guy lives in Turkey.

It's like the one of the oldest DNAs in the world We're go backly tap his how is this guy a giant holy crap the size of that guy Was it like we just ended up put him over there? Okay, and he doesn't even look like he has giganticism Does he I don't know he just looks like a giant dude. He doesn't have like a miss shaped head or anything like that Either way pretty impressive now a mat now is that imagine is that a gene thing like is that is that capable of being? Is that old is that some old DNA from some other kind of human or is that just a really big person?

That's a different guy that's a guy in China, right? And the six finger six toes once is that ubiquitous? Is that does that occur in all of the reports of these bodies? No, it doesn't some of them have to two roasts T some of our six six fingers and six toes what is like I got pretty skeptical about because there's a lot of giant reports in America Where people were digging up mounds and so I got kind of skeptical about who I was taking it from like a Joe farmer I just was like okay I'm you know maybe not but if the guy was like somebody's guys were really good at what they did and they'd say they recorded something it was So there's probably a dozen solid accounts that are from people that were bullshit artists that had more to lose And they did the game and some of them were two of them in particular are like good scientists like well-known anthropologists respected in their field And they were finding giant bones and even today like that guy that told about dr.

Bondry goo There was a anthropologist right now that hurt like a two or three years ago She debunked his work by claiming that he just did an in-ground measurement and that was it and it's like he clearly said this Indicates an individual that was this tall in life. It's like I did a measurement on this and it indicates that's clearly telling you I didn't just take a dead measurement and they just throw us right on the fucking bus in order to keep this narrative going And that's where it's weird to me because I don't think flint dibble and all of his friends give two shits about the giant narrative like Rockefeller does I think it's way more of an ego thing with them because Archaeology is not a fucking science joke not even close it functions like a science like religion does so these guys They all know it they know their larping is scientists They know when they call it science deniers are fully shit So they just have to do anything they can do it was buff their chest well some of it is science right? Sure some of it is but let me put you like this So why are you saying archaeology is a study of human culture by material remains okay now science the corner So does scientist's replicability? Are you believe if I?

Combine hydrogen and oxygen and you combine hydrogen we should get the same thing now if I dig up something in my backyard Can you replicate that or are you be holdable? What if Joseph Smith is up old plates and I dig up an arrowhead you believe one and not the other right? But you can put protocols in place where you have a bunch of people that are all responsible for making sure that everything goes According to plan they all report to someone else but I know but how is it replicable? Well, it's not replicable, but they are exposing these ancient remains and they are using but they can use some Carbon dating absolutely using physics there.

Yeah physics right that's what it really comes down to Fundamentally archaeology cannot be science any more than theology fundamentally Americal you either believe or you don't I dug up something in my backyard You believe it again don't you can't replicate it one of these things you can film people pulling things out of the ground Would you like prove that it's old you can you can but there's a lot of instances where like they're doing a construction dig in Mexico City And they find like stone they stop construction archaeologists come in like there's a whole chain of custody of where this stuff's coming from absolutely So isn't that kind of scientific kind of I mean? Again, okay, there's a chain of custody on the Epstein letters right right but I point it falls apart because of Do you believe or do you not that's what it really comes down to you with archaeology is I can't replicate the findings and if you can't replicate I'm not saying just worthless right a historian knows better than to call themselves a scientist They know it's not so they use scientific methods. I give video game speed runner If you know what that is somebody's trying to like beat super Mario brothers, okay, they use science So you'll put an archaeologist more in the line of a story absolutely. Yeah, they are they yeah Both of them call somebody else when it comes time to carbon date, you know, it's they again the Reproducibility is crucial and like the argument that they always go to is well like well astronomy is not reproducible If you have a supernova, you can't reproduce that well Yeah, except I have a hundred telescopes all trained on it So this guy's data set and that guy's data set jibe.

It's been reproduced If I've got one arrow head to dug up out of the ground We either believe it this dude dug up the arrow head out of the ground or we don't and this especially matters when it becomes To these unique one-off lines. It's one thing when it's an arrow head. It's nothing altogether with the anti-kithra mechanism Right and so this is where archaeology becomes some people you could understand why somebody might believe the anti-kithra mechanisms bullshit And at that point it goes directly what I'm saying it's face-based Do you does this this coincide with my world view or not? Which is why archaeology is like this huge split between these people that The guys that are that are trying to puff their chests and say that they really is what they claim it to be and then there's The people that are actually just doing good work and they'll be quick to tell you You know at the end of the day our results aren't you know We do science what we can but we can't say for sure that our results are Scientific because we're it's a lot of guesswork at the end and that becomes a problem when they do things like Clovis first When they're like we're going to use our science to beat everything else off the table It's not fucking science bitch.

So get it out of here And that's where yeah the same thing like I was saying early with the COVID thing You don't get to too many of us know what the scientific method is but you just come in here and tell us it's something else It's like when Dibble was trying to deny that they did that They deny that archaeologists will attack people that have evidence of something that contradicts their assertions That's crazy to deny there's so much the history of that he called it What's so funny when you hear that debate he tells you when you're pushing on him like that he goes well That's an example of an academic debate those things happen. It's like dude, okay That same guy was telling about ails high-delica that racist on a bitch with a giant Before he believed that there were no people in the Americas before 3,000 years ago Even on the Wikipedia page of the Folsom tradition It still says now that any archaeologists desire a successful career could not pause it an earlier date for the people in the Americas or him and one other dude would destroy their fucking careers This isn't the first time it's been going it's ego it against and it's men mostly right It's human men and their egos and wanting to be the gatekeeper of information. I'm an authority. I'm the authority figure Yeah, imagine imagine the the shot to the ego it takes with it to be a guy like for you study all your time And you study all this crap and then Graham comes along and he studies and he writes he writes a fake history and you write a fake history and his cells more Oh, man, that's just gonna cry right up and right up in his ass And it doesn't they just don't like also that someone comes along and they're super obsessed with a subject and they're not confined by the academic world Where they have to get funding to do certain studies?

They have to get things approved. They want to get tenure They have to get the approval of the higher-ups There's all sorts of stuff that happens in the academic world that doesn't happen in the world of the Jimmy Corseides and the Luke Caverns These people that could just go to places and start filming you know Ben Van van Kirkwood can just go places start filming and become huge experts and stuff I mean the information that's available about the old kingdom all this thing It's all available like anyone can read it if you take the time and if you really dive into it And these guys have dove in jail and a lot of these other guys haven't and that's the thing and they're amazing Maybe not lazy, but let's say this not as obsessed so they should look at the Ben Van Kirkwood as a resource Thank you I've been saying this one for a long time, but they do the opposite I give you a perfect example Jimmy Corsetti two years ago on X posts I wonder if the Nephilim in the Bible were the Denise of ins under the andry fall or something like that at the time They didn't know Denise of ins were taller than us so all the archaeologists Jimmy stupid there the nephilim was supposed to be taller than us and both of these species are shorter and I even said I'm like I'll just let this go a couple days and I'm gonna show you guys what you're doing wrong And I let him go at it and I was like okay Let's try this as a science communicator. Let's try it like this Hey Jim those ones are shorter than humans But there are other species of RKQ hominid like gigantic vidicists that were taller than us that might fit the bill Why don't you look into that and see what you find you take somebody's passion They're looking at the rabbit hole you shove them in head first that science communication telling them the rabbit hole ain't fucking there Over your that's being a car. Well, I also think we should all operate all human beings under this assumption We don't have all the evidence for all the humans that lived we just don't we only have a tiny Fraction we have fossilized remains especially when shit gets really old.

We don't have enough data Yeah, and if you just operate on we don't have enough data, which is pure pure everyone should agree on that So once you have it and then say okay This is the data we have and this points to the fact that new humans are emerging that we're finding and we might be wrong About the number that existed and potentially there could be a cave somewhere in Siberia or wherever and they find another bone And they go holy shit. What is this one? This is a totally different kind of person and now you have another one and you have another one and who knows how many of them There were and this will give us a richer understanding of what took place and then I think Michael buttons has a really good video Where he's talking about how anatomically human and anatomically similar humans existed a long time ago Like why would we assume that civilization and complex thinking and tool making and technology only emerged in the last couple hundred years when the exact same Species existed hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of years ago. Isn't it possible that something some some human a long time ago I'd figured out some stuff and we have no evidence of it anymore because of just natural where and the weathering and the earth absorbs things There's nothing left.

Yeah, that seems more logical. Yeah, I completely agree. Yeah, I love Mike. He's great.

Oh Michael button Yeah, he's great. There's one of the things honestly I'd just I really quickly I've loved watching the last year and a half since I've been on here left Well, you just kind of went through my litany of friends and stuck them in this chair one after the fucking other That's really good to see But it's a fun time it's fun time to get cool people to talk about cool shit and the passion that these guys have like you say that's Honestly, it's a huge thing. You know, don't give me a really good really good compliment don't come trussle saying that I was like that I was all passionate like a fucking Well, what's that guy that did all calculus and stuff the old school old school sir Isaac Newton and I was like damn I don't think I'm like that, but thank you. I've probably got his money chemicals in my body, but um Isaac Newton the tripper.

No, no, he was a he was an ockamist. So he like died of mercury poisoning Yeah, he was this is one of the funniest things. I love saying this one on Twitter I say once every couple years if this went the world we live in now where they'll take a scientist And they'll say like yeah, but this guy's political opinions are all skewed So fuck this guy it's like you know what they would have done with sir Isaac You wouldn't have the theory of gravity or calculus. They'd have been like yeah, that guy denies the Trinity and he's fucking an ockamist Why would I put up with this crazy guys bullshit?

It's like it's yeah, but yeah, it's it's I just want to think I've actually come to a Lot of terms with my own little searching in this community is that there's a lot of people I disagree with on fucking 80% But that 20% that they're if they bring on his data to the table Yeah, like and my best example of this is goes all the way back to a 1880s Carl Christian Raffen or 1830s even he was a anthropologist He was he believed that the Norse discovered America before Columbus and the reason he believed this was because every time you'd see a rock with a Glyph on it he's like and then dumb in the inside of Cardinal fucking rocks Grained all their weapons are made out of somebody anyway. They don't know how to make this so must have been a white guy So he does research research research and eventually finds out that it was the north to be now He was pissing up a rope with his fucking evidence line of evidence But he did on his research and he got his real data, right? I'm finding a lot that I just have to like I really don't like you, but okay, right What do you got to say this is a part of the problem with the Atlantis thing? And this is why guys like Flint always connected to racism because there were a group of people that were white supremacists that believed that the white race Was responsible for Atlantis, but those are those are not like credible historians These are also not in the same group of people as Graham or you or Ben Van Kirk or any of these people no one's saying that so to connect people to something Like Atlantis where there are problematic people that believe something that was racist just because you're talking about Atlantis doesn't mean everybody who's Investigating Atlantis is also problematic in races.

That's crazy. Well, they say well it encourages racism I always jump with you see only there evidence you see me white supremacist site to stuff And I always always go like you see only white supremacist site all kinds of things water poverty and crime And all these other things should we get rid of all of these statistics to we should just quick guys anything that a white supremacist might use Do you remember the Mack tonight commercial was a big McDonald's moon man? No, you don't remember Years ago, but we were kids in the 80s. It's a big moon man guy that was singing a Mack the knife parody We're in the clocks right half past six babe time to head for gold in line Okay, about 15 years ago They started using a thing with like some weird voice chat and this guy's making racist memes does that mean that McDonald's is fucking racist Or does it just mean that racist will go off fucking anything including Pepe the frog?

The frog is the best example. Thank you. That poor guy who made Pepe the frog Exactly what these guys do, but we can't talk about anything without it being racist. It's like you all this just a way to dismiss you It's it's a way to wet and a drag other people in yeah, man.

This guy's home and talk about the pyramids Yeah, whatever always also racist. Oh fuck we got five percent of them came over cool. Yeah, it's yeah It's really pathetic and um, you know, you know, I get shit during the election cycles from friends and from fans that but for not supporting Ex-wiresy, and I always tell them the same thing look what most the third or fucking steady the second I talk about ancient history bitch I'm not talking about modern politics. That's not what I'm doing It's not and I'm certainly not gonna endorse somebody on my platform as a matter of fact Why do you care what Beyonce says about this?

Why do you care about any of these fuck these people aren't political analysts? Why do you care that much? Why are you calling it my ass about? Oh, yeah, but you know, you got the people wants People want us to all of you towing a certain it's funny I swear to God what's like the whole country's got like probably a third of us are little hitlers a whole world would be better If everybody just like me it's like fucking crazy They think that the open-minded compassion ones.

It's really weird It's just the nature of the tribal world that we're living in right now And it's so divided and this is one of the giant problems of social media And I think it's great that everyone has an opinion and I think it's great that everyone gets an expression opinion It doesn't mean that you should listen it doesn't mean you should absorb it It doesn't mean that it's a valid opinion You'll find the valid opinions But you have to sort through the bad ones and this is how it's always going to be is always going to be that have people have a take on it That you've fiercely disagree with people have the least charitable view of this person or this idea or this thing You're always going to have a spectrum of ideas and you have to allow it That's how it is and you have to counter that with a better perspective That's it and if you're coming at it from you want to silence and destroy everyone who disagrees with you Especially on something as complex as ancient history like that seems like you're doing a bad thing That seems like you're denying the resource of all these obsessed people Yeah, I completely agree with you as a matter of fact I'm getting something wrong like yeah, have a conversation with those people and explain why they're getting something wrong But but be good faith about it the society for American archaeologists original bylaws their very first law was Their intention was to cultivate a better relationship between interested amateurs and professional archaeologists and to offer help when requested To those interested amateurs they're doing either one of those things right now number one They are pissing all over the relationship between people that are interested amateurs and the professional archaeologists They can't even talk to each other anymore And it's not you think that's also a little bit of jealousy because these interested amateurs have all sudden They've come to the forefront and they're making money off of it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah I mean it's when we found out that I had supporters he lost his shit people paying money for them my fucking guy So silly but it's also like just YouTube revenue guys like Ben Van Kirkwicks videos get millions of views Yeah, like there's there's real money in it and they're not making money. No, not like that.

No, you gotta be pissed I'm sure that's but the other thing I get in that bylaws it says to offer help when requested dangerous today But when's the last time Graham Hancock asked one of these cock suckers with opinion? You know, I just they give him the help whether he wants it or not They've completely lost the plot even though it's the problem is the way they frame it like when they were talking about his Netflix show being One of the most dangerous shows on television How is it dangerous to talk about evidence of a law civilization? That's seems insane there there egos are at the four You have you ever read that letter from that to that? They wrote to that yes, okay, they had three problems right and they list them one two three now You would assume these are professional archaeologists and they're talking about Graham Hancock You're just you know number one is he got a bunch of shit wrong right?

No number one is he talks shit about archaeologists And he doesn't listen to us that was number one. It was they couldn't even hide their ego in the fucking list It's like Also, not true. They're actually children. I swear to fucking guy also not true.

Yeah, he listens Oh, dude, he puts them on the differences. He doesn't want to deal with the guy If you're gonna come in and just poop who everything and say no, that's not true. No, that's not true. No, that's not true Well, then yeah, you're not gonna I'm not gonna put up with that shit.

You guys. How about actual conversation with me sure But if you just look at the other two problems the other two problems one wasn't he was wrong the other one was it? Promote twice the premise That's part about that is they say because this this theory that exactly is this theory dates to 1882 and Ignatius Donnelly blah blah blah Ignatius Donnelly was a left when he was liberal as fuck he was a feminist and an abolitionist, but he was also a white dude in the 1800s He's racist fuck by modern standards, right? Just like all the archaeologists were back then but they don't bother with that They pick him and they say this guy's the one that started the problem He's the one that created this theory but you go back 20 years and Augustus Le Plagnon and Some other dude I'm using his name right now But there were two French Americans that believed that the Maya had caught more the Atlanteans that the Maya had conquered the world It's a Maya were the master race if you're gonna look at it that way But they're gonna ignore that when they submit this stuff to Netflix because it doesn't just they wanted to make it sound like this Entire shit was created to support white supremacy when it was actually not but they so my point here is in a debate When it constantly revolves around you guys are lying about our past they lie about what happened 15 fucking minutes ago on the internet We can all see it and they wonder why we're like, huh?

You guys do why about the fucking boneheads? Sorry, so this this guy what was his theory the first guy that is problematic even though he's a liberal and a feminist Oh, well, he believes that it is white supremacist. He believes that that's three biblical races You know the word of that like Noah's three kids Sam has the Semitic race the Hamite race was the Africans and then the other one ended up being the Arians It was the white people and These three biblical races have biblical racism. They call it.

It's been like a thing for thousand years But he just clung to that idea that it was basically these races of after post Noah and all this so like you know The story was Noah like he got drunk afterwards. No, oh, could you pull this up to me? No after it's all done though It gets all drunk and he's like later on naked and one of his sons laughs at him and one of them doesn't so like he curses The lowest of them and he praises the highest and when you see the Bible verse It's like you're gonna be the servants to this one and he can sleep in your tent whenever he wants and you can see why this was used to promote Racial superiority That's where it came from so if they really wanted to they could have been saying the Bible created racism and that was a problem But it's also very silly to connect the idea of ancient civilizations to one person. That's so silly It's so silly when you're talking about evidence all over the world.

We're talking about ballback. We're talking about the Maya We're talking about the Egyptians. We're talking all over the world and you're gonna connect it to white supremacy Isn't it more plausible that we don't know what happened just a little bit I mean, but you gotta understand these guys are the ones that follow like I I break your rules So I argue with the people in the trenches right and the guys that follow flint dibble they'll all the time They'll make fun of you You believe in law civilizations and not my answer is not do you think we found every civilization? Oh, no, so you're just on around stupid shit Just talking crap idea that there'd be evidence left over other than the stuff that we've already found like what are you looking for?

That's a hundred thousand years old. It doesn't mean that there wasn't something going on a hundred thousand years ago And it seems like there was definitely something going on at least 12,000 years ago So that fucks up our whole timeline Oh, yeah, and they want to still attribute that to hunter-gatherers just for convenience The idea that they go back to teppy structures were made by hunter-gatherers like why would they do that? Yeah, how did they do that? How come they didn't make houses, but they made that stuff.

Yeah, how come well? It's that's a tough one, man. You know what they're too. They're looking at you know car on tippy They're actually talking about covering that again like you did it quickly.

Which is fuck I don't know if you know megalithomania a human he's he's he's there not a lot of people that I would mention on your show But he's definitely one of these he's he's a badass he's been doing this forever and he's doing all this art You're strong and you work out there on tepa and they're covering it. They're getting ready to cover it. He's just going Why are they covering it well claiming is to protect the tourism to protect the site and all this? That's it.

I don't know it might well be it. I do know that's it protect the site though It's stone right yeah, I mean honestly Honestly, it gets weird when you look at the third world because or poor countries like that because you know My iPhone could feed a family over there for a month So it's like these guys are gonna do they got a different set of priorities than us right so Wouldn't you think that more things getting exposed would equal more tourism which would equal more revenue? Yes and no I did a video well back about Zahi Hulwas being a heel like a wrestling heel Deliberate I'm 100% on this really oh yeah, well, I'm not saying that he doesn't do shady shit I'm saying that he plays the villain Give you some examples. There's a clip of him after shortly after Arab Spring.

He's talking about how to increase tourism He has two things there's one you don't want tourists from any old country you want Japanese Americans Chinese Germans You don't want the rest you want people to come in and change your world second thing is doesn't matter What's happening in Egypt those new age people they come Doesn't matter if it's Arab Spring doesn't matter if tourism's down by 40% those new age people they come He's so then did I find something? Yes, I found it. No, I didn't. No, I didn't.

Yes. I did. No, I did it. No, I did it Yes, I did it's you're coming investigate coming investigate come and look come and see for yourself Come and pop into those little holes and look for yourself Well, look at the place that I told you there was nothing I think honestly that's his whole Reason that he's playing it to the hill and I think Lee Claire's doing the same thing right now if you watch Lee Claire on I don't know that Lee Claire's the archaeologist in charge of go back like type of he's a big dude down there And if you look at him on Twitter, he's doing the exact same thing.

He's constantly arguing I actually block the guy don't block many scientists, but I don't constantly antagonistic towards me He was every day I wake up and more talking shit about me just Pissing everybody off and the whole point in my opinion is to make it where people want to come and look at what you're high If something's being hidden you have to have a villain hiding it right give me a touchstone So I'm like what the fuck is all you want think about what is all he was hiding? Is that a crazy statement to make no, it's not and I think he cultivated that I think that's an image that he made to increase towards revenue So you think he created this character to make it so that people want to come back against him and then go there and see and look around spend money Really? I don't think it's the whole thing. He went a little too tin foil I think it's a little more simple than that I think he's been in control of the narrative there for a long time and there's also some weird stuff with things missing Oh, no, I'm not saying that he didn't steal stuff the weird stuff with things missing It's like you would want to really control the narrative if like skeletons that you reported discovering then you say there's no skeletons Right isn't there one of those and one of the sarcophagus is yeah, Jimmy was hammering away at that one There was an original story from like the 80s that they found skeleton and they just No, no skeleton And the problem is what we're talking about before that there are wealthy people that will pay you an enormous amount of money for the skeleton So if you got some dude, you know, he's got Saudi Arabian money and he's like, you know, it'd be dope I want a fucking Egyptian mummy in my house, you know, and people had them.

I mean this was a thing that people were eating them What he joins that he's like what the fuck pull it up now People would have these mummy unwrapping parties at their homes These very wealthy people and they would eat the mummies. I bet you a lot of those elongated skulls ended up in similar I know like who's house how many houses? Who are these people? Like how does no one tell on them?

I don't know but I mean, you know, you know, five years ago. I would have said, you know, I don't know about all this When you get an island, you're like, what would you do? Somebody gave you an elongated skull. Would you give it to me?

See him? Like what would you do? Like if somebody gave you one of those really dope Peruvian skulls that are crazy without the sagittal suture You're looking at the enormous brain capacity the size of the head like what the size of the eye sockets I had a scientist after scientist finger fucking that thing till we got somewhere Right, but would you bring it somewhere where other people could see it? Would you allow the scientist to take control of it and to take hold of it?

Because this is my friend John Reeves up in Alaska, you know, he's had some real issues with that where they'll take bones and then they'll go up. Nope. Never getting him back. Never getting him back.

He's a little bit sharper. Yeah, and he won't eat. Well, this was before his time. But yeah, they did that.

Was that the American Museum in Natural History? Is that it? So the thing he does now is like, if you want to do work on these bones, you got to come to Alaska. And he built a whole scientific research building.

And that makes sense. Yeah, he's like, I don't trust any motherfuckers. Hell, you know, where the bad guy battery is right now, don't you? Where?

Nobody knows. It was grabbed by alphabet boys at the beginning of the 2000s. Well, we saw which alphabet boys are. But which one?

I'm not sure. Might be one we don't even know about all I know is it. I'm just gonna say I doubt that the soldier that went in there had decided he wanted that thing for himself, right? But I speak another bag that I've got a cool little theory on that.

I don't know if you ever seen that But I don't think it was for electricity I think it was to separate metal if you were to use for the electrolyte if you were to take mine run off that had like golden Silver and copper and iron and nickel and magnet all that bullshit you put it in that thing after a while that exact sell that We had the copper would build would have a buildup of gold copper and silver all the other shit would go to the bottom So you could I think it was a way for them to like separate and I think it's a discovery This would be super easy drop a copper coin and a metal nail into a puddle of that and come back in two days You can see the buildup of gold on that coin And so this explains why inside of the thing like there's no residue at all Which is one of the reasons they say it didn't happen. They were harvesting the residue is my in my opinion And this is why you couldn't have trace amounts even if you're a harvist now That's where it would be nice to test it now. It hasn't been looked at in a long time You know hasn't been hard hasn't been tested for anything and where is it? It's gone.

It's in somebody it's right next to those skulls and those mummies. It's on some dude's shelf that will really yes The picture of the street mummy seller in 1875 Jesus Christ So this article on big thing was saying that this was so popular from 1200 to about 18th Or started 12th century 18th century that they kind of ran out of mummies. Yeah Yeah, and imagine you could fly over there and pick up a mummy. Well, that's before these parties were even happening Magic happens in the corner over there.

Now. We thought it was medicine. Yeah, yeah I'm gonna about this once before but it's where these these this fit exists all over the place And I wonder if I would have been better than Kufus. So a lot 99 apothecary antiques right up there up left.

Yeah, what? Look at that. It's a pothicary. So this is like medicine mummy.

Yeah, so it's like mummy juice This article gets fucking gross. Mummy powder you sprinkled on your stage They were so meant they were so popular for a long time. They disappeared kind of it's hard to get them so you started forging How dark and then people bought all the dead bodies not all doctors thought dry old mummies made the best medicine some doctors We the fresh meat and blood had a vitality the long dead latch guys once the island the polling was bringing them back And then they would have some parties quote unquote parties But that was just still like they were doing like research almost if you could say like some medicine research And that didn't last like 30 years of that and then they just started having actual parties to show how rich you would Pause right here 1834 the surgeon Thomas Pettigrew unwrapped a mummy the royal college of surgeons in his time Autospeaks and operations took place in public and this unwrapping was just another public medical event soon now soon even the pretense of medical research was lost By now mummies were no longer medicinal, but thrilling a dinner host who can entertain an audience while unwrapping was rich enough to own an actual Mummy the thrill of seeing dried flesh and bones appearing as bandages came off meant people flocked to these unwrappings Whether in a private home or the theater of a learned society strong drink meant audiences were loud and appreciative And then at some point they tried to say like you were getting cursed by doing this Oh sure, but I wasn't the people that filed to come and do them they all died That's what this comes up with next is to in common. Yeah sudden death of Lord.

Yeah on our run. Mm-hmm Well, I mean they can understand what people would think that to I mean you're going around it not just a filing the grave And you eat the motherfucker come on. Oh, it might be something to occur like that. Oh, yeah Especially if you believe it that's the problem.

That's how I think voodoo really works If you really believe that someone could put a hex on you like oh, no, I was joking with this hippie girl into donna about that She was telling me about practical magic. Look at this today the black market of antiquities smuggling including mummies is worth about three billion dollars So today the black market right now three billion a year a year a year. Yeah, that's a lot Yeah, that's a fortune that's a fortune and just in shit that should be in a museum three billion a year Yeah, it just makes sense when you think see people that are just fucking insane and they're rich and they just want a thing that No, that's like the whole thing about like rhino horn right they want to drink rhino horn tea because nobody could get it because it's illegal Yep, you gotta talk about the rock fellas earlier in a there's a museum started in Jerusalem or their Rockefeller archaeological museum They had 60,000 artifacts dating back to two million years ago including a Reported hundred thousand year old skeleton almost complete damn. Whoa, what happened?

They also another one that was sixty five hundred years old That a while ago is being reported as a noa This is where the disease these girls were for a while until they were taken over and then moved to and the Dead Sea Scrolls a Different museum now that Israel has been officially formed because they were there when it wasn't actually Officially through I guess Wow, and there's a copper scroll. I just stumbled across I didn't know about that was moved to Amman and it's not part of the Jordan Museum Wow, what's that one like click on that looks oh? Then that was part of the Dead Sea Scrolls. It was made out of copper whoa, but that's a replica Well, that part is probably I guess but yes, it was found in cave three mm where everything else written in a parchment This was written on metal.

Holy shit That's insane copper mixed with about 1% 10 although no metallic copper remained in the strips The action the centuries had been to convert the metal into brittle oxide unlike the others It's not a literary work But a list of 64 places where various items of gold and silver were buried or hidden not a story as a treasure map Wow a treasure map written on copper and a day when copper was a treasure Wow And this is a facsimile is now on display. There's got to be so much We're missing so much. We're missing so much buried stuff so much like just think of sub-Saharan Africa used to be lush and green Like what is under there? What's under there?

Yeah, that's you dead on exactly all across there's so many places in the world That are that way if you ask me that's like like Easter Island When the sea levels were lower and that thing was a lot bigger and it was part of a series of islands that jump from one to the next You know, you know what? Nables the world are right what navels of the world like a navel. Yeah, like a world like a drizzle the world tree right like Next to the underworld's here and heavens this idea is super common through it Cusco had one the wailing wall is one you're gonna kiss the wall. That's good.

That's a that's a world naval These are always the Oracle of delhi world naval. These are always Centers of the society rights Jerusalem delhi Cusco except for there's one at Easter Island the far-flung corner of the Polynesian Empire Has a world naval but if you lower the sea levels and look at that as a string of islands all the sudden it is the center of the Empire So I really like to answer an area out of all the places on the planet I think Easter Island has the most that if we were to because it's been dug at the least and has a lot there still I mean it's been looted hard, but it hasn't been looted like Rome has been or Egypt has been not even close and I think that I think Honestly, there's going to be a lot more there the more that we look I think Unfortunately stuff happens too quick. We find the stuff and two days later it becomes like the tritactyl I mean two days later it becomes a new story half the world like you say everything's all polarized now You can't even pick and choose your fucking scientist when it comes to medicine nowadays Joe It's completely polarized so when it comes to like archeology fucking who do you want? What side of the table do you want you'll find somebody with credentials are close enough to get in line with you And so I was talking to a friend of mine about the South American stuff I said the cartels are a huge problem because they realize this three billion dollar thing Of selling these antiquities and they're selling stuff Lupo Luke told me Luke caberns he told me that he's he witnessed that when he was down that Oh really?

Places he went that he couldn't go into because there were guys with guns on front Oh wow, so they realized like hey, someone's gonna give me five million dollars for this head Yeah, that's and so we again. We lose we lose everything we lose all the context How are they not losing those mummified tritactyl skeletons? Really sure that's a good question. You know, I would imagine those are soup match.

We have one of those sitting on the table right here We pretty cool. Well, that would be pretty cool. I want to make sure you have to pay for one of those Well To that part of the world you might get with 250 grand like it's at those codices But Mexican government like I said, they bought those little codices pretty cheap man 250 grand a lot But it ain't a lot when you're talking about like when I said that to Matt Bell if you know who Matt Bell is Oh, he was like that's nothing. Well, of course to him.

It's nothing But immediately the guy that has a money 250 grand right fucking put that on my shelf frame that bitch Meanwhile, he got a probably auction that it was a family was afraid to you And honestly that family been holding it for like 500 years and they don't honestly I bet they were afraid I Honest the way things go. I don't know for sure But I wouldn't be surprised if there was some some strong army that went on there like you can either get paid for it Just like when the Bobby you want paid off for this or you want beat on the head right? It's just you wonder how much is lost like the burning of the library of Alexandria all these different instances throughout history The burning of the codices For sale yeah, there's tons of interesting stuff here right the question is how do you know if it's authentic that's a huge Because there's a lot of this stuff. It's counterfeit Well, that's dope.

Yeah, man. It's just the provenance of it. So this one came from an archeologist from 1938 How much does that cost? Should we get one?

You I would you get cursed? No, I've that's well says 4850 dollars I better be able to drive it around or smoke it won't be some actually Egyptian bronze cobra somebody bought that for 2000 bucks. Wow. I had a card right now Wow Cuz sick.

I was always wrong. How old is it? 664 to 30 BCE Wow private New York City Egyptologist collection private New York City. Yeah, the provenance is weird on all these it's coming through everything's coming from different places Yeah, it's interesting because that's not that expensive for what it is you got a piece of Egyptian history Yeah, well the provenance things kind of a big deal if the provenance on them solid and it's after certain date You can't sell someone with that image looks like so how come you how come this person can sell this?

Yeah, because the provenance is gonna come before that date like that. They're gonna have been been found before that date It's like legally acquired. Yes. Mmm.

It wasn't legally acquired. I bet they'd they get you so the laws are probably much stricter now Yeah, they're acquired it Yeah, there's like it's kind of like assault rifles where there's like a time when you can it's okay to a bottom But if you bought it after that date you can't have it or like pre-ban ivory. Thank you Yes, I'm kind of saying it's like if you got if you had this artifact on your family We're not gonna go right in the Rockefeller shelves. Well, you know the rest of your fuckers can't have any new ones You get a gold-wing deity pendant for 67 grand gold shaman.

Yo Bro What's that from I guess we say one can't top of this I'd like to do on the side why does it say price on request? Maybe that's a estimated here So when it says gold standing shaman is that actual gold made out of gold? There it is 89% gold. Why?

You can just buy that Well, look how dope he looks look at the image on the side go this side view the other one Well, it's hollow. I'm asking yeah, I can't ask you all the way a hundred pounds. Yeah, look at that What a sick looking thing show me the front facing view again That is wild man, and how old is this supposed to be fuck? That's cool That would bring you good luck put that on your desk Monkey look Some nipples.

Oh, does he oh when I was looking at the things hang around? I hope he doesn't have trophy skulls. Yeah, it's hands looks like those are cups, but their faces They do look like heads does he have two heads in his hands. He's got way more than five fingers Yeah, seven or maybe even eight if he's got them again, you can meet that guy three heads a DM D He's out there like you show me the the face-forward version at the top this one's been an Alabama for a while said Crazy I'm sorry now.

What is it again? I was trying to look up 1528 That's very interesting hundred you can put it on a chain ways 148 grams What's that in a pound? We'd math now We'd math okay, but it's 128 grams in pounds. Yeah point to eight pounds Just makes it wonder like what were they trying to what is that?

What is that guy is that a guy you see when you trip because it seems like it especially is all gold It seems like something you would see if you're tripping. Yeah a lot of that stuff See a lot of it gets really difficult for me because then I wonder about like I write pornography And it's like you know somebody could look at something like that belt and be like I wonder what the symbolism is behind that Bell at the end of the day. It's like no symbolism. It's just it looks cool or a mascot for a team, you know Exactly.

Why is everybody worshipping the spuds McKenzie right? Why's everybody making the bull horns of the UT game? Yeah, yeah, but but but some of these things, you know are clearly You know religious and spiritual and test the time like them There's a lot of the honoring of people with deformations down there went for thousands of years I mean this went from the old Mac all the way up till the time that the Spaniards show up I think what's really fascinating is there's so many things that point to South America So many things that point particularly to Peru so many things when you look at the Megalithic architecture especially the oldest stuff the weird crazy shapes And then you also look at the elongated heads and then you also look at the artwork that you can only see from the sky and Like how many of these fucking things do you have to see before you went? What was going on here?

You should look at some of their textiles that they made in progress like I showed that little monkey thing Those guys were so good if you don't mind pulling up a picture of Peracas textiles Maybe they were so fucking amazing that these were like when I first read about them I was like man and then I looked at some pictures and these are like their other world These just think that these things were being made over a thousand years ago 2000 years ago when you when you see them They are there a bunch of little people with just feathers pointed to one side like they're in motion dancing shit Like pick that like that one you're on right now. Jamie's a great one No, the that yellow when you were hovering over the ones with the people look at that's a textile look at that shit 2000 years old look at fucking how beautiful that is well made that again. You can see that if you trip. Yeah, okay It's very trippy right it is very psychedelic.

It's very psychedelic But then you consider that same culture was doing all these brain surgeries They were doing the lines on the ground. You're talking about there are modifying skulls They were building things they were and they had people the artisans like this this was a culture This was a full-blown civilization that was above and beyond anything that we give them credit to at this time I mean look at definitely DMT looking but also holy shit, man. Look at how artistic that is I know look at the little faces that are coming out of us whatever That boys have a bad trip just wild it is wild art and beautiful so beautiful And so like everything else in that culture they were just it just seemed to be so massively ahead of all their contemporaries Again, they had that symbol that peraca's conga-labours visible 12 miles out to sea And you could think about hopping down the coast looking for that you could think about guys from Easter Island looking for that from Polynesia looking for that We've got DNA that supports all that there's a genetic drift in both directions It looks like people went from Easter islands to Peru and then back is what it looks like according to the genetics and that was the big sign like welcome I think I mean again It's like here where we're mingling all even if it was just here is the guys from the islands and here's the guys from up north and here's It still it seems like a symbol of like a mixing to me like a convergence The DNA stuff again That's where I really all got me going on because it's just you pick your genetic deformation and you see it there Like it with a back of the skull. That's just to me.

It's like smoking guns Like why were they doing this? Well, here's a very solid real excellent and then think about like the evolutionary arms race This culture is working on bigger brains that can that has all the intelligence of this species and the ability to see and hear that this species has We're trying to get the best of both worlds and these guys aren't you're gonna get wiped out by us in a thousand Years five thousand ten revolutions gonna kill you off and prop these I think it happened all over the fucking world and peroccas It's just the last place that was still doing it But I think that that elongated school that's what we see it all over the world as soon as humans soon as homo sapiens and Archaic lineages with bigger brains than us on the back started mingling I think this was like a requirement this is all post younger drives impact to Right around that's like the oldest goals that we know over around 10,000 BC the oldest yes that we know over in the old We're just just post just right at the right right afterwards in China So it does the other part of the question is like if there was a cataclysmic event that wiped out a vast chunks of civilization How much was left? Look how much how much survived because it seemed like South America didn't get hit as hard as North America and parts of Europe in Asia Right in Africa was almost unscathed right right right right comparable at least according to the megaphon is right right which is so That gets real weird. It's like so okay There were those people down in South America fine and what happened was that where advanced civilization existed on earth in the only place Because advanced civilization these other places have been wiped out Yeah, that's honestly I think that that makes the most sense to me and what happened to them Well the real question well the Barakas people yeah, what happened before the what happened to the people that built these Megalithic structures what happened to the society that existed like was it just time?

Yeah, I think so like they still had you know by the time of the Spanish showing up the Inca were still doing those Trevinations of the skull so well if they were put 80% survival rate The Civil War was about 40% by the way like our Civil War doctors and Americans in the only Civil War our doctors were about it 40% But half is good as the ink at Joe and holes and heads and let somebody say I mean fuck dude And why were they drilling holes and heads same reason because it relieves pressure so like like I'm saying that they were doing it It's one of the reasons to relieve the pressure from the headache But if you just get it somebody hit you in the head hard enough you're gonna Swell up in the brain you got to relieve pressure so they drill a hole and get it out This was a yeah a lot of the musket balls that didn't kill a man out right would leave a water on the brain kind of thing So they got to do what they could to relieve the pressure. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's ugly when you I would not want to if I I would have shot in the Civil War battlefield knowing what I know now I'd say just fucking shoot me right here I'm gonna finish the job. So my question is like why don't we see people that live in Peru with larger heads in the long-term Skulls today probably because it's illegal to do it. Is that it?

Is it just a deformation thing or is it a deformation thing? You know manipulated thing on top of a granule deformation. Okay. Yeah, now if it was the partial natural cranial deformation I think eventually that would have been bred to be smaller and smaller and less of a pronounced issue as Those like most normal bones in the back that basically do the play and stuff I think that over time that that we would evolve more accommodating things for it But that it's still we still have people that have those gerrymall formations today You know that cats can whether from 2000 years ago people still have this issue But I think that over time, you know the ones that were too bad at it their brains are just too fucking big They're gonna die off and honestly I think that there was probably some of that inke type of clan warfare going on now That's just complete speculation But I mean there was something you know I don't know there was something about a thousand years ago that caused all the cliff dwellers and all that shit like there was None of these people lived in the cliff dwellings like 2000 years ago And then they all moved into the cliffs and they all stayed for like a hundred years and they came back out like there was some war going on You'd see a tribe of about 5,000 people would split up into a bunch of little bands of 500 or of 200 or at the most if the heal Equipped dwellings they say I had about 60 people that lived in 60 It's nothing and it came from a place about a thousand So you think they were trying to survive raiders?

I think that it was pretty clearly warfare and an interesting side note something I've never I went to the heal of quiff dwellings when I came through here last month I drove buddy of mine We drove through New Mexico and the big old oil fields of Texas and we stopped at the heal of quiff dwellings And so I looked them up afterwards to make my video about it and they redacted that the artifacts and shit or redact it looks like reading a fucking Epstein list emails It's just like black bar black bar black bar black bar and what am I looking for just what they found and this is just the people that lived in the Cliffs? Yeah, why would they redact? Archaeologists this is the peer-reviewed archaeology like the papers that they submitted afterwards They just because of what they found the explanation given is they redact information so that people don't go digging up shit Right, so they're like okay except for in the same paper It says we didn't dig here and we think there's artifacts here a few different times They're redacting the things that they found and the people that took and on some occasions where they were found It's and it's not the only thing in South in the Southwest. It's that way the more I look I see it's fairly common why do you think they're doing that they're fine and so they don't want people to know Maybe they're selling on the black market would be the most obvious explanation But like the most mundane but when it becomes a ubiquitous problem Say the short answer is the same as why they cover up the show the Epstein list to cover it up Hi, there's something there.

They don't want you to know what for sure I don't know I can't read what you look at you even speculate What would it be trying to hide it could be nothing dwelling civilization? It could be nothing more than out of place artifact it could be an out of place art of how so like we mean like what we consider the anti-kitter mechanism To be something that's more advanced for its time So you know they just found something that say they don't think that these guys could work iron and they found an iron arrow That wasn't a trade deck piece. It was pre-Columbian. Do you think they would redact that?

I don't know, but I know they redacted a lot But is a possible explanation that they just redacted where these things were so that people wouldn't go back to the area and it would be if they didn't have so much of the of the stuff that was Like you had to expect like it'll say we went to this site And we found a black bar and then we went to this site and we found black bar So and so took black bar and then it'll be another site that says at this site We thought there would be some artifacts that we haven't dug yet But why is it that site not black bar? That's the one that's I'm at all of them That's the one I want to go to because that's the one you said there's no shit left to dig up Right, but that's the one according to their explanation That's the one they black bar, but they don't like bar that when they black so it honestly looks convoluted It looks like they're selling a false bill of goods with that I haven't what are the other possibilities the reason why they would redacted other than out of place artifacts The first one like honestly the most mundane is just to sell stuff That's a really cool fucking piece I'm gonna go sell it to Rockefeller and that could be it that could be it and that way they don't have to say what was there They redacted and then there's no need to explain where it went. That's right that makes more sense That makes the most sense. It's got money and straight mundane and yeah, and people love those things, but it's become And like I say it's all over the Southwest It's not just one or two sites I just stumbled onto it because I was looking up the he looked like what happened to have been there And that's where I mean I haven't dug into it enough to put it all together But it's you know when I was here last time the cover up stuff was something I was a whole lot less like I was a whole lot less accepting of a top-down kind of cover-up thing But the skull stuff has honestly got me where it's just like dude There's too much of this information that disappears as I use it I put it link it in the video in two weeks later.

I can't fucking find it again It's like at a certain point becomes quite obvious that something's being hidden when the maps change over a hundred years And we lose information you get on Google and ask for the island of new We elongated school and it'll tell you never happened but then you can bring up a bunch of expeditions of people that had them from it It's constant. It's a constant the information is just not easily accessible. It's hidden. It's covered up And I don't know why hundred percent don't know why I've got some suspicions I think some of it probably has to do with like people's belief systems as to where we came from you know like Give me an example like archaeology like science in general fought against the idea of gradualism and Catastrophism depending on in the early days of science.

It was out to prove the Bible So things like erosion weren't what was looked at it was things like floods and the walls of Jericho collapsing But then the evolution and then geology at the same time it's really slow gradual so became gradualism was the rule today And I shit you not these two did not become Melded together in what they call punctuated equilibrium until 1980 with the discovery of the KT impact disaster the whole six-loop crater when they accepted that The scientific community finally figured out what a fucking five-year-old could tell you that looked out the window every day sometimes Things happened slowly and gradually other times things happen catastrophically and fast It took science a hundred years to wrap its fucking head around that because a preconceived idea is based on the Bible where we came from So I wouldn't be surprised at all if that same kind of psychology was here evolution bullshit This proves who knows but it seems like the psychology side of it seems most likely to me that there is Some all underlying reason that they just pushing a narrative and it just flies in the face of it But again, that's total speculation on my part one of the weirdest aspects of this whole UAP thing was that there was supposed Meetings with pastors where they were talking about some imminent disclosure that was going to be very disturbing to some of their people and the speculation was that it was some sort of evidence of human engineering like that human beings have been genetically engineered and that religion itself had been Made by extraterrestrials in order to play Kate mankind and keep everybody to calm and together Sure, I mean it's interesting stories, but but the weirdest one like all the religion stuff made by aliens seems goofy people made by alien seems less goofy It seems like something we would do if you went to another planet and you found monkeys and you said well Let's take these monkeys and add a little do a little this do a little that I mean that if there's evidence that people were doing that in Peru If that's real we know that the Nazis were eugenics. We know that that's a concept that people that people do things like that We know that we engage in genetic engineering of animals We know that we brought back the dire wolf like there's there's a lot of weird stuff that we do now imagine something Infinitely more advanced than us that finds us it goes a lot of potential in these jeans But a little cut a hundred million years out of the fucking evolutionary biological process Let's just fucking ramp these motherfuckers up right quick Go to the Zacharias ditch and how to route and make them lust for gold and silver and then every so often we'll just come back Raid Fort Knox call it a day. It's also the book of Enoch. Yeah, it's really interesting There's a lot of these things that do seem to line up with it It's you know the ancient alien stuff is super weird It is like I you know, it's honestly using the same kind of thinking that you were just using on the black bars It's like it's always the aliens are always the last thing I want to pause it because it's last because it's just the most unlikely like you and me different A.D.

You guys David children So I was in his living room talking with him about it and he couldn't quite get where my brain is on this because I'm skeptical But not I guess and I told him basically I said look I like this if you walked into the bathroom right now You came back in here and your wallet was missing now I could tell you that a dog came in here and grabbed your wallet round the door with it I could tell you an alien came in here and grabbed your wallet round the door with it But you're gonna think that I fucking did it and that doesn't mean there's no aliens It doesn't mean there's no dogs it just means that we all know what's most likely and we really use that that it's just like with the black bars It's like yeah, maybe it's an out-of-place artifact or maybe he's just selling it to some fucking cocksucker And so it's all that's where I always I'm not opposed to the idea of ancient aliens But you got to get me there but but then on the flip side like what you said about them Changing us I mean you could take that even to the instagram you look at like you've seen the idea that the pyramids were chemical purification plants The Atlantic and right one of the things that he says jokingly But you'll say you know if an alien race came here and you were trying to set up shop one of the first things you would do It'd be set up ways to like make chemicals and make make the stuff that you need to make your society And you would use what was local and what was available that does does jive right doesn't make sense So there's always I mean, I'm not completely opposed the ideas But there's some things that the Occam's razor is a lot sharper on some things than others I guess you put it but it you know I agree But I think the most complexing most perplexing part about the pyramids is just that they exist at all Agree, but they exist at all and that they're 4500 years old at least like it's it doesn't make sense Not even really it just doesn't make sense It doesn't make sense that something that is so involved and so massive and so complex and clearly has a tremendous amount of planning and geometry understanding of so many different aspects of Construction that we have no idea how they accomplished it. There's just too many too many things that line up with that where you just go What is going on like isn't it possible that we're missing something? Absolutely. We're definitely missing something with the pyramids I mean this is you know, they think it was 28 years It was a great pyramid was built in 28 based on based on written records and their assumptions that Her own it is was right when he wrote about that part They just disregard the rest what you wrote about that mazes a car fuck that what?

28 year pyramid yeah, and I so I've told so many archaeologists why don't you go build a fucking fire pit your backyard was cinderblox and get back to me on that 28 years it's like you guys have you don't own a fucking toolbell. Well, there is no way well You could have it and you'd have all these teams of people doing all this manions of stones I worked as a construction I worked in construction for a long time and this is the one in China architects and engineers fuck shit up Yeah, yes nuts. I saw this one recently, but the thing I thought was very strange They said it was abandoned in like the 14th century the Yang shankori these nubs are on this thing Talk about the nubs being on Different pieces everywhere over the world they were saying that they had a they must have clearly had a plan obviously when they were starting to make it So the nubs were cut on purpose, but they then abandoned it because they figured that they were they made them too big to move They had good planning, but then they also bad planning so you think the nubs were involved in the lifting and maneuvering of these things I would not have that one I mean that would have to be the plan I would say if that's why they were purposely here and they're all over it that one looks like it's carved right into the ground Though right into the rock that doesn't look like a rock that was placed there. I might be wrong This is still like they had to move these never got moved yeah, right So it's but it's a part of a quarry where things did get moved right?

That's what's really crazy like look at that gap if you go back to that last picture that you just had look at the gap between those two stones I'll imagine that that was a individual piece of stone that was removed from that gap and somehow play somewhere And again how long ago and who fucking did it who did it? And how'd you do it? How'd you do that? What are you using yes, and the say that's not a mystery is fucking nuts I understand why they want to get rid of the side of the mystery to begin with look at how that looks That looks like someone cut that out Well, I mean they started to but with what right but look how big it is look how big the slab is that's next to that structure the one above it The blood with yeah that thing look how big that is like was that cut out?

It looks like it was cut out I think a little carving inside of it. Yeah, there's a similar. I've got a map I remember where it was my head, but it looks like it's floating I think it's in China too where it looks like this but it was put on top of like this yes very small little bit of water I know what you're talking about. It's a fortress or something.

Yeah, I don't want to sidetrack what I'm gonna I was looking at this elongated head thing it was going on in France up until World War one And why I'm finding a very interesting thing well in the end it's all France well, so they were yeah They were fashion but baby bonnets were turned to the left and why baby bonnets were tied on the baby's heads They did it a little bit of fashion a little bit for protection But there's something here I kind of stumbled across on and I'm like if you go back further in history could make more sense They're protecting them from spirits and if you know if you protect if you tie it enough nothing's getting in there Oh boy, and that reshaped the head and it was a Look at that portrait. Oh god purpose three shaped ahead, but that's just what happened You know like look at that baby like I said eyes bulging out like a mouse call oh fuck man Yeah, it might have been a protection to just like keep your kid for dying for you know all sorts of reasons back then if They thought something would get into their head to kill them too. They probably would do anything they could protect them Yeah, now you can't increase the capacity. Yeah, it didn't increase capacity as well saying right that's what they say it that wins I mean could you well?

I don't know I don't know I just stretch it honestly don't know I Was kind of frustrating is because it's again you get you can pick your expert there's people that will say these you'll only get his goals have a higher capacity there's people that say they don't and Since you can't go put your fingers on them Fucking pick your expert here. We are again right back row. You started you pick what's your opinion? That's not the truth my friend and welcome to 2026 It's so interesting particularly Peru I mean when you just all the different things that point to a spectacularly odd society.

Oh man. Yeah, and you just go What was it like man? What was what was reality for them? Why did they make those Nazca lines?

Why did they make those beautiful drawings that you can only see from the sky? Pacific Northwest has some shit that's pretty wild there was Mount coffin, which is a place I told you where they saw those 3000 burials in the early 1900s a Portland star and cement company bought Mount coffin and the pictures from before are it's like a Bissalt formation and it looks partially modified I've got three pictures over there Jamie if you don't mind the first one was just Mount coffin It's like some people I think says basalt or something But there's like some people on it and the Portland Star and gravel company bought it and they minded all the way They thought it was the American Revolution tried to buy it the Illuminati dude. It was all like crazy Yeah, that's that's a picture of it there. There's a picture of a bunch of people standing on I think might be the next one over It's like a bunch of dude standing on this basalt formations a skinnier pick Sorry, but you can kind of see there where it might be artificially modified the locals say there was all kinds of cool treasure in there Now the dude that built long view are a long raw long Built long view is shape of a pyramid the floor plan of long Not only is it got a pyramid floor plan It's actually got a little little from the center going out like a little cul-de-sac that goes out like it's got the focal star from the pyramid coming I mean it's fucking crazy the floor plan of long view if you just But the streets were paved the four main pyramid arcs were paved with the gravel that came from that mountain Is this this the town is like a good I see some images?

19 I'm trying to I got a restart, okay But yeah, the the guy it was pretty nuts the guy was like he was member of the three mason stuff and They couldn't buy the mountain they wouldn't sell it to him But when they he bought the gravel he had the roads paved in these weird octagons or hexagons instead of Yeah, like a floor plan you can see like that see the floor from the center like if you get a and Oh weird, and there's a straight top down view you can see I'm sorry But you can see there we go getting better Yeah Yeah, just just map of long view Washington that picture there disruption mount coffins Yeah, that's the one there that's got all these people on stuff and they look like the basalt might have been partially made up partially Modified they're not a hundred percent right but there were a lot of rumors about treasures being pulled out of that while they were turning it down but by the time that this was all being done there were already laws against destroying Native American mounds and sites and stuff so Real this guy long was a lumber bearing he comes out there and And wants to build up a lumber mill and stuff and all this crap so he builds a ton of long views So totally plans city and then he built all this goofy pyramid He's got there's a statue of him in the middle of town with a girl handing him a rose And she's holding a dozen roses and handing him the 13th which apparently is some sort of weird freemason shit I don't know all those other symbolism, but all kinds of goofy freemason symbolism, right? And yeah, you see like the towns laid out as a pyramid You see it to the right the center how it goes out to that little circle on the side like it's this was They've cut off the one line since then be no longer do they honor long views of longs original plan They've actually had a statue of him that we used to face the rising sun They've relocated it that town was fucking weird man, and they went almost like they're trying to fight his mojo or something But that's what he did when he stole the Indians mojo. This was our burial mound This is where they found their sacred fuck all that pay my streets with it make that my mojo and then somebody else is in there now going Yeah, fuck your mojo. It's it's weird and I don't need to believe in all the spiritual stuff But you know HP Lovecraft has a great quote about that He says I don't need to believe in Santa Claus to know that people exchange gifts on December 25th I can still follow your craziness even if I'm not crazy.

Okay, so in this case they seem to be up to fucking some crazy shit over there fight, but it just happens to be where biggest concentration of elongated schools in history where Wow, and if history doesn't mean when I say this shit all the archaeology Oh, there's no proof of a but simple math to be buried here You had to be a noble to be a noble your school had to be modified 3000 burials are reported 3000 elongated schools not complicated here not tricky, but they'll are you with this to the end? Oh, yeah, no What's talking about okay? What is your take on the Grand Canyon? Hmm?

The Grand Canyon stuff is really weird fucking cage cave and shit Yes, that's again one of those things where it's like you know Two years ago I'd been like it probably is Native American stuff at this point now I joke the last one of these quest for ancient civilizations that we had I joke on stage when they asked They were talking about different things that I said that the next time that we have some 9-11 type of shit and all the off That boys run back east off to the Green Canyon is time boys. Well right now you can't go into the area Yeah, because all the off-board restricted. Yeah, there's a part of the Grand Canyon that's restricted because it's air quote too dangerous Or it's a Native American sacred site depending on who you ask. You haven't heard that part.

Well, yeah That's been the explanation that I usually see. Oh, that's a Native American secret. Did they claim it sacred? I don't imagine the whole thing is safe you would think when you think that they were like that's not stopped us I'm gonna say all the sudden we give a fuck away about Rushmore But the fact right the fact that it happens to coincidentally be the place where this guy said he found a cave with Egyptian art in it Exactly.

That's where what year was that? Oh, I want to say 1920 1909, I'm sorry. Let's see what is uh, his report. Yeah, of course.

There's a bell No, we're though there were hoaxes back then. Oh, yeah There are a bunch of hoaxes but there were contests to try to get your fucking hoax reported the most Oh, yeah, I'm sure there's hoaxes the Grand Canyon hoax though the thing that's weird to me is that you can't go there Oh, yeah, 1909 newspaper story claiming a vast agent underground city complete with mummies copper tools hieroglyphs and Oriental in quotes or Egyptian style artifacts have been discovered inside the canyon overwhelmingly regarded as a period tall tale not an archaeological discovery in March 12 2009 Jeet ge concade, excuse me 1909 ge concade supposedly a lone explorer who had traveled the Colorado River from Green River, Wyoming to Yuma April 5th 1909 paper dramatically expanded the claim It's a concated found a nearly inaccessible cave citadel in the canyon that professor s a Jordan and the Smithsonian were investigating it The article described hundreds of rooms mummies and a crept copper and gold vessel strange writing a blue-to-like idol Granaries in space for up to 50,000 inhabitants wait what yeah, so the inhabitants may have originated in Egypt or somewhere in the Orient But now I do know that Jason guy and he's kind of a two-faced piece of crap So I wouldn't trust everything to be said if he saw something that flew in the face of his narrative He will not report it who was this guy that Jason Colavito guy. He's a professional debunker that's Basically, yeah, I If you ask Graham Hancock to list off the top 10 pieces of shit they argue with him He that's guys name is gonna come up. There's no known physical evidence no cave complex matching description excavated material field notes photographs maps accession records or peer-reviewed archaeological report the alleged Smithsonian personnel and expedition do not correspond to a documented Smithsonian project in the way the article claimed But is there a documented his Smithsonian project in the Grand Canyon?

Well to me to me this is like really simple This is the same as it's simple to figure out whether or not these skulls have more like capacity or not Just fucking let somebody go there if it's too dangerous or if it's a native get a native American archaeology team get some drones fucking investigate and close the door on it But let me ask you this if they really did find An immense cavern that could have 50,000 people living in it and they found Egyptian hieroglyphs and mummies and sarcophagus or whatever they have whatever they found Do you think they would hide that I that's a tough one honestly something don't you think that the people that discovered that would become famous? Oh, yeah, it would be a huge thing and archaeologists would want to get credit for it. Yes and no Like like let's put it this way say for instance. You found something that that that proved those tridactyl mummies were real Okay, you know you're gonna get pushback, right now say for instance you're a mainstream archaeologist your your whole job is is Reliance on going through the proper channels now.

I've seen what front did to me when I call him out as a liar You know how many people call me they put me in the same fucking campus madamavon ski now I've dead serious they call me total pseudo scientists They say that I believe in all kinds of crazy shit Was that person you just said madam blavatsky? Who's that she's one of the old likes that turn of the century during the like a hundred years ago when everybody was One of the called they're in a mesmerism era and stuff when all the people were seances and she was one of those And so she they put me in the same category, right? Um like the guy that I talked to about the metallurgy and the ice age is an ice core specialist flint crawled up his ass and got this dude to Retract what he said and stuff if you're a mainstream archaeologist and you fly a foul of these other guys you're liable to lose your job Yeah, like I was saying earlier It says it right in the Wikipedia thing if you posited earlier dating to the people in the Americas than this these guys were going to destroy your career I understand that but to get the military involved and to block off the Grand Canyon because there's an area that's too dangerous or It's an area that's sacred to native americans to me is a bit of a reach that you get the Pentagon involved and they send fucking Black Hawk helicopters circle the area and make sure that hikers aren't something's up there something's up there I mean it might be be nothing more than they got a military base sitting in there I mean dude in Sedona holy shit. I've never seen a UFO And I went I was in Sedona They there's a but they call secret mountain and they can't even these dudes hand me these night vision goggles And it was like you're seeing all these little things in the air and then it was like five lights come out from his cloud They move in your nation and they all disappeared together and I was like all this happens over secret mountain all the time like yeah Sedona's a weird place man.

It's a fucking weird and the people there are weird as fuck I have never seen so many hustlers that weren't hooked on meth in my fucking life Everybody there's got there everybody there's got a way to make 20 bucks here 20 bucks there But that's because it's more expensive to buy a torrent a home in Sedona that it is to rent property to rent business property on the main drag They can't get minimum wage people to work there. They it's 20 miles to the nearest town 15 miles in nearest town So like they have a real hard time. So don't is just kind of collapsing under its own way It's all new agey people right all new agey people and they're all trying to make a buck anyway So why the new agey people attracted to Sedona because of the because of the what do you call it? Yeah, the the reputation You know, it's funny that guy my my buddy robert.

He's organizing this whole thing that's gonna be at the al He's looking at Sedona for years and he tells me like a lot of these work to seize Like there was like three of them that were energy vortexes that were known about and then this woman comes through in the 80s or the 90s And she said she found a whole bunch more and he says it's really funny She's grossly overweight and that's why every one of the vortices she found is about five feet from my The three real ones throughout the sticks man or the desert Right next to my baggage you're being that's funny has anybody tried to find I know there's this one guy who went to the grand Candy got chased out, but he found something really weird there Yeah, there's just found a comment on the video that said this guy was actually hit by a drunk driver and he has some of the best videos Oh, yes, he's dead. No. Yeah, I used to watch this guy a lot of videos four million views in two years So you're a lot of people will use Google Earth and doing like hey check this out the motherfucker use Google Earth and then he'd go there And what did he find that's so baffle? I don't know if the fuck you magically whacked this guy because he found something Oh, that's happened before Oh, what did he find?

That's I don't know so is he in the area where you're not supposed to be I don't know that's I'm trying to stumble I'm going through all sorts of places real quick Also, we go if it wouldn't be two years later that we just found this amazing discovery people would have shared this every day on Twitter You know, yeah, right, but what is it? I don't look could be nothing. I don't like what is this? I don't know.

I don't know Where is that you found this? That's a cliff dwelling obviously, but that's in the Grand Canyon. Yeah, it's another picture. So it's not a discovery Right, so we know there were dwellings in the Grand Canyon the real question is that grand claim of something has 50,000 type in Grand Canyon hidden cave A thousand hidden caves although around 335 are officially recorded and most are strictly off limits to the public See that's that's why are those off limits of the public but other quick cliff dwelling places allow people What's that all sorts of reasons where they are?

Part of it's on native lands, right? Probably very dangerous to get to grand can save you yeah Well, it does get kind of weird when you look at like some of them illegal It says legal visits grand canyon caverns located off Route 66 near peach springs, Arizona The biggest largest dry caverns in the u.s. And offer public tours click on that Yeah, so just because it's not open to the public doesn't mean you can't go there You just have to ask for permission probably in some cases and just get a tour guide or something Yeah, but I think the area we're talking about is closed I don't I have to look at the mouth of the cholera It's at the mouth of the Colorado River Is where the arcade supposedly found his thing so like it right at the mouth of the Colorado River is where the grand canyon is like Supposed from what I understand is what you just can't go like on the side of the hill there I'm side of the cliff but I haven't tried going like I'm waiting again waiting for the next time till there's a national disaster Everybody runs back east because I you know living on the west coast I don't live far from Hanford I just a little ways but it's real clear like when world war two happened they're like We're gonna build this fucking crazy bomb the bite bowl the world up Let's put it all the way on the other side of the country from where we live over where all those cowboys and and hicks live And if we you know washing the glows in the dark well then 50 years later We got a bunch of blue-haired motherfuckers run out of Seattle so if you figure that one out as you will But they definitely you know they put all the poison over with us. That's how they plan to do it It's just the same with the desert right they don't pull that shit out in the desert Why do they test all the nukes in the desert instead of over somewhere near the east because they don't want that shit blowing in their backyard All those nice road islands.

I don't need radiate radiate Seattle Right, so damn yeah Hanford's crazy if you ever drive through there up a washer there's all these nuclear storage facility I wonder if someone has a reason why you can't go to that area that they could tell us about That's there unfortunately from what I've seen I mean, I'm I'm not as Jamie's pretty damn quick. So I'll get you know he might find something I haven't seen quickly but From what I've seen it's very much like he said she says this guy said there was stuff there They say there's nothing there They won't let you go there There was one guy that claims to have tried to go there and like she's supposedly had a video where like people stopped in before you got there But I watch it looked kind of like maybe They say that about secret mountain in Sedona they say that if you go walking around on secret mountain up in Sedona I eventually a park ranger will come up to you but he's a lot buffer and better arms and most park rangers are gonna meet and Joe Roman security. No, do you think there's maybe some sort of an alien base somewhere in the United States? If if there are aliens and they're actively working with governments at all then ours are the Russians and the Chinese would be the only ones they'd give a fuck About let's be honest.

There's not the rest of the countries or other sort of world all kind of just follows us the oils If you're an alien race that oils and oh look at those cute guys and they're cool But beyond that yeah, I think if I don't again, I'm pretty skeptical when it comes to alien stuff But if aliens are visiting earth Um, then yeah, I would have said if they're working with humans at all Then yeah, they're probably working with governments and when I say skeptical about the aliens It's really one of two things either we're so far away and technology so like a little where we're at now We're maybe a hundred years from actually some sort of interstellar travel and we're also gonna be 20 years from completely wiping ourselves out I was making a 20 year old kid with a million dollars to buy crisper and sit there and make jeans and his fucking bait fuck We ain't looking along left on this rock bro. We got fucking ai you hear what they do with that fruit fly They took the fruit fly brain put it in the computer of physics engine It's all run around and flying like it's real they max had room this fruit fly they chopped its brain little pieces Well now they got it playing beat saber and fucking doom and all this other shit And you ever read the book I have no mouth, but I must scream at the very end It's like his aliens genetically manipulating people at the end There's this person that it's just like a blob and that's what it says I have no mouth, but I feel the urge to scream imagine being a fruit fly with all my balls itch I press the balls itch button. It's beat saber like fuck that fruit fly is gonna suffer more than any other animal in the history of humanity From kids pulling the wings off a fly. I'll just set that brain to experience 10,000 years that we rip in its wings off And here we are we're doing it right now.

We're doing that shit right now that they're ripping the wings about beat saber That thing's stuff So anyway, my point is as a species as we look at going on into the stars We're also guttural as fuck so a species has to get through a lot of has a lot of hurdles to jump Right, but if they jump those hurdles, there ain't no way we're not gonna be impressed We're not gonna be attractive because it's you're as a dead man. So it's moat dead dead dead dead life Dead dead dead dead dead life. They're gonna look at us So I have to basically two sides of the coin on that is on the one I'm pretty skeptical of them getting getting it going But if they did get in it going well, yeah, they did come around Yeah, I don't know that they would be like us like our ideas like that we're so violent and we develop these weapons We do that we're so close to destroying ourselves What if that's a factor of accelerated evolution what if that's a factor if you take intellect and this lust for Technology and to transform its environment and you implant that in a territorial primate Yeah, I mean you're dealing with like a weird hybrid of an evolved species like an evolved species that still maintains this tribal Primitive behavior, but also has this incredible lust for innovation. No, I can see that So we're like too complicated because we're not good.

Yeah, we did we did shit design. Yeah, we grew out of our Big one direction. I fall and yeah, that's a that's a good possibility. I mean, it's Ultimately, I my brain on these things ends up thinking about the probability of all these different things happening It seems to me if if we were genetically manipulated by aliens You know, even not if we weren't genetically manipulated by aliens, you know One of the things you have to do to get off of the rock is going to be a curious species, right?

That's something otherwise they don't give a fuck. They're gonna have to be social Uh, because they're gonna have to work together. They're gonna have to be godlike in and of themselves So there's a few things that we can't assume about them, but yeah, um We only have one example of intelligence evolving and if it didn't evolve if it was created like you're saying then we don't really know We have multiple examples. Well, we have dolphins and orcas.

Yeah, we have a hard time else. Well, we have a hard time Um, we have a hard time like you were saying early. We have a hard time understanding them They might they might be extremely intelligent in a lot of ways, but there's a lot of things They might not be the least bit intelligent a raccoon might be way better. It probably is way better manipulating its environment at all Of course, so at that point because it's not necessary in their world.

They move through 3d space exactly So, but then so their brain might not even have developed certain things that we right? Yeah, so then the question is that it develops something else like is there a form of communication superior? That's See, that's where really like the words like what's the end goal is the end goal to have a good life Or is the end goal to get off the rock? I mean if the end goal to have a good like a good life Ari Madison's got it nailed when he when he talks about the people on the level of the spectrum They're way happier than the rest of us are Ari Mattie.

Excuse me, but um the the level on the spectrum are excuse me the uh The you know, is it about happiness or is it about survival? Is it about getting off the what's the end goal? It's like well at the end goal collective for the human species to evolve and advance and move past the state that we're at now Or is your own individual existence and your happiness currently like what's what's important and we don't really move collectively as individual We think we do things collectively, but we think about ourselves. Yeah, you know when people are like planning for their retirement They're not like trying to help out the human race.

They're like trying to provide for themselves That's correct, but on the other side like when um when i'm working on doing research and you do a lot of research You probably understand this yourself or when gsp invents the superman punch like you when you bring something new to the world You kind of feel cool. You know, you gotta feel like i've just contributed to The grand total of humans thinking and i didn't just add like a dot or something. I actually I contributed That's so you can see we're almost like a subconscious desire to do that. Um, so yeah, it is weird It's like, you know, we do you watch birds fly together and fish moving to school and then you watch mobs It's like there is some sort of unit mind that's tying us together And i'm not trying to get all metaphysical it's might not be nothing more than than pheromones and chemicals But something's got us where people act you can feel it at times you can walk into a room and feel the fucking energy and just know Oh, I shouldn't be in this room.

These people don't like me this guy. It's not And it's not necessarily like a metaphysical thing. Although that's the branch the stamp that everybody puts So it's one of the unfortunate things is that if something becomes like water dowsing If something starts as a metaphysical thing science is going to knee jerk to the end of time to resist it But right ask anybody who drills wells about dowsing if they drill wells for a fucking living They dows period just like a cop knows that full moon fever is a thing Oh, the scientist Well, mover fever statistically the cops like yeah, what do you think is going on with dowsing? Honestly, I think it's remember when we used to have tube TVs everywhere and you'd walk down the street and you'd know Your friend was watching TV because you could feel the fucking hair on the back of your neck stand up or whatever No, you know, you never felt the electromagnetic feeling of a tube tv No, I didn't walk by my friend house and know he was watching tv No, did you ever you're able to walk into a room and know that that tube tv was on you don't remember like the god?

I don't I don't remember that well. I know that a lot of the viewers remember it's a thing I'm sure if Jamie looks it up and you can feel the energy you can feel that the old tube TVs you could feel them and They don't have an exact reason but you know, it's electromagnetic and maybe there's iron in your blood And so this dowsing it's like with rods those those those twisty rods and they move together when you're getting close to walking over a water source Do you think it really works according to the guys that make money off of it? And I wouldn't I mean has anybody tried to do a study on why that would work That's where the only thing I've seen we're pretty skeptical and pretty kind of just like it doesn't work but Again, it's kind of where the rubber meets the road. It's like it seems like that'll be easy to prove you think so you get a dowser Yeah, well that's the thing is that they science wants everybody to do it You know what I mean?

They want to be able to we're gonna get 50 people together and have them all go out in the field in House you would take a someone's good other so CRT sets used a high voltage flyback transformer and magnetic deflection system to sweep an electron beam across the screen Those parts commonly vibrated around the horizontal scan frequency roughly 15 to 16 kilohertz in many tv standards creating a very high thin tone Children and young adults tend to hear high frequencies better So they were especially likely to walk into a house or pass a closed door and immediate know the tv was running. Oh No static charge of belief that as well. That's interesting that children and younger adults can pick it up like they also like see ghosts Yeah, that's might be one of difference. You're just a few years older than me and so you might not remember it as well Maybe maybe people just get duller over time and they can't feel it anymore Well, these these don't use that those transformers and all that right of course.

These are these are a joke by comparison But my point is there's things like this that we we can pick up there's things that we pick up on that we that's that We can be tested and honestly, I love psychology although I'll psychology just like archaeology is not a science I don't care when anything the self reported is not a fucking science. You think Epstein told his shrink when he was up to fuck No, okay. There you go. So but psychology does have some scientific bits and one of the things though is ultimately It's the lens that all of it comes through everything that we do comes down through that psychological lens Like me talking earlier about it taking a hundred years for them to reconcile gradualism and catastrophism It's all through here and it's all through the zeitgeist of the time like right now racism So the big thing all this social programs and so that becomes part of science for whatever fucking reason I mean, I'll still never forget the time I saw the article about feminist math and I just wanted to fucking Feminist math, you know, it's that I don't know me six oppresses seven.

I don't fucking know I guess seven's more pointing and six has a whole so probably any rate It's I just laughed it's there's we don't have room for that shit inside So the whole point of science I say this a bunch the whole point of science is to like the whole point of scientific method is to strip individual Biases away. This is my replicability so fucking important because if I do it and you do it and you don't get the same result as me There's a problem. Um, it's weird when it gets into racial differences and they just ignore it completely and they call the data racist Oh, yeah, that's exactly what that and then the guys that are like openly racist. They love that data Well, the weird thing about the data being racist is uh, it's not white supremacist at all because Asians are doing way better Yeah, exactly, but you don't want to talk about right?

The problem is the people that aren't doing as well the problem is is that they're in my opinion is they're trying to take Marxism and turn it into a Anything besides a monetary bullshit idea you try to do it while the social level social Marxism. Oh, come on dude This is how you get the oppression Olympics, you know, I've got it worse You know how much money I had to spend to get custody of my kid and I had no social programs for me. Oh, what was And you go and go on that shit forever. It's it's so stupid I'm like, you know, 95% of the people that are shot in this country by the cops are men Do we need a men's lives matter movement or is that a little fucked up?

Okay, but it's it's Well, it's also men are the ones who create most of the violence the ones that need to get shot Well, this how about how this my thinking is like this when a Cop shoots a person. He's a shoots a guy. He feels more threatened than he does by a woman And when he shoots a black guy he feels more threatened than he does by a white guy Now whether that's racism or personal experience or town by town difference Whatever at the end of the day just saying this is pure racism is like, okay. Well, this is pure sexism, right?

Oh, no, it's not pure sexism when they're shooting guys, but it's when they're black I mean in all honesty Donald Trump has a higher chance of being shot by the cops wrongly than Kamala Harris That's statistically like way more likely like 20 times more likely in terms of men getting shot White guys are 20 times more likely to get shot by the cops wrongly than a black boy and this is not that's not denying racism No, that's just you're dealing with statistics I'm trying to do is take that I only bring these up because so many people bring up these statistics to say this is a problem and this is a problem and this is a problem And that's what we bring up this one is just overwhelmingly It's like all of a sudden we look at things differently. This is social Marxism thing It's like and this also there's like a currency in being pressed as a currency and recognizing oppression There's a currency and signaling virtue that you recognize oppression that other people don't you know Admitting your whatever whatever biases on the floor, whatever, you know, I'm so sorry Whatever privilege you may have Acknowledgments all that crazy stuff. It's like, you know, it's trying to be good people But we're doing it in a way that points at everybody else like they're bad That's exactly it's where it gets real squarely because people are using the premise of being a good person to be really shitty to people that don't deserve it No, but yeah, I just you know and they don't do anything on their own like they're gonna Tell me that I should be doing x y or z but like Kansas University recently like put out this big thing about how they feel so bad for living on Indigenous land and you know, give it back. Thank you You know what they even they even repatriated all the bones that they've got that they're supposed to repatriated in 1990 I've only been to one place where I saw an actual land disclosure And it was at the South by Southwest premiere of the age of disclosure And I thought this was so hilarious There is a documentary about us being invaded by aliens and before they play the documentary They have to acknowledge that someone invaded this land and took it from the natives And this is the ancestral tribal land of the talk whatever tribes they said we must acknowledge this first like wouldn't you play the movie?

This isn't a history lesson is it a struggle session play the fucking movie It's literally about us getting invaded by aliens. Yeah, and this is supposed to make it like better better You're a good person because you acknowledge this all All right, I gotta wrap this up your thing is give out the dates tell everybody it's October 16th through 18th the quest Range to Civilizations Conference at the ACL live. It's right here in Austin. It should be a banger of a time It's gonna be amazing.

I'm sure it's gonna be awesome all those people there Randall Carlson. Yeah Billy Carson who else Cool but Kurt Mett's here and Duncan Trussell together. That's a tonka trussle on test and doing deadlifts for 10 years David Childress great great cast of people People really good you know, man, let me do you know It's a young wats. I look like somebody else entirely I could almost on it.

You look very odd either way Thanks, I'm just like the chicks at the bar last time with the fucking AI You don't have to do that or do it do it and do it right I say it to everybody I actually had a production team or wanted to like get me to sign up to do you know for them to help produce for me and stuff And when I told them that I was not gonna have any AI videos No AI clipping no AI thumbnails and certainly no AI communicating with my followers like love to get back to you on the prize I'm like I want it easy