272 Kathy And The Devil

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Oh. Kathy. Oh. Yes, Satan?

Oh, Kathy. Hmm. You got me feeling kinda... ...holstini.

Ooh. I don't know what to make of what you're doing there. Um, Kathy, I wanna touch your love monkey. No, I don't have a love monkey.

Um, Kathy. Oh, just give it to me. Do you wanna call me daddy? God, no.

Do you wanna suck off my well-sized testicles? Oh my god. Please stop whatever you're doing. Do you want me, Kathy?

No! I want you. Yeah. Uh-huh.

See what happens? See what happens? What? What happened?

Uh-huh. Sorry, I got a little dizzy there for a second. I was channeling some lustful Kathy Satanism thing there. I think Satan possessed you.

How you doing, Kathy? Uh, well, I'm feeling very traumatized by what just happened, but otherwise I'm fine. Have you been getting any ween this weekend? I have been getting ween.

Remember when we talked last week about the fact that I had to just suck it up and fucking have the difficult conversation with Creative Explorer? Yes, do tell, do tell. I did. I had the difficult conversation wherein I, as he submissive, tell him what it is I need from him.

But that, okay, so, it went good? You know, I don't think there was any doubt that it was gonna go good. I think what you and I ended up talking about was the fact that it's just difficult to do no matter what the outcome is gonna be. It's not an easy thing to do.

So I did it. We had a good conversation and the spankings have increased per my quest. Yes. I'm just somebody who likes being spanked.

I can't help it and I need it in my, in my dynamic. So I can spank you, Kathy Satan who invited you to this thing? I can spank you like a dirty little muffin. I want to talk to Boogie now.

I want to talk to Boogie now. I want to talk to Boogie now. Fine, Kathy. Just remember you had your chance at the moment.

What just happened? Nothing Satan and I were just having a conversation. God damn that guy's like it annoying. You should talk buddy.

Hey, hey, hey. Hey, after the week that I have had the week that I have had, Kathy, I'm going to tell you, because I know I put it in the thing and you were like, what the fuck is this? All right, Kathy. Now then you know how weight lifters, which I am not, you know, they work really hard and you got to pull those muscles and sometimes like extreme weight lifting can, you know, push your body to a extreme that you don't, you don't think that's going to happen and you sure don't expect, you don't expect that an extreme thing is going to happen.

Well, I had Kathy a weightlifting moment without weightlifting. And in fact, it was during masturbation. Boogie, Jesus fuck Christ. What the hell did you do now?

Yeah, I was embarrassed to say this. I'm like keeping my voice down. So nobody hears, you know, because I don't think they, you know, they consider that, you know, I'm here and, you know, I got a masturbate. It's some fucking point.

I'm just trapped here in this house. Yeah, right. Trapped. You know what?

I've no sympathy for you. You're there with your friend Leah, who by the way, I'm quite sure knows you well enough to know that you're masturbating in that room. Now don't say that. Don't say that.

Kathy, come on. Don't say that. Now that's not appropriate. So it's going to be that show, by the way.

So it's like late at night and sometimes you should just go to bed, but you know, you're kind of like, oh, God, I just should, you know, it's been a while and, you know, but I wasn't that into it. So of course, you got to kind of push a little bit and it's been really hot and humid and there's been a lot of stress. And you know, sometimes at the end, you're just like, just fucking not, God, damn it, just not. And I was pushing and pushing and then I like started losing my erection.

So I started trying to jerk harder and I'm like, just thinking of what was trying to look at porn and all sorts of weird, crazy shit on the internet. And, and I'm getting close, but I'm losing it. So I'm squeezing and I'm pulling and, and I finally just get the, and it's the worst, the worst L sucko, but it, it happens. And then immediately after Kathy, my nose starts to bleed.

What you're lying. Like, Kathy, what did you do? Did you give yourself an aneurysm? I checked out so hard that my nose bled.

Not really proud of that. I don't think. And I'm sure, I'm sure path girls going to let me know that I'm going to die in the next four minutes, but you know, I'm sure she's going to weigh in with the medical side of what actually happened to you. So you do them hard.

I know didn't blew out my nasal. Oh, gross. Boogie. I sort of got it.

I will never be able to erase those images. You just gave me out of my head. Just the commitment, Kathy. I just want to get understand that I was committed and I wasn't going to stop.

My heart was racing and sometimes when you get older, you're afraid, you know, like with the girls, I don't worry about it because I don't worry about coming, right? So it's like if I get tired, I just stop and then I'll finger over or do something else to him or whatever. But when you're actually have the goal of achieving an orgasm, sometimes you got to really push and apparently pushed a little too hard. Kathy gave yourself a nosebleed.

Oh my God. Gave myself a nosebleed. Started bleeding like a stuck pig. It was pretty impressive.

That is. That I helped you do with mental workies. Let's go to the logic on the motor. Now we're better protected from a King Shaming World.

Get her done. Fit life. For your piece of mind, please know that the author of every post we talk about has specifically granted us permission to do so. This week I have a post from Sky Lotus who wrote something called beautifully called Thank You, Fit Life, in which he says over the last month and a half, I have shown my fiance probably a million writings, pictures and videos from Fit Life, whereas I have been drawn to Beauty and Sam for a long time.

He has never felt the appeal, which was fine. I wasn't going to force him into anything after all. BDSM involves consent, but he is always trying to make me happy. And so we talked and he said, if anything piqued his interests as well as mine, then we could see about figuring it out.

And surprise, surprise. He likes it. A lot of it and wants to try stuff with me. He's even been doing his own research when I'm at work.

And he has noticed that my little space is literally the same me I have always been. We just have a name for it now. We talked about callers and how I wanted one because I love knowing that I'd be completely his and he got hard, like rock hard. He was surprised.

I was surprised. I got wet. It was a great time. Now, I still strongly believe that more than one relationship can coexist.

It's just that while I'm figuring myself out, I can do it with the same man that has helped me get to this point in the first place. I don't know what the future will hold out at least for now, but thank you, Fit Life, for helping me get closer with him and helping me explore my kinks with a person I love. I'm sure I got a hard crying. I'm crying right now.

We got to come up with a signal or something when you're about to pop in Satan. I am so happy for this person. I just believe that beautiful news that we have a community that just offers this type of inspiration. Get ahold of yourself, saying we need to speak to boogie now.

So I'm always well giant flapping walrus balls. It's so disgusting. I'm back. Okay, fine.

I'm sorry. Abuse the toy. Yes. They told me not to do that as a kid.

Sorry. And yet you're doing it. Okay. Yeah.

I don't care. I have effects in my little my little mixing board and I'm going to use them. So I was a I got to tell you that all the reading that I have to do is hours upon hours to find stuff because I'm always looking for a really good post. And in the last six months year, actually, it's been really fucking hard.

I mean, the it's post after post about Black Lives Matter, gender identity, the Me Too movement, Trump, riots, pandemic, you know, social justice, warriors left and right. And I'm not the only one who's noticed it because of course, let's not forget that after all that, I will also see tons of posts of people saying, why I'm leaving that life. I'm not the only one who's noticed it. It is not easy to be looking at post after post.

There are people saying, oh, pissed off, they are and discussing things are not going to relate it. Now I fully understand that that life you can do whatever you want on it. You're allowed to post whatever you want. And people are rightly pissed off about a lot of stuff.

But for somebody like me, boogie, who's got to be trolling through that life to live for posts for us to discuss, it is very reading this post was like, if I've been sitting in a big horrible muggy room, which is probably like what your car used to be and somebody opening a window and letting a fresh breeze of fresh air in. And I was just so fucking relieved to read a positive, great post about that life affecting people positively. I absolutely love this post. I'm totally with you on this.

People have to vent. There's a lot of serious stuff that's going on right now. People are very passionate. People are very scared.

People are very angry and no one's invalidating that. But it is true. At some point, you're for someone like you that's waiting through all these things, you're like, where's the fucking kink? The thing is, is people aren't having kink right now.

I get it. So they got nothing else to do but be angry. You know, we're angry that we're not able to be with our partners, a lot of us. And then we're angry about all of these other important issues.

And so what's left, bitching and whining on our social media. Yeah. So the good news is, is there are archives and archives and archives? And apparently this poster found those archives of a time when everyone was exploring their kink, there's so much information on FedLife.

There are so many groups. There are so many past posts. It is still a wealth of knowledge. There may not be as much new knowledge.

And it's the same thing with perverted podcast. I mean, we're now starting to reach out to our listeners and other people telling us their kink stories in part because we're just not having, I mean, other than me jerking off and getting a bloody nose. How many times can you tell that story? And it's actually interesting.

Not even once, but oh, I'm not even. Fuck off. I really tried. No, it was funny, actually.

But I think I felt a similar thing. I don't read as many posts as you do. So I don't understand the elation that you felt, but it was so lovely. I mean, literally, I just use the word lovely.

It was so lovely to just see what we all set out to do, which was to create an environment and pass along our experience, strength and hope so that new people can navigate this in a healthier way and to discover things and to hear the story of her partner. So many times we've heard that's where they're like, I'm not into this kinky BDSM stuff. I'm not into this kinky bee. Oh, wait a minute.

That sounds hot. I like that. And that's what all of us did. So to just be able to remember that this is a temporary situation that we're all fighting through so we can get back to the kink.

And in the meantime, people who are new have an outlet to discover themselves during this time. Do you know what I mean? We've talked about this on the show. I mean, yeah, you're right when you say that, Fet Life, if you start stop looking at all the posts on kinky and popular and start looking at all the groups and the discussions that are being had, it's a whole bunch of information, archived information that you can look at specifically for what it is that you're looking to learn about.

So it is great. And this is also a wonderful story about exploring it with some of your partner who's not kinky and it coming out well. It doesn't always come out well, even when the best intentions with the most positive attitude, there's always a possibility that it's not going to work no matter how much you look at it. And this is just one example of it working out very well.

I was going to say that when I read that and I was all feeling all warm and mushy and I knew we were going to talk about it and celebrate that it was a win for this poster and her partner and that hopefully they're going to discover what they like and what they don't like. I just had this horrible reality that I've watched in the 12 years that I've been in the lifestyle of the one partner not being into it, even after the other person presents them with a wealth of opportunity and information. And most of the time, from my experience, what I've seen, it's because the other person literally just either had a fear or they weren't, their fear was enough that they weren't into the pleasure of their partner or they just their programming was such that they're like, no, I can't get past this badness that I am told that the kink world is right. So you're right.

We know that, but right to hear that it went well this time is it's very reaffirming and I think I needed it. I think I needed it too. I absolutely needed it. And it also inspires us because we get those letters too.

I mean, on a significantly smaller scale. Our show is an extension of the information that we get on FET Life. I mean, every, every week we talk about things that are going on on FET Life. And then we have our own experience that we add.

And it's the same hope and we have helped some people navigate their kinky lives with their partners. And I just wish it could be more, not just for us. I mean, I wish there were more podcasts. I wish there was more positive social media surrounding people's sexual exploration of themselves.

You know, there are, don't you? I mean, I know you don't listen to a lot of podcasts, but there actually are quite a few out there and they're growing. Yeah, but as far as absolutely, there's probably about, I'd say close to a hundred, a hundred kinky podcasts that are like, you know, like our level and above. But for the amount of people that have strong kinky tendencies, I mean, the study and research that says about anywhere between nine and 17% of all humans have kinky tendencies to strong kinky tendencies.

So a hundred podcasts is hideously under representing that amount of people who would be interested and need to get that positive information, not to mention their partners and family members and neighbors and friends that don't understand what their desires are and are maybe judging and persecuting and oppressing. We are hideously underserved. What would you call that? Under what underserved community or under, I don't know, whatever you get what I'm saying.

There's not, but it's like any fringe community or fringe group in society, whether they're swingers or polyamorous people, it goes out of what societal norms and people don't understand it because you get afraid. You see, you've, we all know and have seen horrible stories of what happens to people when things go wrong as their families find out, as their public, as the public finds out. I mean, what happened to, was it Lewis CK? We're now everybody knows what his thing is.

Everybody knows what his kink is. Right. And that's a horrible thing. And the first thing we think about when we hear something like that is, oh, Jesus fuck, I don't want that to happen to me.

I better be careful. But what I'm saying is 17% is not fringe. That's a lot of people. That's a lot of people that are actually into these types of behaviors and activities or would be if they had it presented to them.

Yeah. And I get it, but it also is the fact that it's not all King has to do with sex, but it is the majority of King for us, for most people has to do with their sexuality. Sure. And that's something that people don't discuss openly.

That's something that you don't, you don't shout it from the rooftops of what you're doing. So already you're discussing an area that is very much kept in the bedroom. And that's not necessarily a bad thing. Not everybody wants to hear, you know, at dinner, what what what Bob and Sue are doing next door.

Grandma, I'm a solister grandfather's prostate last night. He shot a one all over my night down. It's in the dryer right now. Okay, maybe I'm with you.

All right. But that's why we need more podcasts and we need more media coverage of this because people are interested in this and it is something that is of benefit. And once again, like we see the main celebration of this post isn't so much that they discovered the kink. It's that this is an example of two people communicating thoroughly and being invested in each other to find out if they can meet in the middle somewhere and enhance their relationship.

And that's going to benefit everyone, whether they're kinky or not. Well, I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon. But I'm thank you Sky Lotus for letting us discuss your wonderful post. You know, if you sell your soul to the cafe, I can probably get you some more media attention.

So if I sign my soul over to you, I'm afraid I'm going to need a lot more out of the deal than media attention. Well, I'm listening. You know what? Give me some time.

I'll write out a list and I'll give it to you. Something about this boss. No. No, that will not be on the list.

No, you won't just, you know, you have a ton from the right and you slurp all the way to the left. You know, you have all of hell to choose from. Can't you find somebody there who's going to suck your walrus balls? It's more fun when there's a fight.

That's it. I'm done. I will unplug this mic. Bring Boogie back.

OK. Wow, you're mean. Yeah, that's anything you can do to keep that guy out of the show. Would you like Lois to come back?

I would prefer Lois to Satan. Really? Is Ginky World News and Social Enigma? I don't know that.

He should know because he's got the same name. Enigma. Oh, no, there's an echo. Anigma, are you ready to rock it?

Roll this chicken coop out. Let's rock it. How you doing, Anigma? I'm doing pretty good.

Surviving back at home without me. Does the entire city of Los Angeles cry in longing for me? Yes, I drove by your your gym the other day. And I just heard the crying from from the other people who live there being like that weird guy who recorded shit and made weird noises in the middle of the night.

Like he's not here anymore. Yeah, I don't think the gym misses me. However, I dreadfully miss the gym. Well, you are the land of don't give a fuck.

So there might be a gym. You could you might be able to just like transfer your membership. I heard I heard that. But you know, hopefully I think I'm going to be coming home probably in the next six, seven weeks.

But how have you been? What kind of stuff have you been doing? Have you been incredible? Have you been sexing?

Have you been in your chair? What's going on? Lots of time in my chair. But one of the things that we'll actually get into this a little bit is talking to potential playmates for like when things lighten up a little bit and things can feel a little bit more safer.

So like lots of plotting and and scheming for for a sexy debauchery when things are a little bit safer. Is there a certain amount of anticipation that builds with that? Because sometimes groundwork is a lot of fun, you know, and it can go on. I've had groundwork literally going for years before I actually got to play with people.

But surely months and months, do you find that you kind of like that? I I'm a big fan of teasing in like a good tease in general. So that kind of anticipation for what's to come is definitely super exciting. And then I think it's just the buildup of it makes makes me finally get to have that thing all the better.

I'm kind of a bitch about this. I like it as long as I have some actual get to stick my dick and something on the side. You know what I mean? Like I don't like all teas like this that's going on right now.

Don't like it. Right. No, don't like it. Not cool.

But we'll get into some of that in a little bit. What is our first topic that we're going to get into? Because this is actually horrible and funny and horrible, but funny. Well, yeah, let's we'll start off a little bit light.

So a man was hired or a couple of men were hired for a sexual fantasy in Australia and they ended up breaking into the wrong house. So like I said, this did happen in Australia. It did no Florida man this time. And so these two men were hired to carry out a fantasy of being tied up and abused with a broom.

Pretty specific. Yeah, very specific fantasy. And this didn't happen over like Craigslist or Reddit or four channels. Some of where you expect us to have another happen over Facebook, the guy paid these two guys five grand to break into his house, time up and in a museum with the room.

After they had made the plan, the man moved about 30 miles away and tell the guys. Tell the guys. Yeah. OK, now this is OK.

I read this story and right off the bat, there's stuff that just sounds out of the ordinary because rational people would think would first off not forget that they're going to pay two guys five grand to tie him up and beat you with a broom. You usually wouldn't that wouldn't be something that you would just keep, you know, like, oh, get milk, you know, pay off your registration on your car. And then, you know, two guys break in your house, tie you up and beat you with a broom. Usually it would be more, you know, something you would remember.

So it already sounds like something that to me, well, that would absolutely, that almost sounds like it couldn't possibly happen. But there are people, there are people who are in kind of another planet. And so I'm seeing, I'm seeing some, some initial problems with that. And then the guys, but what was extra?

This is Australia. This is straight Australia because the guys, they got caught. Like, apparently to the story, they broke in the house, they took off their masks, the stranger whose house it was the not the right guy wakes up, obviously, probably terrified out of his mind. Oh, yeah.

Guys instantly see what's wrong that it's not the guy. And they're like, oh, sorry, mate. And they shake the guy's hand and leave. Yep.

Which that alone insanity and hilarity at the same time that you wake up, you think you're going to die. And the guy's like, oh, sorry, you're the wrong guy. Sorry, shake my hand and leave. It doesn't help that the two guys decided to improv a little bit and brought along machetes as props.

Yeah, the machete prop thing. Yeah, that was definitely, I mean, a for effort and amping up the situation. Right. What was even better was they didn't get in trouble.

No, I mean, they didn't get arrested, but yeah, both men have been acquitted. Yeah, they got acquitted because the judge was like, okay, this was obviously not an intentional break in. But I'm like, are you kidding me? Guy shit is bad.

And like, not a fine, not nothing. Just like, all right, mate, you know, you fucked up and all is well and good. You shook the guys hand. Oh, yeah.

Well, and then after the breaking into the wrong house, they ultimately went over to the right house and the guy just like made them breakfast. I don't think they got paid. I hope they got paid hopefully up front. Maybe that seems like an upfront sort of thing.

That was such an insane story just all around. Almost unbelievable. If I didn't know so much of what I know and have seen so much in my darker years and heard of experiences that people have to where you would see how something this disastrous could almost innocently happen. Oh, yeah, for sure.

I just laugh because like this, this article is on the BBC. So like it made it such a ruckus that like the BBC dot com was like, we need to do an article about this story. So now, Nick, that we've had our chuckle and fortunately, fortunately, nobody got hurt. Right.

Beyond the trauma of having people break into your house and wake you up with masks and machetees, right? I'm sure there may be, I don't know, some face to face therapy over the inner webs for a couple months. First, let's talk about what went wrong here. Right.

So what do you feel would have been a better way to organize a fantasy like this? I mean, the main problem is that the man who hired them didn't update his new address. Like, I think it sounds like they had a plan. Like you show up at my house, probably like accidentally go to quote, left the door unlocked and these two guys come in, tie you up and then abuse you in the way that you might be abused.

I think really that mistake comes down on the guy who made the plan initially and he never updated the guys. I see no problem with like, OK, you found guys on Facebook who are willing to do the thing. Maybe there's some sort of a contract in mind in place and then and then you moved. If anybody is going to be getting punished, I would see it say the guy that hired.

I would definitely say the lion's share of the error in this would fall on the person who is planning their own fantasy. Right. That's not. I would not excuse whether you're getting paid or not.

You are becoming the top of the scene and you have certain responsibilities. Did you obviously some time had to pass for this guy to move? Right. So as the top, is it not your responsibility to maybe check in right before the event happens and go, we're still good on this.

Everything's a go. Did we plan? Do we have neighbors that we have to worry about? Is there a possibility of us getting arrested for breaking and entering?

There are responsibilities as well on the top. And then of course, adding machetes when that wasn't part of it. I mean, the guy even told him, Hey, put the machetes back in the car. We don't need that.

Right. You know, so that was, that was definitely something that the guy didn't ask for. And when you come into a house with machetes and your neighbor sees you going in, you know, you're going in with weapons, you know, so that phone call to the police is obviously going to be a lot more severe than these two guys with masks walked in the front door. Now we go to the next part of this, which if you're going to do, I mean, people want to do kidnap scenes and I'm not going to tell people what to do in their lives.

That's not what this talk is going to be about. People are going to make their own decisions and they're going to have an exciting fantasy and they want to act it out when you involve the public. However, there is a responsibility to make sure that you are protecting the public from you and not just from you and your play scene, but from destroying the integrity of helping people when they are in trouble. Right.

Because like, okay, I'm going to give an example of something that I thought was poor form Brad. I think it was Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt did a public prank where he went up to a movie theater, you know, crowded with people, you know, everyone's like, holy shit, Brad Pitt's here to see this movie and everyone's looking and he's just nodding at people. You know, hey, what's up?

And Brad Pitt and all of a sudden a van pulls up. Five guys get out. They grab him kicking and screaming into the van and speed off as a prank. Yeah, I remember that.

And people freak out and they start calling 911. 911 Brad Pitt was here and you know, just so how stupid it sounds. You know, oh, I'm at the movie with Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt just got kidnapped in front of a movie theater.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, big laugh. Never going to happen again in those people's minds because there's a boy who cried wolf syndrome that goes on here. When you do something and you include the public, you want people to call 911. You would hope if there was a real emergency or a real kidnapping or you see a kid get dragged into a car screaming or you see somebody getting hit or you see something there is already so much psychology that stops people from getting involved because they're afraid to get involved already that when you do things that include the public, you run a very great risk.

The next time that people see a kidnapping, they don't want to look stupid because obviously they found out that it was a joke. So the joke's on them. And now what are you going to do? The next time that happens, I'm not going to look stupid again.

And that's going to stop you from acting possibly in a situation where somebody really needs your help. So when you do public play and you want to do a public kidnapping and you want to you want to have, you know, be dragged into the forest and tied to a tree and scream and be beaten and raped and tormented, that's great. If you unwittingly involve other people into that, I think that hurts the bigger picture of society. So I personally don't do those types of play.

I would not do a kidnapping. First off, I'm now in Texas long enough that I know those two guys would have been shot dead. Oh, 100% shot fucking dead. And that would have been a bad day for them.

No 5000. For me, I wouldn't do those types of things. And I know people that have done them in a better way where they have people that do lookouts. Right.

You know, they'll have people. So if people come out outside and like freak out, they go, Oh, this is, this is a roleplay. We're doing something, you know, so at least it fuses the situation a little bit. Right.

And I've been at like outdoor play parties or whatever where people it's just kind of like, I'm going to kidnap you at some point tonight and take you and do things to you and other places. And like they're in it. They're in it. They're in the right environment.

It's that old adage of know your audience. And if your audience is a bunch of kinksters and everybody kind of already knows what's going to happen, then you're fine. OK, let's get to something. Cheerio.

So the next article we have coming up is called topping from the bunker tips for long distance kink. You can find this on auto straddle.com and all of our links to all of our articles, you can also find on our Discord, which if you want to join us, go to our website and find that out. So during these lovely times, if you're not able to expand your bubble or if you're going to, or you're not able to quarantine with your partner, this article gives some ideas and tricks for those who are suddenly being a long distance relationship. So first of all, some keep in mind safety.

There are things that someone on their own shouldn't do that maybe you would usually do in person. This kink that came in mind when I saw that was breath play. Sure. Like you can do choking and it like, yes, it's dangerous, but it's that there's a level of safety that's not there when you're by yourself.

So definitely I would avoid that. I would not do breath play by yourself. Use your words instead. I think the keeping the dynamic alive while you're talking over whether it's Skype or Zoom or whatever.

So saying, keeping up the dynamic and calling your top daddy, saying, please, using very submissive or dominant terminology will help keep your encounters and keep your head space in the right place during your during that time together. Now you said you've done, we've talked before and you've said you've done a lot of DS online. Yes, I was in a long distance, yes, relationship for about two years. So what's some of the hot stuff that you've done?

Give us the dirt. So for me, it was a lot of fun to order my partner around and to like, basically direct their orgasms and direct their play. Not quite role play, but definitely lots of direction. Like, OK, play, play, play, play, play, OK, stop.

Like lots of edging. I would choose what toys she would use. I would choose like a position that she was in and it was like, yeah, there were definitely times I have there's a picture in my family of where we were playing and I made her edge 13 times, I think, 13 times before I let her come. You're a dick.

Oh, yeah, she's been super proud of you. And I was just like, OK, I'm just going to add to how many times you're going to edge tonight. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. And then that became like a challenge because I was like the most anyone had ever made her edge.

And so it was kind of like a challenge for any time after that to see if we could get to that number again, definitely add it to it. That is definitely not new or bunny. That is a submissive. That is like, you and bunny are like, you can, you know, edge me one and a quarter of times and then there will be blood.

You really need to have the ability to get. And I may be able to edge bunny more if I hypnotize her. She'll get more into a submissive state, but that's incredible. That is that is super hot.

Now, then did you make her spank herself with toys? Oh, we did a little bit of that. Her in particular, like she she had it down before. Do that over like over like a sense and it felt more humiliating and that wasn't more it wasn't quite what she was into.

But I do know that people that that is something that a lot of people will do. They'll do sort of role play situations or just give simple instructions that the stuff can take on. My, my son and I, we would do, I would give her assignments. Like she would have to write me a story, whether that, and it would be cute.

It could be erotic, but like she had to write me a story and she had like a set timeline that she would have to get that done. And then if she did it, then yay, then she get, I would have like an activity tracker, basically. And when she got to a certain amount of activities, I would send her a stuffy or I would send her a sticker or I would send her something, you know, Oh, that's cool. Something she probably was on for a little.

Yeah, it was, it was very nice. Yeah, it's really cool. That's very cool. Now, then you said it was, it could be mostly humiliating in that situation.

But I kind of picture it like if there wasn't a lot of teasing of the toy, like now I want you to drag the toy up your leg and, you know, maybe seduce the toy a little bit more, it might be a little less humiliating to have them hit themselves, but because I'm still holding onto that fantasy and like, wait a minute, no, no, it could be done. It could be done. Yeah, this was just her particular headspace. Like if you have, you can definitely break it up with your particular partners and figure out a better headspace for doing self-legulation.

And then I started thinking, so have you ever done like where you like POV, like have them set up a cucumber or a dildo or something? Like where it kind of sticks out like it would be your dick and then have them, you know, go down on it or fuck it. And then I did have her do some solo dropping. One of the things she was very self-conscious about for her lower body parts.

And so there were definitely a couple times when not quite punishment, but like when I wanted to push her, like I would make her turn around and put her her pussy or her ass like on camera and just play with herself while I was directly watching. Like that was super hot. And then we actually got into a habit for a while where when I would make her play and make her come a lot, she would send me pictures of the wet spot on the bed. Nice.

I do that. I've done that before I got into the lifestyle. I used to do a lot more of this because online was the only only avenue you had to really find kinky people. And I used to do things like I would make I made one woman go into her garden and pick rose petals and then I had to bring them inside and masturbate with the rose petals and then put them in a baggie and mail them to me, you know, type of thing.

And so there's definitely a red or right my name on a napkin or something and then masturbate and then put the drip on the napkin and take a picture of that and send it to me. And that was kind of hot. Things that you can do if you just allow yourself to kind of be creative with it. And just a note to our perverted podcast, ladies out there, if you feel that you have an overwhelming urge for frenzy once this is all over, contact kalpugi at pervertedpodcast.

Gmail.com and I will help you manage that. I we will we will create a plan for you to do things as safely as possible while still allowing that explosion of frenzy to be focused to my car. And if boogie is not quite your speed, you can find me at your on the light, but 87 you're more than welcome to reach out to me. I'm happy to to take the other half of the female population.

That would be wonderful. God damn it, Nick. We're like kinky saints. I'll take that.

The fact that we are so giving in that way, that means you and I, because you know, it'd be creepy to be in the same room with you at the physical right, but we could technically, as we take in our perverted podcast, females in their frenzies, you know, like 300 each, we could like literally call and then like Eiffel Tower over the phone, you know, and make that happen because we're that nice because we're that giving. This is what we give to the listeners enigma. We deserve the groupies and the frenzy. God damn it.

We do indeed. Hey, everybody. This is a editing footnote. I forgot one of the most important points of the segment when Enigma and I were talking today about this.

So I wanted to add in about putting your face online with your partner while you are doing things that are sexual or kinky showing your body parts and your face together. Always remember you are under no obligation to show your face and your body at the same time with any partner, whether you've been together for a long time. And especially if it's somebody that you don't really know that well, because you can record these video chat sessions and that can create a lot of problems for you. So feel absolutely free to wear a mask, to do whatever you need to do to cover your face and identifying bodymarks so you can protect yourself, especially if you have something to lose or you're going to have a career or have a career that you could get in trouble doing that.

And if anybody starts to pressure you, obviously telling you, oh, it's not as good if it's not your real face, whatever, you know what, you have the right to tell them to fuck off. So just remember to protect yourself if you're going to be doing actual visual roleplay with somebody online. That's it. And now back to the show.

We're not precise. We don't have license. We are not always nice, but we're here. If you need some fucking advice, this is from Bakura.

I'm assuming it's Bakura because they have a different name that they use when they're reaching us through Patreon and they either Bakura or his partner, they both use that same email in the past. OK, so I don't I literally don't know which one sent us this. It's one of them. But what they said was when I met my partner, I had chronic back pain that I just lived with because of this.

My pain tolerance was high or rather the pain caused to me had to be extreme in order to break through the pain that I was already in. Now I'm fine. The issue was resolved and this would be great, but my partner can't go as extreme anymore. My pain tolerance is gone.

So how do I fix this shy of dislocating a hip? How do I get back to having the pain? I love this question. This is a really good question because and in fact, my opinion is that the very first thing you have to ask yourself is why do you want to do that?

Why do you want to go back to taking a lot? That is you're jumping off point. If the answer is I love the way it feels. I like who I am when I'm taking more pain.

I just want to go back there. Then great, good for you. It's worth exploring and you go down that path. If you're doing it for somebody else, if you're doing it because the other person liked it more, I just want to make them happy, you got problems because that's not an easy path to go down and you're about to do it solely for someone else.

I will say though that there is a third possibility. If you and your partner have developed a really good relationship and your dynamic happens to be that you are a heavy bottom and they like to play with you hard. And that's what gets both of you off to suddenly have that pulled away out of your dynamic can be devastating because if that your partner, if that's their jam and without it, your interactions are lukewarm. I can understand how you would want to go there, but be damn sure that you're still doing it for more balanced reason.

You're doing it because you want to meet your partner halfway. Accepting more pain bookie. I got to say when you're not feeling it, when it's not something you really want to do, starts can start to in your own mind border on abuse because you're taking, you're taking extreme physical pain and you have to be 100% on board with it because at some point you're going to start to resent it, you're going to start to feel bitter and you're going to continue keeping your mouth shut. I know I'm going into another, into a more extreme area, but I've actually seen this play out where it went really, really badly because this particular person, I, I'm not, I'm going to go ahead and say because I don't think they'll listen to the show and I don't really talk to them that much anymore.

Anyway, but they were not very mature people. And what happened was that this person did not speak up, that they continued wanting to take more and more and more in order to satisfy the needs of their dominant. And after a while, it really fucked them up because they weren't being honest, they weren't being forthcoming, they weren't talking about what was going on in their head, they just wanted to be that for their dominant. That's something that you actually have to take into account because pain, pain has the ability to draw out in you some really great stuff, but also some really bad stuff.

I really don't have anything to add, I think. That was great. I think that you might have some ideas about how to build up that tolerance for more pain. I mean, you pretty much said it in the first sentence, like why?

If you have that, I guess if you have that desire and you want to try to get back to it, you can do things like build yourself up slowly or put little goals in front of yourself, like today I'm going to maybe try to take an extra two-cane swats. You have to negotiate this with your top if you're going to try to build back to something. But I don't really have any input for that because I just let it flow how it flows. I mean, I've done this with me, I did this with Abyss, I've done this with lots of partners, where they take a whole lot and they're like really heavy bottoms.

And then things dynamically and physiologically change inside the person. And then they don't need as much to get into that space or they just don't like it as much or they have enough stress in their daily life, like they took on a new job, a new school or something like that. And now it doesn't feel like the same release anymore. So they already have enough pain and suffering in their life.

They don't need an extra place scene where they're getting the crap beat out of them. Or vice versa, there's a million ways that can go. So I just always kind of roll with it. And then as the stress leaves or the situation changes, physiologically, there's more pleasure surrounding that masochism again.

And then it can come back. And if it doesn't as long as we're still have that chemistry, then we follow that. Right. I will say that it's a good thing to do might be exploring different kinds of pain.

Not every pain is the same and some can bring a completely different thing out in you. Let's say if you're using a cane, that can bring out certain feelings that have nothing to do with the feelings you get when they are spanking you with their hand. They can be both just as intense, but they make you feel a completely different way. Some pains make me, they infuriate me, they make me so angry.

And other pains lull me into this state of bliss. And I would never know that unless I experimented experimenting with different kinds of pain might help you because I guess you're just going to have to find your gateway pain. The pain that allows you to go down that path where you start taking more. Is it the?

Well, get into needles. You know, there's a lot of different types of, you know, get into needles, get into fireplay, get into a hotter wax play, get into, you know, knives or cutting or whips. There's a lot of different things that you can try and see if you connect to that. But once again, everything you said is true.

If you are ultimately doing this for someone else and your body is just not going to cooperate with your mind, unhappiness is the only thing you can look forward to if you keep pushing that. Because your body is your body. It's going to react how it reacts. You don't have that much control over that.

So do your best. And if not, accept the fact that you're not as much of a masochist as you used to be at that time. I mean, it's true. If you have a partner who's willing to go down that path with you, have a good time.

Why does it have to be so extreme? If your partner isn't a full on status and that's the only way to get their kink on, you could find so many ways of experiencing really great play scenes. Just don't focus. So if you're focused too much on the level of pain, the tolerance and lifting that tolerance higher, I think you're missing out on a lot.

I don't know anything about your dynamic. I'm just wondering, do you like role playing? Do you enjoy being any kind of service-admissive? Do you enjoy other aspects of the power exchange?

There's so much that I know that Baccord and his partner are very experienced. There's so much that you can do that I think now might be a good time to just start having fun with exploring variety. I agree and check your ego because bottoms have pain ego just as much as tops have sadist ego. Oh, God, that's so true.

Yeah. You know, maybe this is really about you look at other, because we've talked a lot about that, and we've seen that in the dungeon a million times where a new bottom or a bottom sees other bottoms taking really heavy beatings and everybody's like, oh, wow, that's amazing. Look at how much they can take and you're like, well, I want to be that bottom and I picture myself as that. And if your body doesn't cooperate, you got to check your fucking ego.

Very true. That's a great question. And now perverted podcast presents Daddy's Storytime, where everyone is over 18 because none of us want to go to jail. Jack knew it was wrong, but he couldn't help it.

Once again, he had his sister Jill bent over the low wall of the well, plunging his hard cock into her wet pussy over and over again. The empty pale long forgotten at the bottom. Oh Jack, she moaned, her eyes closed and shear bliss. We mustn't, if anyone found out.

She was stopped abruptly as he reached around and pinched each nipple hard. Her breasts having been freed from her bod as long ago. Shush, sweet Jill, or someone will hear you, he panted as he continued plunging into her. Now you'll be a good girl and take your fucking quietly, or I'll have to spank you when we're done.

A smile bloomed onto her face. Oh Jack, you're so good to me. And when they were both sated and Jack had twice come in his sister, they filled up their pale with water and ran down the hill, straight for home. But, China's get fucked and fight and pelt it and fought and bleed and crimp and babies and fucked, but they keep coming back.

And we need to be more like that in our soul. But you can't kiss these lips, but you can kiss our ass. And that's the end of show, 272. Oh, Jesus fucking Christ.

Do you have the end of the show now, Catherine? You know what, I'm going to start bringing holy water to the podcast. You know that is so damn cliche. I am holy water.

Holy moly, boss. That's it. You need to go. Oh, no, no, I'm just sorry.

I won't do it again. That's it. And the show. And the show.

And the show. And the show. Oh my God, please, now the end of the show. I've had a lot of coffee today, can't I?

I'm texting somebody up on these balls. What? I'm sorry. Oh my God.

What do you want me to do here? Just the end of the show. All right. And that's the end of the show, 272.

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In the trailer it's hard to get laid. People make fun of how we keep it in the family. But Susan's cute and she's staring at me. She's a little young now but one day she'll be 18.

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It's all right. Getting drunk and watching all the little monkeys cry. It's a simple ride. We'll have endless city boats running like a squirrel on a treadmill.

Cell phone emails at the end of this race. We're both gonna die. Die, die, die. So you might as well have a simple little life.

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