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Gotta bugga! Gotta bugga! B-dah! K-dah!
B-dah! B-dah! I don't know what's going with this. Did you just bekaw and wake up everyone in the house again?
No creative explorer is in the bedroom next door, uh, jacking off while I sit here in the kitchen waiting for you so we can record. I'm starving, I want breakfast. Let's record a show, man. Jesus Christ!
There's a lot going on over there! There is! As soon as we're done with the show, I've got a choice. Do I prepare breakfast or do I then go into the bedroom and masturbate?
I mean, it's a lot weighing on my mind here. Kathy, I think you should go into that bedroom and masturbate. Matter of fact, if you wanted to go do that right now, I would paw. How long does it take you to come when you masturbate by yourself?
Yeah, no, it's a lengthy, involved process with a lot of fantasizing and either watching some a little bit of porn or reading some erotica. You're not getting out of it without a solid 15 minutes. 15 minutes isn't bad. What?
You were just sitting there waiting. I thought, well, I'm not gonna sit plugged in. I'm not gonna have us listen to dead air for 15 minutes ago. Why not?
Hello, Pivertabug. The audience. Kathy is right now masturbating and we are solemnly waiting with her. We are supporting her.
We love her and believe that we should sit in silence while she masturbates. Maybe if we listen hard, we can hear a little moan off in the distance. I like the solemnly waiting. I know, it's a solemn affair.
It's kind of power exchange. You will wait on the show while I go and masturbate and not say anything and make the listeners listen to 15 minutes of dead air as though that's gonna work out well. I think that it sounded very much like we were doming the show and it's the other way around the show doms us. That's correct.
100% correct. So now let us obey our dominant audience and begin the show for them. Mistresses and mr.s. No, sirs, mr.
ma'am. Whatever. What a fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking following show is for mature audiences only. Listener discretion is advised and if you don't like it, please go fuck yourself.
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Hello and welcome to Pivertabug has the show where we explore the adventures of the kinky lifestyle, sex and perversion. Recording live finally that Zencaster has allowed us mr. Glitchy Zencasters from, apparently I'm still a creative explorer while he masturbates off in a corner somewhere and boogie is at, is with Mew, right? The boat.
I'm about, wooo! It's a second time. Wow. It was, well, you know, it sounds great and it is great and believe me technically for Los Angeles living on a boat, you have to buy the boat for like, you know, anywhere from, you know, crappy boat is like 3,500 for a little sailboat and then a bigger boat obviously goes up to put Jillian's a dollars.
But you know, for like 9, 10 grand, you can get like a pretty good size boat that has a little bathroom and kitchen and you could live in it. And the docking fee is like, you know, anywhere from like 700, you know, you know, on upwards. So technically it would be cheaper to live on a boat than it would be to try to get a one-bedroom apartment anywhere in Los Angeles. But you know, wepogie, your apartment won't spring a leak.
You know, that's first off not true. I've been in plenty of leak apartments. I actually had a situation where I was recording a comedy video for an anti-greeting that I did and I was on the toilet and I was pretending to have disastrous bowel movement, which led to something funny. I won't get into it.
But anyway, I got so into the character, I have it on video somewhere where I was like, oh God, it's going to go, Jesus fucking, ah, and I lean back too hard and I broke the water tank in half. And literally you see me on video, I'm like, I got it. You were just spoosh. And I just go, and look at the camera, I'm like, whoop.
And I get up and I'm like naked from the waist down. You see my balls hanging behind while I'm trying to turn off the water. It's actually a pretty hideous video. I was thinner at the time, but it was still pretty frightening.
You get into these weird things, Boogie. I'm like, oh shit, what do I do? And all of a sudden, literally seven minutes later, my buddy, the manager knocks on the door. But I'm like, yeah, what happened?
Toilet tank broke. I know the neighbor downstairs called me. Oh my God. So apparently the flood of water, just the water nut poop, ran down the wall into their kitchen and they thought it was kind of exorcistic.
And so yeah, so it does happen. Apartment is too leak. Look at that. See, I even brought it back.
I even remember what the original thing was living on a boat. But that's very good, Boogie. It's good. I don't know what I'm getting.
But it was going to be first threesome, having Bunny and Mew together on the boat. The mom agreed to go get some DE at her boyfriend's boat. But there was a conflict and schedule, and so Bunny couldn't make it. And we felt bad and whatever.
And then Bunny texts me, right? Because she's so sweet and she's very supportive and we love her desperately. She's going to have a great book review, or a fan fiction review a little later in the show. And she texts me and she goes, you still have a wild time tonight with Mew.
It's going to be so much fun. And she's laughing in the background because I text Bunny back and I go, look, there's going to be no wild time. Mew is totally into her game. And you were about the only person that could have dragged her off that couch.
And it's probably going to be very mellow. And she's like, oh, no way. And I go, no, sure enough. We have one instance where I get out of the shower and Mew's like, I need the D.
And she closes the boat door. And so it's like nine, literally maybe eight, nine o'clock at night. So she just gets the D, has an orgasm, says, let's cuddle. We cuddle.
She falls asleep. I fall asleep. We wake up at 10. She's all time for bed.
But she's her teeth. And that was our big. But can I just make an observation here? I have two observations.
Number one, only a young person would turn down a threesome because as far as young people are concerned, the next threesome is right around the corner. So let's just turn this one down. And number two, it sounds to me like, like Mew is doming you. No.
She calling the shots here. Are you so mute, doming me now? Yes. She's doming me.
Everything you said was like, I need the D now. Okay, let's go. All right, time to go to bed. She's calling all the shots.
No. Wait a minute. Hang on a second. No, come here.
Come here now. She just put down her laptop and she just got up. You come here now. Come here.
First say good morning to Kathy. Mew, Mew, Mew. Good morning, Mew. Mew.
Mew, Mew. Oh, she's so scared. Now the Mew turn around. Now wait, first of the mic run.
Who is the daddy? Mew. That's goddamn right. I'm really in control and dominant of you.
Hey, hey, hey. Bend over. Shut up. I'm now pulling up her skirt and pulling down her panties and I'm booking her butt.
How about spanking her butt? Kathy, do you want to smell? No, I want you to spank her butt because she'd be so defiant. Why?
I stuck my finger in her butt hole. Oh my god. You know what? Go clean your finger.
I can't do a show with you. Me imagining you sitting there with a dirty finger. It's not dirty. She's a little...
She's a precious little girl. She doesn't fart or poop. I love how you're the only one who can interpret her muse. So as far as anyone can tell, she's saying what you're saying she's saying, but maybe she's not.
She's saying help rape 911. Call. I'm on a boat and being held against my will. You just stuck a finger in my butt.
I'm violated. That could be the other thing she's saying. But no, she was saying that I am not her submissive, but however, it is kind of fun to play with the brat that is her and in all fairness I was tired to. So I brought all the toys and it's okay sometimes to just fucking go to bed.
So I see. I'm not a submissive. Goddamn it. Okay.
I believe you. You're reflecting on that. I'm not. Daddy.
I'm going to make you think it was soft. I'm not. What did you say? You're going to be reflecting on the fact that she's in charge of you and your dick is going to go soft.
Jesus. My dick's already soft, Kathy. I don't need anything else. What did you do?
Then what magic did you do? I didn't do any magic. And I'll tell you why. This is a good thing to talk about.
Creative Explorer is having some issues in his life that require his full attention and like any relationship, you can't always have what you want. Sure. And when those things come up, the DS steps to the side and you're there. Well, not really because you're there for your partner.
You're there in support of your partner. So it's no big deal, but there's just stuff comes up in life. You don't always, as you just realized, but he says, no, I got stuff to do. And at least we still have partners, but we haven't.
We're not so old and decrepit that we haven't been that we've been abandoned. We're not cat ladies yet, Kathy. We'll be we'll be cat ladies and slippers. Total cat ladies.
We'll be cat ladies on like separate porches. Of course they'll be motor homes because we're both going to be broke with like 18 cats and I'll be all how the cats today, Kathy. And you'll be like, cats are fine. But I got your cats.
I got there. Just eating. That's what they do. We immediately get accents when we turn older and buy them home.
Yeah, no, because we're going to be rednecks, Kathy. I see. We're going to be redneck cat people, which by the way, I make fun of rednecks a lot. And they seem to really enjoy that sense of humor because they have a sense of humor.
There are rednecks listening to us. No, there are. Believe me, I hear from them. I hear from them.
We have people from all over the world. And you ever notice that? I say a lot of redneck humor and a lot of kind of that accent, twangy, middle America, stuff like that, and they don't get offended. They just think it's funny.
Yeah, whatever. They're not as easily plucked. Thank you, rednecks, because I love that. I love talking shit and making that accent, God damn it.
Get her back! Shall we start the show actually for real now? Oh, yeah, we can do that. Shall we go on to a segment?
Oh, sure. Let's do that. Attention forverted podcast listeners. Kathy obviously did not listen to last week's show where she said she wanted jizz on her tits.
So I guess it's still a secret that we and Boogie have to do the perverted podcast listeners. I would love to have jizz on the tits. I would love to have a clue. I would love to have jizz on the tits.
Damn, Kathy, my brain just split. When you said that you dreamed of jizz on your tits, you're so naughty and wild and reckless. I'd love to give you titties of that pearl necklace. Jizz on the tits.
Jizz on the tits. Jizz on the tits. Now I can't stop thinking about it. I would love to have jizz on the tits.
I really would. I'm back now I can't stop thinking about it. Jizz on the tits. Jizz on the tits.
Jizz on the tits. Jizz on the tits. Now I can't stop thinking about it. I would love to have jizz on the tits.
Jizz on the tits. Jizz on the tits. Jizz on the tits. Jizz on the tits.
Now I can't stop thinking about it. That guy helps you do with mental worries. Let's pull the logic on the motorbike. Now we're better protected from a King shaming world.
For your peace of mind, please know that the author of every post we talk about has specifically granted us permission to do so because I do my homework motherfuckers and I email you all before I use your stuff. That's what you do. You have made that point many times recently. Did you get yelled at by somebody?
No, recently the amount of listeners who either ignore me or say no has gone up a bit, so I'm a little bit bitter. It's just normal Cathy bitterness. Well, you know what? I've got either SwitchTrex, SwitchTrex Vixen or Kit Foxley who are two of my and lately our own enigma.
Very good. Our biggest taggers, they point me toward a lot of great posts. And some of these posts are really great. I would love to discuss them, especially the way the poster writes about them.
Some people have a very good way with words and they either say no or they ignore me and I get really, God damn it, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Okay, let's go on to the ones who give me permission because those are very happy about. Cathy, let me ask you a question. What?
In those topics, I don't know if we've talked about this before. Can those topics be generalized where you're not we're not saying any of the details of the poster, whatever, but there's like a general theme of that that we can turn into a host topic? They can, but you have everything that we've ever talked about. Every post, if you were to take it down to its bare bones, you would come up with one, two or three words to describe that post boundaries, negotiation, this and that topic on their own.
We've discussed them many times and it's the poster's point of view that makes it so interesting. It's their words and their experience. So yeah, we could definitely discuss it if things come up. We've kind of done that in the past, but it's...
Cathy, that made a lot of sense. Did it? Yeah, that was actually very well-spoken. Wow.
That was actually like, oh, that makes absolute sense. You know, there's only seven stories in the story. Pretty much. Oh, yes.
And in our lifestyle, it comes down to good, bad communication, you know, that type of thing, consent. Yeah, but it's about the point. Kind of like porn. Kind of like, it's still fucking, but it's exciting because it's new people fucking.
That's very, very true boogie. So what we're doing is basically intellectual porn. No, what we're doing is what you do with the listener segue, you know, is you bring that spice into it because it's from a specific person who has the real point of view. Which by the way, we need more people emailing me at pervertedpodcastatgmail.com and asking for your questionnaire that I can get some of your personal, wonderful kinky life stories out of for the rest of the listeners.
They are kind of perceived. Okay, all right. So I have a post by someone called LA Daydream, a lovely lady who immediately messes me back and goes, Hey, yeah, you can use my post out of this to you guys. Thank you so much.
So she wrote something called my thoughts on boundaries and why they are so important. And she says, I personally will never tolerate anyone who does not respect me or my boundaries. They are there for a reason. They help keep us sane and safe.
Now don't get me wrong. I do want to be pushed. But if I tell you no face slapping, that means no face slapping. That does not give you the right to try and change my mind.
Don't try to be all flirtatious and cute thinking that you will. No means no. And if it continues, well, you just raise the biggest red flag of them all. Always know your self worth.
Respect yourself enough to know when to get out and go. Anyone who has tried to force you or change your mind about something clearly has no respect for you at all. You should never, and I fucking repeat, never change anything about yourself to quote, please another. I don't care how fucking cute they are or how horny you may be.
Now obviously every dynamic is different. And if you have already built a solid trust platform, that may be different. But I've been seeing so many posts about these douchebag dogs who just overstep time and time again. Be smart, be safe, never feel guilty, and always trust your gut.
Remember, you are the one in control. Bravo, bravo, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap. Bye, baby. Yes.
Bravo, bravo. Now then Cathy, as you spoke, I have so, look, I even did a pre-meeting about this topic with Mew, which was actually really good. I had her because I was cleaning and stuff. And I said, can you read me the post again so we can kind of talk about?
Because the thing that really stuck out is this is, of course, what you would call a champion post where the person has discovered their inner champion and they're putting that over out to the world and letting us know that this is the way to be. And we're all kind of rallying behind that. And we're like, yeah, fuck those douchebags, those fake nice guys on the internet. Yeah, stand up for yourself.
That is great. And this is legitimately building that support because then we have the ability to look at other people and see, god, I want to be like that. That's how I want to be. I want to have that.
I want to be able to think that my limits are important and that they're valid. But what if they're not? Because sometimes a lot of people get together and they do that rallying cry behind a great post like this. And they're like, yeah, fucking aye, I deserve the best.
But then they get in that relationship and somebody says something and then that fear of disappointing them goes inside you and grips you. And you realize that you're having securities. And it's not always just the direct assault of total douchebag. Fuck you, fat slow, you rejected me.
Sometimes it's someone maybe you know a little bit, somebody maybe you admire a little bit, somebody you've always wanted to play with a little bit. And now all of a sudden they're laying that in front of you. And all of a sudden you're now not as brave. Yes, I totally hear what you're saying.
And to my great horror, I can see myself in everything you just said. Because when you make that rallying cry and you have people surrounding you and your friends, you're all, yes, we're gonna start in the castle. And everything is good because you feel very courageous surrounded by all this security and total and complete trust in what you're saying. And then like you say, you find yourself in the situations.
And I am the worst at that because myself doubt makes me question every conviction I ever thought I had when I'm alone and I find myself in one of those situations and I don't have my friends around me or this poster who just wrote this great thing that I'm in solidarity with. I suddenly turn into the biggest marshmallow because I question, well, maybe I am being too strong and on standing on this one principle. Maybe he or she is right. Maybe I will backtrack like crazy and I absolutely hate that about myself.
I hate that I can so easily be swayed. If you make a good enough argument, I will immediately start to doubt my own convictions. So it's a problem I've had all my life in. You're right, it's particularly difficult in the scene in the community because you see all these things and the things you've wanted all your life and suddenly they're within arm's reach.
And you start compromising left and right. Well, I said I wasn't gonna do this, but I will. I said I wasn't gonna have sex with that condom, but he's so hot once the next time that's actually gonna happen to me on and on and on and on. So I think it's a great thing you just brought up because that is actually very true.
So how do we get? So now, because me and I talked a lot about this and me was like, okay, well, what would be the steps? Because now we have point A, we have the crown. The crown jewel that we wanna go for is that absolutely, we are always gonna stand up for ourselves, we are always going to be, it doesn't mean you have to be rude or an asshole.
I mean, against an asshole, fine, fuck them, get the fuck out of my life. But if it's somebody that you like and they're trying to kind of push your limits, how do you get to that level? How do you get to that crown jewel where you always stand up for yourself? What is the process?
Yeah, because I think the answer is that you don't always want to take that stance. Sometimes these self-doubt that creeps in, it actually makes you reflect and wonder, well, maybe I should back down a little bit. Okay, so I'm glad that she brought up those two caveats where she says, it's not in every circumstance. She says, I do want to be pushed.
I wanna be pushed too. And she also says, if you, if in your relationship you have built a very strong trust platform, then you will try to go over those lines. It's one of the most amazing things that I just love about the power exchange is that if you find someone you trust, skirting those edges and trying to push past your own boundaries is a phenomenal experience. It can be so freeing and so wonderful to have this boundary that you thought you could never get past.
I mean, when I had made up my point at some point in my time in the community that I just was not gonna let anybody else pull my hair because they don't listen to what I say, they don't do it correctly. And I just, that's it, fuck it. No face, hair pulling has now become a hard limit. And then I saw Creative Explorer in the club and I was like, oh my God, it's Creative Explorer, I haven't seen you in so long, we started talking and I had already developed a good sense of, quite a bit of trust in him because I had seen him play with other people and spoken to him.
And I knew it was generally, I thought he was a good guy. And so I started to explain to him why it was, I had that in overtime. I allowed him to start exploring that with me. But that only came through the trust.
That only came because I'm willing to lower those boundaries of mine because I trust that you're a man enough, smart enough, adult enough to get me through the other edge of things go wrong. Okay, but in the moment when you're doing something like that, my, the only thing that ever saves me from that is, if you're faced with a decision, and that decision is, do I stick to my guns or do I allow this person to kind or persuade me to give that a try, stop what you're fucking doing and say no, not now. Not never, but not now. And that gives you time to reflect, to retreat and discuss it and you're in a place where you might be hyped up, you're very excited.
That is not the time to be making those decisions. And if you say not now, but I'm willing to explore that, let's talk about it later. And the person you're playing with says no, I want it to be done now. That's the fucking douche bag you walk away from.
Well, now, yeah, now you have that flag. See, this is where I hate to use these words, like mentorship and protectors, because now they have negative con, connotations for grooming and predatory behavior. But this is why you have friends in the community. This is why you have people that are experienced, whether they have as much experience or more experience, that you have people that don't have a sexual agenda with you to have these discussions with.
I mean, if you're in a relationship with somebody like Creative Exploder or me and you and Bunny, then yeah, we're gonna have those conversations and maybe boundaries are going to be challenged because we've discussed it like you said, and then maybe try some things. But if you don't have that relationship built with someone, this is why we consistently encourage bottoms to find experience bottoms and tops to find experience tops that you can relate to, that you can discuss these types of things with. And you brought up a great point where she's like, do tops, she asked me, she's all do tops, have people they can talk to, because obviously you and I, and we know predatory bottoms exist, where they're asking you to do things that you as a top aren't ready for. And then of course you feel that pressure and oh, I don't wanna look like I'm not dumpling enough.
So you do something that makes you uncomfortable, puts you in a bad headspace, or you don't know and you can injure the person, that these are the types of things that you talk about with other people, that you can bounce those ideas off of. And sometimes even if you have a close relationship with creative explorer or myself and the girls, it's still good to go outside to those friends because there's always that chance that you're still trying to please the other person by doing this thing, it's just good to have those types of friends. Yeah, absolutely. That's a good topic.
I mean, she took a very harsh stand on this, but I like that she made it clear, she's taking a harsh stand for the actual douchebags who you tell no to, and they keep trying to push you by either coercing you, or trying to be cute, or trying to plan on your weakness, because basically what they do is they detect, there's a breach in the wall there if I can just take advantage of that weakness if I can get through. That's a fucking douchebag. Well, and that's pretty much online, you're going to get a lot of that because it is a numbers game that, we say all the time, if you can't be nice, when someone rejects you, you were never nice to begin with, you were just pretending to be nice so you could get what you want. We all understand that.
This is where you have that no training that we've talked about a lot on the show. That there are exercises that you can do because you need to be validated for saying no, because if you're not validated for saying no, you aren't going to develop that feeling of attraction towards that power of standing up for yourself and believing that you actually deserve to say no. So that's why it's important to do things that validate you speaking up for yourself and that can be done in role plays where a trusted partner or even a friend works with you and asks you in a role play, hey, can I pull your hair? And you say, no, you can't.
And then they thank you. And they kind of that psychological reaffirming of that no to build your confidence so that way when you get into the real situation, you're better at saying no. Yes, I've always liked your no training. I always wish that you could have gotten that class off the ground.
But then you came to me and said, hey, hey, Kathy, let's volunteer and start volunteering at the club. And that's when everything went wrong. So I blame you entirely and I always will. Wait, what did I do?
Everything, not everything went bad after that. True. I destroyed the world. I am a mere, I am a shell of my former self.
I will never volunteer again. It has screwed me over in ways that I don't even talk about on the show. That is it for me, man. Kathy?
Yes. What if? No, this is how excited last time. What if we started our own dungeon?
No. And just had a set of rules, like a little Constitution. And that was it. If you want to play by these rules, you come in and play by these rules.
And if you don't, then go find another place that supports what you want. And it's just these. And there's no question about it. We're not going to change every year.
And everyone's going to change the rules, because they have to piss on something, to make it their own and have some sort of legacy. It's just here are the rules. Here's the safety. Go for it.
Fine. If you win the lotto in that fantasy of yours, bye. But for right now, no Church of Cock, no new club that we own. Period.
We already are the Church of Cock. You named it. We're not the Church of Cock. We don't have worshippers.
I can't. Yeah, we do. I can't even pass around the till without you freaking the fuck out. So no, we don't have a Church of Cock.
The till? Yeah, you know. The cash register. It's the tithing offering.
No, it is not the tithing. Not every Church considers it a tithing offering. That has a very specific definition. Well, it's the you just call it the offering.
Well, for us, it would be the till. Just pull it out of the register and go hand it over. That's the Church of Cock, man. Jesus fucking Church of Cock.
We're not pretending to be anything or not. Is Giddy World News A social enigma? I don't know that. Ask enigma.
You should know because he's got the same name. Good morning, Mr. Sleepy Pants. Hello there, Mr.
Puke. It's so lovely of you to rise and shine at 11 AM to do your segment. You know, it's a hard life getting up and being a celebrity. I have to get half my beauty sleep at home.
Apparently you need a lot of it. What time did you go to bed last night? It's like to the pervert to podcast listeners. Enigma, we decide OK, 11 AM.
We're going to record the segment. I'm like up at 5 AM. I'm like, go, go, go. It's going to be good.
We're going to go whatever. And then 11 AM rolls around and the things up. And I text him, OK, this is your here's your code. And then we're going to go.
And then it's just 11, 11, 0, 2, 11 of 3. And I'm like, that motherfuckers asleep. I will bet you that motherfuckers asleep. Sure enough, call after the 20th ring.
Dude, dude, bro, dude, dude, bro. Dude, totally didn't hear the alarm. I mean, I didn't go to bed till like three. So bad enigma, bad, bad.
Yes, daddy boogie. That's creepy. And we've now crossed a line of creepiness. So were you at least doing something fun?
Not entirely. I mean, I did connect with somebody online that might turn into some at least digital sexy time. So that should be fun. All right, it's a step.
Yeah. It's a step in the right direction. Which is always a good idea. Let's do the sex worker one first.
Is that OK? Yeah, we can do them first. Because that is what has consistently been not steps in the right direction. And now I guess we're going to talk about some of that.
So why don't you go ahead and let our listeners know what's going on in this article? So this article comes from the website called them.us. And as always, you can find both articles I'm going to talk about. You're going to find them on our Discord.
And so this article is called Prostitution. Is the social safety net in this country? And sex workers speak out about coronavirus. So the biggest problem during these times is you know how a lot of businesses are able to get some sort of relief from the government.
So the government was giving all sorts of handouts for people to be able to keep their businesses afloat and also keep themselves afloat. Well, sex workers are not able to do that. Of course. Because they're not even second class citizens.
No, no. We don't like to admit that they exist. And so sex workers have found themselves going back online with websites called OnlyFans. And even with the threat of pasta and sesto, this was a legislation that came out a couple of years ago.
That's still kind of over their head. It was there to try to keep the way that they were to do. It was there trying to keep people from doing sex trafficking. But what it was really, therefore, was to be a stopgap between sex workers and their clients.
And so it was really just a internet privacy law disguised as a sex trafficking law. And so sex workers are being pushed back online because they have no other choice. And what I found it's kind of scary because a lot of these sex workers are having to go towards clients that they normally wouldn't go to because they just don't have a choice. And it's usually some of the sketchy or clients that may be putting them at higher risk.
This entire system, I mean, we have lots of countries that have legalized sex workers where they have benefits. They have legal rights. They're treated like human beings because they are human beings. I don't know.
And it works. But here in the States, we still have this caveman, religious-based hatred of sex workers. But at the same time, if you look at all the numbers, porn and webcaming and people still want them there. But we also want to just oppress them and pretend they're not there.
And it's disgusting because the acts of violence towards sex workers aren't represented. There's no recourse. I mean, I have lawyers in my family. And they tell me plenty of stories of prostitutes that go in to claim rape.
And the judge literally looks at me and says, shouldn't be a prostitute and throws out the case. I mean, we have such a state of hatred towards sex workers. And this isn't just females. There's a lot of male sex workers, too.
There's a lot of transgender sex workers, too. And nobody's getting represented. And people are getting harmed because of it. There's no recourse for sexual assault.
People are murdered left and right because it's no one's society treats you like you don't exist. It's just this ongoing thing that is just so ridiculous in caveman. It's kind of like a war. I look at it like we're in this war for equality.
And we always have men, the oppressed people, and the non-oppressed people. And there's different battles. And right now, it's the Black Community Battle that we're fighting for. And then hopefully the changes that occur from that are going to start opening the way for some of these other battles.
And I surely hope that sex worker battle is somewhere on the next agenda. It is. And one of the things I have noticed with the BLM movement is that Black sex workers have definitely been a part of the fight because they're, like you said, they're one of the most marginalized industries that we accept in our culture. And I've definitely heard and I've definitely seen online a lot of sex workers coming on me.
This is also part of our fight. This is also part of what we are working for to get equality about is the Black sex worker industry. And if you fix that, you're going to fix a lot of things. But that's a hugely marginalized group.
This is where we get into that conversation of morality in this country. Once again, absolutely OK for people to go out and fuck. That is, people understand that. But it comes down to the amount of support you can garner because there's been lots of initiatives and people and sex workers have united and strippers.
And the porn industry, there's been a lot of attempts to unite and create a momentum that will push legislation to change these laws to protect sex workers. But the problem in Nigma is you listen to radio stations like a sex worker will come on and all these dudes will call up. And they'll be like, yeah, this is bullshit. You need to be able to have lap dances and strippers and hookers and yeah, yeah, yeah.
But then it's time to show up for the protest. And these dudes ain't showing up because they're afraid that their partners are going to know. Politicians who use hookers constantly aren't going to stand up because it's going to destroy their public image because how dare they actually have sex with somebody that's not a spouse or something. So there's so much cultural that needs to change.
And I know the LGBT movement did a lot of great work normalizing themselves to the US culture, which eventually got everyone to see, oh, gay people are the same as not gay people that's just their orientation. And so that's where the changes started coming. I don't know what work we have to do to normalize the sex industry. But it's definitely can't just be something we've had about on a sex positive show.
Right. And it is happening. But it's very slow. I remember when I first went into a sex shop and it was super shady and sketchy.
But you go to sex shops now and they're a lot brighter. They're a lot more consumer friendly. And I think that that's a maybe not sex workers. But I think the society in general is getting more used to the idea of sex being more normalized.
And so I think we're pushing people to go in that direction. I think we're getting there slowly. But sex work is going to be the biggest hump because people's biggest hang up for some reason is giving that money for a blow job as opposed to just getting a blow job. So I think we're getting there.
It's just super slow. And it's a lot of fighting. And there are a lot of great people doing that. I wanted to just put in right at the end.
I think if people wanted to come check out the website, they actually do have some links to resources for sex workers who might be stuck in and out of luck right now. They have a bunch of different links. Because there's a big community of sex workers that are all trying to work together to support members financially. And so if there are any sex workers listening to this, and they do need some help, definitely check out the website, this link.
You're not on Discord. They can hit me up on the socials. And I am happy to send them the link. And in other news.
Yes, and in other news, this next article comes from mandatory.com. And the title for the article explains it. Sex nurse role players donate their cake here to real doctors and fight against coronavirus, forced to have normal boring sex for the greater good. Yay!
Yay! So medical fetishes around the world have been stocking up on everything from seroneedals to catheters to speculums. And they happen to have the PPE that those on the front lines of treating people with coronavirus desperately need. Luckily, the King community not only has a naughty side, it has a nice one as well.
This is specifically coming from a British supply store, but they were able to donate a whole lot of supplies to local hospitals somewhat, gradually, apparently. And now, well, mostly because now he has to have normal sex because all of his toys are- Yay! Look, you know, there's so much sacrifice you can do. Like giving you a thousand masks, keep five for yourself.
It's okay, fuck it, you know? Yeah, it's just a little funny. But it's also frustrating because he's helping out these healthcare workers that have to use like garbage bags as gowns. And so I just thought it was a really cool, like, short and quick article about how Kink is helping out the vanilla world.
Yeah, one day, one day, and they'll get it. You see now, non-Kink world, you need us. You need us when it counts. See that anesthesiologist wearing a ball gag?
Wearing a ball gag while gasing someone out for their surgery? So I make money if people are interested in finding out about us. Yes, they can go to our Instagram. That's Afrovertive Podcast.
They can go to Twitter, Afrovertive PCast. And they can find us on FETLIK, just search for FETLIK Podcasts as a great group and a page. And if you want to go to our website, that's www.preferdivepodcast.com. Put it in there, you box bitch, what you gonna say?
Oh, shick it off. Shick it off. What? Shick it off, shick it off, shick it off.
All right, you know what? What? We had our five year anniversary recently. And it was glorious.
It was glorious. It actually wasn't, but we're going to say it was, so you'll go back and listen to it. And Pat will Bob Rotez said he said, I've learned loads. Pussy cookies, anal maracas, alligator balls, and a lot of technical play.
And don't use table candles for wax play. Wow, he does remember a lot of stuff. Some people listen, Kathy. I guess so.
I hadn't realized, but yeah, we have kind of canvas all that over the years. Anyway, we also did get a lot of response for our church that we're thinking of forming the Church of Consensual King, or COC, as we like to call it. I'm a Kathy. You gotta give points.
I gotta give points, Kathy. I had to give you the points. I'm like, really? And then of course everyone's like, yeah.
So they're like, all right, we're the Church of COC. Garbage can mail, Rotez, and said, if I were to join the Church of Consensual King, would you be able to send an official membership transfer or form to my Southern Baptist Church? Oh my God, Mel, we totally would. I'd even laminate that motherfucker, send it in a big envelope.
This serves as notice that Garbage can mail. We'll become one of our parishioners. Thank you very much for taking care of our. COC will now embrace her.
Oh my God, Willie wrote. And he said, I'd be down for PP transition to COC. I'm sure you would, Willie, with a name like that. Of course he would be a member of COC.
See, I just got that. I just got Willie. Wow, wow. See, Willie, COC.
COC is also called a, I'm just gonna sniff my anal jesic. Sniff your anal, man. Cathy, do you wanna get in on this? Cause I swear to God, you and I could just sit there and up.
When I was a kid, I used to open the jar of Vix vapor. I'd put it under my nose and smell it. It was delicious. All right, so, but Cora wrote to us, I guess we ranted a little bit about Patreon charging sales tax.
Yes. And he says, all I know is if Patreon starts charging sales tax for me to help out the show, I guess I'm paying sales tax. But Cora, you got that. That is so sweet.
That is really nice. It looks, for an update for that, it looks as, it's not in all things. It's just in certain things with tiers and benefits. Our Patreon is pretty much general support only.
We put up the show early. As long as we announce what we're gonna do on the show and not on Patreon, I think that's the way to avoid most of whatever your little taxes, you know, the 50 cents they're gonna put on. Right, yes, that's good. But Cora's got our back, man.
And he also said, by the way, buddy, let me just tell you that if you insist on continuing to talk about my labia, flappin' in the wind, flyin' like a seagull, you're gonna get caught. Bye! Bye! You're good.
Now! Off into the seabreeze, could you just picture it? I mean, so serene, just like maybe, just like some, like a little beach fire going, you know, in like people sitting around in sweaters. And it's like, we watch your vagina ascend off, more than a sunset.
It's like every sunset, we all just watch Kathy's labia just flap off into the distance. It's so melancholy and sweet. Everyone did it. My vagina will not ascend over the coastline, okay?
This is not gonna happen. But it did not float around. In the Church of Cock? No!
In the Church of Cock, we worship Kathy's fuckin' labia, God damn it. Well, maybe in the Church of Cock, I'll give you that. But Cora said, wiggle, naked Kathy, damn boogie. Now I'm seeing seagulls flying out of Kathy's vagina and creative exploder with a rifle yelling, Paul!
That's good! No, it's not. That is good, Kathy, I like that. Oh, but Cora, you have such a sick mind.
Paul, that is good. That's too much. All right, finally we have TJ who wrote this and said, hey boogie, my coworker told me about your podcast, and it's freaking awesome. She said, you guys have a Patreon, but I can't find it, is there any links somewhere?
We've gotten these before, by the way, where people are like, we can't find you. We're the black sheep of Patreon, by the way. Just one. No, no, no, no, they had a nice little dinner for us.
They brought us in and fed us and said, we love our adult content creators, but now that we've told you that, just also know, we're going to completely ignore you. And make you not searchable. Not searchable and anything. You can't even search pervertipog, you have to type in patreon.com slash perverted podcast, or you will not find us.
That's if you're on Patreon, but I will tell you that if you go on any search engine and type in perverted podcast Patreon, our page pops up. So only even Patreon search engine can you not search for us. Yeah, but once again, that's how we get fucked on everything. If people know about us, they can search for us, but if they don't know about us, they can't just type in keywords and find us.
So yeah. Wow, wow, wow, quit your gripe in. Yes, I'm going to quit my griping. As soon as somebody who actually understands search engine optimization can come and help us.
Oh, hey, if somebody knows how to really do search engine optimization and not just say it. That was my rant. It's not just lie to us or go nonverbal on us when it comes to search engine. Yeah, it really is.
It's a nonverbal placing with no negotiation and no aftercare. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We do search engine optimization. You'll make it onto the pages with your keywords.
Sure. Hello? Hello? Hello?
Hello search engine optimization? Hello? What happened to the search engine? Oh, oh, you went nonverbal.
Oh, that's not going to happen. I'm sorry, I'm just bitching. You are kind of bit out. No, you won't.
I'm like, well, I need a place to live. We definitely need help. I'm not. Now I'm literally comfort huffing the anal, jesic.