274: NOLS Risk Management Director on Resilience, Mental Health and the Future of Outdoor Programs

In this episode Will speaks with Katie Baum Mettenbrink, Director of Risk Management at the National Outdoor Leadership School (NOLS), about the intersection of risk, resilience, and mental health in outdoor education. With over two decades at NOLS, Katie shares her journey from a college backpacking trip to becoming a leader in wilderness risk management. She discusses the importance of balancing challenge and safety in the field, her role in shaping the upcoming Wilderness Risk Management Conference in Portland, Maine, and how outdoor experiences can build clarity, connection, and emotional well-being for participants of all ages. Katie also reflects on how mental clarity and singular purpose emerge in the face of environmental adversity, such as navigating snowstorms with young children in the backcountry. The conversation touches on pressing issues in the field—from the impact of climate change on expedition planning to the challenge of adapting to a generation raised with instant access to information. For professionals concerned about safety in the outdoors, and for families considering the value of immersive wilderness programs, this episode offers critical insights into how risk can be thoughtfully managed to foster growth and healing. Natioinal Outdoor Leadership School Website:  https://www.nols.edu/en/ Wilderness Risk Management Conference Website: https://www.nols.edu/en/risk-services/wilderness-risk-management-conference/ Stories from the Field is supported by WMAI.org We are now on Youtube so check us out there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkYx-8fTbZg&list=PL-RD5KVsxmkwqzjuhyghJGve6Uv7ikkGl