The show sponsored by the mister and support in the birdie podcast thank you headley the adonis that sprinkles your support upon us what is the i don't know but i don't know necessarily what at least bring i don't want headley sprinkling anything on me like maybe there could be a little umbrella and as he so has he sprinkles his support upon us we made your shelter by some of the headley sprinkle because we want to show go but i don't know exactly used and abused but it's headley he's a show sponsor but i suppose it's headley he could sprinkle on us let's break a kidney can he sprinkle on your tits now by the way i'm so glad you brought that up what i would love to have just on this is what i thought it i cannot you've talked let's talk about being used in abuse i'm driving in my car on the freeway on my way to see creative explorer and i'm a couple of episodes behind because i'll otherwise do listen to our show boogie i don't always listen to it right away i forgive you i totally forgive you you understand i'm listening to like two shows back and i'm not listening to the get to the end we're talking about the jizz mister boogie and uh to my horror you decided to sample that bit where i say i would love just on my tits and create all this oh man i would love to have jizz on the tits i don't know what i would love to have jizz on the tits damn you can't do that you see it's just damn i cannot pass up on a record scratch that is so blatant it's just you said one thing and then it was like immediately saying another i can't do that look you first of i was just being honest right second of all you have to understand boogie that when you say things to me like you know get jizz on my tits i filter it through the lens of seeing you do it to me and i immediately recoil i mean certainly you can understand that right i mean that's just something that happens naturally what if you just went with it why recoil i mean you're just gonna get it on your carpet you just let it happen it's just that immediate reaction that i get and then when i thought of it i imagined some other dude doing it to me and immediately thought ah that is fucking hot i could go for that so that's what was going on in my mind and why i did that seeming crazy turnaround there i know you don't want my jizz on your tits that's very true but it was still just that turn just that psychotic but it's not psychotic because i am a closeted whore i just i have so many issues i don't think you're closeted gabby i am i don't do it i just barely talk about it but if i had a chance for a threesome or have someone spray jizz on my tits i would totally take it but i have so many hang ups about only wanting to be people that i be together with people that i connect with and that i can respect and that i you know i don't like when i stand i never have but if i could find people that that you know check all those boxes i would be having orgies all the time not to mention the fact that it's hard for me to have a orgasm so that's i'm always high maintenance in that area you're not really high maintenance in that area Kathy because you said last time i asked in the last show how long it takes you to have an orgasm by yourself and you're like 15 minutes which is like nothing that's not a long time no but you're i guess i call it high maintenance because most guys they want you to come as a result of you of them just fucking you and that doesn't work for me i need i need other stimulation so if you think that you're just gonna stick in a badge and pump away a few times and i'm gonna come i wish that i was one of those women unfortunately i am not Kathy i have like almost never most i mean i brought you into the mountain last yesterday you know so we can have our time together and i have an adapter for the car for the vibrator so she can plug in her hottachi and it's just a default it's a default in 90% of my lovers that there's other stimulus that they do other things that we find things that sometimes you gotta ram them with a finger for a few minutes because the dick won't turn up to the kind of g spot area so they need there's just everyone has like their thing i mean i understand that some partners are greedy and they don't want to invest in your your pleasure at all that's that okay that's that's the way it is but it doesn't mean that the fact that you need a little bit of attention to have an orgasm is invalid or somehow an inconvenience but you're right if you're right if i really look at it logically it shouldn't be an inconvenience but it isn't by the way i have a theory about why you have that many women who require more stimulation and help from you and that's because you're a daddy you always wonder about why all these young girls are with you that's why because women especially young women can't often find male partners who will put that much attention into their sexual gratification so when they find someone like that who they can actually respect as well and actually like being around they want to hang out with that person which is nice and i appreciate the compliment i work for the company that's great but in this lifestyle i have noticed a lot more men that are invested in in their partner's pleasure as well and that's part of the lifestyle because it's very interactive and there's a lot of communication it's more than just a fuck as if it was just a fuck you could go anywhere and just find a fucker by a hooker or get someone drunk you know there's always that but in in the BDSM kink whatever you call this lifestyle there is more interest in the other person because you're finding out what they're into and then you're developing and exploring that together so i don't think in this life i think in this lifestyle you're going to find a lot more people that are interested in Kathy's pleasure well i i'm going to make an effort to do that once the pandemic is over i think we need to get more perverted podcast listeners to fly out to los angeles past cathy's little agenda box and just on her fucking tits so it's not such a shock when she turns and then i have to produce a four hour fucking thing on it four hours it took you four hours to produce that man well i mean there was taking the thing and then i did it in the thing and then there's some other fucking thing and then i got together with a fucking killer guy and then that was a thing and then we went over here and then you know i don't think you were supposed to talk about the killing a guy part well Kathy that's called entertainment it's a joke well with you i never know boogie is there anything that happens kind of during a show that's like this type of show you could say yeah i went and fucking whacked a whole country full of people because it's comedy and we know not to believe boogie a lot of it's not a lot of it's not real some of it pretend it's a joke i like that you brought up earlier how much it takes you to to do these segments i don't think the average p p listener fully comprehends what has to go into these recordings i mean you basically are working a full-time job but it's supposed to be that way because that's how it is with any i mean most people don't want a lot of people now because they watch the behind the scenes but most people don't know that like three seconds of a Pixar movie took a hundred people working for a week and then yes but then you pay 20 bucks to go watch that movie versus perverted podcast where we love what we do and we do it for free almost because well i shouldn't say that because we have our patron supporters that's right that they under the people that can't afford to support perverted podcast our patrons and of course our lovely magical show sponsor headley they understand that the behind the scenes stuff takes a lot of time but the whole idea of doing a show especially one that has elements and production and some fun stuff and whatever is that you're just supposed to enjoy the fact that it's there does that make sense i just i we know our our perverted podcast with their family and i just wanted to make sure they understand that you basically take your laptop and your phone and sit in a parking lot somewhere and try and sample this shit and edit it yes i really need a place gouthey i'm literally looking to move like if there's a perverted podcast listener out there that has a room that i can even just go to for a couple months past summer and just sit and cry in a bed you know maybe come through a wet sponge at me you know we're going to be nice trying to make it sound better than that the way you make it sound no one's going to invite you into their homes god damn Kathy we just need to get the listeners out here to jizz on your dad oh my god oh look wait i got a late night drunk desert cactus fuckers for works love their cbt maybe not the best time for the next five weeks it's hard to pee what the hell was that late night drunk cactus fuckers Kathy that was for me that was a me jingle everyone perverted podcast that was a me jingle tell me you didn't do that to a cactus no i just no actually i was like i just need to write something fucking weird for me because i've been doing all these other jingles in production and then i go mu give me a topic and she's like evening like okay go mute pick something else and then she i don't know if it was her me she's like a cactus and i'm like great late night drunk cactus fucking go oh my god that life is the play ladies and i jennadle torture and suspects we share i can't get thrills but it's from around the world yeah but if i gas talking about that life muggle fucker please of mine please note that the author of every post we talk about has specifically granted his permission to do so and this week dnx uh allowed us to use her post entitled if male doms could talk exclamation point like if that's a possibility right there in the title that's already you're already know you're up against some shit that's true fucking go ahead and proceed i will alright she says as a female dominant i've had many a conversation with other dominance both male and female about dominance and all of its nuances for female dominance it's a very conscious undertaking because we're often doing something that we're told by our parents in the community is wrong don't be bossy be nice be a good girl do as you're told so we absolutely need to talk in order to understand who we are and what it means in order to find self acceptance males when i watch them talk to each other they talk whips outfits torture techniques the bruise is left on their sub but they don't talk about their relationships culturally sometimes men are taught to not admit that there are problems in the relationship now obviously there are male dominance that do talk about the heavy stuff with other male dominance but it's not open so we don't see those conversations and i think that's not healthy there's nothing more healthy than owning yourself and being reflective of your effectiveness of your dominance and of how it's affecting you psychologically talking openly about your challenges will help other men open up too it's not easy being a dominant so don't do it on your own i have thoughts i have thoughts too shall i begin i think you start with your thoughts i generally agree with her that as a general rule men don't always discuss with other men issues they're having if they're dominance i have seen more in general in general i exactly now i have seen it and i will say that this is just in my experience this is not speak to what happens out in the community as a whole but i have seen male submissives more openly discuss things i've been privy to conversations that happen next to me on a couch much more often than i would if i'm hearing male dominance speaking together so i i agree that there there is that thing out there whereas a woman is used to owning up to her feelings and having to discuss them and it just happens much more easily to admit that you have some weaknesses it's just not something that men generally do the only issue i have with her post is that she mentions having to do it openly that doing it openly is more healthy and i don't know that i agree with that simply because deciding that you're going to discuss it openly either in a group in a place setting at a party just conversationally that's not something that has to do anything with male or female some people no matter what sex who are just are not going to discuss these things openly it's just not going to happen it's not who they are everybody has their way of dealing with very difficult topics and not everyone is going to do it openly and i don't know that doing it openly versus doing it in private is any more healthy i just consider it healthy that you're doing it at all that's the only issue i have with what she said the rest of it i totally agree with if you're not discussing it you're not discussing issues you're having at least with somebody it's not necessarily a good thing now let me also say that not everybody has a need to discuss these things so it's not as if you're a bad dominant if you're not discussing every little thing that happens i i fully get that some people just are better at it and don't have that much to say but i don't like i said i don't i'll just reiterate i don't think that discussing these things openly means you're healthier than if you did only discuss them in private let me give you just on that before i get into my opinions of of the post or the topic that maybe the idea of discussing it openly whether or not you do discuss it openly i i believe it's not as important as being willing to be open as being willing to be vulnerable to other people surrounding you to showing the the people in your community that you are a human being that is faulted to instead of just that constant image and i don't think this is case sensitive to just males i've seen lots of uppity snobby female dominance non binary dominance trans dominance that image of dominance where you are impenetrable and you can make no mistakes and everyone should just obey you is the bullshit facade that does not move our society forward so i think maybe the openness if you look at it in the sense of being willing to be vulnerable and saying i have problems and i need to learn things and i need to be open to these discussions that i absolutely actually agree with maybe not that it's a it's a litmus test to whether or not you're a good dominant or not if you sit at a dungeon and openly talk because first what my plot was like how many people's fucking conversations do you eavesdrop on? you know like and like i'm now beaten now i have to what now i have to think well am i talking enough about vulnerable shit so people that are eavesdropping on my conversations can validate whether or not i'm a healthy dominant or not like why not? i don't know i'm like how i maybe i don't listen to as many people's conversations to be able to judge what you know what the gender ratio is of who's talking deeper now then i absolutely nobody no man enjoys man bashing as much as i do i love man bashing i don't don't like man i think we are barbaric territorial idiot pieces of shit but i also acknowledge that a lot of that is comes from a place of social programming and then i also understand that dominance comes from a place of biology um that there is a certain amount of if i show i'm weak then the other dominance will come and take my pride which you can watch any discovery channel train jingle by whoo sorry you can watch any discovery channel and see certain mammals fight for dominance and and if you show that you're weak the other dominance will come in and fucking take your pride and they'll take your everything you have so so there's a balance that i think that comes to that i do absolutely when i look at a post like this i look at the idea of that openness as i think it's important for all dominance in general to be vulnerable with other people and to be willing to seek advice from other people and to be willing now does it have to be other dominance because you know what i don't like the whole i don't want to go and seek advice from a fucking idiot you know because you can see two guys i've seen two dominance talking about stuff and you're like i don't agree with anything these idiots are saying so i think it's very important to who you are seeking like is it a good like we can seek advice from classes we can seek advice from you know public speakers and books and articles that are written about it by people who have spent a lot of time thinking about that specific thing i don't think in general it necessarily has to be i'm having a problem in my relationship so i'm just gonna go talk to anybody yes it's a heavily nuanced topic here and i get that and we're just you're right there's so many issues in this one post we're just talking about her perspective and she's heard a lot of female dominance discuss things and not a lot of male dominance and i think the general takeaway is uh if you're having issues and you're holding back from discussing things because you think as a male that's not something you should do then you got issues so i'll give you creative explorer as an example he doesn't have male friends the close male friends of course he has some but he's not going to sit there and go and discuss his issues because he happens to be in that respect he's very much introverted he solves his issues and his problems on his own and i'm always you know very surprised and honored that he'll openly discuss so much with me does it matter that he's talking to another dominant not in this case because he's his own man and he's going to decide who he talks to but i think that we're discussing people men who suppress that urge to discuss things or who are having problems can't figure it out on their own and are stopping themselves from seeking advice from another man those are the people that uh i that i would agree with her it's unhealthy for you to do that uh in any area of life forget just being a dominant forget just the power exchange in any area of life if you're not seeking support somewhere because you think it makes you less of a man that's not healthy that's not generally a healthy thing to do i absolutely agree with that i actually would go another step further and say if you are of what you just described you're actually more dangerous uh of a dominant to play with i agree because i know when you make a mistake you're not going to talk about that with anybody and you're actually going to not learn anything and that's the type of person that's also going to deny that they did something wrong or that they're causing harm so by not communicating i've found and of course if you listen to perverted podcast you've heard now 265 episodes of kathy and i's vulnerability and all of our fuckups and mistakes and stuff so we're not afraid to talk about it and i believe in some senses that makes us more credible and more i was thinking appetizing it makes us more appetizing kathy for people to want to play with us because they know that we're it takes a lot of strength to be vulnerable it takes a lot of character to be willing to say i make mistakes and that i need to learn things and that we pound out some of the ugly parts of ourselves i find that most of the partners that i have find that very comforting because they feel safer with me right because i'm going to try to i'm going to try to grow no one taking my motherfucking pride you got no pride i got no pride that is legit jizz on my tis does that give me my nickname now joty joty jizz on the tits that's a new thing that's it we just made it urban dictionary jot kathy you like jot we gotta add a second t jizz on the tits oh look at that we fixed vulnerability good post i like yeah i was a good post good topic to bring up thank you for giving us permission do you like my cock shot avatar no no no no no no i'm in a loop kathy no no stop it can i select cat it's that cat you've seen the internet the cat's like no no no no no no no no no no no i've never seen that you've never seen the cat on the internet the no cat there's a no cat yeah i'll have to look that up when i when we close the show here it sounds like the cat saying no but it says it a lot it's like no no no no no no no no no no oh you got too much time on your hands man that's self-advocating cat that is self-advocating cat and you need to have self-advocating cat with you on every negotiation on every date women just need to have that that that sample that's it and then when you have trouble saying you just turn it on no no no no no no no i need help there is i need a permanent residence a verdine mare martz yeah all right so i'm a little bit behind on these these are from a few shows back we thanked spiffy who was a new patreon supporter sometime in a ceremony for her name over and over and over again because it's such a spiffy spiffy and i said you know can we give you a shout out and she replied and said i don't know if i'm supposed to just take your thank you and leave you alone about it but i'm gonna say something because i wanna and you can't stop me well she's right there we can't stop her we can't stop our listeners from doing anything they want they are in a movable they are a freight train of joy yes they are she says sometimes our best isn't the same as someone else's best and that's perfectly okay i believe that as long as we keep trying to be our best and keep trying to push through our self doubt even when it's crushing we are fucking rock stars perverted podcast has been an inspiration in that manner you guys could have let us all of this unrest stop you from continuing the show but you found ways to make it happen regardless that's a big fucking deal fuck anyone who says otherwise you're all rock stars so anyways thanks so much for existing and ps keep saying my name i like that shit i just picture you i just picture like the end of clockwork orange where it's just the the the flailing music and baton symphony and hair flying around and you're like and now i am alive and just slow motion just just flying across the room all over your tents and you're like no that's how you see it end of clockwork orange yeah that's horrible can i go on to the other emails please by all means means, please proceed. Do you remember the sex ed discussion you had with Enigma?
And he was discussing. Okay. Yeah. And then apparently the listener segment you did with Wicked got us a lot of replies because Gartichan Mill says Wicked segment was so hot.
Oh my God, such humiliation. And then she says also yes about the sex ed issue here in the States. It's abysmal, especially in the Bible Belt. And I have the shitty programming to prove it.
I do very much hope we can make progressive strides and more comprehensive sex ed moving forward as a parent. And this is why I love that she wrote it because I don't have a lot of parents weighing in here. As a parent, it is an awkward topic that I still struggle with, but I'm lucky to have a trusting teenager who doesn't have qualms about asking questions and we do our best to give him accurate information. Still, we could and should collectively do so much better.
And happy birthday, Boogie. Yay. She's like, she's garbage. Cajamel likes you, Boogie.
I think she tolerates me. She tolerates me to get to Kathy. I think a lot of people because I do speak probably 65 to your 35. And I think people it's like they're martyrdom.
It's like we have this like Catholic mentality amongst our listeners where they like the 65% martyrdom to get to the heaven of Kathy. I think that you are insane and you like making up these crazy stories. I do. I actually just made that up.
But I just picture all of our listeners like in Monty Python with the pillar that they smack themselves in the head with. They're just like, oh, must listen to Boogie. Another five minutes. Oh, smack themselves in the head.
What's he rambling about this time? Oh, I don't think so. I think they tune in to listen to a lot of your jingles and insane craziness. All right.
So and you know, paddle, paddle bob also wrote a test he loved with. He's a wicked section was so hot she can read me bedtime stories anytime. Can you imagine you could turn on a button? Wicked bedside.
Yes. She should read. She should do bedtime stories. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Thinking about it. So she has that good voice trying to get that teleporter to work, you know, so we can kidnap her.
Who's in Copenhagen? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. I'm hoping to open. I'm gonna, I don't know. I was so impressed that how well she speaks English.
I could barely detect an accent. I mean, how is it that you sound like such an American dipshit right there? And because I did the same thing or I did the same thing. Look, they all learn English in school.
That's what is amazing to me. So the rest of the world learns English and we are not even bothering to learn another language. You can't can't speak anything. And we are like, you're like, like people come in from Australia and we're like, you speak such good English, I can actually understand you.
And they're like, fuck you, just fucking die. You say that to British people, you're like, you're English is actually pretty good. You got this weird funky accent, but for the most part, I can understand you. Welcome to America.
Why do you come up with this shit? Who is saying that? Nobody is. That's, that's the, that's our American thinking that nobody.
Yeah. That's it. That our language is the best. I was amazing.
And she has an amazing voice. And I think we should have her back. I agree. And get that teleporter working, man.
Just fingers. What? You're just going to teleport your fingers to do a little. I just want to teleport my fingers.
Like literally I just want to like get her on a webcam. And I want to have her just bent over with flat palms over a table. And I want to say, are you ready? And she'll have to say yes, sir.
And then literally all she'll just feel is two fingers just ram right into her little fucking pussy. Okay, that's not a hot sound, but I don't know how to make it. Yeah, that's worse. She's going to totally get off to this.
She'll be listening to us talk. Oh my God. That's so hot. I got to fan this about that and get off.
Yeah. And then he'll be like, wow. She's like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like.
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like. Which would actually be more humiliating because it's fun to get girls really, really hot and then do something really stupid. And they're like, no, don't, no, now, ah, don't sn- ah, it's gone. And then you laugh maniacally, but you're a useless piece of meat.
Just on your tits. In a birdie podcast, listeners segue, d- d- d- d- d- d- d- ladies and gentlemen, perverted podcast listeners men women trans non binary from all over the world we have a special treat for you today it is an OG and OG perverted podcast listener for our interview listener segue today ladies and gentlemen I introduced you the blast from the past ari hi oh my goodness oh my goodness so many memories come flooding back I cannot believe how long it has been since we've had you on the show ari how have you been doing that good huh that good same on this end don't worry I am taking three summer classes and working 40 hours a week and still trying to find time to like do life and pay bills and so crazy busy oh my god you were actually the funny thing is is having you on it's kind of like this full circle because you were actually when we're at at the dungeon you are our first attempt at a listener interview I think when we tried it on Skype and it was live on the show do you remember that yes yes I was at college at U of I University of Idaho didn't work don't you work in the forest to resurface or something I do I work as a wildland firefighter I'm back in school to move up in my job oh my god that's exciting so you go out there and you kick burning pine cones at people and and and put out fires on bears that are running wildly and flaming through the forest sure absolutely and then we get chased by dears and ninja pigs so absolutely dears and ninja pigs do you have feral pigs up where you are yes are they annoying as hell do you make bacon out of them feral bacon sounds really delicious right now you know that might be a brilliant thing to try see because it's great because you're out in the forest are you and you can like put some like smears some makeup on your face and and just like go out there and camouflage and just hunt for your bacon like it was intended I don't even have to smear anything on my face I just like go out after working on a fire and I'm good to go there's so much stuff it's the same camouflage yes same amount of camouflage except you can only hunt that feral pig with a rubber band gun and a crop well that would just be entertaining and then you would hear it scream the oh my goodness an experience in fire that it just so we run a fire and we had a fire that was burning directly into a pig farm and so we're trying to keep so we're trying to keep fire from the pig farm and so all of a sudden we hear the screaming and we're like oh my god what's what's going on and at the time we're laying down fire so we're putting fire on the ground to combat the fire that's coming at us isn't that like all back burning or something like that back burn okay yep so we're running around trying to find like it sounds human so we're looking for a human now it's just too big fucking two pigs are like if we're going down in this fire we're going down with some pig loving yes I I gonna squeal it up wow I yeah that was an experience you're all guys really we got a backward going you're not gonna die there like look I just told this big bitch that we're gonna die and she's letting me fucker can you guys not blow this for me pretty much yeah and then the pig the male pig is he's like two to three times the size of the female so it's just like we wondered if it was consensual there he really did they did not negotiate squint no wonder there was squeal and get your fat big ass off me can't we just do some position that works for both of us oh my god you've seen things Ari you have absolutely seen things that is I did not know we were gonna talk about that story I think we should just stop right there there's Ari fighting fires trying to save the pig farm here's the squeal and comes running to pigs fucking done end of show thank you roll credits and if you didn't know pigs sound like humans like when they squeal it is like a human screen that is terrifying and hilarious at the same time that's pretty much how we all felt so glad that you've been staying busy and entertained you send in one of the questionnaires that we give to our pervertive podcast listeners so we can kind of do this segment where we actually get to know because all of our listeners that are kinky have a lot of experiences too and you had a story in your questionnaire that you answered that I have no idea how this works and I'm very excited there was a funny story you said you had with a rope inversion and a butt plug can you please explain to our listeners what that was about okay so let me set the scene my partner hosts what are called rope study groups and so that's just a bunch of people who get together and we practice our rope okay and so at this one rope study group we wanted to practice doing full inversions which means having the rope bottom in a harness but completely upside down very good okay so that's the plan and our our little the thing my partner and I have is I always wear butt plugs to rope studies and so I'm wearing my butt plug to the rope study this is the plan and it's I guess to add to the story he makes his own butt plugs so this is a butt plug that he has made for me specifically now that is delightful that's actually very touching I make this is this is does he like carve it or whittle it out does he like dip this or blow it in glass he blows it in glass which he currently doesn't have a shop because he's back in college but the plan was to eventually send the podcast one of his glass butt plugs but that'll come later that'd be pretty good I'm sure we have plenty of volunteers who would love to who would love to try on that one yeah so we have and we're in the butt plug at the rope study and they're like okay we're gonna do we did a harness that's close to what's called a leto harness which is a weaved harness and then so we get up all in the rope in the harness and we get me upside down and I'm in heaven I've never been inverted until this night and so I didn't know what to expect but it was it was amazing and I'm just floating in the rope and just enjoying it and my partner is checking in with me he's like hey how you doing and I'm like I'm doing great and I feel the butt plug and like I can really feel it I just I feel so happy and I'm giggling too because I know you don't talk about these type of things around other people right and fairly private so we're still giggling and we're giggling and I'm just like oh this feels so great and the way that we had tied the harness and the way that where the anchor point was that we tied the up line suit it kind of it framed my ass really well like it made my ass great nice but that also means that there's a lot of compression from the sides of the harness on my ass cheeks and apparently my butt really likes butt plugs and so like as my butt cheeks got compressed more my butt just really started eight the plug like and I I don't know because I just like it just felt good and it was a really good sensation and it was just a really good stretch and I was just really happy so we don't know there's a problem and it wasn't really a problem but it was just like okay and so we get I get all down and we get the rope off and I'm like yeah and the pressure is still like I can really feel my butt plug which normally I don't feel that as much like it I'm aware yeah the spankter the spankter relaxes and then that's kind of that's the original intent of a butt plug was that it gets your butt ready for sex right well my my fingers are relaxing I'm like okay what's going on and so like get done and I'm I'm all floating from rope which isn't normally what happens in rope studies but apparently I just I really love inversions so I get really knocked down floaty right and I'm still wondering about about clubs I go to check on it and so I'm in the bathroom and I'm like getting ready to take my butt plug out and there's no butt plug oh oh it's time to go hunting but the setback on your face we gotta go in yeah well and I was so embarrassed because I'm like how do you explain like this plug is made for me it's nice it has good around like it means that my body was so relaxed that it it just opened up right I didn't know how I was really embarrassed to explain that to my partner so I just was like I'm not saying a thing until afterwards until I get this butt plug out so I'm like all right I'm in the bathroom and I'm just like you know what deep breaths she's in yoga stretching and I just bear down and took a break and bear down and then eventually butt plug came up and I was like okay you birth the butt plug that is that is a great success story and I think with the glass you have a better chance of doing that the couple times that we have lost the butt plug I've had to go in for it yeah and I even I mean I even have a finger hook technique where you use two fingers and you hook the the the flare part and then you can kind of extract it because you're very fortunate if you can get it out some people it goes up too far and suck it up you're going to the emergency room because I got a dilator butthole and go get it yes yes I was very grateful which by the way I I'm not that into but stuff for myself but if I was and I lost a but plug I said this on the show before if I had to go to the ER I would kick open that door with a towel around my waist and just be like I got freaky with my ass and there's something there that you guys need to go get just want to own it just want to own it just because you know everyone goes in and they're like oh my god I was I was cleaning my blinds and I fell and this lubed potato just went up my ass oh boy I think you should own it but I'm glad that you had a successful birthing of the plug I did and then I came out giggling and laughing and I was like guys guys you won't believe what happened and then it you're still spacey I was so proud of getting the bug bug out that I was just like guys this is what happened and look what I did I just I was so happy I'm so proud of myself in various but so proud yeah and then from that that experience we now have us I have a specific rope plug it has a circle in it like a loop yeah we made a loop and so you mean time I've got plug off very that is amazing I have one of those it wasn't necessarily made for for rope but it's mostly made for like clipping on a tail yep and so it has a loop at the end but yeah you could absolutely when you do your rope harness with your bubble again you could run a little bit of rope through that so that way even if it goes in you can just pull it right out with with the rope very clever yeah so we just make it artistic and it's like why is there an extra string like this go with it all right I cannot believe how amazing it is to hear your voice again and you always have fantastic stories is it possible for you to come back and talk about some other stories sometime absolutely I'd love to always great to hear your voice can't wait to have you back on the show congratulations on all the business and success congratulations on birthing a beautiful baby glass butt plug you must be so proud and it's just one of the beautiful moments that we get to share her on perverted podcast thank you for being with us thank you for doing this I love reconnecting thank you guys that's the that's episode 265 in the can what an adventure what did I tell you how many times we try it we're like on version 8 right now of trying to make them cast her work for us this is 265 K for nobody knows what that means but that means there's been a lot of versions trying to make this work but we haven't we finished it we're at the end of the show we can and thanks to all of our patreon supporters if you want to give us five bucks if you give a fucking you think that the show has value in your life please visit us on patreon.com forward slash perverted podcast and write to us if you get a chance send us an email to pervertedpodcast.com give us your story ask us a question I'm starting to run out of things again so please we love hearing from you guys boogie I got nothing else take us out absolutely once again super excited thank you so much to our patrons and just the emails that the patrons are sending through patreon that I'm able to respond to personally it's been so amazing so much good supportive like you just read in perverted mailbox you know how people really understand that we're really trying to keep the show float for them it really means a lot to me and keeps me going just those private letters that I've been getting from everyone thank you so much I am sending out a lot more of the questionnaire forms because people really do enjoy the listener segue segments so we're gonna get more listeners on we're gonna do more interactive stuff it's been super super exciting and we're all hanging in here obviously if I can get into a place I can work more consistently and you know it's just it's a struggle get in that place but as soon as I do just know that the intention is to make the show even better for you because you guys give us everything to work for thank you so much and we will see you guys next week you want to say some cool after-show jizz on your tits will talk about no because now you're just gonna know I'm beating you I don't like that sensation you know you don't well I don't remember rain doing we did some you know anal play once and I don't dislike this is a thing I'd like about it really and we tried doing it with the I don't know it was like a punishment thing you know oh and so she's got a probe your butthole it was something along those lines and that I found incredibly hot but for some reason she didn't like that aspect of it we never did it again and I thought I know what dumb that's that's the record scratch Kathy that is you saying I don't like anal I don't like this I don't like the sensation but we did do this when punishment scene where she poked my butthole and that was totally hot that's the record scratch moment no more record scratch stop it I'm not gonna do the record but if you think that this is not going in the show that Kathy it's like anything Kathy under a certain circumstance many things that we say we don't like are just because we've had some negative programming or a bad experience with it but the sensation might actually be good under the right hot circumstance and you have really shown our listeners that you have some of those cognitive dissonances cognitive dissonances just that yeah you're right anal play there's a broad spectrum it could be fucking anal it could be rimming it could be getting you know little's play where you're getting an enema I mean you could put anal into almost any kind of play that you do and like 90% of them I'm not gonna like but there happens to be something about the punishment aspect that changes a lot for me that that kind of speaks to me so there's a lot that you can do to me under the guise of punishment that completely flips it for me and because anal isn't necessarily a sensation that I hate I'm willing to go with it now if you had tried to put an electrical player needle play that is off the table no matter what you do but for anal yeah that I remember that scene and I really liked it a lot but fortunately it just wasn't in her wheelhouse so oh god now we just need to find someone that cares about your 15 minutes to orgasm and we need to find someone that cares about your anal probing humiliation play oh my god stop it this is gonna go under the the post-topic of do we need to save everybody you're always trying to fix my sexual life I'm not trying to fix I bought Kathy you are a grown a grown-ass woman I don't need to fix shit about you but when we talk about it then other people in perverted podcast land who may be having some of those similar struggles are gonna go maybe I should let somebody finger my ass in a humiliation scene to allow me to get to anal so even if it doesn't fix you and you stay the sexual you just I was gonna say something really I know what you were gonna say the sexually repressed woman that you are that's right that's right so if you want to stay that way grown-ass women do what you want but some of our listeners listen so they can get inspired and your butthole just inspired hundreds of people hundreds of people right now Kathy are gonna gather together side by side shoulder to shoulder and March looking for good anal humiliation because they deserve to experience it wait we're recording this without hearing crap from a nagging me now that my life my divorce maybe I'll travel to India and learn to give a bath to an elephant I can scuba dive a mountain and nobody can tell me that again cuz you're not around anymore you can't trash about my friends and I can find a gold find better sex now that a final life my divorce you nasty habits they made me sick I'll go away with his legal trip now that a finalized my divorce hi here's your problem now I'm going to pass brand new clothes maybe get a tattoo appears my nose now that finalized my divorce it can be scary to be back on your own but don't be afraid you're never alone many of us have final eyes a divorce