#274 Get Out of the Day-to-Day: Systems, Sanity and the Seven-Minute Unhinged Voice Note with Katie Kirsopp episode artwork

EPISODE · Aug 11, 2026 · 24 MIN

#274 Get Out of the Day-to-Day: Systems, Sanity and the Seven-Minute Unhinged Voice Note with Katie Kirsopp

from Rich Lady Revolution · host Diane Mckendrick

Two minutes before I hit record on this episode, I got a call from the school sick bay. My son had hit his head, and there I was, mid-mum-mode, about to interview one of the most organised women I know. Honestly, it could not have been more fitting.Because this episode is all about building a serious business around real life. The kids, the school runs, the chaos, all of it.My guest today is Katie Kirsopp, a fractional COO who goes into the back end of businesses and finds the gaps you can't see because you're too deep in the day-to-day. I met Katie at our very first Top Shelf Entrepreneurs retreat, then reconnected at Curated Circle in Melbourne, and I knew I had to get her on the podcast.Katie's journey started when a client told her she was a terrible VA. Turns out she wasn't a doer, she was a visionary. Now she helps coaches, consultants and creatives streamline their systems, restructure their teams and reclaim their time, so the business runs without them glued to their phone.In this episode, we chat about:What a fractional COO actually does, and how it differs from a VA or OBMThe automation that quietly stopped working for three months because it was nobody's job to noticeHow Katie juggles multiple clients, kids' sport and solo parenting seasons (spoiler: there's no secret sauce, just radical acceptance)The "seven-minute unhinged voice note" and why every leader needs a safe place to ventWhy leadership is lonely, and how the right support changes everythingBuilding systems around YOUR leadership style, not someone else's templateWhy solid personal foundations matter more than any SOPKatie and I also get real about mum guilt, being terrible cooks (boiled eggs count as dinner, right?) and why you have to be okay with missing out sometimes.If you've built a successful business but you're still the one answering every message and checking your inbox seven times a day, this one's for you.Connect with Katie:Instagram: @katielkirsoppWebsite: www.katiekirsopp.comConnect with us:Follow Diane: @dianemckendrick on Instagram, Facebook: www.facebook.com/diane.mckendrick LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/dianemckendrick/Website: www.those2sisters.comCome to a retreat: they're filling fast, and women travel from all over the world to be in the room. Check the website for dates.Ready to go deeper? Join The Rich Lady Revolution Membership: https://www.those2sisters.au/membership

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