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EPISODE · Jun 29, 2026 · 2H 32M

280 - David Albert & Jacob Barandes: Debating the Foundation of Quantum Mechanics

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David Albert is the Frederick E. Woodbridge Professor of Philosophy at Columbia University, director of the Philosophical Foundations of Physics program at Columbia, and a faculty member of the John Bell Institute for the Foundations of Physics. Jacob Barandes is Senior Preceptor in Physics at Harvard University, where he works widely across the philosophy of physics, with focuses on the foundations of quantum mechanics, the philosophy of spacetime, and the metaphysics of laws. In this episode, Robinson, Jacob, and David discuss Jacob’s novel Indivisibility Approach to quantum mechanics. After beginning with an introduction from David, the conversation touches on the measurement problem, completeness, scientific realism, the purpose of physics, and more. If you’re interested in the foundations of physics, then please check out the JBI, which is devoted to providing a home for research and education in this important area. Any donations are immensely helpful at this early stage in the institute’s life.Jacob’s Website: https://www.jacobbarandes.comA Guess at the Riddle: https://a.co/d/6qcsidlThe John Bell Institute: https://www.johnbellinstitute.orgOUTLINE00:00 The Problem with the Wave Function05:30 The Indivisibility Approach17:28 What Is Indivisibility?25:13 The Measurement Problem32:18 The Incompleteness of Jacob’s Theory42:20 Completing the Theory47:12 Realism in Quantum Mechanics01:03:13 The Fundamental Task of Physics01:10:57 The Structure of the Indivisibility Theory01;22:26 Summarizing and Calculating01:40:01 The Game of Fundamental Physics01:46:31 Can Bohmian Mechanics Work?01:56:26 A Version Including David’s Theory02:04:49 What Is the Wave Function?02:15:33 Where We’ve Ended UpRobinson Erhardt researches symbolic logic and the foundations of mathematics at Stanford University, where he is also a JD candidate in the Law School.

David Albert is the Frederick E. Woodbridge Professor of Philosophy at Columbia University, director of the Philosophical Foundations of Physics program at Columbia, and a faculty member of the John Bell Institute for the Foundations of Physics. Jacob Barandes is Senior Preceptor in Physics at Harvard University, where he works widely across the philosophy of physics, with focuses on the foundations of quantum mechanics, the philosophy of spacetime, and the metaphysics of laws. In this episode, Robinson, Jacob, and David discuss Jacob’s novel Indivisibility Approach to quantum mechanics. After beginning with an introduction from David, the conversation touches on the measurement problem, completeness, scientific realism, the purpose of physics, and more. If you’re interested in the foundations of physics, then please check out the JBI, which is devoted to providing a home for research and education in this important area. Any donations are immensely helpful at this early stage in the institute’s life.Jacob’s Website: https://www.jacobbarandes.comA Guess at the Riddle: https://a.co/d/6qcsidlThe John Bell Institute: https://www.johnbellinstitute.orgOUTLINE00:00 The Problem with the Wave Function05:30 The Indivisibility Approach17:28 What Is Indivisibility?25:13 The Measurement Problem32:18 The Incompleteness of Jacob’s Theory42:20 Completing the Theory47:12 Realism in Quantum Mechanics01:03:13 The Fundamental Task of Physics01:10:57 The Structure of the Indivisibility Theory01;22:26 Summarizing and Calculating01:40:01 The Game of Fundamental Physics01:46:31 Can Bohmian Mechanics Work?01:56:26 A Version Including David’s Theory02:04:49 What Is the Wave Function?02:15:33 Where We’ve Ended UpRobinson Erhardt researches symbolic logic and the foundations of mathematics at Stanford University, where he is also a JD candidate in the Law School.

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