At least, I got your mother kinky, so kinky, because he gives, we can fly. Are you munching on ice? Mm-hmm. Like, is it that good, crushy ice?
Like, okay, let's talk ice. No, it's just ice. There's cube ice crunching, which is like not cool, but then there's that like, crushy, shredded ice stuff. That chewing on that is like crack.
No, it's just, it's regular chunks of ice that I then stick it to my giant maw and just are crushing it. And your giant maw? Like, you just open up a hatch like an ice shredded, like a snow cone machine? Is that, the cat he's face is now a snow cone machine?
Go ahead. For our listeners, give our listeners a good ice crush go. Ha! Ha!
Ha! I'm putting my cup down now. I don't know why that gave me so much joy. Let's be professional and actually do a professional show, Boogie.
What? I know. Oh, god damn it, fine. That means we have to start the show.
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Recording through Zencaster this evening at 6 p.m. instead of A, because Boogie is a whiny little bitch. I'm Denny. What?
I trusted you. I am K So she can be a dinner and like relax after a long day of work. We are now arguing like children in front of the listeners. I swear to god our listeners are like, I will pull this show over and separate you two right now.
They so do not. They love watching the train wreck that is the show. No, they don't. They're gonna pull over the show, Kathy.
So you better stand correct. Wow, I have to up my game, huh? I think we both have to up our game. There is a lot of fun stuff coming in the show.
It's gonna get a little silly and some of the topics that we're gonna get in for sure. But I just want to say Kathy, I had a new epiphany and a new revelation. You know, normally when someone says that to me, I'm like very interested, but you know, over the years, Boogie, you've said that to me so many times it has lost its luster. Well, I didn't say I was gonna change your fucking life, Kathy.
I just said I had an epiphany. You know, maybe you just, you know, have a little high expectations of me that somehow my words are going to grace you with some sort of elation and joy. It's kind of expected in the word epiphany, you know? No, epiphany just means I had an awareness that I didn't I didn't have.
So there's no trumpets. There's the Shirley None for me. But it was a good epiphany. We were whining little girl and just tell me what it is.
Shut up! I'm a little boy! A good little boy. Shut up and crush your eyes, ask about tits.
Listen, here's the epiphany and it came about by force. This was not my choice. This was absolutely not because I'm kind of a guest here, you know? So I, you know, they watched their own TV shows in the main room and I hide in my cave, you know, and I work on the show and come up with things.
And then I come out and I want to be social, but they're watching things. And it's like, because there's a fucking kid and it's like, you know, Disney, like, oh, it's like saved by the bell minus 13 brain cells. Me. Like that's every show they watch.
And then every now, you know, we watch Moana like literally every other night. So, you know, it's a lot of Disney and Pixar and stuff like that. Some of it's cool. Some of it's real mind draining.
And then every now and again, Leah, just so we can feel better about ourselves, we'll put on like a shitty reality show. And then we watch it and you get very angry watching these things. Oh yeah. Because they're super highly produced.
They only pick the biggest train wrecks to be on the show. And then the biggest train wrecks that the producers, the big team of producers can kind of manipulate into the story that they want to tell with the train wreck. That is the life of all the people on the reality show. And that's in a nutshell, every reality show that's ever been been taped.
Right. This one, Kathy made me realize the epiphany was that you, Kathy, at age 54, and I boogie at age 52, have got it all wrong about our level of wealth. What? We have been wrong.
Wrong in our point of view, because you and I, Kathy, are rich. We are so rich, Kathy. We are rich, like fricking kings. We are rich.
How do you figure this? Because I watched a show called 90 Day Fiancé. And I tried not to. I would literally get up and go, I can't do this.
This is so awful. 90 Day Fiancé was basically six train wreck guys or five train wreck guys and one train wreck girl that all went to other countries to basically get a mail order bride and bring them home. And they had 90 days on camera to either develop true love or the person goes home to their home country. Why have I never heard of this?
Kathy, Kathy, I'm telling you, other than the epiphany, it was bad. Like bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, so bad. And I'm like, can we please just watch fucking Lilo and Stitch or something, please? So the whole premise of the show is basically people that are so kind of awkward and fucked up that they can't have a real relationship.
They don't know how to communicate with someone. So they went on to like international online dating sites and whatever. And of course, your first response is this is a green card scam that people in the other countries are trying to get to America so they can get a green card blah blah blah blah. Which in a lot of cases, it seems like that was probably true.
And it wasn't so much the disaster of these awkward relationships and their stupid petty fights and their complete lack of communication and then the families come in, these giant families from all these places around the country. And it's just Kathy, you and I avoided that. I see where you're going with this. Because now I'm in like small town, Texas.
It's all everything's just family and everyone's petty fucking drama. And this person did this and gossip and that's how it is. That's how it is in so many families that it's like, oh, we gotta get married. And then it's you got to punch the clock so you can be a good little sheep.
And I don't know, maybe I'm sounding completely snobby and self-righteous, but I feel so grateful that I dodged that bullet. So you're saying that we because we escaped that we should consider ourselves fortunate. Yes, rich. Right.
Brilliantly rich. And I'm not telling. And out of all the couples, there was this one guy that was from, I don't know, from Texas or whatever. And then the girl was from South Africa.
They seemed pretty legit and they communicated pretty well. And she was really on top of her game. So it didn't seem green cardi, you know, that, okay, out of the six, that one looked pretty good. And the rest were just, you know, lies and kind of weirdness and awkward and oh my god, I am so glad.
I mean, there's so many times where I feel like I missed out on so much in life. But being in a small town where everything is about family and, you know, family is the main focus. And I'm not saying, you know, it's bad to have family or whatever, but you have to be around, you know, maybe you got two or three people in your family that you're like, I like this aunt or I like this cousin or I get along good with this parent or whatever. But these other 59 fucking people I would never talk to if my life depended on it.
But I have to talk to them every month because they're family quote unquote. Yeah. No, I. And then you get married, you double that.
Right. Well, I can't, I can't say that life ever appealed to me. I knew from a very early age, I never wanted to get married and I never wanted to have kids. And I jettisoned so much of my family from my life because I didn't see any reason why I should be hanging out with people that I was company I didn't enjoy.
And so I, I don't feel that I dodged a bullet. I feel like I was pretty clear on that from the beginning. I think I having been raised by my mom that that was one really great gift she gave me was that this fuck everybody else and don't do what you want, not what's expected of you, which I think we're going to get into into some of these topics. And then of course, this last nine minutes of ranting, I realized that maybe I just completely offended and insulted like America and people and everyone that is married.
I mean, naturally you're always going to offend somebody when you're not, you don't want their lifestyle, you know, and that, you know, we get easily offended. So yeah, you're right. You probably pissed off a good chunk of our listener way to go, boogie. Well, you know, I'm a lone wolf, Kathy.
Is that what you call it? I got a room. That's me. Got a big L right on my chest like Laverne, but it's lone wolf.
Anything happened with you, Kathy? I'm in a weird place. Sorry. You are.
You're like, I forgot there's somebody else on the show. Yes. Yes, you. I, unfortunately, I really not a lot to contribute.
Because I hurt my leg a little over the weekend. So there was no kinky fun. There was just a regular weekend. I'm all man, what am I?
Just a regular domestic partner here with hanging out and doing dishes? This is bullshit, man. That's a 90 day fiance bullshit. Yeah.
Well, I can't do much. You know what I mean? I hurt myself and he didn't want to hurt me further. So he's, you know, whatever.
Well, couldn't, couldn't you have just fingered here or something? He doesn't finger me. That's not the key. How many times do I have to tell you?
He has no interest in my vagina other than to stick his dick in it. That's it. You got to stop all that crazy salsa dancing strip club shit that you do. I'm actually not going to tell you what I did to her my life because all I'm going to get is judgey, judgeyness from you.
Oh, come on. Come on. Go back. No.
That life is the place where you want to cornplay. But then they fuck each other in the ass with their horns because that's the kind of freaky shit that happens on that life. Then they fuck each other in the ass with their horns because that's the kind of freaky shit that happens on that life. I feel like I'm Adam Sandler when I sing that.
Why are you a piece of mind, please? No, the other of every post we talk about has specifically granted as permission to do so. This week we have a returning author, Zara180, who has let us use her post before. Thank you very much.
And she wrote something called, come spit and other icky, the yumminess of grossness. In which she says, oh boy. Oh boy. Ah, that's going to be good, boogie.
Which is going to be real good. Let's dig in. She says, I remember taking a shower when he walked in, sat on the toilet and pooped. The shower curtain was clear, so I could see him and vice versa.
We talked about whatever and I duly noted that he was shitting right there in front of me. I thought, wow, we're doing this now. And you know what? I kind of loved it.
Now I'm not going to sing the praises of scat, not my thing. In fact, it's a hard limit. But what I loved about that moment was the openness, his uttered lack of shame. As someone who has been burdened with a tremendous amount of shame, this is absolutely amazing to me.
Now I never proved in front of him, but I certainly peed in front of him and often. He reminded me as he lounged in the bathtub watching, I lick where you peed. Don't use the other bathroom pee in front of me. Then there was the one time that he inspected my armpits for ingrown hairs.
And another time that we were fucking in, I had my period. I even had a lover who wanted me to spit in him and another who spat on me. Then of course there is cum. I love it.
I want it in me and on me. I want to massage it into my body and lick it off of a cock or wherever it may land. I don't even have qualms about my own cum. Why I just lick my fingers after masturbating just the other day and that was fucking awesome.
Am I gross? Am I just wanton and incorrigible? Or maybe just maybe I revel in this freedom, because after being restrained for years by the idea of what a proper lady does and does not do, I really love giving that burdening repression a hearty fuck you. Clack, clack, clack.
Everyone wants to just dance around and spit in fluids all over the place. Just like this blue, spinning, human, whirly bird of grossness, I had many thoughts about this. Many thoughts that went far beyond the freedom that you have in front of your partner when you just are able to pee and fart and poop. But just to go back to the pee and fart and poop first, it really is true.
I mean, I'm sure you can remember just like, like I can remember being much younger and the horror, the horror of being on a date or being with a new partner that you're all in lovey-dovey land with. And you want to present this perfect human that would never fart or burp or have some sort of human thing occur. And being on a date and literally having like a gas ball eat up like half of your body in cramps and you're looking for some excuse to be able to let it and just that pressure was insane. That pressure to not be.
And then when all of a sudden you finally get to a point in your life and some people have still never gotten to it, I've met lots of them to where you're like, I am a human being and human beings are gross and messy and there's fluids and smells and some of them aren't pretty and fortunate you are if you are somebody that's very into odors and stuff like that because it's, you have a heyday, you have a heyday of smells from every human being, but how glorious the day that you not only accept that for yourself but with your partner and you help them feel that these are not things that make me judge you as a person because it would be ridiculous because part of being a person is that you accept that they are human and that means you fart. Right. Now I mean I can understand how not everyone, someone can appreciate it while not necessarily reveling in it, so when we were younger and my parents were still married, my dad was not a bad person, he was just non-existent. I mean he never hit us, he never beat us, he may as well not have been there.
So when my parents finally, but he was, he comes from a background, it's a Latin American background and it's rather oppressive. I never liked having that male, oppressive male attitude in the house, it was him or his brother or his father, who was always kind of by default running the energy of that whole family into the ground and the house just permeated that oppressive attitude and I absolutely hated it. And I can remember just barely being 12 years old when they divorced and suddenly it was as if this cloud lifted and the house became this just amazing place to be in where my mom who was a single working mom and she was independent and she'd gotten her newfound freedom and she was going out dating and having her friends come over and suddenly the house was just filled with women, was my aunt and my other aunt and her friends and my friends coming over and it was so suddenly so common for somebody to be sitting on the toilet, having a conversation with someone else standing out in the hallway, it just didn't matter because it was all women, we didn't have to hide anything anymore. And so I understand that kind of freedom that comes from saying fuck you to society and everything that you've been expected to do.
I'm not like her in that I will be okay with someone taking a dump in front of you because I find the smell so offensive that no amount of, hey that's cool, in front of me is going to make me be okay with it. But now I think that's important to point out that it doesn't mean that there's not a time and a place for certain things. It doesn't mean that oh my god I'm so free, I'm gonna fart and I have ranked Reiki farts and I'm gonna ruin everyone's dinner at the meal because I'm having bad gas that day or something like that. It also doesn't excuse poor hygiene.
Well I'm a free fucking human so I don't have to brush my teeth or I can eat garlic and then come breathe right in your face and you love me because I'm a human right? No, no, no, no, let's not go crazy. There's still consideration of your partners and especially like me I have super sensitive smell. So a lot of smells can become very overpowering to me.
So I'm very sensitive to my own smells like oh is my armpit smell, do I have gas? Have I brushed my teeth enough before I kiss somebody? I'm just really obsessed about that because it's sensitive. So we're not saying that part of that freedom is to go and impose your smells on other people.
You still wash yourself and have hygiene but it means that if worse comes to worse then we fart in front of each other. Yeah it's not the end of the world. Then this is human. That you bleed, that you have a period.
That we know you're gonna bleed during that period. And then we throw down a towel, we fucking the shower. We're not gonna be hung up on those things. And that gives so much freedom.
That gives so much, just it's okay to be human. Yeah, in this I hate, thanks that always makes me sound so traditional in common because I wanna be a, you know, not, I wanna be very uncommon. But unfortunately for me when I'm with a partner and we start doing all those things where, you know how you start grooming each other and. Right.
Are you a pimple popper? Yes, I am here. Jesus, you and Mew, literally I don't know what it is. It's a female primate thing or something.
But like literally 70% of all women I have ever dated. Like you're just sitting there. You're like, oh this is nice. And next thing you know, you become a secondary entity to the hunt for a blackhead on my shoulder.
You don't understand as we are. No, I'm just explaining it. We are obsessed with our skin from a young age, whether it's a pimple or a hair or a blackhead. We look into these 10 times magnifying mirrors for all day freaking long.
Trying to find any little wayward hair or anything that needs to be removed. So when we see it in a partner, especially someone we love or we really like or we have sex with and we see how completely oblivious that man is, we have to take over because you guys clearly can't be trusted to take care of yourselves. I have a divot in my shoulder. That is Mew's literal blackhead divot.
That was a blackhead like four years ago. And there's a hole in them like every couple months she goes and works on it and digs her nails and I'm like, what do you do? I have to clean out my divot. It's her divot in my shoulder.
Oh, what the fuck bro? Well, she's gonna be a doctor. That's totally it. Hey, by the way, have you ever tasted your own cum?
Yes. Yes I have. And at that moment, it was one of those things where you're like, all right, well, I'm supposed to try this if I'm like, you know, modern, not hung up liberal man. And so I put a little swab in my mouth and I instantly went, I will never insist that a woman swallow my cum again, ever, ever.
Which I wasn't hung up on. Like if you want to jerk and spit or not even just, I'll always warn, I am a Warner. I am someone that's like, I'm going to cum. I mean, I don't cum a lot, but if I do, I'm gonna give warning.
And if you want to pull it out and finish me off with a Herky Yurky, that's totally okay. That shit is fucking nasty. I don't know what combination of what. And I know some people love it.
And I'm just like, that's all you babe, but I'm not forcing ya. Yeah, I mean, I actually wish I did like it. I don't hate it. It's not a vile taste to me.
I just, you know, there's nothing I like about it. And that regard, I just don't want it in my mouth. It would make life a whole lot easier if I did like it because it would make me a very desirable partner. Cause I guess guys like it when women swallow their cum?
Some do, I don't, I don't cause if I don't want to kiss you afterwards because I don't like the, I want to be like shallow guy that I'm like, oh, you're defiled, get away from me. Oh, that's terrible. But you have no problem. I'm like, if I tasted, which I have tasted my own cum, would you have a problem with that?
Like if your partner tasted it, if your partner tasted her own cum and then kissed you. Oh, no, we do that shit all the time. Like I mean, I eat their fucking cunt. You know, so I'm tasting that.
I actually tasted not just myself, but after I had my period too, to see what it would taste like. Yeah, yeah, I'm using to the blood thing. So she's like, oh, it's okay. Like I fucked her when she was on her period.
And then she went down on me and I'm just looking at her and I'm like, just let her have it. She's well aware of what's going on. And she's like, nah, it wasn't a big deal. Tastes irony.
She likes blood, yang, yang, yang, yang. And I'm like, just, hey, man, that's cool, cool, bro. But here's, let's move away. I mean, we were gonna go gross on this little thing.
Which is fun. That's the thing that's all so cool. Is it's fun to be human and to giggle about farting with your partner and whatever. And of course, if it smells, then you make jokes.
Oh my God, you're killing me. And there's laughter and it's innocent and it's human. And you're not hung up, that is wonderful. But another thing that letting go of that, whatever burden, anchor, if you're in a relationship that's willing to let go of that, then hopefully that means you're also going to be in a relationship that allows other types of freedoms in that relationship that are usually very oppressed.
Like permission to say no, not just permission to fart, but you also have the permission to say no. You have permission to laugh. You have permission to have an opinion. You have permission to have a feeling whether it's based in logic or not, but you have that permission as a human being to have a feeling and that that's valid.
And then we'll work through the feeling after that, but it's okay to have a feeling, to be messy in a conversation where you don't have to worry about the other person getting angry and raging on you because you start with, hey, this is going to be messy and I want us to communicate. So don't get angry. This is these, I'm trying to work this out. So let's just be messy.
And then ask me what I mean instead of just flying off the handle. Do you understand? So it starts with having a good fart together. But once you start shedding those things to where you can have that freedom in your relationship, you get to actually just be a human with your partner.
And those relationships, I found at least for myself in what I viewed, those relationships last a lot longer. That's very, very true. That's, it's a great post. Thank you once again to Zeruwain, for letting us troll for writings again.
I always love reading stuff like that where people have that freedom to say, fuck you to society. Those posts always, you know, enliven me. So this was a really great one. Lovers that fart together, stay together.
That's so true. We need another button. No button. Oh, stop it.
Those are pussy tastes like eggplant. And I'm talking clown. I just realized that I didn't warn in potato mayhem that I have done the Headlee interview. Oh.
I did it two nights ago. It was absolutely as wonderful and fun and interesting as I thought it would be. He is a fantastic character. I will not share any of that.
But we talked for a long time. And so I really want to spend the time to edit that properly. So I'm going to put that in for next week. I know we said last week that we were going to have Headlee on this week, but it's actually we're going to do it next week.
Now I've said it. Can you please continue? This is an unusual host topic because it was written to us in an email. And I thought, actually, I'd like to talk about this because this is a really good angle that most of us in any kind of community, be us in community, may not necessarily be aware of.
So this is Michael who wrote to us and said, I love the show. I love you guys. I'd like to see a discussion of an issue that I haven't seen covered much. How a lot of S&M porn helps to make some people kept in an S&M as abuse state instead of celebrating and enjoying our kinks as a way to enjoy our lives more and become more whole.
I can't speak for women, obviously, but I've seen this a lot in submissive men. He says, you search outborn for your kink and you see mostly punishment scenes with miserable guilt-ridden men being thrashed by femdoms who are almost always exhibiting disgust and contempt. Now this is a turn on, but without even realizing it, you think that that's the way it's supposed to be in real life. And then you go and visit pro-doms and you find that they are usually scripting the scene in the same way.
Lots of men who don't come out and find positive friends in the scene stay stuck in this space. And it deepens and intensifies their guilt, driving them further and further underground within themselves because they never experience kink as consensual fun and release. And that can be an internal cycle of abuse that becomes really toxic. I've been there.
It took me the longest time to realize that it didn't have to be that way and that it was possible to enjoy submission and pain as a release from guilt and low self-esteem instead of an intensification of both. I'd love to hear your thoughts on all this because so much of what you say on the show has helped me more than I can say. Well, that's very nice. Thank you, Michael.
I certainly always appreciate it when people tell us that they'd get something out of our meandering and rambling. So that's great. But this topic is really amazing because I never watched a lot of porn. I mean, I would watch the occasional stuff.
The only reason I never did was because it never really got me anywhere. I would be much happier looking at nudie magazines or fantasizing in my head. And so when I decided to start going and researching into the community, I found the club right down the street from me, literally. And I dived right in.
So I felt fortunate later on when I looked back at my life that I did find something so close by and that I started down that path. But it never really occurred to me that somebody who stays underground, like he says, and doesn't really understand that there's more to it than what you see, can flock themselves up because you do think that's what it is. And degradation and humiliation. I don't know why, but it is a big part of a femdom, male-submissive pornography.
And what people who stay within that and maybe only go to pro-doms, which is not a bad thing. This is not a put down on pro-doms because pro-doms are giving you what you want. You've asked for the porn experience and they're going to give it to you. But unfortunately, the drawback is that you never actually get to meet real people who are experiencing this and letting it into their lives.
And as a result, having discussions about it, going to classes about it, understanding being told and learning that you need to have discussions afterwards, you need to do a postmortem, you need to have some kind of aftercare. All these things that we take for granted because we learned them is completely lost to the average person who is not delving into the communities, instead simply diving into S&M porn. That's a dangerous fucking thing, man. I'm totally with you on this.
And I think it was wonderful to come in from this angle of the male-submissive and the porn, because of course, I don't think about that much because I don't watch a lot of female-dominant male-submissive porn. And I can surely see how that would keep people in that rut. So I'm very glad that he spoke specifically to that angle. However, I don't think it's any less common than the entire plight of the King Khabidi-SM, Sex Positive, Polyamorous, Alternative, Lifestyle Community.
Our entire community has this problem. To where we are portrayed in porn, we are portrayed in media, we are portrayed in bad erotica, mainstream erotica. And it shows sides of us that don't talk about aftercare. They don't talk about the meditation place that you go to in a play scene.
When it doesn't have to be about discipline, when it doesn't have to be about all of the things that you see in kind of the media exaggeration of the pain and suffering that is King Khabidi-SM. I think that is the general problem with our whole community, is that we don't get the exposure for people to see, this is porn and that's hot, that's great, but this is what we really do. For those of us that actually love it, where there's not a pay transaction that's going on, where the motivation is the top and the bottom are both there because the payment is the power exchange. The payment is the thing that we are receiving from each other, whether it be intimacy or power exchange or validation or pain and pleasure, that's our only pay.
And that's not really talked about and I was just talking to Leah about this a while ago and how frustrating that is that we know because we've experienced so many relationships that are kinky and all of the fun of negotiating and figuring out our partners and all the lessons that I had no idea of really before I got into the lifestyle. What a rip off. How hard it is because there's such great information. It's literally a life-changing event and nobody gets to hear it because we're busy selling bullshit and most of the media articles that come out.
The first thing they do is they go and find a professional Dominitrix and then they have the femme down there and all her Dominitrixy looking stuff and then there's male submissives crawling around. I've literally seen like 20 of these and that's our representation. So I think this is not just in what our poster is having a conflict. I think this is in general the problem that we have with our entire community.
That's very true. I mean a couple of weeks ago, Creative Explorer and I were playing and he was fucking me and I was fighting him and I was complaining and he just got tired of listening to me and just said shut up. So I'm like fine. I clamped down and didn't say anything because I was in total sub-emode and afterwards we you know he didn't know what he does.
He gets on the bed. He says, come here let's cuddle. He pets me and we have fun and we talk and it's really great. If he hadn't done that then he would just be the asshole who told me to shut up and I'd be like fuck you motherfucker.
I take that from anybody. I don't need no man. You can't hold my thunder. You don't hold me.
I don't need no man. What to do? So one is abusive and horrible and the other is utterly charming and I love it. So that's fucking night and day and that's one of the hardest things like you say to get the average person to understand who isn't into BDSM in any form.
That this is it's not what you see in porn. Porn is a they're play acting and they're putting on a scene and it's for a very specific purpose. And so and I thought it was great that Manti wrote to us because he's absolutely right. That's not something I have a lot of experience with because when I've topped guys I don't use a lot of humiliation and degradation but I've seen those some of that porn.
It's a it really is if you're looking at that and thinking that that's the way it is that these women are just hateful and you just have to take it and then slink away. You're in for a lot of trouble because that can fuck you up in the head man. That can really mess with with your sense of who you are. If you don't come down off of that you don't have someone who afterwards talks to you and and reinforces what a good person you are and that that was you either did it for hard of reasons you did it for sexual reasons because it was you know tenelating you did it for whatever reason but in the end you're a really great person.
If you don't have that bringing you back down to earth and all you have is continual sessions where someone is telling you how horrible you are. I just shudder to think with you're going to be what that person is going to be like after a few years. Well and even if you don't stick with something like that like you're like I'm not getting out what I really want it's just so sad because that part of you that wants something is never going to be satisfied because you don't know that anything else exists and so you're going to go away like we've had so many people and they have a bad first experience and they go away and there's no way to know. There's no way to hear unless they get into like vet life in the groups and they hear all the stories and the testimonials and things like that.
There's not a lot of places to go that talk about hey those are bad situations. What you see in that porno is fantasy and it's a very niche type of person that likes that most people like this. It really just I don't know I'm just sometimes I get really frustrated because I really do think we have the power to help people discover themselves and to help their families understand why their family members are kinky and what they get out of it because the families only see what they see in TV and so they're like you're into that. That's what you're curious about and then there's all that shame and judgment and oppression on that from your fucking family.
So it's just I don't know I just continually I hear stories like this and it is true. I just I wish we had a better reach. That's right thank you very much for writing to us. I was very brave.
I appreciate him putting some stuff out there like that. There's a place where a family of her first-year-old's was a list shoot the ship with that cayenne card can mail. It's stored is a police us freaks call home. Now then of course Mel is probably going to giggle a lot and I just want us to be prepared that that is okay.
It is okay for Mel to run off into her gigglespasms and it is okay for Aki to run into her kind of slutty fantasy thinking because sometimes when Aki speaks she goes off into that like I'm thinking about dick voice you know and I love that. I want you to know the listeners love that. So we are now ready. Are you guys ready to talk about discord?
I believe so. Okay that's not the optimism that the listeners need. I will ask it again. Are you ready to talk about discord?
Yo! Well perverted podcast listeners it is true we have Aki and garbage can Mel here to talk about some of the stuff that's going on in discord. We've been away for a little while. We're back but what's great is the discord group has actually been going really really strong.
How many members is the perverted podcast discord group up to? Yeah we're like 278 now. 278 for the people in perverted podcast land that aren't on the discord which is like three people apparently because everyone else is on the discord. What has discord meant to you guys during the shutdown is what I really want to talk about.
Oh my god the discord keeps me saying yet insane. It's crazy how much people have literally just come together and just like oh I just need to vent and talk and it's a nice little family. I love it. Yeah it's kind of my kinky group of friends.
I don't really have a everyday life group of people that I can talk to other than sorry you know so it really needs a lot to me. That is actually magnificent and surely the type of thing that was the goal of perverted podcast when we started was to create a place that people that don't have big communities can go to and it's just funny how our mission has now taken this other weird turn because of the and by the way we don't call it a pandemic anymore. We call it super happy dappy fluffy time. Super happy dappy fluffy time.
Everything's fine. You guys didn't hear it but trust me it was fucking amazing. So during super happy dappy fluffy time it's actually been more crucial to have something like the discord where people can come together like you guys are talking about and I just want to thank you guys really for just championing that and keeping that going because so many people now rely on it. I've heard from so many other perverted podcast listeners that are on the discord group which by the way, Aki how does somebody get on the discord group if they are not?
Oh all you have to do is get to the link it's available on the website pervertedpodcast.com or you can go through the FET Life group and it's actually sticking noted to the top. Now then we've talked about discord the entity I want to get into some of the shit you guys talk about in discord because I got a list from you and I got to say we got to start with the cougar roleplay thing. Now then of course we all talk about roleplays and I'm very big into roleplay and we talk a lot about it on the show but you guys have been talking about some roleplays. Please explain the cougar like student cougar roleplay thing.
What is this? Oh so the normal thing you hear is young school girl old teacher kinky fun times because they need a good grades. Well a lot of people now are just going back to school. What if you had a young student TA barely 25 who's just helping out?
Kid needs a good grade. Kid is not a kid. It is a 45 year old woman coming in needing to suck a dick to get an A. It's great.
That is awesome but just I know you guys are young but cougar is technically older than 45. Oh it's old for me I'm sorry. Oh my god you fucking children I swear to god. But it is kind of a cool idea and some people might not even think about that you know when they're in their relationship to have that kind of roleplay but it is awesome.
Yes absolutely. Why wouldn't an older man or woman who is in school trying to get a good grade get off the instructor. That is absolutely a credible way to get a grade as far as I'm concerned. I'll do whatever it means get nay.
That is the type of enthusiasm that we like on the show. Aki. Goddamn it. So let me ask you a question jumping off of this topic.
Have you guys ever had any big age differences where well you guys aren't that old but have you guys had any partners that were significantly younger than you? Like 18 who kind of gave me a scare saying oh I'm 17 and I'm like no no no no. Just for legal purposes on perverted podcast Aki did go and check the identification of that young person and find out that they were of a legal age right Aki? Oh several times I even asked for a birth certificate after that one.
So how old were you when you played with the 18 year old? I was 27 at the time. No actually no 28. So a 10 year difference not bad not bad not in count you know not in the count boogie league of age gaps but definitely pretty good.
Did you enjoy playing with somebody younger? Was there a difference between playing with someone your own age or playing with someone older? Well the only person I played near my age group is Unger and he's older than Jerk. It was nice it was nice with him it was very much like oh I'm new to everything and I love experiencing new things with new people.
So it was fun exploring well my mommy role actually. Oh very very cool Mel have you done an age gap with him younger? No I really don't have that much experience with other people. I've only been with Sir and we've been together since we were in high school I didn't know that.
Yeah we just had our 17th anniversary on Thursday. Look we're both Aki and I like oh that's just so precious and so totally weird and not happening in normal society. You're like a fucking alien of sex that's that's awesome and weird so high school. Yeah and you guys still talk and yeah and they're trying to new things and they're exploring their kinky life.
Yes we are. It's like how does that even happen? Well you should write a book. I don't know where I'm going with this actually.
I am in awe I think that's pretty goddamn cool. So okay let's move on here. You guys had a couple I want to get to this one because this is something I actually with my lovers I don't think I've ever had this conversation where they've had a situation becoming irritated when orgasming. Oh well that was actually something that I brought up.
Yeah it's happened to me a few times. This last time it was kind of sir just pounced on me basically and I guess I wasn't in the right headspace and I was just trying to navigate through that after the fact and talking to the fuck on discord. They kind of helped me figure things out and that's another one of those things that you know this works good for. So what exactly happened so you were kind of not in the right headspace you pushed through.
You had the orgasm so was it some type of what was the feeling after the orgasm. Well like the feeling afterwards was like it was like a nebulous kind of irritated feeling and I couldn't put my finger on it but I think it was you know the combination of the headspace and I was frustrated because I felt like I wasn't getting anywhere because he was going down on me and I just wasn't getting anywhere with that and then he pulled out the Hitachi and I don't know if it was the intensity of the Hitachi or what but it felt forced and then after that it was just her you know. So you literally got just pissed off. Yeah and it wasn't even at anyone it was just you know I couldn't really put my finger on it.
Accu you have that experience? Yeah I've had something similar but it was a little bit different in that I was the one who instigated and I wanted it but for some reason after the whole thing happened I was just pissed that I had the orgasm and I couldn't figure out if it was because it just happened too soon because I tend to fight my orgasm period or if it was just because my brain would know even though I instigated it. It's weird and also underhasing me full on go into tears after an orgasm and not know why I was basically falling on the bed even though I enjoyed it. So I'm guilty of that too.
The bodies are weird. From what I hear now I'm just listening I listen to both your stories and from what I heard that there in both cases there was some sort of self-headspace issue with this that you know with with Mel it was kind of forced and she was getting maybe a little frustrated that the oral wasn't getting her out of whatever the slump or frustration and then with yours it was a similar kind of situation where there was something that you didn't feel your brain was cooperating with you. Yeah it was like a crossing of the brain waves going yes I want this but not this way you're not doing it the right way in my brain apparently. Okay well that makes absolute sense and I have heard those things from lovers where after sex or some type of activity there's maybe some frustration because it just didn't go you know how you would hope that a sexual encounter would go.
So what would you say would be something that you could do differently to approach that next time? Well for me I think it would just be trying to focus on redirecting that headspace. I do that anyway when I start to feel like I'm not you know in the right place I try to redirect but you know I guess sometimes it just kind of can't be avoided and maybe slowing down and you know trying to move towards letting go and being okay with the experience and just experiencing the pleasure I guess and not focusing on the end result. I think that's fantastic advice also I would add on the possibility of informing your partner that you were in your because I've had my partners do that a lot I always try to create that environment as best I can.
It doesn't always work but a lot of times you know especially you can be like hey I'm not in the right headspace right now or bunny is done it before as well too and so just being able to tell that to your partners even sometimes just taking a little pause and knowing that everyone's on the same page and it's okay we throw the expectations out sometimes you can have a different result that's more positive. I agree and I know that us being a fairly new dynamic we still have you know even though we're a long-term relationship we still have you know those those hang-ups about you know I shouldn't say something or maybe I should just muscle through it kind of thing or you know just conveying both my part anyway just conveying what I want is hard I don't know it's something I struggle with and it's something I'm trying to do on which I guess we all should. I think that's a fantastic thing that you're working on it and I think it's a fantastic thing that you have a long-term partner that you've had since I school and now you're discovering all these new things and improving the that is that is weird to me. Another lesson that I want to talk about that you had here on the list that actually Unger helped teach somebody because you know when Unger has to school someone that it's going to be creative almost always when Unger has a lesson it's going to be in some weird fucked-up way and I think this is no different so the scenario you painted for me was being flexible with your expectations so it was a situation where someone came in and I'm not going to say you described them as shooting their mouth off.
So we're shooting their mouth off. Why don't you go ahead and finish that story. We let people come over to our place especially when we know that they live alone and they need some kind of company so we let them come and we're very open in regards to like hey whatever you think of anything everything it's a safe place. Well we seem to attract brats and this particular person decided to open their mouth and go oh I've tried that before I'm okay with everything to which me and Unger just look at each other and go oh really what have you tried they're like oh waterboarding is okay and like okay so we're do waterboarding like yeah that sounds great with fish sauce the look in their eyes the the saucers that came from them like what like next time we'll do it with fish sauce you said you've done it before and it's okay and we sat them down we talked because this is how under an IR we tend to go with what we like to call gene logic and gene is one of the nice people who granted wishes they granted your wish but it usually came in a consequence and it's for them hey be flexible you may have done this with other people or you may have never done it before but be flexible with your expectations don't think that you've done this six million days with just one person it's going to be the same with the other it can vary from time to time though I now need to get a bunch of fish sauce because I want to do this I am totally in on that because at first I sounded like just a fish sauce waterboarding and right now I'm looking at it written down fish sauce wait a minute you're talking about drowning somebody with fish sauce that's amazing and fucked up we'll keep noodles underneath and then we'll have like Thai noodles after or something all right good good I definitely liked them the Thai noodles on top of it but it is so true because and here's the thing and we've talked about this on the show plenty of time surely in the past maybe not recently but I try to hold back when somebody usually new shoots off their mouth and tells you that they've experienced what they've experienced but they don't know what else is out there they don't know how deep the rabbit hole goes so they kind of flip off and they oh I have no limits or whatever and I try to avoid that desire to be a dick and say something like oh well so I can cut off your arm dummy you know I try to avoid that because I understand the ignorance when people come in but it is true you have to sit down with people and let them know just because this is your limit and this is the limit of what you see as a possibility that there is always something more weird more fucked up more heinous and more edgy than you've probably even conceived and even me I did in the lifestyle 12 years I still hear shit that I'm like wow that that is a that is a new thing that I did not know humans were into so I think throwing the fish sauce waterboarding was a really good middle ground and do you think it had the effect you wanted I think so and then it also came down to like they've done rope with hunger which is a whole different animal from doing the all-new exact same Thai with me right and it also helped relate that it really does vary from person to person and probably just let it out the both of us are contrast so wait a minute so are you saying that you're the good cop and ungers the bad cop no everyone thinks I am and they hide behind me like I'm gonna protect them from hunger what I'm the one they should be scared of excuse me you just you just step to the right and you're like there you go ogre I want to watch you get the bear trap or he just turns around looks at me and they look at my face and it's like the Cheshire cat they're like how why do I come to this house mess with you that is wonderful okay last thing I wanted to ask about before we move on with our silly little lives and the super happy-davy fluffy time this looks funny is this a situation that actually happened where all the interaction that we do on the internet now because of super happy-davy fluffy time the neighbors hearing you in your internet play we've heard a lot about people talking where oh the neighbors heard me fucking my partner blah blah blah police called great fun ensues but now are people getting caught zooming yes so can we talk about that this particular member they have a long distance relationship even before super happy but um but apparently they were doing something quite loudly to themselves and the neighbors were very concerned and it's fantastic and I just I'm when we just had to go down the rabbit hole of what if they if the cops came in broke down your door because you were just your headphones were on and they were so loud and they just think you bent over like spanking yourself that would be amazing and I'm sure it's happened I'm absolutely sure it had out of the millions of people that now it's true because a lot of people are doing self-play we're talking about doing it with some of our listeners intent intent intent and of course if I'm like go in the kitchen and grab a spatula and we're gonna get shit out of you with that would be amazingly loud yes and some of our walls are not as thick as we think they are oh that is so true sorry neighbors have you guys ever been caught by neighbors or had neighbors knock on the next the door the next day I have well my neighbors are in their their long-dead corpses I live next to a graveyard so don't really have to hold them oh can you please do something to wake the dead you have to like that is amazing that is amazing you live next to a cemetery yeah all you want maybe I should take a picture out there for the uh instagram I think that's anigma would love that I'm sure I've been to a little booby little booby flash next to a great time now that might be a ranch yet it's good to know that in this first time that we've all gotten together for the discord segment that you guys are in fact corrupt vile perverts of course I think this is gonna be okay I think we did pretty good you guys did a great job for the first segment and we're gonna get back to the show and let you guys get back to the discord once again aki if people want to get on the discord where do they go all they need to do is go to pervertedpodcast.com or find the sticky on our fedlife page sounds fantastic we'll see you guys in the discord and on to show two seven seven we only knew you for a short time at this fun while it lasted please visit us on patreon.com forward slash pervertedpodcast and consider donating five bucks if you give a fuck it is always right to me and boogie at pervertedpodcast at gmail.com is that it that's it man that's it that's it well I would surely like to thank uh aki and garbage can mail for doing a great job being nervous and pulling stuff together for the discord I think we're gonna continue to have a lot of fun very excited any questions comments obviously pervertedpodcast.com and go to pervertedpodcast.com and see all the new amazing stuff that we have on this well okay maybe not amazing but there's some new shit you know on this side and and don't forget to go to the perverted podcast group on fedlife because I believe boogie has started another erotica challenge well after you got so many fan emails one no two you got 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