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Recording live from California to Texas in front of our own personal laptops, Boogie I think is having an aneurysm all over again. I've been having aneurysms repeatedly for the past five weeks. Now, you need to stop that Boogie. No more aneurysms.
Well, as soon as I get in my car...and I start heading back, because it's coming soon. Then you'll have your own issues over here, then you'll be, you know, crapping in a bucket Yeah, but I'll be back. Oh, joy. Kathy.
Yes, boogie. Kathy, I had an adventure. Finally. No, we finally, every week you're telling me about an adventure, don't make it sound like you're live over there so boring.
No. Oh, dear, Catherine. How you embellish? No, my life is fucking boring here.
I'm in, I'm in Little Town, Texas. I get to the biggest thrill is the multiple times that I go back and forth to pick Leah up from the hospital, which I just came back. I get to see the various stages of harvesting cotton. That's it.
That's the, that's the big thrill out here for me, Kathy. That's a big thriller. I get to see, oh, look, like the cotton is starting to bloom and it's like half, you know, brown and other crop dusters have to come in and fucking throw some shit on it so that it dries out and then it's ready to harvest. And then they, they, they roll the shit over it and then they make the big cotton ball things and, you know, that's, yeah.
Yeah, I am bored here as a matter of fucking fact, Kathy. You are such a whiner. Stop it. But I did have some really cool outside bone, tech sex, dark age play stuff with them.
I guess, bunny. What do we call her on the show? No, it was, I think whiskers. Oh, wait a minute.
Why did you say outside? Because I was outside for the first time in the five weeks that I've been here because I don't go outside because of the bugs and the heat and the, you know, just, I don't go outside. I've been outside other than in the car driving, you know, back and forth from the hospital. Because when you walk outside all the bugs within a five mile radius go, boogie, smorgasbord.
I'm like, I'm like fucking fly tape. I just like walk outside and it's like, but no, I actually, the wind was really blown because, you know, they have all the storms coming in and we missed the last big one. I guess Houston got just raped with a category four, but it totally avoided the corpus area or whatever. But the next two, there's always, oh, so it was really windy down by the ocean.
And so I went, I had to take Leah again to the hospital and it was windy. So I'm like, you know what? I didn't want to leave because I didn't know if they were going to kick her out late. So I just literally sat by the ocean for the first time since I've been here and it was windy and it was still hot, but it was nice.
I was just on the ocean on these big stone steps that went down to the water and I just got started texting with whiskers. And it started getting really dirty. You know, first it's like, hey, how you doing this? You want to end it just just devolved into dark age play anal rate, you know, daddy coming into the room and just, yeah, it got really, really dark and to where she was begging me to come.
And it just, this went on for like 30 minutes and I'm just in people are going by on their little dumb scooter. And I'm just sitting here like, Hey, you will come when I tell you bitch. God, in a sense, it's kind of like my new approach. You want to hear my new approach?
Kathy, is this what we were talking about last time where you're, I'm sorry, but on the phone, you mean? Yeah. Yeah. This is this is my new approach.
My new approach is I'm going to pretend that the pandemic is never going to end and that you have to make the best of it and that I have to deal with my life today. Kind of like that Jack Nicholson. What if this is the best it ever gets? That's the worst Jack Nicholson impersonation, by the way, totally ever done in my life, but it's true because I hear from not just myself but a lot of people when this ends, when this ends, when this ends.
And so I'm constantly obsessing about when it ends and what I'm going to do and who I'm going to first and what type of shenanigans I'm going to have. And I'm living in that moment that may or may not be here soon. Right. And I'm really harming myself by doing that.
So instead, I'm just going to start pretending that this is it. What I have right now is it. And so I need to make the best of my sexuality and the interaction I can have with my partners. And if that means we do more phone sexting and I do more dominance over FaceTime and Skype and stuff like that, then that is what I need to focus on today to have that intimacy.
Right. That sounds like a very healthy attitude to have because it forces you to get out of the past and out of the future and instead get into the moment. And frankly, if we could do that and lock our minds into the moment, we kind of had no choice but to fix whatever's happening in the moment. We wouldn't be worrying about the future.
I absolutely agree. And also what I'm finding is I'm actually having fun, which ends. I don't want to say it's an omele. What an omele.
No, I really, because I find that my sexuality is we've talked about in ASEAN on the show is I'm into that reaction of my partners. Right. So of course I'd like to stick my dick in them and fuck their brains out. Naturally, but even if I'm just controlling their orgasm and creating that environment for them and getting them all hot and bothered with role play and then they still have a release and they feel pleasure, even if they're doing it to themselves, I still feel as a sense of like I got laid.
Right. Well, you know, it's not I know that it sounds kind of lame, but eroticism and that kind of just sexy feeling can't go a long way. I mean, I know that the ultimate goal is stick your dick into something. I get it.
Believe me. Get a love lab. Yeah. I miss the love lab and all people trust me.
There is a whole swath of people that miss the love lab, but there's no love lab. We're just going to pretend that that's not going to happen again. It was an amazing, amazing time. Those years of threshold and that time specifically in the love lab was amazing is like literally the stuff I dreamed of my entire youth to have moments like that and experiences like that.
And so that's wonderful. Had them. That is not today. Right.
That time is over. And if it happens again, great, but I'm going to focus on what can I do now? Like I started thinking about in you and I talked about like what if we started doing like video domination of life. Listeners, right.
I got to tell you when you said something like that, I'm all, but I don't want to go out there. I don't want to reach out and touch somebody now. No, but we're doing it online. I know, but it really kind of freaked me out and I had to think about going, I'm not so sure about this one.
I think I'm going to have to just wait and see. But wouldn't it be kind of cool though if we because we have listeners that we talked to on a regular basis that we know there's like some chemistry there and surely some openness because you know it's a lot safer because it's over the internet. And so like if I sat and I was watching them, you know, I put on some dark clothing, you know, maybe a hood like some candles, you know, put on my best. I'm eyebrow and literally lead someone through doing things to them that I would normally do if I was there.
It would, it might be fun. I don't know. Pervert by cash at gmail.com. You want to be dominated by bookie or Kathy for 15, 20 minutes online and then talk about it or not talk about it and we talk about it.
That might be fun. It might be, but it still sounds a little creepy to me. I'm not sure. Some random dude that's going to be like, Oh, Kathy, I want you to just walk on over me and humiliate me and I'll be like, I'm not too sure about that.
Just put your foot up to the webcam and just make them lick the screen or something. My nasty old foot. But it's virtual. I mean, we obviously, obviously this isn't going to be something that you or I do in a situation we don't feel comfortable with.
And obviously the listener wouldn't do that if they didn't, there'd be some negotiation about what we were going to do and at what level, just like any other place scene. But I think it might be interesting and it just kind of adds to that whole being in the moment thing to where this is a chance to actually connect on a deeper because I know I flirt with some of my listeners. I know some of them, at least from what they say, if they were here, they might be into some play. Right.
Yeah. So why not just do some of that? Well, Boogie, I applaud your attitude and I say go for it. I'm a little apprehensive, but honestly, I am a whore to the podcast.
And if a listener wants me to top them, gosh darn it, I'm going to give it a try. Be kind of cool. I get it. You know, I'm bunny and I talked about it in her center, like, you know, have them sit down with a pen that's not like a Sharpie that that's permanent.
Like, you know, whatever, not Sharpie indelible ink pen and have them draw things on themselves or write things or make them get like plain underwear and write messages on that. And then, you know, get a kitchen utensil and swat themselves with it. And it's, I don't know. I think we thought well, I say let's give it a shot.
It could be one of those things we try and it goes somewhere or like most things we try. It won't go anywhere. We do have a pretty significant failure rate on the ideas, but we are trying ideas. Remember that, Kathy, I've listened to a lot of shows that do nothing.
We try and fail. That's glorious. That's what that is our motto. So why don't you give me a success story?
What have you been doing this week? I do have something of a success story. I'll just basically make maybe it's just me bragging that I had a nice fun weekend because although little bragging isn't too bad. So I guess I'll just go for it.
Do it. Remember how I was telling you that I had, you know, gotten up the courage to tell creative explorers some of the stuff that I was missing in the dynamic that I really needed him to kind of go back to what he used to do a lot of the more of the hair pulling while having sex and more of the, you know, just treating me like I'm an object and stuff like that that really is a huge part of my submission. Right. And how hard it was for me to do it.
We talked and it was a good conversation and he definitely has been stepping it up a bit. And by the way, let me just tell you this. No, no great heartache for him. All right.
He enjoys anything that really denotes my submission and his dominance is totally get some excited. So it was good, but then he did something weird. Like I've gotten we've gotten into this kind of I'm not going to say so rub it. We've gotten into this habit was routine where we'll have sex once on the weekend and the rest of the time we're doing other fun stuff.
We like, but that's about it. Right. And so on Sunday, I was like, oh, we're just buying a bed cuddling. It's not really good.
It's the same. I like the cuddling. Let's just watch some some YouTube videos or something while we're lying here and and all of a sudden I'm like, I know it's a crazy fun weekend over at creative. It's for I'm not going to lie.
I actually love that kind of shit. I'm fooling around here, but really I absolutely adore just doing nothing and lying around anyway. So I just reach under the covers while watching the videos and I'm like holding on his penis and just of course because he's a guy and it's the morning immediately gets hard and then he decides we're going to get up and he pulls me up and he just throws me over the bed and just rams it in and starts fucking me. And I'm like, now is going on your one of my schoolhouse rock for me.
See you. You apply the lesson. It was a lot. I got to tell you, I really enjoyed myself and afterwards I'm really like what you did back then he goes really in a way.
Yeah, I really you could have gone. I would say that's a two or three. You could have gone to an eight and I would have been happening is all really. So you know, just goes to shows usually it does.
It's hard to have the conversation at first, but not always. I'm not going to get all, you know, happy, you're lucky and go. Oh, it's just always great. And it's always going to turn out great when you have that conversation.
But in this case, it did. And I was a happy camper less. You got your snizz pounded more than once. I did really.
I just like twice in a week and what is going on? What is this? Topsy, Turvy world. What is going on pandemic, pandemic.
Helps you get with mental worries. Let's build a logic on the motor. Hey, now we're better protected from a King. Shaming world.
Yeah. Oh, your piece of my piece of the other of every post we talk about has specifically granted this permission to do so this week. I have a really great post by Mr. Oh, who we have right before and we've taken his stuff already.
So I love it when I go back and I recognize a name on my. Hey, I think I think we've gotten some from this person before. I'll go back and sure enough find that we've read one of their posts. And then suddenly the letter that you know that I send them asking for permission loses all.
It's professionalism and courtesy and I'm like, hey, we use your post before. Can we use another one? Oh, I don't know. He's like, yeah, fuck it.
Go ahead. Yeah, it was really funny. So any of those calls photos a high risk king. This was a very popular post on Fed Life.
It got all kinds of attention and I doesn't matter. We've discussed this before, but I think you can never hear this too many times. So here's what he says. I agree.
He says in all the years I have been in the community. I have never known anyone to be hurt by having their kidneys flogged or killed by electrical play above the waste. I have, however, known many who have been hurt or harmed by photos. Recently a girlfriend of mine played with someone new who took photos of her tight her and wrote without her knowledge or consent.
Now, one of those photos was posted on Facebook the next morning and she was tagged in it. Her family saw it. They had a terrible reaction. And as a result, she is no longer on speaking terms with her mother and in conflict with her entire family.
Another partner was a blackmailed a few years ago by someone we knew. They had sexually explicit photos of her and they threatened to send them to her employer. She had to stop working for that organization and move to an entirely different city. In that case, didn't get resolved until law enforcement was involved and criminal charges had been laid.
Sometimes our motives for taking photos are pure. But even when we have the best intentions, those photos live on. They have a tremendous potential to cause very real harm and should be negotiated as carefully as any dangerous play. People that I care about deeply have lost contact with families, friends and jobs due to photos because of selfishness, narcissism, carelessness or outright malice.
Apparently we can never say it enough because this kind of shit just keeps on fucking happening. Here's what I really liked about the post. I mean, anyone who's listened to pervert a podcast, anyone that was with us when we were volunteering at the club, these are things that we say over and over and over. Don't put your face or identifying marks anywhere if you have anything to lose or you might have something to lose in the future.
Every orientation that you and I taught that was something that was said. It is something that is repeated so many times because it is true. It's an edge play and the way he kind of put it in that frame really helped bring that message home because a lot of people don't think of it as an edge play. But it is an edge play because it has a higher percentage of causing damage than all of the other edge plays.
Just like he said, I have seen one or two accidents that came from Fireplay that were fairly minor, but they were still, you know, there was a blister or a burn or whatever. I know of a couple knife accidents that happened, one requiring stitches and one was actually a bad one that happened years and years ago. And I've heard of a couple accidents surrounding kinky play, but I have heard multiple stories of a relationship ends or the play partnership ends. And then one of the people turned petty and as a result, one person uses their photos to harm them.
Yeah. Ending their jobs, ending their family life, ending. I had one long time ago. I had a friend who had just got out of med school and had started their internship.
This was vanilla, but it was still significant. They had just started their internship and some petty person thought they were screwing their boyfriend or something like that and took a risque photo off of Facebook and sent it to the institution that she had just started her medical internship with after finishing med school. And she was kicked out of that program and there was no way back in because no one else would touch her. So she couldn't be a doctor.
It's truly it is very, very horrible. And I think that the majority of the time it happens to us for one simple reason. We find it hard to believe that anybody we're playing with or having sex with or being intimate with would be that cruel. It's just it's not in our nature to believe the absolute worst of people, particularly when you don't have to have a long term relationship with them, particularly when you spend any amount of time with them and they're showing you something completely different.
They're showing you how kind they can be. They're showing you how fun they can be how sexy they can be. This guy is an asshole doesn't pop into your mind because you have nothing all the evidence you have so far is that this is a good person. And so you're happy what I hear what you're saying, but I'm not going to give that much credit because I could understand maybe if you were like five years old and you've never experienced shitty humans fucking you around.
But usually by 20 years old, you've met enough people and seen enough people turn and become petty and do shitty things or had a number of dating partners where. This person turned into an asshole or that person did something, you know, spiteful or your friend's partner was abusive or there are so many instances. So it's kind of like in a sense, I get what you're saying, but the whole thing that this is somehow a surprise. I just don't buy it.
It's just a denial. You don't have to buy a boogie, but the overwhelming evidence of people that this happens to is just compelling. These are not always going to be underage or younger people who don't understand what's happening. The majority of us see that kind of shit on television.
We see it in movies. We read it in books, but it doesn't always touch us, not to that extent. And the moment that it does join extreme way, then you're scarred for life. And from that moment on, you're never the same, but not everybody is like that.
Most people assume that the person you're having sex with is a good person. And when you say that people are assholes, yeah, people are assholes. It's easy to say that person's an asshole when they're behaving like an asshole. It's not in my lifetime.
I have had maybe three people in my life who have fucked me over pretty bad. They were the exception to the rule, the absolute fucking exception exception to the rule. So does that mean I'm going to be more careful? Yeah, but if I've chosen somebody that I'm going to sit there and have sex with her, I'm going to allow him to spank me and suddenly that person does a total 180 and I don't see it coming.
That's more likely to happen. Yeah. And it happens a lot, especially to women. Okay, I hear you.
I'm just maybe it's just I was raised in abuse. So I don't trust people. I don't think I think it's absolutely silly to trust anybody that hasn't spent a significant amount of time earning your trust. That goes for me that goes for Bunny.
That goes for my family. It goes for everyone. You never trust anyone 100% because you know people aren't perfect. I guess at some point anyone can screw you over.
It just it baffles me when people say like I never expected somebody to do something like this. And it's things like that that would make me go. Here's the thing. I don't think you realize how how in the minority you are, Boogie, because you've had a very difficult life.
You've had all kinds of emotional issues. You've had mental issues. You were you've had abuse. You've you've had so many mental issues and the combination of that with the abuse that shot you over into becoming an addict living in your car.
That kind of shit does not happen to most people. Hell of a resume. I just I just think that someone who has the kind of life that you have had absolutely will come out the other end going you all are motherfuckers. I hate you.
It is no fucking surprise to me that you are total misanthroped honestly, but there in my experience that is the exception to the rule. So how do we get people to see that they can be the victim of this the same as the people that they hear about in the faraway stories? I mean, you know, the 900 stories on that life isn't enough for people because I see I still to this day. I mean, me I'm not even on news Facebook.
We've been in a relationship now five and a half years, right? You know, so it's and we've had this pounded in our head threshold and the stuff we talked about before, but it's like what do you say? I eventually got to let adults be adults and when I take pictures of people, it's always with a mask or something and then you drill them over and over. Are you sure that you're okay with this?
And we did that on the show and you would always ask permission to take pictures on the show and at some point, yeah, you do let people make choices for themselves. Well, yeah, but so here's let me just also say that what I really liked about that post that he talked about other things that don't necessarily have malicious intent, like memory sticks can be stolen phones can be stolen laptop. That's not malicious. You know, you took a picture, but you're not the one who who put it out there is what I mean.
So you do trust your partner, but you didn't realize that he was going to lose his phone. You didn't realize that his roommate was going to get into his computer. I mean, creative explorer has taken pictures of me lots of them with my face naked all down and I told him that. Oh my God, I know I must have told you this.
No, you did not. I can't believe I never talked about maybe because I don't like it when he does it. So do you wear mask or does no, he takes he takes pictures of me using a camera, not his phone, not his computer, not his his iPad and he puts the camera away. Now, what if somebody broke in there?
What if you hold exactly that has always been on the back of my mind. So here you are talking about I don't buy it. How could these people be so dumb? Surely at a certain age you realize this?
You know what? I'm 54 years old and I let my partner take pictures of me naked with my face in them. What are the odds that that's going to go bad? Not a huge amount and I trust him and he takes care of, you know, he's very safe guy, but they've worse could happen.
Somebody could get in there and take it and then decide to fuck with my life. But then I got to think, you know what, I'm on this fucking show boogie. I'm talking about my sex life and I'm going to go work or a boss could put two and two together and go man. You are well, once again, this is where we start to address people looking at their future, but then they're not looking at their futures future.
Like you talk to a lot of younger people who are like, look, I'm going to be this or that and that's not going to really have a conflict with my sexuality. So if there's pictures of me with my face and my body or whatever, it's not going to really have an effect on that. But what a lot of times you don't think about, well, what happens if that career choice doesn't work out? What happens when that company goes belly up and now you got to become an accountant or take on some other type of career choice where now you have companies that are literally you are applying to some of these bigger companies and they are taking your name and they have entire stabs of people that are hunting for shit.
They are looking at your social media. They are checking you out on the internet because they're very paranoid about their public image and whatever, all the yahoos and Googles and stuff like that. And so now they're looking for you. So you're not thinking about what happens if plan A doesn't go through.
Not, I mean, we can think about trusting your partner that they're not going to screw you that nobody's going to steal the camera. What just about what about your career choices? That's always that's something you're right. You got to take all that stuff into account.
I remember quite a while ago when you and you for started playing that at some point you had taken a picture of her that almost showed her face. Or something or did and you guys got together and realize that shit's got to come down now. That's too much. You were like utter careful.
Almost your nose kind of yeah. Yes. And so you can only hope you have partners like let's say yourself from you who are hyperly aware of that and are going to take extra care. But you know what can you do to mitigate that?
I honestly don't know Boogie. I have a couple ideas. Well, do late on this book idea number one. Check your ego.
I fucking hate that that for. Why do you need well it's supposed to annoy you. Good job boogie. You're annoying me.
Well, that's it's my job. That's what he did kind of in the post. Like what's the motivation for this picture? Is it for you to jack off to is it because there's a lot of competitiveness in people that take pictures and once again love that you're an exhibitionist love to look at your body.
Does it need to have your face in it? What is the motivation for that? Obviously if you're going to work in porn, they're not going to hire you if you wear a mask. There's enough people that are out in porn that you're going to have to have your face.
But most of the people are not that you see on fat life are not professional adult actors. So you have to really say what is it about that exhibitionism? We understand pussy power. We understand that that validation is incredible and powerful when you know that people are desiring you and that they are maybe satisfying themselves looking at you and that they pay you compliments and they tell you you're hot and that they would want to do things with you and to you.
And that that's a rush. It's a validation. You know, it can be good or bad validation, but either way it's some sort of validation. But you have to really ask why do I need that validation and do I need that validation so bad that I'm willing to put my future at risk by putting my face with it?
I think that's a generally good thing to do is always weigh the way the risks against what you're getting and majority of the time it's not going to be enough. I'd like to have this picture, but do I want to know? Oh, no, no, no, I don't want to risk that's going out there. Let's not take that picture.
No, what's wrong with a mask? You can have so much? Yeah. Yeah.
Well, it's just I think this isn't just pictures. I think it's how to protect yourself against anyone who then turns out to be an asshole and fucking uses you or abuses your trust. And that's just always going to be a theme, whether it's a picture or whether they just steal your money or anything. People are assholes and they can turn on a dime and it's always going to be a tough life lesson to learn.
Don't lend money to boyfriends. That was one of you's first rule. Don't stand on rolling chairs. Don't put your hair in fans, which she failed even after we set up the rule.
And then don't squish bugs with daddy's shirt was another one that she had. Oh, like what she you had to make a rule for that really? Yeah, because what she's squishing with your with your dirty old tank tops. Enough.
No, she would wear my long sleeve shirts. You know, the girls, you know, you play and that's like a whole like, you know, skin of a lot. And then you get a skin of a lion thing that after you play, you know, they wear your long shirt is kind of a, you know, a nightgown kind of thing. And so she would always be wearing my big dress shirts.
And, and she, but she just is like, there's a fly. And I'm like, that's my shirt. You can't do that. And she's like, what?
And I'm like, that's my, that's my shirt, but I'm wearing it. So we had to make a rule. Don't kill bugs with daddy's shirt. It happened multiple times.
Oh my God, that's hilarious. I could just see little me running around with when he's just squashing bugs. She does. She swaddens flies with the sleeves because they hang like 12 inches past her arms.
And I'm like fly swatter. That's mine. How did we go from a great post about pictures to me with swatting flies with your shirt? I mean, it's cute.
So you look and swish bug guts on my shirt. Can you throw that? Can you throw that? Don't hang that up, honey.
Honey, can you please just put that in the wash? Okay, daddy. Damn it. And there she goes, lapping around in your big old flops.
Jesus Christ. She's cute. And there's a lot of times that I walk in the love lab and see her wearing this massively oversized shirt walking around in these massive flip flops of yours. It looked like some honey.
I shrunk the cute chick movie shit. She was a big tall Amazon woman and then Rick ran a shranker down. And once again, we have gotten off the topic. It was a good post.
Great post. Yes. Thank you again. Mr.
O for giving us permission. Gee, I wonder what Mr. O means. Overies?
Just one? Overies. Mr. Overies.
Hello. This is my girlfriend, Fallopian. Ew. That's my cousin, Eudress over there.
Oh my God. It's my dog, Hymen. Stop it. Gross.
Hymen. Maybe I'm a Jora, I'm a Nora, please come to dinner. How is she going to learn the parts of the vagina if you don't like make up little names? I'm going to move on now.
Yes, please. Is Kiki World News 8 Social Enigma? I don't know that's a nigma. He should know B.
He's got the same name. Let's dig the fuck into it. Then let's just do that's enigma. Yes.
Enigma, how have you been doing? I'm doing pretty well. I've gone back to work as a delivery driver because I have to make money because our country is great. But...
Dig. It's a little. Just going back to work and getting used to that routine again. It's been kind of nice because it gets me out of the apartment so I'm not just sitting here jerking off all day.
Not that that is an important work, Enigma. No, no, I perfectly encourage jacking off from all people but sometimes you need a break. Yes, even you. Yes, even me.
With my masturbation share and my theatre that I set up in my bed so I don't have to do that. Even with those things. That's right, I forgot you have like a whole hillow structure. Yes, that is fantastic and horrifying at the same time.
You're welcome. Two head guys talking about potential the awkward key stuff. So let's dig into some boot worship. Yes, so just start things off.
Both of the articles that we're talking about today do come from vice.com. So if you're interested in checking out you can go to website directly or you can come check out our Discord and I link all of our articles there. So the first one that we're getting into is called a history of a brief history of bootlicking. And it talks about where the origins of bootlicking come from.
In a lot of circles the term bootlicker is often used as an insult to someone much in the same way that you call someone a brown noser. It usually used in political circles specifically over in Europe. So if you're supporting the queen because you did something that a normal person would do but you're glamorizing what the queen did then you are a bootlicker to the queen. And our circles bootlicking is actually a pretty common finish.
It's a whole different world. Well, yeah, you often find it used in like humiliation play or extreme submission play. Sure. But of course its origins are still very much linked to the political insult.
That's where they came from. And the act of bootworship itself came out of two subcultures in the late 20th century. The leather culture and the skin head culture. That's another term for neo-Nazi.
I gotta say I was like, then I guess it kind of made sense after you start to read the article. I mean go ahead we'll talk about it a little bit but I was just it was pretty dumb-founding. Yeah, when I first read the article it definitely blew my mind because I've definitely had a couple of friends who were very much into submission and making people do things like this. So as we're talking about there are many who see a dichotomy of ideals with the origins of the bootlicking as the insult and where it came from and how it is used now usually in leather culture.
So it's kind of that split between using it in play and where it's coming from. But for many being a bootlicker and actually bootlicking are the same thing. It's about being extremely subservient. I mean BDSM as a whole is often used as a way to reclaim a person's agency over an act or an insult that once put them down.
But it's still good to know the origin of what you're getting into. So it's just a really interesting article that I found that it was just it gave an insight on something that I don't think about. A lot of people give a whole lot of thought about. Absolutely not.
And of course when I came into the lifestyle, I don't know what 11, 12 years ago, there was still in the Los Angeles area, still quite a bit of leather activity. So boot worship and especially in the gay leather community, boot worship, bootlacking was a big thing. And I think it started more with maybe like the article talks about where it's about extreme degradation and putting someone in their place down at the master's feet. But then I think bootblacking, which is like the polishing of boots and the worship of boots and the connection of the boots as kind of a vessel to the dominant or master became almost more spiritual in a sense.
Where it wasn't necessarily like complete, you are under my feet, it was a way for the bottom or the submissive slave to use their energy to build up the master. And that became very interesting to see and to learn about, especially when I was new, like I had a lot of fascination with it, but to hear that it's roots come from such a, I mean in a sense, a dark place because you know the original skinheads, like some of the article talks about is where the one of the original skinhead leader guys did gay porn and a lot of that was a lot of racial slurs and that whole basis in racism associated with that type of denigration. But then to see it all of a sudden, and it's like a lot of things, you know, that some things may have had their roots in something completely nefarious and then it was interesting to see how it then evolved into something like I do boot worship with bunny and it's like beautiful. There's not really a lot of humiliation involved in the boot worship that her and I do.
It's very, I don't like to use the word spiritual, but it is very spiritual and it's exceptionally spiritual for her where it is that vessel not just to me, but through me and out to the universe and then by licking the boots and that worship, it goes beyond me and then gathers power from the universe and brings me to the end. And then it's like, I'm not going to use that back into her. So it's like completely a different way of approaching boots than the, you know, you're my servant. I am over you kind of thing.
And our very own owl is very much into boots and keeping a boot clean. Like that was her job. A couple of kinklabs for a little bit was to help like polish boots and clean boots into like boot worship. I think definitely has a very, and she comes out from a very much a service submission sort of directions.
Right. Right. I was very into, oh my God, I missed that. Oh my God, I need another goddamn love lab.
Okay, no, no, stay in the present. Stay with Kathy and I talked about it earlier. Stay in the moment. This is never going to get better.
We just have to make, I have to figure out a way to get owl to be of service to me without a love lab. Right. I don't know. I wonder if you could virtual virtual clean like send her something in the mail and have her polish.
And then fuck it. What? Did I say that out loud? Yeah, I did say that out loud.
I mean, you did say it out loud. I have heard of people using their juices for polish. So like that's a, that could be a thing. Yes, I could send her.
Al, I'm sending you a guitar and I would like you to service polish it with your vagina. And just imagining like her going up the guitar and like one of the strings pop and just like, oh that tension or whatever vagina worshiping my guitar. And then, you know, I'm kind of picturing like what could like the little arms, the little wings that go out of the electric guitar, you know, she could probably rub up against. And what were we talking about?
Boots. Oh, looking at Nazis and bears. Oh my. This was a fascinating article and I know we're joking around with it and and and.
Ah, fuck it. It was funny. No, no, I mean, I'm enjoying the mental image as well. So like I'm into that.
I was going to go even darker and be like, never know. No, no, I'm not going to do it. Just going to stop. Let's move on to the next quite interesting topic.
I mean, you asked for something different. Okay. And I provide, you know, you never shock me, but you amaze me at what you, what you come up with Enigma. And this is going to be, I actually had to do a lot of thinking about this because at first it was, you know, you're like, ha ha joke, judgment.
And then you got to kind of look at it and look out as a technique and what do I think about such things. So why don't you go ahead and just get into this topic? I definitely can. So this topic again comes from vice.com and it's called coronavirus is a golden age for people sucking their own dicks.
So boredom and horniness come together to drive a research into people learning about audio flatio. First off the article is way longer than expected an article on self sucking would be. But the article does follow one guy's journey into exploring this subculture, this obscure art with a subreddit made, when a subcode made him remember that he could almost get there as a team. And so the adventure began again, the quarantine with the editing else to do.
So historically, the practice of self sucking goes back to actually thousands of years. They have images of God sucking themselves, medieval literature as people self sucking alongside images of anal sex and masturbation. And so people in modern times feel that self sucking creates sort of this self generating energy with yourself. So kind of like you're talking about these spiritual connection with blacking, there are some that feel that self sucking brings that to them as well.
I am sucking the God within me back into the God within me. Exactly. I'm sorry, it should sound funny. I'm sorry.
Okay, I'll come back. No, no, it's good. It's good. So one of the gurus on this talks about how control of one sperm leads to infinity and through infinity to a new world.
And in my brain that turned into buzz. You're going to infinity and beyond. So actually with someone who I'm going to get wrong. Probably because he's buzz light.
You're sucking his own dick. And then a little beeping when the laser goes off. So his name is Buzz. Oh my God.
He met Zerg. Okay. This is bad. This is bad.
It's only day for me. I just, you know, it's okay. It's okay. So for the Reddit user, it has very little to with sexual sexuality specifically, but with pleasuring himself in a different way.
So this actually goes back to an article that we talked about a few weeks ago, where talking about how masturbation and learning about your own body and what your body can do is a good way to pass the time in the coronavirus as opposed to just drifting off like you always do. Trying to explore and find out new things in this guy. A little adventurous. A little.
Pretty adventurous. And I think we should preface this as a preverted podcast that tries to speak about safety. This can be something that is not going to happen for you if you venture to try it. The article is more about the process.
The majority of people will never be able to stretch and yoga and hot bath and stretch and yoga themselves into a position where they could do that. And so they really preface safety and not rolling back on your neck and killing yourself while trying to suck your own dick. But it is more of that kind of like you talked about that adventure with yourself to, you know, push yourself to get closer. If that's something that is kind of a fantasy or fetish for you because obviously it's the old joke.
If a guy could suck his own dick, he'd never leave the house. And, you know, that obviously brings up thoughts, you know, because in the article talks a lot about those insecurities or confusions that you would have about your own sexuality. Like if I got to the point where I was actually sucking myself off, you know, does that make me gay or does that make me something? Does that make me submissive because I'm dominating myself to suck my own cocker?
However that works in your head. Right. And you really kind of have to, you know, my first gut instinct now is when you say, does sucking your cock make you gay? My gut response now is who gives a fuck?
Yeah, exactly. Can we just get past this? As long as everybody's consenting and everybody is on board, it's fine. Yeah, you know, pick the title that makes you happy, I guess.
But really, if this is your desire, if your desire is to have a penis in your mouth or up your ass or anything penis, that's you. Yep. Just, you know, what's the big deal? Now, of course, I'm not going to avoid jokes because I thought this shit was funny and awkward and probably not the prettiest sight in the world to see some.
I've rolled on my back when I was really like lonely or drunk or, you know, and said, well, how close can I get in it? Nowhere, not even anywhere. No, I mean, like this is not, no. And after about two minutes, I'm like, this is not hot.
This is, there's nothing. And I'm not that into blowjobs. So giving myself a blowjob just seems kind of like, you know, it's just definitely not something I would commit to. Right.
Or something I think I'd be really that into. But it was interesting to think about who I am sexually and how being able to do something like that or to think about something like that. That I just need to just let go. And if that's what you're into, that's what you're into.
Right. And what's really good is this guy through the article kind of circles around. Like he has a place that he can go to and get that sort of information on Reddit and other websites that are like dedicated to the narrative self-sucking. That like, so you can do it.
Like you're talking about be careful about rolling onto your neck, be careful about positions. How did you like, I think the fact that you, there are so many resources for people now that if you have something that you're interested in or you're curious about, it's just a quick Google search and you're going to have some really good information that you can start the exploration while everybody is locked down being safe. Now then here's the thing that I really want to get into. And that is because I always have to do some mind fucking in any topic.
There can be nothing in a sense that doesn't have the potential of having some shitty dark underlying meaning. And that is if you're going to be someone, because you've heard a lot of these jokes, you know, I never leave the house. I wouldn't have to deal with women. I wouldn't have to deal with people.
I could just stay home and suck my own dick and play video games and it would be a perfect existence. There is something in me that puts up a little warning flag and says, is the desire to pleasure myself at that, like, what a lot of people think low jobs are the ultimate, you know, sensation. Is that you trying to get away from intimacy or fear of rejection from other partners? And is that something you have to look at?
Are you really interested in sucking your dick or are you just trying to replace the fact that maybe you feel you can't get a date or you can't be in a relationship or you can't maintain a relationship or you don't understand, you know, the people that you're attracted to. And so you're like, fuck it, I'd rather just suck my own dick. I'm sure that there are people that those people exist, but I definitely don't think that that's a majority. I think most people who go into it is kind of, especially right now, like, one of the things it's kind of a funny part is like a lot they say that having goals over quarantine is good because they're not.
Because I give you something to look forward to, like having something to work on that also might be kind of fun. I think that's more of a positive thing, but I don't think sucking your own dick is definitely going to take away from intimacy elsewhere. Okay, pandemic checklist, learn Japanese acrylic or watercolor painting and how to stuff my own cock in my mouth. All right, good goals, good meeting with myself with the bookdays on the calendar, put in some time and get through this goddamn pandemic.
And next up, I'm going to take this 12 inch cock in my eyes, but that'll be after the next second. So let me ask some personal awkward questions. Go for it. If you had the ability to suck your own ween, would you?
Are you interested in that? I've thought about it before. I'm not really interested in men and men's penises so much, but like, strap on, because I am a switch, so having a female person in a dominant role has been kind of sucking on a dick like thing is kind of fine, pretty sexy, but sucking my own dick. I'm a chubby dude, so if I could be that flexible, that would be pretty awesome, but it wouldn't be a sexual thing necessarily.
Because it would hurt. It would hurt. It would hurt. It would hurt.
It would hurt. It would hurt. Just be pain and cracking ribs and displace spine and probably paralysis. I mean, if I, yes, I mean if I did it right now, yes, all of those things would happen.
But like, I mean, I enjoy blow drops, but like, they're not like, I don't need a blow drop, so like, I don't think that this would be on my to do list over over coronavirus for sure. Yeah, I think I'm going to work on the face to face sexual exploits with partners less about myself. I mean, I jerked myself into a nosebleed, you know, last week. I heard that.
Yeah, so I think that was about, I think if I tried to suck my own dick, that would literally be. That would literally be an interesting funeral to attend, you know, as my, you know, body rigomortices into that shape. And they can't undo me. And they're like, ah, just, you know, leave him that way in the viewing.
And like my grandmother would be like, he got so close. Just a couple more inches, boogie. She's dead. I mean, she wouldn't have said that.
She probably would have said that. That's good. That's good. That's a port of family.
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Love to reach your letters. I love those styles. We gonna reach your letters above our mailbox. All right, Boogie, I have our favorite path girl.
Our favorite geeky girl is back to give us Lay some science on us. That's why I depend on her. All right. Well, this time she wrote to us about how she, as she put it, your nose bleed after violently masturbating.
Oh, dear God. Apparently, remember that we invoked the name path girl saying, oh, she's gonna weigh in on this. Sure enough, she weighs in and she tells us, I will start with the usual disclaimer that I am not a doctor or a nurse and you should always seek medical attention for any medical advice. Well done, path girl.
And goes on to say, any sexual activity can raise your blood pressure slightly or moderately. But the average person, even with a moderate increase in blood pressure, should not be having a spontaneous nose bleed after orgasm. I'm the winner! Which she says, what I would bet money on is that you coming from polluted California and then going to the very clean living of Texas, plus going from stale car air to air conditioning has aggravated your sinuses.
A little extra pressure for whatever reason, with over dried sinuses and ta-da, that could be your nose bleed. An easy fix for that would be using saline nasal spray from the 9-inch sensor or a neti pot to clean and moisten your nasal passage. Boogie, you have to moisten your nasal passage. I don't even put lube when I jerk off.
Now I'm supposed to be for masturbation, I'm supposed to be able to get my neti pot out. Excuse me, why not? Excuse me, my sinuses, probably lube. I have this Asian girl on girl butt porn.
Ow! Well, you know what, if you push yourself that hard to come during masturbating, I think you're going to have to pull out the old nasal spray. And she's, thanks to the path girl. She says, so it's something to look at if it happens again, but if there is other stuff going on with it, then of course, please see your doctor.
But you are much more likely to die from giving yourself a heart attack, fucking all these young girls, rather than by a violently masturbating nose bleed. But it would make for a very interesting episode of Sex Set Me to the ER. Thanks. Thanks so much for that optimism, path girl.
That should crack me up. And then she finishes it by saying, and Kathy, you are never an afterthought. You are an ice cream sandwich fetching, boogie wrangling, Jewish mother shrieking sex goddess of gink and love. Love you guys, path girl.
Oh, path girl. How do I love you? Let me count the ways. I wonder if she'd bought him to you.
I'll leave path girl alone. OK. That's hot. No, you don't want to alienate our only path girl, path to saw you.
You could dominate path girl. Don't alienate. The only person who actually has some wisdom she can lay on it. So what?
Badly can you fail? Like is she going to explode if you tell her to stick a finger in her ass? Well, you leave the girl alone. Why is it always you got to go after every girl that writes to us?
Huh. Did I stop you? I'm like, wait a second. Hello, my name is Count Boogie.
And you, your name is Cathy. I'm a big old boy. You are Cathy. This is a show called perverted podcast.
I named the show perverted podcast. I think I see where you're going with this. I have nosebleeds because I masturbate too hard and don't have my netty pot with me. Perhaps this should just be something that you would expect like water being wet.
I don't know what I was thinking. All right. Bass wrote to us. I do not even know if I'm pronouncing that right.