deadly builder of your sirs that's fun, that's fun, that's fun, sirs Arlit doesh who's fucking low dude? that's right, cathy you just choke on that fucking creative explorer come in the back of your throat get yourself ready i was not i was choking on a cough drop you pervert so not inspiring at the beginning of a show i thought you were totally literally just like sucking them off just like yeah that's right mama's gonna do a show oh my god in the back of my throat no it's okay i'm ready i'm ready to do a show and that's that but no cough drop is definitely a giant elevator down to the floor of lameness can you imagine what you would do if i mean i drink a glass of water while we're recording a ufrito fuck out can you imagine what would happen if i said excuse me boogie i have to go suck some dick right now just hold on a minute cathy that would be amazing no you say that but literally no cathy no this is perverted podcast we do demos like that we used to do demos like that all the time our listeners would be elated to hear some cathy goble goble oh my god elated cathy make it so i shall not make it so i'm gonna be up a card i'm gonna do my my percard cathy number two make it so make it so goble creative explorer's dick because if i can't get meat in my mouth cathy you got to get meat in your mouth oh my god one of us has to get meat in our mouths is that it one of us because i'm not getting the fucking pig meat in my mouth right now oh my god you need to do it i will explain after we start the show the following show is for mature audiences only listener discretion is advised and if you don't like it please go fuck yourself one two three four do you feel your sex life is quite lame scared that your desires might be strange come and join the kinky world of play hello and welcome to the perverted podcast the show where we explore the adventures of the kinky lifestyle sex and a human mind recording tonight through zencaster the website that just happened to be in the right place at the right time for this pandemic i'm cathy i am count boogie and cathy no you are not sucking creative explorer meat and i am not suckling the meat of thine dried pig i don't know what you just said when you try and act you know talk all fancy i can't understand you well god damn it take the fucking corn cob out of your ass because i got some spainan to do all right go ahead the united states postal service has decided that i should not have meat therefore i am meatless today it was supposed to be joe and me in the storage and meat and there was none none of that i'm trying really hard to figure out what you mean by meat that's coming through the mail yes mail meat but not mail ma Ellie meat mail ma'ala well you know there's always a chance there's always a chance cathy that one day you and i just together will be just will go off into like Griffith Park at night and just start sucking off dudes you and me together talking about actually that was a porn star that i used to date she said that's what she used to do with her gay friend they would like go up into the hills apparently there's a hiking trail in Griffith Park out here in los angeles by the zoo and and it's like i guess a lot of gay guys hook up there or they used to and so she used to go out there with her gay friend and they used to just go suck off guys and so yeah that's called that's called living that's called living Kathy that's the hillside strangler shows up well didn't i guess give him a blowjob and he won't feel that urge to kill anymore you know who knows maybe okay that didn't work for jeffree dumber but maybe it could you know subdue another serial killer you're like hey you feel like going out and killing random people you why not just get a blowjob from cathy i have a suggestion let's not start the show by talking about serial killers okay then we'll talk about my meat okay the meat the meat not going in my mouth well the problem is is okay of course this has to do with leah spencer because meat in the mail is a leah spencer thing her boss they live in texas and her boss guy that she's basically his dominant and he's the pay pig he every year they go to like the pig auctions and he's like a obsessed with honey baked ham which if you don't know what honey baked ham is here in the states they basically take a ham and they take a torch and they glaze honey all around it and then bake it and it's it's like ham crack it is ham crack and it's like 80 bucks for a hump of this shit right and so this guy sends everyone honey baked hands like three times a year leah fucking eight honey baked ham she's sick of ham this has been going on for 20 years like 10 years ago when i lived at larry she like mailed me a honey baked ham they did the pig auction and they bought a whole pig and then they slaughtered it and she sent me literally 65 pounds of pork you know like leah sending me meat is a thing right but it's been a lot of years so here it comes christmas sure enough the guy fucking everyone get your honey baked ham she's like a fucking eight honey baked ham i'll never eat it i'm like you don't know how good meat sounds right now because i'm kind of meatless you know and she's like i will send you this fucking ham and i go i can't eat 10 pounds of how i would try i would try to eat 10 pounds maybe i would come over and you and i could knock out three or four pounds in a city we would not be happy afterwards that's true it would probably be some type of you know terminal sickness thing right so she's like i'll mail to you and i'm like well i don't have an refrigerator to store it and so but all of a sudden i remember i go wait a minute you got that big fancy food dehydrator 10 levels professional she got into all the dehydration groups they fucking dehydrated everything from baby wipes to toothpaste to meat to fruits and vegetables people dehydrate everything so she's in this group and i go why don't you it's already spiral cuts so why don't you throw it in and dehydrate it and then ship it to me and that way you know i can store that not that it's gonna last long but it's just in theory you know right so she's like fuck it i'll dehydrate an entire 80 dollar honey baked ham and i will ship that fucker to you and she did she did kathy almost two pounds it dehydrated from like the eight pounds to two pounds of glorious succulent sticky in my mouth meat wait a minute no so that's like a ham jerky now it's now honey baked jerky got it okay which you know you know i to all of our vegan and vegetarian friends fuck off okay so back to the meat so she sends it and she's like it's okay don't fuck off if you're vegan or vegetarian okay you know i'm just you know i'm just very pro meat right now because i'm hungry so it's good to be vegetarian i wish i'll eat less meat but still eat meat but just not every meal okay that's their public service announcement the more you know back to the pig okay back to the pig back to the pig so she's like it's gonna be here on tuesday and i'm like waiting for it and joe has been nice enough to say well you can ship things to my place because it's safe to get things here so i shipped a couple things there and i'm like well you're gonna be on the show so on tuesday get the meat and then on wednesday he had to be kind of out here so we'll record your segment in storage because he's desperate to get out of the fucking house so yesterday he calls it's supposed to be there like two days ago and he's like not here my meat's kathy the meat that's supposed to go in my mouth like creative explorers dicks succulently goes into your mouth except kind of different maybe tastes different i hope it tastes different i mean it loud if dick tastes like honey baked ham i should reevaluate my orientation i was gonna say okay if it did i would be finding ten guys to suck off oh my god it doesn't though does it no unfortunately no okay i mean i sure i could pour honey on it or brown sugar but it's just would not be the same and then glaze it with a torch that's probably not safe well then i'd want to bite it and that's no good okay so i'll stay ahead for another day we'll talk about this again tomorrow so he's like hey it's not here and i'm like and so it's totally not there so i'm like leah sickam you know because he's gonna be quite a karen on the phone so she'll call and she finds out and she's like oh i found it your package if you don't know american geography then you won't know what the fuck this is so she's like oh it just arrived at the station in new Orleans Louisiana what did it go backwards that is a thousand miles in the wrong fucking direction so good thing is dehydrated it's the fucking what they literally sent my meat it's now two days late in the wrong direction in louisiana i'm in los angeles fuckers how did that blah wow so apparently no meat but then all of a sudden joe calls me today and he's like hey you're meat got here so they must have put it on a plane because they realized that they fucked up and sent it a thousand miles so they must have put it on the usps plane yesterday after it got and then so i'm like my my fucking hand went to new Orleans maybe fucking saw some titties at marty gras you know did some shit better time than we are it's having the pig is having a great time that jerky has seen more traveling than i have so what you're saying is tomorrow you're going to get your dehydrated meat and you and joe are going to record something yes while eating the meat so i just wanted to preface it that's why i wanted to talk about because we have nothing else actually to talk about um so we're going to talk about that that was it that was the potato mayhem which is now ham because we didn't have potatoes oh my god really i don't know cathy you didn't suck any dick this week no um brat blackout went into effect last night at five p.m. fuck yeah fuck yeah but yeah hero sauce two and a half weeks man that's right that's right he doesn't want to take a break that's right you're talking about better me why are you so excited about this well i mean i think it's good that you stand up for yourself i think it would be and we'll talk about this when we get into let's get into the fat life topic because this is because this is kind of goes in line yeah it's kind of similar so let's just do that thank you all for listening to my meat story once again no hard feelings vegans you know i like you some of your food but okay here we go that life is the place we share our kinkith thrills it's from around the world yeah but if our gas talking about that life mutha fucker why your peace of mind please know that the author of every post we talk about his specifically granted his permission to do so today we have a returning author a mischief managed that has allowed us to use his post-it title just rotate your wand oh my god rotate your wand over bunny's pussy when you say that you're such a dork that's what you do mischief manage like a cherry potter believe me i know okay all right he wrote a post called embracing the void of when a partner is with another person and he says today my partner went on a poly date with someone she met at work i used to be uncomfortable with this probably because i had some lingering jealousy issues but this time it's different it wasn't the discomfort of her being with another man it's that there's a palpable void around me i've gotten so used to her being by my side with us doing things together or simply recuperating from life together that i can feel the vacuum of her not being there but this void isn't a bad thing her absence allows me to dedicate my attention to others that may hopefully become just as important to me as she is and even if another person doesn't feel the space other things can a hobby time for self-care sharing my feelings with those i care about so we can grow just a little closer so that hopefully one day a multitude of lives can overlap be shared and find spaces to give each person our full attention during these moments well you're here very interesting very very very interesting for me now wait was i supposed to say something else i'd be sounded like you were going up on something i i i paused to give you that i started thinking about the fucking ham you know what you're gonna be no good to me for the rest of the show because you've got ham on the brain that's all you can think of oh my god no no no daddy this topic is really really good for me right now because it's kind of like growing pains and learning in my kind of change in dynamic with you uh but i would like to hear your thoughts first because you're a little more experienced in this type of void of the partners now with somebody else right now i don't if this is a very subtle post it seems to really not if i would imagine a lot of people reading this would go well yeah that's that's a no brainer you just your partner's not there you try and do other things but to me it means a lot more than that the reason why i liked it when i read it the first time was that it's i i'm i'm kind of a contradiction because i love being alone i love my independence i like spending time just with myself and then i like to go out and socialize with people but i always need to come back to my own solitude it's something that grounds me and i very much enjoy unfortunately i'm also somebody who makes a very deep groove for herself when she gets into the habit of anything and i don't really notice it until i happen to look down one day and go ha i've dug myself quite a groove into this and i'm used to it and i don't like letting go of it it doesn't come easily to me so i'm a bit of a mess inside my head when it comes to stuff like this but i have found that what he discusses in the post is very much what saves me when i feel that i can't be with creative explorer or with my previous partner or anybody else and it's not really me this isn't just about uh this is a life lesson it's not just about your set partners or your king partners it's about anything that i find becomes a habit and something that i really really like that i'm doing over and over again and i expect it and i want it and i get really upset in one of the tantrum when it's not there and then all i have to do is calm down remember that i'm someone who likes being alone and suddenly it's as if the whole world opens up for me i know how crazy that sounds but i get so mired down in the fact that i can't have the thing that i want and i start to feel depressed and all i feel is distanced and then my old friend self-doubt creeps in and does the rest and makes me feel like shit because oh yeah creative explorer just he must like somebody else other than me that's it any day now he's gonna dump me and before you know it i'm going into a full-on depression and usually i have found that surprisingly it takes very little to knock myself out of it when i stop when i'm doing figuratively turn around and look at the rest of my life and realize you know what i didn't even realize it but there's this project i wanted to do there's that person i wanted to talk to there's this video i wanted to see and i suddenly find in the most ridiculous and funny way that i actually don't even have enough time to do the things i want to do because i'd forgotten that i had put all those things on the back burner and then they come flooding in and i'm suddenly find myself going from being depressed to very happy and you know me boogie you know that that's not something that happens in my life i don't easily go from depression to happy so this is something that when i read it i thought oh my god i gotta talk to this especially to the people who listen to our show because they're so used to hearing me talk about the bad things in my life that i thought it would be nice to discuss um things that in areas in my life that actually do go well without a lot of effort on my part i find it very easy to stop what i'm doing and like i already said figuratively turn around and look at uh the rest of my life and realize oh god damn it i got a lot of my play that i want there's a lot that i want to do what the fuck am i so depressed about? Kathy that is such a anomaly to how i perceive so many things about the void and poly and your partner leaving it's like i admire that i admire that it seems so foreign to me and now i'm kind of experiencing it and of course i've experienced other things and like you said before i'd like to get more into the other stuff about the void that's from an augumous people as well as poly people and for anybody but it's just it's inspiring to hear you talk about an actual turn and an actual kind of relief and happiness that comes from discovering that you do have other things in your life when your partner is not there and surely you have limitless opportunities to create things and to take on new projects and learn new things and like this guy talked about in the post um this is a chance for me to actually be with some of my other partners or go out and cultivate some of these relationships and potential play partners because a lot of times the void is like the codependency that have been removed from the reality that you are actually not in a monogamous relationship and you are required to fill your own life with things other than your partner because like this guy talks about sometimes there's the poly where it's like oh yeah we're poly but nobody really has a full-time other partner that you don't share together or something so it kind of then becomes like non-monogamy where you're you get into that zone and you spend so much time and you've talked about it where you spend a lot of time with creative explorer and then it's kind of like monogamous but then all of a sudden bam he gets another partner yeah and all of a sudden you're like oh shit that's right that we're poly exactly this is this is this is what we oh i actually have to do because then you're because the whole time you're like in that kind of like codependent denial you're like yeah we're totally poly but you know we spend every moment together so so it's kind of like easy poly i don't have to work on anything i just tell myself i'm poly but now all of a sudden my the most primary partner that i have which is mu is now literally pretty much living with this guy you know in med school and so we used to live together and now we don't live together and now she lives with another guy and so the void is something i really had to kind of look at because there was but her in there you know i can't deny there's not a not a conversion guy fuck this guy right you know i'm sure he's a swell hell of a guy and and she talks about him very highly and whatever but the void for me had to point at my own codependency on the unhealthy side that i'm like i can't depend on some other person to be there and validate me for me it's beyond sexuality it's beyond relationship i have to get up and live a life i can't just get into i just can't stay in some zone where i'm not doing things and discovering things for myself like you talked about oh i got this video to do the thing and the guy was talking about you know the other opportunities he has you can get into that rut where you're just so used to the other person or even if you have more than one partner that you're still not exploring your life yeah i and the good a good thing you bring that up because it's very true it you can use that as a good barometer if the person that you're with suddenly has other partners or spending time doing other things and you feel so bereft because you look around you and you find that your life is someone's turned the lights off because there's not a lot going on there my friend you got some problems because that means you've been neglecting your own mental health that is not a healthy thing speak it sister truth truth i'm like my hands church cock lord cock speak it reverend cathie and i've been there before i don't like that place i don't like when i've gone so far down the rabbit hole that i don't even realize i'm down there and i look around and i feel sick to my stomach that i've allowed things to get that bad and all honestly hasn't happened for a long time it used to happen to me a lot when i was younger i had to realize that there has to be a balance in life there absolutely has to be a balance i can still prefer spending time with him and still enjoy the rest of my life so it's a good thing i mean unless of course i've enacted the black out which i currently have in which case i'm the one who brought this on motherfucker and i'm not going to see you for two and a half weeks that's right that's right inlet yeah you let him grovel i'm really not a good chick wingman you know i like yeah we're gonna go get a mani pettie god damn it fuck him you need a you need a makeover this doesn't work when it comes for me but i would no because he's having a fabulous time i was at work going i was oh no wait i don't get my bag ready to go tonight so when i leave from work tomorrow i go straight to his place and i did that thing where i remember katty you got it you got to look at the rest of your life and suddenly i was like oh wait a second here i can totally sleep in on saturday i don't have to worry about anything else i can do whatever the fuck i want and i was like oh yeah yeah that's a good feeling i forgot what that was like that my life is now my own i'm gonna binge on some goddamn hulu and i'm gonna make myself some french fucking toast it's true it's goddamn true but something that's also to bring it back once again this applies to so many parts of your life and monogamous relationships are no different because people have to go away for school they have family obligations they have work our obligations there's a lot of reasons that all of a sudden you're part of the pandemic you know obviously you don't get to see people as much and whatever and it really does like you said all of a sudden shine the light on you and go how much of your life have you spent building plans outside of your just zone in your relationship and and that's what i kind of had to look at when i was feeling butt about all of a sudden he was now living with this guy and it's not me and our dynamics changed and blah blah blah and it's just like she doesn't owe me a life right she doesn't owe me an existence you know when i was daddy to her and she was doing the emcat thing i was in a zone every day because i had a mission every day you know with her with bunny with the other partners i was in a zone but now that that's kind of gone i really have to you know i have the show which has saved my life because you know i get to be the show daddy and work on the show and then i have therapy you know there are other things to do to be useful in life other than just hold out for your your your partners right so i love this post it was at a perfect time for me and i think it's at a perfect time for a lot of people because we're all in that void trying to discover things to do with our lives while we're still at the all this uncertainty and your restriction right absolutely that's a good post thank you once again to a mischief managed for like a mission managed and blah blah yes mr weasily i will buy your map well the weasleys stole the map right you know or got it wired it and then they gave it fucking harry who you know didn't really use it well harry did not use shit well i just got to say i was disappointed in harry potter in a lot of ways we all know what you would do with it boogie okay fucking give me that invisibility cloak i'm gonna go look at some pussies man i'm just gonna go or i'm gonna just sneak into the girls room i'll tell them i'm not gonna be all rapey or whatever you know maybe my fantasy is just a little but you know i'm gonna mischief manage i'm gonna check this shit i'm gonna know where everyone is and i'm just gonna be like i'm coming to your room tonight or miney and we're gonna do some shit stop it gross gross what gross that people have enter cars no that pervs like you would put on an invisibility cloak and go and watch naked women without their consent mr man it's a fantasy i can do whatever i want my head because right and you're a fantasy in your head her mind and you secretly likes it that's the thing it's not right but if there's secretly one and then we had some weird subliminal psychic dream fantasy negotiation where she's like coming here and i'm not gonna remember that we had this conversation until after the act and then i'm gonna be like oh yes this worked out perfectly i totally am a better person because of this place scene don't even know i can't do that fantasies all right you can have your stupid fantasy i want the invisibility cloak man okay well get together with bunny and i'm sure she'll play along with you oh yes bunny will come into the cloak with me and then we will both go and put mischief managed mailbox i don't think short ones actually uh nat wrote to us and he says do you guys talk about furries on your show do you have episodes where you all focus on that topic because i'd really like to know and hopefully you can give your opinions on furries here's a thing boogie yeah i wish i knew more about furries because it is a topic that has fascinated me unfortunately i have zero experience with it i other than watching uh anger every once in a while dress up that's about it but i don't think he's a furry is he no but i mean there's furries that are furry just like any kind of any kink there's people that are committed to it full time and then there are weekend warriors you know they just enjoy it when they enjoy it or whatever so i think as far as a roleplay uh a lot more people enjoy that but you kind of have to have the outfit right you know but as far as pet play and furry play i'm kind of like you i don't have a whole lot of experience other than knowing people that are furries and they talk about their costumes and and uh yeah they really get into that more like lorally mission who i used to do i'm she was like used to be huge in the bdsm video community i've done videos with her that i've talked about on the show and she has literally like 12 gorilla costumes and furry costumes and you know like she has spent time in those costumes right and and enjoys the space of becoming that furry and then of course the sexual versus non-sexual aspects of it just like pet play or age play um right it would be neat to have a real i think we haven't we no we never have i mean we so cosplay is not the same as being a furry and littles of course littles cosplay and furries can have some overlap i would imagine it's just that from the little i do know about furries which admittedly is not a lot there is a a way that they really getting touched with that animal part of themselves sure it's not it's not just cosplay to them and so i what surprises the fuck out of me is that here in los angeles where there is so much crossover where we even have um you know kinky gaming nights we've i've never seen any crossover from the furry community if indeed there is even one here you know we've had it we've had it threshold i and surely it's coming in full costume not often yeah not a lot of pet play people come in exactly and i think that that's that pet play in the others that i've mentioned can become um you know it's all great together you can look at someone and go lispersons dress up are they into pet play are they a furry are they a little what's going on are they into cosplay and it could be any one of those and i think maybe that's the reason why it's hard to find someone who is strictly a furry identifies that way and can talk about it but let me tell you there's anybody out there listening any of our listeners who have any expertise in this area or if they are free i would love to hear from them it would be a really cool thing to interview them i think it would be great i'm very very excited and maybe you and i can do a little more investigation and at least find some of the basic philosophies because that's kind of like what our job is on the show even if we don't yeah we've done that a lot with all sorts of bitch yes it's hard are you in your car outside of starbucks yelling bitch no i'm in the low's david's bridle some weird sports shop i'm back in my like big wide open space i can go come on and nobody cares there's a tree that's next to me and some cars that are parked all right well maybe one of us will look into that no yeah well it was a meeting me thanks oh yeah all right i have one more email from mel who wrote in to us and says caddy i totally meant to email yesterday but i got sidetracked with mccrismas tree crap and other stuff and now it's almost the end of the day and i just now remember happy birthday you delectable damsel of deviosity i hope your day was filled with filading and fornicating all the loves and hugs even if they are a tad late that is quite a mouthful of an email she i think she just made up a word deviosity and i love her for it thank you so much deviosity is a good word deviosity is urban dictionary worthy for damn sure hey man i was gonna ask you well first off cathy yes we have to play you the birthday son happy birthday you're a pervert get your spankings happy birthday whips and crops and canes thank you this day we celebrate the pervert that is you because when you're kinky you can have your cake and beat it too whack whack whack happy birthday you are great yes caddy yeah happy birthday now then we talked before that weren't you with creative explorer on your birthday yes it was a crazy day in which everybody made plans and then the lockdown went into stricter effect and we couldn't get together we were we were gonna do something light anyway and it was a big jumble of a crazy day where we ended up i came back home here and had brunch with my sister right and creative explorer to my great shock said i want to go with you and i'm a what what you want to leave the house and actually come to my place and so it came with me and we sat down we had a lovely impromptu brunch in the patty weeks change yeps then we went back home and i had to cancel an evening that we were gonna get together with my god daughter because her birthday was the very next day um you know what we end up doing he said but i want you to have something you want to do because i had told him that traditionally my sister and i we would go to carnees every year on our birthday and have lunch because carnees was a place it's a chili hamburgers and hot dogs place here all right hey so the real road the box they converted the box car into the restaurant is that carnees yes it's a terrible bar it's amazing i love it and we've been going there since we were in high school but but they weren't even doing um there's not shut down but they're only doing a take out and delivery so yeah we couldn't do that and i said and creative explorer just was so nice he's all i thought we should still do something that you want to do what you want to do what do you want to do dick what hey it's not about the dick oh my god you didn't get later birthday you didn't get laid on your birthday all right get to that i don't care about those sorry look yo i'm trying to tell you something that you did was nice because i couldn't go to carnees because where do you what else you want to go and i said i want to go to this place that i haven't been to in literally decades that is my favorite pizza on the planet it's numero uno numero uno that is some straight up 80s shit right there it totally is there used to be one down the street from my house they closed down i didn't even know they were still open and we found one just a mere 15 minutes away from where he lives and i was just through the roof i was so happy so we went we ordered a picture back home i got my numero uno it was a surprisingly uh toned down but nice birthday i had a great time but then he slid his little explorer into you his little ex-lorer he just he just turned on the four wheel drive of his little explorer and wait rroom vroom why is his penis squeaking why does it have to squeak like that well because you went through metaposs and you're dry i don't know oh why you got I gotta get an old lady dig in there.
That's just mean. You just walked into it, that's why I don't look. Yeah, so me. Now it's nice to me.
She calls me all kinds of nice things and you're just a dick. I played, you know, I played a jingle. Oh, well, I guess I can hope for. Well, you won't let me give you a hand job.
A hand job? No, I'm gonna hand job for you. I wouldn't even let you give me a hand job. Why would I let you do it?
Too shay. Ha ha ha. Herverted podcast listener segue. Joe, this is a magical time.
Do you know what this means, Joe? We're live. That means that we are actually now in the love locker, which you have now named Count Boogie's storage unit. This is fantastic.
I was like, hey, this is literally the first time that I have record with another human being and probably like, oh, thank you for recognizing I'm human. Well, you are a dude, so you have to deficit. But we do have you live and here in the love locker. The love, well, that's great because I don't have a love lab but now in the storage unit, Joe comes in, he's all, oh, you mean like the love locker?
And I go, yes, this is the love locker. The love locker. Joe, God damn it, it's really good to see you again. It's good to be here.
You just had a big trip yesterday where you went into the desert and did some photographs. Yep. Played bongos. Played bongos in the drums.
Played out in the middle of nowhere with nobody around for miles. So it was pandemic friendly. It was. I was definitely social distancing from the world.
Social distancing. I was 100 miles north of here, right? In the middle of nowhere playing my bongos. That is amazing, Joe.
Very, very, very excited to hear that. So you brought with you, Kathy and I, I bitched about this literally for decades at the beginning of the show. And here it is. This is it.
The box. The box that has traveled apparently all over America that we are now going to open while I don't even have a mic stand. This is it. This is that jerky.
This is it. Sorry to have my drums to do a drum beat on. Now, of course, it doesn't fucking open. Let me play by play.
He's ripping up the box. He's pulling out the ham. He is amazed by the ham. We have ham.
Oh my god. Look at it, Joe. That's almost two pounds of ham. And it's only going to cost you a handling fee of one pound.
Oh my god. It's been all of it. Joe? Yes.
Would you like to partake? I think we need to partake in the magic ham. Oh my god. It's going to be good.
It's going to be so good. You can smell it by honey. Oh my god, Joe. For you, reach in.
Grab yourself a nice big. Oh, that smells so good. Just OK. Oh, yeah.
You ever buy it? Yum. I'll just think of that. Nothing more needs to be said.
Yum. Dude, that totally works with beef. Oh, yes. It definitely does.
An $80 honey baked ham converted into beef. That's fucking good. Oh, yes, it is. Nom, nom, nom.
We're just going to have a little man meet bonding time right now. I never thought it'd be bonding with a man and meet. Over me. Yeah.
Over me. But it's pretty good. Oh my god. So Joe, the reason I have you down here, because of course, you've been in the community.
Oh, about 20 years, maybe a little longer now. And you've been active most of that, obviously now. Yes, I know. It's a little bit, but you're pretty active in the past.
Yeah, everything's good for the last year, but basically a year. But you have a year the guy that makes all the leather stuff for the new perfect podcast listeners. Joe is our leather working guy. He makes amazing things.
We're trying to get him more into actually making stuff to sell for people because it's incredible and you have time now. Whoa. Too much time. But then you have to deal with people's shit.
What are they? What are they? What are they? So Joe doesn't really want to start his Etsy page or whatever.
Oh, that's not entirely true. I don't want to make a hobby and a hobby and something I really love into a job. I feel you. But you do make stuff for people.
Oh, yes. Quite a few. So if they want to find where can they actually look at some of the stuff you make? I mean, we've shown stuff that you've got on.
I'm on FET Life on Emma, Undersport Gray, G-R-E-Y. OK. That's the I've got a lot of pictures there. All right.
So I want to go and look at some of Joe's cool leather work. He's made like little Hitachi holders and, you know, bunny and news cat mask and bunny mask that they love. Absolutely. I love watching the videos with them wearing it.
Oh, my God. There's a few other people around who have my masks and a bunch of my toys and stuff. But like I said, it's more of a labor of love than something I want to turn into a job. I hear you.
I hear you. But if you ever did want to make it a job, you know we want to support you. Oh, my God, it'd be jerky. That was so good.
Ham jerky. Ham jerky. Oh, my God. In the love locker.
Got a stick in the level. This is a big day. This is a very big day for us. This is moving in some direction.
And of course, you had COVID. Yes, I did. You had COVID in March. In March.
And that was one of the first people in 7-0 Valley to have it. That was a thrill for you. I think I might have had it in February. I haven't had the antibody test, but I had all the things that they had.
And that was about a year ago. So we are for every day. We are social distancing. We are still six feet.
We came in with masks and everything. We are now over six feet apart and obviously not using masks. So we can talk into the microphone. So I don't want people to think that we're not, you know, being supportive of the system that's in place.
But you have a couple of experiences that you filled out on the question. Oh, yeah. You have a lot of them. I got a lot of them, but I picked a couple of them that were interested.
I don't know which one to make. I have my notes scribbled on my hand. Well, let's go with the serious one first. Then the funny one.
OK, the first one was a rope experience. Yes, it was. And the lesson here is save the bottom, cut the rope. Yep.
Go ahead and tell that story. All right. So my normal play place is Laird Asat. Right.
That's normally what it can be found. One of the features they have there is basically an arch. It's four by eights stacked on top of each other, you know, two vertical and horizontal. And it makes a nice frame for hanging somebody off of basically.
And I had my partner Carpenter hanging from there with her wrist above her head. And I had rope basically strung between her legs. And she loves to squirm. She loves to fight.
She loves to try and get out of her bondage. And that's just a game we always play. When we play, we play, we have fun. We laugh, we enjoy.
And this one time she squirmed and did something. And that rope pinched. Her basically caught her labia. Oh, yeah.
I didn't have a labia in that hurt. Oh, yeah. She gave out a hell of a scream. Oh, my God.
I tried pulling the rope loose, but it didn't come loose. So I always keep safety gear with me, especially a pocket knife. And I'm not afraid to cut my rope. So this is more important to me than my rope.
I can replace my rope. Absolutely. Right. So I just pop out my pocket knife and cut the rope immediately and see it over at that point.
Right. Now it's worrying about her health. Is she OK in all that dark dungeon here? I am with a flashlight making sure all the pieces are still in place.
Checking the floor for people to leave the labia. Yeah, for blood for whatever. It's just like you didn't see anything, but she got a bad pinch. That boy.
So that was the end. We didn't play for about two weeks after that, because she was definitely bruised. Yeah. But first off, kudos.
A $20, $30 rope is surely not worth somebody's attitude. Exactly. The jinnas are worth a lot. Yes they are.
But jinnas are incredibly valuable pieces of real estate on a woman. And it's much more valuable than a $20, $30. Yeah. Because this was just a simple piece of cotton bondage rope.
So I really didn't care. Even if it was my $200 kimbaku rope, I'd still cut it. Because they're important to me. I mean, I've heard other dogs and tops say, oh, I'm never cutting my rope.
I'm cutting my rope. I don't care. Rope can be replaced. Rope can absolutely be replaced.
And so I just surely wanted to set the kudos. Now then, I want to also acknowledge the fact that there is an urge in some people to protect the gear. And in that moment, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I don't want to shame that moment that you're like, oh, shit.
And you try to figure out a way to save the thing. But there does come a point where it's like, that's the risk. Yeah. It's not just to you and to the bottom.
If you're a top and you have a lot of equipment, there is a risk to your equipment that if something goes wrong, you have to put in place beforehand the bottom. This person that I'm playing with is more important than this gear. It's definitely you have to have that in your head. Everything is like, I have, I make whatever.
I can replace the person I'm playing with. If I damage them, it's like, well, that's a guilt feeling you're going to have for a long time. And then more than likely, if you're more worried about your, you're going to lose the person you're with. And I actually respect my subs.
You know? Hey, well, that's why they play with you. I'm excited to hear stories like that. And once again, it seems instinctive that that's just the right thing to do.
No, it's definitely not instinctive. Just that's what you should do. It's just sacrifice your thing. First thing I did was reached out and try to pull the rope.
But when I couldn't get my fingers against her body, I'm like, OK, that's it. I got the rope. That's not going to work. So it's good.
And for those people that are playing in those situations, that urge is there. You have to talk to yourself before. That's what training is for. That's why it's really good to train with rope.
It's really good. Oh, definitely. Definitely. It's really good to know what your safety equipment is.
At least have a knife, preferably safety scissors. Either way, some way to handle the situation. And then you need to mentally walk through what happens if this happens. Definitely.
At what point do I have to push aside that protect my gear thing and do what's right, which is to protect the other. For me, my emergency kit, I get with me. I have a multi-tool. I have a EMT scissors.
I have a rope cutting knife. But then I always keep a pocket knife in my pocket. Good. And it's like, do I move the six feet away?
Take a minute or dig through the bag? Or do I pull out my pocket knife in my pocket? Yeah. And it was just quicker doing it that way that time.
Sure. I mean, if there's knots and stuff like that, you might have to use EMT scissors. But in this case, I could cut high above her. Right.
And just not worry about it. It drops the rope and done. Yeah. Well, very good.
And so you guys have recovered and played. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Years now.
It's very, very good. And Her labia is OK. Yes. It's definitely fine.
Just want to make sure it doesn't curl up when you come into the room. It's like, no, but we don't play with the ropes quite that same way anymore. You're all, you know what? Let's just, there's a Hitachi.
We'll use that ground where it's nice and safe. Nice and safe. Well, that's a good story, Joe. Thank you so much for sharing that one.
Then now we have to go. Now we'll segue to the fun one. Let's segue. And it's fun.
This is an example, I will say. And we've talked about this on the show before, Joe. When the top has a reputation of being overly serious, this type of situation is doomsday for that top. Because we are all waiting for overly serious dominant male female.
Doesn't matter. We are waiting for them to have some sort of mistake happen so we can laugh at them because they take themselves serious. So another tip. It's OK to be serious in a scene and have a serious scene.
But if you try to present yourself to an entire community as like super uber serious, I'm telling you a moment like this, I would be riding your ass for the next hundred years. But you have fun. And so this is a fun scene. But why don't you go ahead and talk about the tickling scene that went awry.
This is kind of the same thing. I had her in the frame, hands above her head, her feet are free. And when I say hands above her head, she is basically barely on her feet. And this was a normal position for us.
This is the way we always play. My cuffs that I make and I make hand grips to go with them. So she's easily supporting herself, right? No strain on her body, right?
But we had a game we always played and it's a tickle game. I took her from every side. She tries to avoid me. And we have an understanding.
If I'm tickling her, she has no fault for anything that happens. Right. It's just a really like a body bloat. I mean, she'll hip bump me.
I mean, she's knocking me a couple of feet over. Sometimes I'll poke her with canes and stuff like that. Just all different stuff I can figure out to take over with. And it's one of her love hate scenes.
And this one time we were playing. And I'm not that tall. I'm about five, seven, right? But she's maybe five, one, five, two, right?
She's tiny thing. And she flees her foot and kicks me right in the face. From the ground? From the ground.
And I remember thinking myself, and I was happy to wear my glasses that day. Normally I don't play my glasses on, but that for some reason I had them on. My glasses go flying off, bouncing to a wall, right? And I'm standing there for a second going, well, OK.
I guess that's a real thing. And she's freaking out. And I'm just laughing my head off because I can't believe she's 5'2". She's like, from the ground.
Absolutely. That is a tickle response. The worst part is I'm almost faced with her. So I can't figure out how she did that.
Literally from the ground he's sweeping clockwise. It was like, you know, something come from fighter. Oh my god. And were there people around in the dungeon?
Oh, yes. So you did not escape. No, but people understand that when we play, we play, we have fun. We enjoy ourselves.
We're not over serious. I am not dominantly dumb, man. No, I have fun. I go into play.
That's what I'm doing. So everybody's seen us play like this before. But it was just the glasses. And people are talking all this into dis silence.
And there was only maybe 10 people in the dungeon. But I mean, that moment there's dead silence. And then I just start laughing. And then everybody kind of got caught up and that moment is laughing too.
But she's freaking out because she just kicked me in the face. Boot to the head, Joe. Oh god, I'm glad she wasn't wearing shoes. Oh my god.
That is crazy. I've had situations like that. And of course, when I trained as a massage therapist, you're trained how to triangulate away from the kick. Because when you do work on people and you hit that trigger point that they've been protecting for six weeks.
And you hit that thing. It causes a jump and they will kick. And you have to learn. But there's always that time.
I never got kicked by a client when I was doing massage. But I've had to dodge. I've definitely had to dodge a few swings and whatever. And once again, that's also kind of part of the game.
And you just got to have a good attitude about it. Like I said, we have fun together. Because there was only one person there. There was one person there, though, that just gave me that look.
And he always used to make comments about my style of play. Oh, of course. Real dumb play like that. He was one of the best words.
He was overly serious. No real dumb play like that. I'm sorry. This is the way I play.
That's the way you play. Like I'm having fun. We're having fun. It was great.
I was playing this tickling scene for almost 20 minutes. And I remember a couple of people came up and said, man, that was the most fun scene I've ever seen. It was great. We had a great time.
Tickling minus the boot to the head. Yeah. Minus the digit kick. Because then you got to go and cool.
It's cool when you're playing. I showed you the splagger you said. You saw the splagger here. And it used to be looped ends.
And I tell Joe. And I'm like, yeah, I cut all the loops off because I can't tell you how many times those looped ends caught in the glasses and literally hurled them into people. I had my glasses literally go in front of people. And then you look at them and they look at you.
And you're like, can I get those back? But the bottom is face the other way so she can't see. So I can still look cool to her. I just say stay where you are.
What do you want to think about this for a second? One of the best pieces of advice I ever got about playing in a scene. If you ever drop a flogger, drop the other one. Make it look like you mean it.
Go on to the next thing. Drop it. Go on to the next toy. Make it look like you're real.
I get caught all the time. Bottoms are like, did you just drop something? And I'm like, yeah. You drop one and throw the other one down.
Make it look like it's part of the scene. Grab your next toy. You hold put your hands on them. Go have you learned your lesson yet?
Yeah, exactly. You're making fun. That's amazing. It is fun to be in the dungeon.
I do miss being in the dungeon or the club, whatever you want to call those things. And hopefully we'll get back to it. But it is good to tell stories and to get us prepared because people are having private parties with people like in their social district, other groups where everyone got COVID tested. And so they're having some private parties or happening all over the world.
Little ones, like 5, 6 people. And that's good. And so we still need to talk about things to look out for in a little bit of play. But Joe, thank you.
Would you like some journey to take home? Yes. That's my happy treat for doing this. Let's get in there and get some more.
We'll make a little get back. Thank you. Because I know that if that pound and a half bag sits here, in two hours, I'm going to be sick. Oh, yeah.
I could see why. I'm going to be really, really sick. But thanks for coming out, Joe. All right.
I've enjoyed my visit to the love locker. The love locker needs to jingle down. This is great. All right.
Live for the love locker. Very, very good, Joe. We'll see you on the next one. All right.
Take care. Play safe. Not tonight. I have a hang.
Oh, you'll never know what to touch on a boss. Talked about a lot of food in this show, Kathy. So much dehydrated ham. I don't know what to do with it.
But Carney's hot dogs. No more. I'm like, you're jerking off. Oh, my god.
My mouth is watering. Oh, my god. I can put use to that. What?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's end it up.
Sex away. Sex away. I'm like, say that. I'm like, say that.
I'm like, say that away from Ronko. Like, six away. Keep it with your rice oroni, the San Francisco treat and turtle-wex carbolish. John, tell them what he's won.
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