*27.2 Makkos Daf 17 B (12 lines Dn)*

*27.2 Makkos Daf 17 B (12 lines Dn)*Rava praised Rabbi Shimon’s explanation of a _possuk_ (26.4-26.6) although the entire explanation does not hold up logically.*Summary*Rabbi Shimon said (26.5) that *_bechor_ is more lenient than _chatas_ and _asham._* _Bechor_ is _kodshim kalim_ while *_chatas_ and _asham_ are _kodshei kodshim._**However, _bechor_ acquires _kedusha_ from birth* but not _chatas_ and _asham. Bechor_ is thus not necessarily more lenient.Rabbi Shimon said (26.6) that *_chatas_ and _asham_ are more _lenient_ than _olah._*_Chatas_ and _asham_ are only partly burned on the _mizbeach_ while *the _olah_ is entirely burned on the _mizbeach._**However, _chatas_ and _asham_ wipe out _aveiros,_* but not _olah. Chatas_ and _asham_ are thus not necessarily more lenient.Additionally, *all _korbanos_ have an advantage over _olah_ in that they can be eaten* by _kohanim_ , but not _olah._*Question:* Since Rava refuted everything Rabbi Shimon said; *why did he praise Rabbi Shimon* (26.6) so strongly?*Answer:* Rava was praising *Rabbi Shimon’s methodology* in dissecting the _possuk_ not his logic.Rabbi Shimon derived certain lavin from a possuk (24.4-24.6) based on logical arguments.*Challenge: A lav cannot be derived from logic!* _[“Ein mazhirin min hadin” A lav must be openly stated by the Torah]._*Even those who hold that we can punish* based on logic _[onshin min hadin, 7.3, 21.6]_ agree that a _lav_ cannot be derived from logic.*Resolution:* Rabbi Shimon did not derive a _lav,_ only a prohibition _(The Rov spoke about laws of burial here)._ See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate