Kathy pump it up. Kathy pump it up. Pump it up. Kathy pump it up.
Are you pumping with me, Kathy? Come on, come on. I'm pumping. Kathy pump it up.
Pump it up. Pump it up. Pump it up. My penis pump.
Yeah, yeah. Now I'm not pumping your penis. Come on. Tell me that's what it was about.
No. Well, well, Kathy, you joined in. So I figured you were down with squeezing on the little bulb thingy on my penis pump. I'm getting in shape, Kathy.
Anything near your penis. I'm getting in shape. Getting ready. Getting ready, Kathy.
Are you ready for this show? I'm ready for this show. Well, then, God damn it. I'm getting into this show.
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Recording live from Kathy's bedroom and Boogie's ravioli at Kathy. I am Count Boogie and it is a magical day. I am not in the ravioli. I am in the other car of doom, which doesn't have a name, but it'll probably not be a positive name.
But I am in my empire center parking lot. I feel like I own my surroundings. My setup is even better. Kathy, now I have scotch tape to hold my notes to the steering wheel.
Bigger notes. You splurged for scotch tape. Well, I had like 85 rolls as I'm cleaning out storage. You notice that you can't find.
Like I have 900,000 extension cords and 935,000 things of scotch tape. So I just grabbed one of those. But no, it's a great setup. Because I'm getting pumped, Kathy.
Literally getting pumped. I'm not talking about any penis pumps right now. No. Well, Kathy, I'm just saying that we're now in a countdown to my wiener, Penitrado, Muse vagina.
So it's a countdown to pussy? It's a countdown to something. It's definitely, you know, I'm hoping it all works out. But that's why I'm in training now.
Like I'm in storage and, you know, I'm doing stuff and working on the show and whatever. And I'm going through boxes and I'm like, okay, I'm using to be here from med school, you know, for the Thanksgiving vacation thing. And her mom's already agreed to let us have a day on the boat, which is going to be great. She gets to take a shower.
It's going to be great. You know, stir fry. She loves stir fry. I'm going to cook for chocolate milk and whatever.
And we talked about it and I'm like, look, I'm just pretty much obsessed with the whole fucking you doggy style, dragging my knife down your back thing. Is that still a thing between us that we can do? And she's like, did she have an orgasm on the spot there? She did.
Well, I mean, she has now two partners besides me. And so, you know, I'm like, you know, I just want to make sure I still, you know, I'm in a mix, you know, here in that it's okay for me to still do things. And you kind of have to do that when you start bringing in new partners and our dynamic has changed. So it's like, you got to still ask, are you still in this mode with me?
And the good news is she is. So it's over to the end. Yes. What does this have to do with getting into shape and doing stuff in your storage area?
Well, I'm going through storage and I'm, you know, I'm trying to get my mind out therapy because, you know, I don't want to lay on this day that we have any of my life pandemic, you know, miserable bullshit. Right. So I want to clear my mind and just be able to enjoy the time because it's not going to be a lot of time and just have myself in a space where we can really enjoy each other and I can cook for her and we can play and we can have cuddles and maybe watch a couple anime together because that was really our thing and we did a lot of that and just really enjoy the day. So I'm kind of just trying to get myself in that zone where I'm like, you know what?
All my bullshit life will be here the day she leaves. So I can, you know, just kind of put it off till then. So I'm getting, you know, my mind going, I'm going through storage and I pull out my penis pump. I'm like, Hey, I remember you.
And I'm like, well, I am trying to get in shape and I haven't used this thing in a while. Oh, so there I am. I'm in storage. You know, I'm standing there with the door closed.
Yes, Kathy with the door closed. I don't want that image in my head. And I'm standing there with my pants dropped down around my knees and I'm like, yeah, it feels tingling. You know, I'm feeling like I got to get some circulation in that thing.
Oh my God. You know, Dustin, the cobwebs off and I'm sitting there spoofing Pokemon go, you know, you have like this, the fiend to Rocky in the background. I swear to God, I was doing it. I was giving my, my penis little drinks of raw egg, you know, you know, thing, thing, thing, thing, thing, thing.
Come on, little guy, we got to get going. Oh my God. Okay. I'm, you're unreliable right now.
So you could only see me right now. I've got my, my forehead in my hands. I'm shaking my head going, I'm really talking about Boogie's penis. That's what we do on this show.
Well, I mean, I could talk about some of the other stuff like you and Enigma have now for the patrons started featured orgasm backup. I posted that for you guys this morning. That was so much fun. I had, I did not spoken to Enigma in so long and we had a good time recording that and thinking of the Patreon supporters.
Yeah, it was really fun. And so now it's backup. The deal is is that Enigma is going to edit all of these. So he doesn't, he doesn't care gender, guys, girls, trans, anyone, you know, that wants to give an orgasm and have it heard.
It's only going to be played for the patrons. So if you're a patron supporter, then you get to hear it and we upload it for our patrons. So it's, it's kind of cool. A cool little perk to be there, but we can't call it a perk.
Otherwise they're going to charge you to access. So we just say it's just, we're just happened to put the featured orgasm up there. And so, so yeah, I heard your segment up until the moment of love and is long. And once again, if you're going to submit an orgasm, like recorded into your cell phone, only one thing that has to be in everyone or we can't play it.
And it is somewhat for our ego and the fun, but it's also so we know that you've given us consent at the end of your orgasm, whether you're playing with your partner or whatever, you have to either say that was for perverted podcast or thank you perverted podcast. Poor perverted podcast is my life and I come for you perverted podcast is my daddy. Perverted podcast is my master. Kathy's feet from perverted podcast made me come whatever it just has to be something that lets us know you are consenting to us playing your orgasm on the show.
It's really off our ego book. I mean, it's why I think it's 100% for our ego. Well, I'm going to say 98% for our ego, but we do teach a lot about consent and it would be really shitty for somebody to secretly record their partner fucking. And then we play it on the show and then they're like, I didn't consent to that.
So I would actually call it. Yeah, I've actually called email people back and said, you didn't say the thing, go back and come again, which is such a hard thing for someone to do. How could you be so cruel? Yeah, they were terrorized.
They were completely terrorized by that. So, but that is definitely fun that we have that back in and it's open to everyone who wants to participate. And that's exciting. Can any dick any dick that you can remember because you didn't have like super heavy revelation conversations this week?
I'm still reeling from that. Okay. I'm not going to lie. It's still messing with my head, but I had quick dick is what I would call it.
What was that? What was that created? Created, created explorers already sitting like in that smoking jacket, you know, with a pipe. And he's like, that was lovely.
It was lovely. Did you just fuck me? That was at least seven minutes. Did you just fuck me?
I did. And now I'm waiting for an ice cream sandwich to melt. No, it's more like, who was that? Mass man.
Who was that? Mass man? And it's quick dick. It was quick dick.
I don't know. You know, sometimes that we can just get away from you and we had a day planned with friends on Saturday and Friday night. You know, I had a long week. So he lets me just talk and talk and talk.
So we got to dinner and I think I talked for like two hours straight and I get home. We get back to his place on exhausted Saturday. I I actually prepared tea for friends. But that's what I did.
It was nice and it was kinky and it was actually I don't know if we're allowed to say his name, but he's the one who puts together the what was the name of the nerd gasm number. OK, OK, nerd gasm party. So he and his girl came over and we had the loveliest tea and this Saturday, Saturday rolls around and by then I've got like I've got to do laundry. I've got to, you know, do all kinds of grooming stuff like put on a mask to my hair, shave, shower, blow dry, straighten, you know, make my lunches and breakfast for the whole week before you know it.
Like Saturday, Sunday is completely filled up and I guess just all of a sudden he decides, Oh shit, we haven't fucked yet and just come on. Let's go. Bam, bam, bam, bam. What?
That's the sound it just echoes off the bedroom walls. I'm a lot. That was fast. You know what?
As long as you get to punch that clock, you're still, you know, fast dick is better than no. I am not complete. OK, not always. Some people, some people would argue that fast dick from a partner that you like is better than no dick.
Bad dick and bad pussy from people that you're not into that give you bad sex. That's not cool. That's never good. But if you're into, if you're into your partner, any sex, any lab, you need to go with the lobby.
Yes, I was very happy for quick dick. Kathy, now that you have almost fully recovered from the heavy conversations that you had with creative explorer last week, why don't we just go ahead and jump into your new weird heavy subject? I don't want to just keep that rodeo going, Kathy. Let's just keep fucking with Kathy's head.
Why don't you? I mean, we should have done this segment three weeks ago when it would have been like, you know, tempered, you know, it would have been balanced out. So you would have had a week on a week off. But fuck it, Kathy.
The perverted podcast listeners need you. They need me to talk about all of my fucking bullshit so that they can feel better about their lives. Oh, no, that was highly cynical, wasn't it? Yeah, but probably.
All right. So we've talked in the past, you and I about dieting and both of our issues with our compulsion or addiction to eating and how difficult it is. And then I think a few, over a few shows we talked briefly about how great it would be if somehow with a power exchange or with our king partners that could help in some way. And I said that's, I don't think that's going to work because creative explorer and I don't really have that type of relationship.
He is a dominant, but he's not really the take control of your whole life kind of dominant or the mentoring type of dominant. And so despite that, he and I have discussed it as I always tell them what's going on on the show. And I mentioned that to him and he said, you know, if you're, if you need help, we could always try stuff, you know, just let me know what you want. And I kind of put it on the back burner because I was already dealing with other stuff, but I'll go.
I'm going to go into stuff that we've discussed before. So I apologize to anybody who's sick and tired of listening to Kathy and her eating issues. But here we go. Whenever I talk to someone, you know, about how hard it is for me to lose weight, I always use these words.
I always say it's like there's a monster that's breathing down my neck. Yes. And I don't know if anybody who hasn't gone through an addiction or doesn't have a strong compulsion can really understand what that means. When I say the word monster, I actually am saying that because that's what I call it, by the way, I don't know if I ever told you that, but I call it the monster.
It's very much like there's actually another presence in my life. It's not as if I'm just talking and saying, oh, it's like, there's a monster breathing down my neck. It's as if there's, it's not just me living in my body. And that monster is single minded.
It is unbelievably strong. Totally has the ability to just easily push me out of the way into it or the fuck it wants. And then when it leaves after it's had its fill, you know, everything inside, I'm left to pick up the pieces of shame and self hatred because once again, I wasn't strong enough, or I didn't have enough willpower to stop it. I mean, it's a horrible, horrible, vicious cycle.
You have described addiction. That is been to a lot of meetings. Whatever you call it, the monster, the other voice, that compulsion, that, that thing that just takes control and then the hate and is for not being able to, you have described basic physiological primal addiction. Yeah.
And I've been, I've basically been dieting my entire adult life. And obviously I have failed miserably at it. I can't remember a time that, you know, I didn't feel that compulsion to eat. So a few months ago, I decided really that I just, I'd had enough and that the way I'd been going about it was not working.
I'm not going to go into detail because, Oh my God, boogie, the detail of the different things that I have tried is just an endless list. Sure. But the first thing that I did was I just basically stopped lying to myself and I decided to be very real about the fact that I had failed. Sure.
And that I simply could not lose weight, not with the tools that I had, not with the lack of knowledge, certainly not with my lack of strength. So I decided instead to lower my expectations and try and said not to gain any more weight. Okay. And while I was doing that, I thought I'm going to seriously focus to try and begin to understand the monster because I thought I need to know my enemy and because trying to use sheer force of will against it was simply not doable.
So it's a lot of information. I've been, it's been, I've been having a lot of failures and a handful of successes. And that may not seem great, but for someone who, when it comes to losing weight, is used to one step forward and 50 steps back, believe me, that is fucking progress, baby. And I'm very happy about it.
So some days I feel greatly empowered to say no and others, you know, I'm ready to crumble at any moment. And those tough days are a fucking nightmare for me. The pressure to eat is so unreal that I don't get a moment's rest. And actually, you know what?
Let me rephrase that. The only rest I get is when I've given into it and I'm eating or for about two hours after I've eaten, that's the only let up I get on this fucking pressure. And so there are times that seriously challenged my result to stay on my diet. And a couple of weeks ago, I had a pretty bad one.
I was at work and I thought I can't, I can't sustain this any longer. I'm this close to just getting in my car, taking a break and going down to Starbucks and getting a Danish and a big old Mogulate. Right. I wanted to so badly and I would have been doing so well.
And by well, I don't mean that I had stayed on it 24 seven and I hadn't eaten anything bad. But I thought, all righty, I don't care that creative explorer and I have only barely scratched the surface on this. I don't care that we haven't really discussed it. I am very risk-averse.
But in this instant, I either text him and ask him for help or I am getting into my car and driving out right now. Right. So I texted him and I said, basically what I just told you, I know we haven't really discussed it, but I'm wondering if there's anything that that you can do to help me as my dominant in this within this power exchange. I'm going to tell you something, creative explorer.
And I have been talking about a lot of this because he's also trying to lose weight. And much to my utter rage and frustration, he is having enormous success. Well, I am taking minuscule baby steps and is driving me insane, man. God damn, non-addicts, fuck on my dad's with those.
I mean, he struggles like mad, but he seems to just have this desire in him that that overways the any compulsion to eat, the desire to win over it. So anyway, this is what you want to hear. I'm going to tell you what he texted back to me when I asked him. Yes.
He says, you're probably expecting me to be verbally harsh. But as your master, I'm going to do you one better. The next time you are here, I'm going to check if you gave into that impulse. Don't bother trying to lie.
I'll know. If you did, I am going to strip you, chain you, spread, eagle face down on the bed and gag you and you will get the paddle and I will be harsh about it. No mercy, no safe word. It is going to be more than one or two swaps and I'm going to leave you chained for quite a while periodically coming back to sneak up quietly and paddle you some more.
You know, I'll actually do it. You found out last time when you took off your collar. Now, if I can only describe what those words did to me. After the initial sploosh of a witness on the bottom of your chair, you mean that reaction?
Yes, after that, I'm glad you grasped the situation. Because I first, I'm like, oh, yes, please. I'm going to Starbucks motherfucker. After that, which was, I did obviously I'm in a power exchange relationship and words like that really just make me feel so amazing.
But right away is the battle with that monster. And I found that what happened was because I have a great deal of respect and admiration and trust for him. I would never lie to him. Right.
And the thought actually of going out and then having to tell him that I hadn't done it, that I'd given into that compulsion was really more than I could bear. So I didn't go. And I was, I'm sorry, I had you want to say something. I was going to say that's that's a win.
It is a win in that moment. I will take the win, but I am going to tell you that he and I are still talking about what happened because it was a moment in the win in the moment. It's a Kansas song backwards. Everyone's the only one I mean.
Yeah, we know. No, I'm very nervous talking about this. It's really hard for me to just guess this shit. So I'm a little blue.
I'm on my words. OK, OK. I went ahead and say there and the pressure built and kept building and kept building and didn't go away more than I've ever felt it in my entire life. So much so that I ended up going on a two day off my diet thing.
It wasn't a crazy binge. It was just no attention given to my diet at all. It was as if and I realized that what had happened is I had pretty much chained up the monster, locked him away and never actually dealt with it, never dealt with it. And so once the pressure once the that door had been open and it was the end of the day and that you know, the emergency had had come and gone.
I just went fucking crazy and I realized this. I don't think this is going to work, not like this. I need to give it more thought. I need to just guess it more.
But what it what it did do was make me realize how much I how much attention I need to give to why this thing is there, why it exists, why it has so much power. And I have been having some successes in that area and none of that would have happened if we hadn't tried what we had been discussing and what to be honest with you, I was very scared to do because I had never involved creative explorer in my life to that extent where I was giving him power to tell me what I couldn't eat, even if it was for a short time. That I thought there's there's always a possibility that it could go really bad. This is a very primal, vulnerable part of my life that I don't discuss with people or I do discuss with some people with very few people because it has a potential to really send me over the edge.
And so I was very nervous about doing this, but I'm very glad we did. I did find out something about myself. I haven't closed the door to it 100%. But it did open my eyes to the fact that I need to figure out why that monster is there.
And because creative explorers, just an unbelievably intelligent person and has a lot of experience with having to deal with parts of himself that he hates, he has been able to give me a tremendous amount of advice that has actually helped. So there's a star boogie. I am excited and I think that's the reaction that everyone expects me to have because I've had it for 286 other episodes when I hear things like this because these are all good discoveries. The whole bullshit that people say like, Oh, admitting it is half the battle.
We know that's bullshit. It ain't half the battle admitting it and identifying that monster only means that you now know if you want to win, there's going to be a battle. So, but that is an important step in any battle, whether whatever your compulsion is, whether you're an actual physiological addict, whether or not you're just struggling to overcome something in your life that you have to deal with the why is that monster there meeting a monster like you're talking about, getting to know your enemy, all of those things. Ultimately, you have to be able to acknowledge that part of yourself.
Now, then when you get into, which I've been privileged to, you know, going to a lot of drug diversion classes and talking to people who study this and, and, you know, there is a lot of information on the physiological aspects of addiction. And we'll say it's very vague and subjective personally, because like you said, creative explorer seems to be able to gain a few pounds and then will himself back into order. My dad is the same. I was adopted.
So I don't have his jeans, but my dad for years. Oh, well, you know, I guess I'm just going to cut that sandwich in half and eat the other half tomorrow for lunch. What? You, you motherfucker.
Go fuck yourself. You fucking abuse me as a kid. And now you're abusing me with your fucking dietary control. Go fuck yourself, old man.
I should have kicked his fucking ass. But that's how he, you know, so I can't, the first thing is, is there is a percentage of people that I'm assuming you and I are. I know I am that it's like a little dam in the head. There's a little part of your brain.
Most of our brains are absolutely amazing, but in people that have a genetic propensity towards addiction, it's like a little dam, like a little water dam. And in some people, it's much thicker. And in people with addiction issues, it's the little thinner. So it's like kind of like type two diabetes, like you have it until you break it.
And then once you break it, you can't unbreak it. Right. And that's addiction. That's the, that's the most, you know, cut down version I can give you.
Yeah. That there's a part of you. That monster is a part of your brain that they've identified as more of your lizard brain primal that has now said that your compulsive eating, your drugs, your gambling, your excessive shopping, your negative sexual behavior, whatever video games, fucking, you know, scratching your armpit, whatever your fucking obsession is, that your brain, that part of your brain, the monster has now decided that you have to have that to survive. And the logical side of your brain that is trying to tell you, no, you don't need that to survive is now the enemy.
So that monster sees your logical side of the brain as the enemy because that logical side of the brain is trying to kill you by not letting you compulsively overeat. And you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. That's, and part of my wanting to get creative explores help was to maybe use his strength to try and help me or give, you know, help me fight against the monster.
And to my shock, it didn't really work. Well, it worked in the moment. It worked in the moment, but it made things work worse five hours later and go. And so when he later on, when we were talking about it, he said, tell me about the monster and I said, well, he's, it's just this raving lunatic kind of, you know, cartoonish monster.
He's just always fucking there. And he said, have you ever tried dialoguing with it or conversing with it? And I just kind of looked at him and said, I don't think that ever fucking occurred to me. He's such a raving lunatic that why would I even?
And so I started turning my attention to it every once in a while. And it has gone from being a, you know, one of those crazy Tasmanian devil kind of things, just this presence who's always there in my head. But now it's just staring at me. It's just standing still and staring at me.
I'm all, huh, well, I wouldn't have expected that. And this is a journey. I'm still going. I don't know where I go from here.
He and I talk about it every week. I try and do my own shit. I'm very happy that in trying not to gain weight, I have actually put a tremendous amount of attention to appeasing the monster. That's what's kept me from losing a gaining weight is that how can I, I can't fight him right now.
I give up. I accept that I failed. How can I give him at least part of what he wants while still not gaining weight? And I, you know, found stuff that isn't as fattening and is feeling at the same time.
I know all along that this isn't the answer. But right now it's a answer and in trying not to gain weight, I've actually lost maybe half a pound a week, which is not great, but I wasn't even attempting to. And each, each like month, it's like a different thing. Each month I learned something new and keep going.
And, and we'll see. Maybe maybe the power exchange, that kind of power series we have can help in, in another area. You never know. Well, I have like literally, I've just been like hearing you talk and I'm like, don't, don't lose.
Flip your lid there, boogie. I'm not going to flip my lid. But the reality is so many of the things that you are saying are things that hundreds of thousands of people that have now at this point had long term recovery from the monster have all talked about. And it, it's about dealing with the insanity.
If you can make the monster not insane, it can be more controlled. Like you said, now it's at the point where it's like watching you going, what the fuck are you going to do now? And that's, yeah, you're right. That's exactly what it's like.
Now it's about that meeting that monster and not shaming that monster. Which I have to do with drugs and alcohol all the time, because obviously now, you know, there's a lot of temptation, the food, I'm not doing okay on the food, but I'm still overweight and I'm not, you know, I still have issues with the food, but the drugs and alcohol I've really had to work on recently because living in a car sucks sober. It's easy to do when you're fucking loaded all the time, but when you're sober, it's, it's very difficult. And I have to not shame that monster.
And I have to be like, I know you're there and I understand that you're scared. You are a scared part of me that feels that this is going to help you survive. And I understand that. And in some ways, sometimes I even get mushy with and say, I'm not going to abandon you just because we're not going to get high.
I'm not going to abandon you just because we're not going to let you run rampant with the things that I know is going to hurt us. But I can't let you do this to us. Right. You know, and that's when it's, that's when you can get to that point of surrender and find things like you're trying to do now that are going to help you get support to take away the insanity of the monster.
And it is a power exchange because ultimately you came to the conclusion, which millions of addicts and compulsive, every thing people do's have had to go, what I'm doing is not working and has failed millions of times. So obviously I need to take on the power of something that maybe has a better answer than I've been able to come up with. And that's where therapy and support and yoga or, you know, meditation or all of these different tools that I'm not currently doing right now have shown success. The long term success is I have to take away that monster's insanity on a daily basis.
I have to deal with this on a daily basis to not drink and use. I have to deal with it daily. Now then once you get good at it and you get into a program and you have your support and whatever that is, however that works for you, it's less. I struggle less with drugs and alcohol than I did when I first got sober.
Right. You know, the first 30 days just to get the physiological aspects out of the way and get it out of my system. That was one thing. But once I started getting more sane and doing the work and started to really meet myself and meet my monster, then all of a sudden I noticed it was longer in between those crazy battles.
Right. And I now had tools when, like you said, you know, your tool that day, that's why I don't want to discount that moment because it's one battle at a time. Yes, you celebrated the fucking chaos of that battle with a five hour binge. Yes, that might not have been the best celebration.
But in that moment, that moment worked and it was a power exchange with somebody that you respected that was able to talk you through it. Right. And without him, honestly, without him, I'm going to be real. He is a, he's an integral part of my growth in the last few years.
He's, he just has a tremendous amount of insight that it's amazing to me. And I always see him as this calm, you know, dominant, quiet guy. And when he comes up with stuff like this, I'll ask him, how, you know, what, what's going on with that? What's the backstory here?
And he'll tell me something about his childhood or his, you know, early adulthood. And it'll just blow me away that you would never, he never tells anybody. You ask him, he'll tell you that no problem telling you, but he's been through a lot that has taught him a tremendous amount of, given him a tremendous amount of knowledge on how to deal with those inner demons. So that's why I was hopeful that he is in this power exchange.
He'd be able to help me in the same way. And like I said, I'm not discounting that it. We won't be able to do something like that in the future and not at all. Or it's one tool in the toolbox and you need 50 tools in your toolbox.
Yes. And that's very much has been my approach. I, I knew that just finding the diet isn't going to work. So I've been incorporating everything, like you would not believe all the different things.
And then, you know, next week we're going to be talking about cognitive therapy and it's going to explain a little bit more about that. And I'm all, yeah, let's, let's go for it. So that it was good. Um, I wish I were that type of person who, uh, uh, you know, found solace in allowing myself to become enveloped in someone else's life, but I simply am not.
Uh, I'm very happy being with him on the weekend. And then when I come home, I need to unplug from that power exchange because Monday to Friday, I need my fucking life back. And I'm just never going to be somebody who can be in a 24 seven power exchange, but it was a tremendous, uh, help. And it was a great, uh, a great ride.
And I look forward to learning more stuff. Well, this was an amazing topic. And I'm pretty sure that out of our listeners there, there is a percentage of them that has the same struggle or surely somebody knows somebody that's going through this. And ultimately if you can be that support without judging and shaming them, cause if someone's got that monster, they're going to fail over and over and over again and telling them that they just need to use control, have some self control.
And you're all, you're, it's not going to work. We've done that ad nauseam, thousands of times in our life. There is no self control. It's an insanity.
It's a physiological fucking broken dam. That part is not going to heal. There needs to be other things. And so it's a great topic.
Obviously I can talk about this ad nauseam, but I'm not gonna cause we got some more show. Oh, let's get into that. There's a place where a family of birds will solicit you with a can of garden can mouth. Discord is a police, a spreeks home.
Ladies and good day to you. Was that Burby enough? That was pretty pretty. Was I creepy and Burby enough?
Like I'm sitting here literally at storage in my like, like underwear with my legs kind of spread on the chair. Got a thing of hand lotion there and a box of Kleenex and I'm like, ladies, how are you doing today? I can visualize that. Oh, dear.
That's terrifying because I'm lying. I have clothes on. There's no lotion. OK, there is a box of Kleenex, but I swear to God, it's a perfectly intention box of Kleenex.
All right, I'm lying. I'm a pervert. So how are you guys doing? What's going on?
This is you. It's been so long since the pervert podcast audience has heard from you. It got a little crazy and busy and heat waves and cold waves and everything. So we're back.
Well, here's the real question. Because, you know, life is life for everyone. But the really important thing on my mind and the pervert podcast listeners mind is besides the discord stuff that hopefully will have something to get through. Was there any sucky, fucking time?
Sucky, fucking or kinky time? Yeah, there was. I mean, there always is, but you know, well, oh, oh, wow, Mel, just let's be a diva. Why don't we?
Well, I mean, you know, there are. Oh, yes, oh my God, I throw dick around all the time. Well, some of us aren't getting much. Mel, so why not?
I know that's why I'm not running in. Go ahead and run away. So we can rub one out. Oh, my God.
So, Mel, if you can pick off of the hot fudge Sunday of your sexuality, can you tell us about something that happened recently? That's fun and sexy? Yeah, sure. I might have given Sarah a mouth hug on the one beach and the open beach.
Well, kind of we were kind of back in like an entrance way, you know, like a, like a, not really a boardwalk, but like walk down the dunes type thing. But yeah, nice. Did you do some 10 fuckies in the beach? No, we did play around underneath the beach house because we did have family with us.
So we played around in the little, you know, like how places will have like a private shower, we can wash the sand off before you go inside. Oh, yeah. Wash the sand off. Wash the sand off.
Yeah, water glistening off of Mel's skin while her surge grips her soapy crush in ownership. This cunt is mine, bitch. Yeah. So I got, yeah, just a little mutual masturbation, but you know, it was fun.
Yeah, it was exciting. Well, it's good. It's such a great erotic fantasy that is just so shitty in reality because sand is not yeah, sand make bad loop bad. Kind of the antithesis of Lou, but yeah, don't don't kink shame the sand pepper dough is.
That's right. We did have a partner that literally wanted me to fill her pussy with just beach sand. I don't even want to. And I was I was studying because initially I'm like, Hey, you know what?
It's your vagina. This is something you really want. Totally cool. But then, you know, the safety factor kicks in.
I start doing some research on it and you know, there's some people that do it. But of course, little granules of sand creeping into the cervix or places and, you know, maybe you'll make a pearl. I don't know. But it says it's beautiful, but it does not make pearls.
It doesn't. It depends on what you think of a pearl. I have been hunting incorrectly in my entire life. I swear I was told that treasure was up there.
That's it. I'm going gay. Oh, that's not. No, I'm not.
Jesus fucking Christ. What have you done, Kinky? Have you done stuff with the ung? You mean that asshole that now lives with me?
Yes. Apparently that's a yes. And it was mildly ungarcidistic do tell do tell. So so we've we've gone through quite a bit of plastic wrap recently.
We had a bunch when we moved and we were swearing around with that. Now we have to get more. So I tend to go kitty at night because I get all sleepy and tired and I get all scratchy and bitey and that led to kitty paws, which led to grabbing my hands, grabbing the both plastic in the blankets and giving me what we now call T-Rex kitty paws because I could have my arms for my chest. I was like, me, me, me, me.
Oh my God. And then does he do things to you when you're properly restrained? Yeah, because now he can only just get just grabs the blanket and like pins it behind my back with one arm and then his other hands often fucking clam land looking for oyster pearls. That sounds so sexy.
I'm going down to clam land with my other hand. Gonna look for pearls. Nobody says finger anymore. They're not fingers.
They're too big to be fingers. They're under their ogre logs. There is no fisting involved here. And Unger Pinky is like a fist.
Yeah. And that's bad though. Yeah. Okay.
It's too much. I can't take it. No. Can you take a pinky?
You can find out. Maybe make a show of it. Oh, yes. And the ogre explores the acy-vage.
That sounds like a good segment. I will talk to Unger after this. Oh, yes. We will arrange it.
You've now committed to it. Oh, no, please don't make me. Oh, no, don't tell me until that. Yeah, go ahead.
Let's do this. That was so not convincing. That was like literally the worst damsel in distress cry. I think I've ever heard in my life.
Well, okay. Well, I'm glad you guys have been at least having some fun times over there. That is always exciting to hear. And I know the listeners are excited.
They're just about any kinky love time that we can get our paws on to. But is there anything going on in the discord? Remember that thing? The discord?
Those kids, those cookie kids. Those perverted deprived people. First off, how do people find the discord? Because people are emailing and saying they can't find it.
And Kathy and I are bitching like old people again. Well, I believe you have it on the website. Preverted podcast outcome, but it's also a sticky on our that life group. So join the that life group.
Preverted podcast. That's a link didn't work. You know what? Y'all got to yell at me and DM me or something and let me know this.
I'll check it. But yeah, you should just be able to click the link. We've been we've gotten a few new members since the last time we spoke. But I think I think well, so it is working somewhere.
Yeah, somebody's getting to work. Well, that's cool. So is there anything going on in the discord that we can talk about? Yes.
That is very much a kick with the info. Well, our lovely discord viewers do have access to this channel called sexy talk and it's had a bit of cobwebs right now. So sexy talk is a place where you can come in and anyone's invited to listen to whatever crazy, perverted, hot, erotic, whatever you decide to do in there. We do have a few members who like take advantage of it.
One in particular was ordered to stay in moaning, writhing with a Hitachi on until the battery died and so many lovely sounds. So this is basically like free audio porn in the discord live. So people can go in so certain people can go in and be like, well, we're gonna do some sucky-focky and they go in and they start playing. And then it's just you guys are all the voyeur perverts sitting in the side.
Yeah, exactly. So you can have your exhibition side come out and you can have your voyeur side come out and everyone's really nice about it. It's been great. That is great.
And I know you guys, we used to talk about it. You used to do it quite a bit. So it's very exciting that you've started back into that because there's a need. Yep.
There's definitely a need. I think everyone has that need. Very, very glad that that is backup. Goddamn it.
Go perverts. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. Okay. Any good discussions?
How do you feel about leftover Halloween candy? Analee? I mean, if you want to, it's cheap right after Halloween, right? I guess so.
Well, apparently some of our viewers have decided gum wrappers are chemical play wrappers. No, you mean like cinnamon gum wrappers and mint gum wrappers? Yeah, just put it right on those sensitive bits and you get a nice kingly feeling. It reminds me of when you did was it Altoids?
Altoids. Yeah. Oh my God. I never even thought of that gum wrappers.
That is amazing. Like a whole pack like out here. I don't know if in the UK they have it. We have big red out here, which is like a really cinnamony spicy gum.
So I never thought of saving the wrappers for chemical play. I mean, we're all cheap skates. If you can find a cheap way to do it, do it, right? Yeah, I'm pretty sure a gum wrapper is a pretty goddamn inexpensive way to play of one piece, you know, your dollar that you spend on the pack of gum, you know, you get what eight pieces.
So that's a 12 cents a placing. I'm pretty sure. Make the bottom blow up for that. Even homeless as motherfucker.
Me can afford that. So did you guys try that? Don't don't give over to the ideas. Oh, no.
I'm there. Big red. No, but I can imagine as soon as Surlistens to the show, I'm not in trouble. Have you guys either done any chemical play or altoids or figging or anything like that?
Yes. The unintentional, the intentional hot pepper fingers. Oh, yeah, it's better if you prepare. It's always better if you know it's coming.
Because then there's not that horror of what the fuck is happening. Yeah, that's true. Very good. Even I've done that.
I'm the intentional, icy, hot and the unintentional second degree burn of habanero peanuts or Carolina, river peanuts. Oh, second degree burn on your on your on your vivé. Because someone likes to go down after eating California and like, what is it? Carolina, river peanuts?
Yeah, sure. Come to and then go down on you. Sure. Why not?
Oh, yeah, those are the stools. It won't stop tingling. I mean, awful, but still I'm a pervert. I have to laugh a little.
Laugh at me, waddling towards the bathtub. Why don't you? Oh, it doesn't sound like a good experience, but you did you like that? Did you say you tried altoids?
Oh, no, you said icy hot. I see hot. I do that on my own. Do you like icy hot?
It feels good. People think I'm crazy, but I like the way it feels. It tingles. I suggest if anyone tries this, take a question.
Don't listen to me. Don't don't do what the ogre ducking. I took his time to his line. Don't do what the ogres girl does.
Don't do it. Well, I mean, it's just like it's like anything. The more you prepare for something, the better the experiment is going to be, just like with figging instead of ramming an entire fig up your ass without any warning and giving it a try, there's nothing wrong with just wiping your finger on it a little bit and then touching your butthole with it and seeing how that works. And it's the same thing with any type of chemical play.
If you use icy hot or gum wrappers or whatever you use instead of like just going for it, which I guess you can, you know, risk aware, but it'd be better to just, you know, just start with a little teeny piece and rub it in and then just see how it affects because all skin is different. All sensitivity in that area is different. And just as when we experimented with figging shows that some people are like, Oh, like that's not a big deal. And then some people are like, you know, running around with their badge on fire.
Yeah, definitely. And then it's definitely nothing wrong, starting small because the thing with the chemical play is you can say red, but it's not going to stop the sensation. It's if it's already going. Yeah, that is a good point.
So like start small and wait 20 minutes to see if it ramps up or dies down before you go for a whole what knob of ginger up your ass. It's like a pot brownie, man. Don't ever eat the whole thing because you think you're not feeling anything. Just just don't just eat the half and just wait a few hours.
It'll be OK. I didn't even know I was just talking to someone about I'm sober eight years. I never even had a pot brownie because I was a smoker, but I know so many people that just like literally they're like, I love cookies and I'm going to eat five of these and now I'm going to the ER thinking that I'm dying. Oh, just.
Yeah. It's a really nasty trick to put drugs and cookies for fat people. It really, really, really, really, really, really is. I'm so glad I don't do that anymore because I know I would be in the hospital literally every other day because I would never learn.
You would never learn as a drug addict. Mel say I'm OK. I'm OK. I'm cool.
I'm cool. My titties are awesome. My teeth are awesome. Oh, I pierced and they're gorgeous.
Oh, yeah. Why do I not get to see these? You don't go here. You're not scored.
You don't you don't you don't discord. It's not that I want it's not that I won't go on the discord. It's that I'm retarded. You can't that's like kicking the handicap there.
I'm old. All right. So Mel, was there anything else going on in discord? Yeah, we had a member asking about having a partner that's pretty new to kink and they were sub-dropping pretty hard and they didn't want to ask too much of them that they wanted to, you know, address the sub drop and try to navigate it.
Oh, very good. So did you guys have that's actually a fantastic topic? We talked about that on the show a lot. Did you guys have any ideas like what you personally do for sub drop?
Yeah, definitely. So a lot of people brought in a lot of different ideas. There are some very touchy feely people here who are straight in hugs and cuddles and have your favorite candy and whatnot. Great advice.
But then you also have someone like me who get the hell away from me. Don't touch me during my sub drop. So it was really nice because we got to see both both sides and there's definitely a lot more sides to this, but there were so many options given and a lot of encouragement of don't feel like you're going to be a burden by saying that these are things that you need. It's normal, it's human.
Absolutely. So, Aki, if you could favor us as somebody who doesn't like a lot of the touchy feely cuddly during your drop, what are some of the things that work for you? So for me, right after a scene, I'm usually super full of energy. I like I clean up.
I go clean up their stuff, whatever, if I'm especially if I'm the one bottoming. Pretty much it's just like, Hey, can you just give me my water? Come back and let's see if I'm OK. Don't try to hug me.
Don't try to cuddle me. Don't touch my hair. Just go. Go.
That's me personally. And then normally I just I asked them like, Hey, I know you're going to want to check in because anyone I've played with does the responsible thing checking in. I tell give me 24 hours check in. And then that's when we talk and I check in with them as well because I know a lot of tops find it strange that I don't want any aftercare right after.
They're like, did I do something wrong? Do they hate me? I give them the affirmation. No, I don't need you.