279: Aesop's Fables

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What is one of our favorite Go-To's is absolutely examples. Now we have talked about a stop before I did it was like an intro to children's literature there was a live episode here at here at the part of their party conference. So I think that was probably two years ago at this point at least. So we talked a little bit about a stop tables.

You know that we got to a point there of like, are these actually children's stories and maybe we'll come around in that same maybe we'll come up today as well. We'll talk a little bit about a stop. We don't know. Oh, Graham is paying very close attention to his posture because I'm sorry, I'll try to do that.

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Thank you. So that's just being yourself. Speaking of self, what do we know about a stop? Is it Greek?

He's one with animals. You made that right? I think so. That's a problem.

Yeah. Is that a problem? Is that a problem? It's a problem.

What do we go? What do we go? I think it's a problem. They're not going to do that.

What do we go? Yeah. I'm following the trailer. I did not.

Of course. Okay. So yeah. No.

Well, the way they've been used ever since they've existed is not for children. Yeah. Let's get a little bit on a stop and then we'll get to how the stories have been used. So yeah.

So we've covered him in a book too, which is we don't have a set on. I think we only made it 3% because history is very long. So I'll just read this short little section about Herodotus. Yeah.

Yeah. So we get this is chapter 134 of Herodotus. There's a story about King who lives pyramid. It's much smaller than others.

But that there's a person, the oddman. And the oddman is the owner of a stop. So he's a slave to the person IAD, MOM, and the oddman. It also records that a stop went to Delphi.

And then the Delphi is available issue many procomations on anyone who wanted to accept compensation for the killing of a stop. And basically, all we get about him in Herodotus. He described as someone who tells stories. He is described as dying at the end of Delphi, Delphi ends and about all the way to the forehand.

This is a great question. So Herodotus is not really going to it. I'm sure it's the same as that. Yeah.

So it mostly because of the reference to the guy who tells stories. So he was a fellow, except described as a slave and a story writer. So that is what gets him connected to. The guy who's basically said, I'll pay anyone to kill you.

Yeah. Because let me get the story to explain to the horrible head. He's horrible. So I'm having a lot of sassons.

Actually, I'll read the longer. It's a blue dark. This is on the delay of the divine justice. So I'm just going to read the whole of these two paragraphs.

Certainly, if those were done wrong or themselves punished, there's no justice and chastising those who have done no wrong. Ford is not right to punish even the evil doers in their own person twice for the same offense. And if the gods and their remissness failing upon the guilty afterward inflict penalties on the innocent, they do not fittingly make amends for their slow doing by unrighteous, by unrighteous doing. Take the case of Asa.

Instead that he can hit her with money for my creases. So Rich McRae says, gives my days up, intending to offer a magnificent sacrifice to the God of the temple and distribute among the citizens of Delphi for me in this peace. Because money out of people Delphi. And as it reported, having become disaffected toward the people here on account of some of the front or quarrel, he made a sacrifice indeed.

But since the rest of the money back to Sardis, it's the back to the back home, not thinking the men of Delphi worthy of the gift. They then raised against him at the charge of sacrilege and put him to death by throwing him from your undercliff. From that time to set that they was angry with him and made their soil and fruitful and sent them on all kinds of strange diseases so that they were round among the public. And some of these other ingredients that they were claiming were the earnest, intrigued that whoever would demand to justice of them and be able to do a simple satisfaction.

So we're kind of teasing things together. Her audit doesn't really go into details. So much later account from Plutarch is that ASAP is supposed to give money to the people in Delphi. He doesn't do it.

He doesn't do it. He doesn't do it. He doesn't do it. He doesn't do it.

He doesn't do it. He doesn't do it. He doesn't do it. He doesn't do it.

So they throw him off the cliff. Throw him off the cliff. Throw him off the cliff. Yeah.

So they're like, Mr. Rogers, a really nice guy, press a period. And I guess the thing that is commented on for ASAP is apparently not all we do. And I guess I have to say it.

So there's this other account of ASAP. It's called the ASAP romance, which is not in the affectionate sense in the like, if it's in the sense. So it covers his life. His family is serving under this guy's santas, his travels.

He needs with the seven sages, he goes to Delphi. Then he gets killed. So that's all we're counted in the ASAP romance. But there are also a number of references to he not so pretty.

So he wants to go see his face for podcasting. So positive podcasting. Sorry. Sorry.

His appearance was such that no one to live on without laughing. He was flat, nose, contract, stick, lip, with a long belly ahead and norms in the shade and short bandy legs. He was a grotesque figure. He was a monster of a man with the lip, the popular, and the complexion, and he didn't look so good.

So he's at a real point. At least he had stories going for him. So your question was, are these children's stories? There are a few ways to answer that.

One, actually comes from Aristotle. So it comes from the rhetoric, from his book on rhetoric. Do you all remember a reference to a stop from? Don't man.

I don't think so, because I don't read much rhetoric. We do politics and ethics. You'll need a very correct reading rhetoric more speech by not reading the question. So there's a story where counted in there as a book to chapter 20.

They're talking about the trials of the fables. So there are many examples of fables. And he says, there are two varieties. The illustrative is going from, is it just the rhetoric?

It's an on-grid called just rhetoric as a name of the book. So other later, so other fables. Again, there are two varieties. The illustrative parallel and the fable.

And then he says, you do the fables out of a stop, or there's a liberal. So ASAP gets reference here. It's just a rhetorical tool to a fable. Then Aristotle will reference a stop using one of his fables.

So let me, again, is this something he's using? Which all right, no, this is how he's using one of his stories. So ASAP, when defending at St. Louis, and Imago, who is being tried for his life, related to the following anecdote.

A fox walking across the river was driven into a ravine, being unable to get out. She was for a long time in sword stress. And a number of dog police on her again. A hedgehog wandering about soccer and moved with a passion asked her if he should remove the fleas.

The fox refused. And when the hedgehog asked for the reason, she answered, they're already full of me and draw the blood. But if you take them away, others will come. They're hungry.

And will drain or remain to me. You, that's the end of the story. You, and like man, are a semi-and will suffer. No more harm from this man for you is wealthy.

But if you put him to death, others will come who are poor. Who will seal and squander your public funds. Aristotle continues, fables are suitable for public speaking. And they have this advantage.

That, while it's difficult to find similar things that have really happened in the past, it is easier to invent fables. But they must be invented, like comparisons. If a man is capable of seizing the analogy, and this is easier to find philosophy, that's while the lessons conveyed by fables and the point is that fables, you can create them. They're all made up.

It's very easy to come up with a fable that makes the point you want to make. Now, whether it's good or not, I guess it's a question. But fables are a tool of rhetoric. And this is one that's being used to say someone's life.

So very much an adult contact, right? Yeah. I feel like fleas don't work that way though. I think it's full on blood.

But they're just like, not legs. Not legs, but not legs. I feel like they're going to. I feel like there's always room for more fleas.

You have to be literally covered in tech before they're looking at me like, no. I think that's a, I mean, Aristotle gets criticized for his scientific understanding, right? I know it's one of those things where it's, he's clearly, he's making probably what is a good point. That like, really like, you know, the grass is always green or the question is probably, the damage he can do is it is a known evil.

And if you get rid of him, you are probably opening yourself to an unknown, we're evil. Yeah, that's a good argument. I don't know if the tech table gets us there. But is there some, because in your example, you could have just led with that conclusion.

Right? You could have said, you know, better than you know, then the one you don't know, the grass is always green or something. I think that's right. What did you get something for having the story behind us?

I think you get the indirect. So the thing is, if you have closed ears and you just don't want to hear it, your heart is set on trying this guy's guilty. The story, because you don't know where it's going, is basically like this indirect assault on you. So that when you are listening and just listening to the story and you get the conclusion and you kind of agree with it.

And then you're like, oh, this applies to this. It is a bit of a like, you let your guard down and let your defenses down, you let your bias down. So if they were able to do that kind of thing. And those sorts of like analogy.

So the famous one being like Nathan going to King David and telling him the story about the guy who the king took his sheep and gave us like a pretty drum. And then things like you are that man. So that's like that kind of thing. So you can use the story to bypass the prejudice of listener.

Yeah. And you can hear it as a member. Well, Alex, I want to be more likely to remember the whole story with the fleas and the work and they are to remember the lose of us. You got the fleas though.

No, the work I was like, I can please off. I was like, I was like, people touch. That work fucked with the guy. I was like, no, I was like, no, I was like, I was like, no, no, no, no, no.

That's the most more sensitive to my head. Well, now my point is done. Because I can't remember the important part of the fleas. But it's more memorable.

That's like the longer. Well, that's not how we think it's for kids. I think so. So what I stopped to share there is the story piece of it.

When we read the fables, they will have a moral at the end of them. And I don't know if that weakens it. And that's what goes through a couple of these. And the morals, it's not.

So yeah. It's not an answer to like, like, Wacky 17th century. And it's like, you're stuff. Right.

And I should say I've given you an introduction to that. But did a stop actually write and work collect all of these stories? Probably not. Yes, how would you, Homer, like Homer was a real person, but the work is more than just him, right?

Well, now we see, I mean, it's coming up in the air. For a long time, the poem was a real guy. like a bunch of stories from a different bunch of poets. Now they think Homer was real, but he was working with inherited wealth of oral tradition.

So he kept us off the work. He was like improvising traveling bar. So he would remember it's not for previous sellers and parts of the work and just parts of the work. And I think it would be the same here is that you end up with a bunch of stories that are repeated over and over and eventually collected together, you know, that obviously publishing comes much later than these stories, right?

Where he's 17th century BC, right? So these are very old stories born in the 20, nine, five, six, four. So these exist as oral tradition, oral stories much, much earlier than they are written down. And there are, you know, you get different collections of them.

You're talking somewhere in the like 500 stories. So like, it seems much more likely that these are collected into a grouping that gets associated with a sample that probably wasn't a sample. Yeah. The stories in the room, they just ran out of the got.

Which they get stolen. So, what? Oh, no, no, no. So let's, we've got a little bit of background there.

There's this new, these are described. These stories are used. They both are used in the, I was like a reference thing, you can actually teach us or use it, but the burden is not like, they both are a part of the speech that are prepared, right? Is that that is actually like an old training in rhetoric?

Yeah. And as I understand it, that was that training also was not for children necessarily So that was supposed to correspond with as you grew. So you started something like a fable and then you worked your way up to a defense of some sort of law. But it's like, yeah, yeah.

But that was supposed to be somewhere in your own thesis time. So what do they, what would that be? Well, I think I think it's probably between like 13 and 18 and you guys should be defending the law. So there you go.

Like the one that they're talking about. No, I was going to say like, all of our 14 year olds defending laws. Yeah. Most of practice.

And it was supposed to be very rare, but it's supposed to start with a fable because that's kind of what you are dealing with as a child. Anyway, they are legally minded when they're arguing about the informology. Oh yeah. Well, let's read a couple of these fables.

So I went and asked my kids for their favorite. My youngest one year old in the Netherlands, because you know, I was talking. So I have one from my three year old child, my five year old child, and I asked my wife what her favorite is. So I have those three.

Before we can ask if this is actually an ASL fable or not, is the frog in the scorpion a real ASL fable? Probably on the scorpion. Or is that just like an internet joke? Yeah.

Is it really an ASL fable? It's working in the frog. It's an ASL fable. Yeah.

Sometimes a tribute to ASL people that don't appear in any collection of ASL fables, probably for the 20th century. So no, the answer is not. So it's not an ASL fable. Is it not?

No, it's just an ASL fable of like that maybe I should probably start here. There are many famous ASL fables that people will know. The court is in the hair is probably the most famous of them. And so I was wondering this for your example before, you can teach people this slow and steady one's the race.

You can give them that quote. I think you get something for having the full story of these two characters. And the hair has this advantage, and then lose that advantage through their laziness. If you were a bit nine times out of 10, there were only nine times out of 100 maybe who were you betting on that?

The hair is on the hair. Twenty saw. What are the Delphies from off the bridge? I wonder if what you think of some of the morals interesting.

What are the famous ones? The boy who cried wolf, right? I was not believing when they tell the truth, right? The mouse and the fox and the blind spot with the horns?

Yep, they go for the blind spot. The mouse is there. Is there like a cow that like no fraud that pops off so big he pops? Almost pops.

It's the ox and the fraud. There's a fox walking around. No fraud. I can't talk.

The one I'm thinking is that the ox is walking around, it's set on a fraud. And this is one of the mothers kids. And so Frog has to go to mother, hey, your son just got set on. And the mother goes, oh, was he this big?

And the baby frog goes, no, he was even bigger than that. And the mother pops herself up again. You're going to explode again. And the moral is something about self-concede.

Self-concede is self-destruction. And isn't there one about like a fox and cat and fox is like, I got 1000 ways to hide. And the cats like, oh, I can do a climate tree. And then they hear hunting part here.

They hear someone coming out of the fox. I have to figure out what to do. And the cat is up the tree and the fox is getting something. That's the other one.

Fox and the cats. No. Yes, including collections. They go.

That's working. Also, the grasshopper is going to let you say about whether you are in those homies. It's one of the things that you want to say about. I'd say about some money.

It is 50 to prepare today for the ones of tomorrow. So there are many famous stories included there. But here are a few of the ones that my family liked. And I'll want to hear what you'll think the morals to each of these are.

I'm going to ask you what the moral of that story is. And I guess this is a quick show because there are three of them. So let me go and see if you're looking in this one. So first one, this is my three-year-old favorite story.

This is my atom, which is this one. A wild boar, which sharpening his tusk, is busily against the stomach of the tree. And a fox happened by. Now, the fox is always looking for a chance to make fun of his neighbors.

So he made a great show, looking anxiously about as if in fear, first of some pin in me, with a boar, to work at right on with his work dropping tusk. Why are you doing that? That's the fox, at least. That's the fox.

At last with a grin. There isn't any danger that I can see. True enough, we'll apply the boar. But when danger does come, there will not be time for some to work as this.

My weapon will have you ready for use then or I shall suffer for it. That's your three-year-old favorite. You're going to be starting when you're my six-year-old. What is the moral of this story?

It was a great project. What is that? The moral is like, yeah, like, like, yeah, like, like, like, like, like, like, because they're only time to prepare tomorrow or use the day to prepare on them. People get mocked, even by zombies.

They're not even going to make fun of something even though even lies things. Yeah. The difference between, okay, maybe you think it's one preparedness for war is that that's guaranteed peace. Feel like I left your one round of those rational moves, right?

Feel like the grand point of view. Maybe. Yeah, that's a good idea. I know.

We're prepared. We're prepared. Yeah, we're prepared. Let's go and do that.

Yeah, because they do something like fun. Yeah, yeah. There's nothing about that. I think Grammy talked about before.

We do get recurring characters through these stories as well, right? Well, this is what Justin talks about in intro is like the personification of the animals is like the fox is a certain kind of creature. The bear, the lion is a certain kind of creature. It's not just a human character.

It's just a human character. It's a true thing. And also, Justin's intro to the Ace of Sails talks about the truthness of how true these are. They are observational truths about the nature of the world.

And anybody can read these things and be like, yes, I get it. Even if like, even if you took that to a place on earth that didn't have foxes or bear or boars and you just sort of described it, like there would be, they would sort of understand the trueness of the fable. Like that. This is a question I have relates to something.

It was our first example we were picking apart because there's a fox that's hedgehog, please, please, please, but maybe the story isn't correct, right? But I think that's a good thing about the fable is that the moral is the moral is the moral is the moral is forcing the story. The moral is what Aristotle says. We can make up any story to reach the conclusion.

The genius of I think it's a good fable is that the moral on the story sort of like really do correspond to reality. Whereas that one of the fleas is a little bit more of a stretch because someone just says, I'm just going to say, I'm not pleased to work that way. But no one gets to happen to say that pigs stupid, right? Even someone says, oh pigs don't sharpen their tusks that way.

That doesn't matter because the point is, but I don't know. I think that what makes a good fable is the moral and reality correspond closely. I guess that's, you know, I'm not going to sit here and read it for 700, but you would think that the reason something is passed on in still part of the video is that we can email us out which would read and review all 700. I would love that.

Let's do 700 parts of your reason. I can be like a special patron only subscriber. You pay for it. You all are going to go off travel.

You know, you all sell 700 things off. That's great. You can have one in 100. Oh, that's really, that's really awesome.

That's your favorite. That was Maggie's essay or Fables. But the last one during code and I recorded it in the book, it's a record and I recorded it in the book. It's a record and I recorded it in the book.

It's a record and I recorded it in the book. It's a record and I recorded it in the book. It was great. So for the last couple of minutes, I was trying to look up a table.

I wrote for our project and it was not practical. I remember the table. I just felt that I was kind of distracted by all of the other shots. And I misspoke earlier.

That was actually my five year old story. That was my five year old story. My three year old story, this is the tortoise in the evil tortoise, lazily basking in the sun, complained to the seabirds for her heart fate that no one would teach her to fly. An eagle hovering near heard her lamentation and demanded what reward she would give him if he would take her off and float her in the air.

and she would have to go to the other bitches of the red sea. The eagle was on. I will teach you a fly then to the eagle. Taking her up in his talents, he carried her almost to the clouds and suddenly he'd let her go.

She fell on a lofty mountain in the version we have. I want to open the door. In this version, the tortoise claimed the moment I have to serve my present fate for what I had to do with wings and clouds who can with difficulty move about on the earth. The evil kind of like, that's the story.

And then there is the moral is the same as the one in the desert. That's slightly different. It's taken up and then dropped in the night's version to the sea. It's on the right.

What is the moral of the story? Staying your lane. Stay in your lane. What are you thinking?

You're thinking content. Yeah, I mean, it was just trying to like back to staying your lane. I'll say, I'll say, Charles Jean-Slais. Thirdly, you're going to the point.

Here's the moral. If men had all they wished, they would be often ruined. How is that? That's not a problem.

I think that's not right. I think we got everything we wanted. Hell is getting what you want. Hell is getting what you want.

The man had all the way to the way to the room. Is that metal? That's a metal. That's a metal.

That's a metal. That's a metal. My wife likes this one. This one's well.

This is a town now. So the country now is stacked. No, this one, I guess this is a light frame. That town now wants this a little bit longer so.

There we go. Now, you must know. That a town now is once upon a time, when he lost his cousin in the country. He was rough and ready.

But he loved his town friend and made him heartily. Beans and bacon, cheese, and bread were all he had to offer. But the town now has rather turned up his long nose at this country fair and said, I cannot understand him cousin how you can put up a several food. But of course you can't expect anything better in the country.

Come you with me. And I will show you how to live. You have been in town for a week. You will wonder how you could ever have stood a country life.

No sooner said than done. The two mice set off for the town and arrived at the town of Mountes residence late at night. You will want some refreshment after our long journey to the Blake townhouse and took its friend into the grand dining room. There they found the remains of a fine feast.

And soon the two mice were eating up jellies and cakes and all that was nice. Suddenly they were growling and barking. What is that? So the country mouse?

It is only the dogs of the house. And to the other, only set the country mouse. I do not like that music at my dinner. Just at that moment, the door flew open.

In came two huge mess-ifs. And the two mice had to scamper town and run off. Goodbye cousin to the country mouse. What?

Going so soon to the other, yes, he replied. What is the moral of that story? Flight of the suburbs. That was just a thing.

It's like countries like that. This is more you than the flight. More you than me. Better simple fare in a peaceful house than a dangerous house for kings.

The loves of one man, don't necessarily translate down a man like that. Grandma almost had it word for word. Touching it. I read these.

I read these. I read these over the flight. I've been pointed at that. Here's how this one has it.

Better beans and bacon and cakes and dale and fear. You have to almost eat the first one on the word. So better the simple things and pieces and the next thing here. Beans and bacon.

It's not awesome. Beans and bacon and cheese and bread. It's not great. I mean, it's a great.

You don't have so much. It's not so much. That's a good idea. I don't think it can be or together.

Too much. How do they talk about this? How many more people? They're the overlords.

All right. Thank you. Thank you. I forgot for some, I wanted that some baddies on staples.

The one's that. There's definitely somewhere like the moral does not really correspond to the story in a way that intuitively makes sense. Yeah, this one is not as much the left-hand moral. It's one that I see people saying is like it's a bad moral.

But this is like good things make good neighbors. I don't know if you know what that means. Yeah. Let's let me take this one.

This is one where they're like, well, let me just read the story. This is the wolf in the lamb. Australia lambs to drinking early morning on the bank. The wolf is in stream.

The very same morning. A hungry wolf came by farther up the stream hunting for something to eat. He soon dies on the lamb. As a rule, Mr.

Wolf snapped up such delicious morsels without making any bones about it. But this lamb looks so very helpless and innocent. But the wolf felt he ought to have some kind of excuse for taking the life. How dare you paddle around in my stream and stir up all the mud.

He shot it fiercely. You deserve to be punchy severely for your rations. But you're highness. Right.

The trembling lamb do not be angry. You're a dreamer. Remember, you are upstream and I'm downstream. You do not yet reported the wolf sedally.

And besides, I have heard that you told lies about me last year. How can I have done so, please do the lamb. I wasn't born until this year. If it wasn't you, it was your brother.

I have no brothers. Well, then, it's not the wolf. It was someone in your family anyway. But no matter who it was, I do not intend to be talked out of my breakfast.

And without more words, the wolf sees the poor lamb and carry her off to the forest. What is the moral of this lesson? Oh, I'll let you go first because I got you first. I got you first.

I got you first. There's no defense against the term of evil. Okay. Yeah.

Like the guilty heart will make excuses for its own guilt. I think that's going to be grand. Let me read that. Both of your answers are very good.

The tyrant can always find an excuse for his tyranny. The unjust will not listen to the reasoning of the innocent. I think that's actually a good data. The tyrant can always find an excuse for his tyranny.

The unjust will not listen to the reasoning of the innocent. I think that's one of the... That's a good thing. It's not a nice lesson.

That's probably what gets you into the... Are these children's stories? That's a pretty harsh thing to learn. But I think they'll learn.

I think they'll be aware of. All right. Any others that you all have in mind that you're like, this is my favorite story or Jamie said you read them recently. Is there any that you that suck out to you?

I think so. There's usually ones where like... I was at a subfables where someone's making fun of something that their animal has that's like perfectly natural and incredibly useful to them. I guess they say they have a table to Fox and the hedgehog where the Fox has like a thousand ways to do something that hedgehog just has one.

You'll know that. Let me know what's about the cat. Let me see. It's a scrap based up.

Let me get you out of version of that one. The porcupine. The porcupine is like one way to fend itself in the Fox as a thousand ways to fend itself. A fox swimming across a river was...

I don't think that's the same point you're making. I'm not going to suppose to be about knowing one thing or lots of things. The one that is Fox and the hedgehog I see is a fox swimming across a river was barely able to reach the bank where he lay brews and it's also from struggle with this. With this whipped current soon as the swarm of blood supply settled on him.

Oh, it's actually the same story from a four. Oh, that was a fox and the hedgehog wasn't it? That's the one that I'm popping up as the one that he told to say that guy's life. Yeah, I don't think it's any different.

I like them because the mind that it takes to craft a fable is like... Someone who has observed human nature and the truism. So they're almost like proverbs. How I guess the question I have is like, how is a fable different than a parable?

Because they're both being analogies. They're both sort of talking about trying to draw conclusions about something. Is there like an easy difference to do any of it? Like is Jesus speaking fables?

These parables. The parables are often with human characters, often with a larger religious context. That's a great answer for that. Fables are short, often fictional story, typically females, or animals, objects, as characters, and conveys a more or less and explicitly say at the end.

A parable on the other hand is a brief story that illustrates a more or less than often with human characters. Maybe like, parables are less about like a pity little saying at the end. I'm more about like talking about a greater reality that like, it's almost defies a pity saying. I wonder if that's the reason for fables to be more associated for children.

Because they're kind of easier. They're more straightforward, kind of one lesson to it. You're not going to sit around and like really think about the meaning of this. Because it's kind of interpreted for years.

You're just going to talk a lot about talking about the monster seed and faces much of C and all that stuff. So why don't I fable? I can never find my fable. I can never go.

I can never find my fable. They're too same. Chris and Daniel. They had friends since we're.

Now that they were adolescent fish just coming up on the reproductive years. They came back to the Greek reading around the report. They both entered the stream and swam relatively briefly for first little bit. And they're coming up against the first waterfall.

But Daniel and Chris, I've been able to do names. That's right. Okay. The industry is fish.

Swam is hard. He's going to jump out the waterfall. And he's like, Chris, come on up. And Chris is like, that seems like a lot of work.

I think I'll stay here for a while. And he's like, Chris, if you don't come right away, like all the breed will be done. And you will be lost and you'll have no family. And he'll be alone forever.

And he says, I'll be alone in a minute. So Daniel went on his way. And Chris came eventually. Chris got close enough in the waterfall.

And he was like, hey, I was going down there. And Chris is like, all right, just take me some time. And he's like, tell me, you're not going to make it. You're going to keep on trying.

But all the breed will be done. Well, twill away. There you are. Y'all morsel.

Everyone dies. I wrote that when we were doing a project that was my practice with my students. And that's why I find it somewhere. And I find it's like, that's why I said it's age-centric.

Because my kids weren't really interested in it anymore. Like it needed to be something that developed as they did. And it just was not hitting. So I'll get.

Well, there you go. The next table is, you know, there's a bunch of old works there online. And again, not only for children, I think it's a really useful thing to bring on more lessons or, I don't know, if you're speaking or writing, just kind of easy references to point to make certain conclusions. So.

And they will try to write labels in the end of the week. You should know. We have a video episode where we have a month of MAs where we have other backlogs of episodes that never miss seen the live day. So.

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Yes. Everyone says X in the college. I can make the same joke. No, I will.

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