Here they are, with a ball of fire, if it's on trash, cause it's gonna be a freak, I'm working so hard, I'm born in a disguise. Cathy is the hula skirt, I wrap around myself. Ew! Ew!
Cathy, you are my hula skirt, going down here. I don't know why I heard about Elvis today, and it just made me think of Hawaiian Elvis, and then I thought about you being a skirt, wrapped around me, and I'm just kind of hula dancing with my fat tummy. And it's not pretty, it's not a pretty sight, but it is pretty humorous. It is not humorous, now I have this image in my head of your midsection and your groin area, and me, wrapped around it.
Just like your spine is flexible, the backwards way. I'm like a snake. You're like a snake, you're like boa constrictor, Cathy. I think it'd be pretty cool, personally.
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Whoa, my little hula hula friends, and welcome to Piverty Podcasts, the show where we explore the adventures of the Kinky lifestyle sex and the human mind. Recording live tonight, a half hour late, because apparently my boss thinks he can keep me over time. Whatever he wants, I'm Cathy. That cad, that rogue, that fiend.
A rogue? He's a rogue and a fiend, that's definitely bastard. How dare he pay me to work overtime? Oh my god, he paid you, too.
Our dacity of that fucking cocksucker. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, Cathy, that's okay that you were a little bit late because I mean, literally, I have so many little new exciting, I feel like Headly, our glorious show sponsor. I feel so excited and wonderful and dripping because there's all these wonderful things that these Piverty Podcast listeners have provided, like Nakura and Delilah have sent a lovely laptop and HP laptop that now has a working camera and a working microphone in it, which you know what that means, Cathy?
What? It means that we can now officially do a Piverty Podcast virtual munch. Woo! Only six years in the making.
Maybe just, you know, maybe it's been a little bit of a time getting that going, but you know, hey, we can do it now. I just have to spend time figuring out soon. And it was great. We talked about it, but career in Delilah, you know, they stepped up when we asked for a laptop and they sent it and it arrived today, which is going to sound weird because it arrived with Joe who brought it with the other thing that arrived today was two honey baked hams that were turned into beef jerky, a Spencer.
Leah has become a dehydrator fanatic. I think she needs to stop dehydrating things. Well, she just hates the honey baked hams and she's not going to throw away two $80 hams. Just, she's all fuck it.
So she had her home health person dehydrated. Why did she dehydrate? Once, now I've literally like eight pounds of fucking. I can't imagine that ham jerky tastes very good.
Oh, no, it's pretty good. I'll kick you down. I mean, if you want, I mean, we can work out a deal. I don't, I'm not interested in any deal you would want to work out.
We can work out a love deal, Kathy. I'm not wrapping myself around you. I'll tell you that right now. You want my little piggy?
You want some little piggy? Yeah, stop it. Want me to put my little piggy in your bag? Is that what you want, baby?
Because I'll do it. That's it. No, no, no. Wait a minute.
Why is Joe bringing you this stuff? Is he like a postman now? He's kind of like the safe place that I could mail stuff to. Oh, wait.
I just got an image in my head of him totally dressed in the postal uniform with a little bag over his shoulder. Which would absolutely work for Joe. What absolutely worked for Joe. But he is a total pervert.
And he has some great stories. And he's going to have another great story with a wonderful moral to the story later in the show. And we do, of course, partake of the ham. So a lot of exciting things going on.
I'm super excited to do a munch finally. So I got to figure out zoom tonight after you and I get off. After I get you off or something, I don't know. Hey.
Kathy constrictor, make it work for me. Anything cool and sexy happened with you? I really, I feel like last week was the first time that Creative Explorer and I got back to like our normal routine. And everything was good.
I didn't have any injuries. We didn't have any negative feedback loops. Everything seemed normal. But I don't know that I told you this.
I'm just going to tell you this briefly. We're not going to go to great detail. I'm still kind of processing it. And I'm going to maybe talk about it in the next couple of shows.
But I realized that this is completely unrelated to the Brat blackout. But I realized that I have been suffering, my life has been suffering a little bit because of the fact that there's just so much contact between he and I. And I can't seem to get back, get into my normal routine. I'm letting things slip.
I'm not getting the down personal time that I need to myself. And so I had told him, I'm going to ask you for radio silence from Monday through Thursday. OK. And it's been working really well because I feel like I've got just a sense of balance back in my life.
And again, I'll talk about this in maybe a few shows from now when I really got things straight in my head. Because right now, I just know that it's working very well for me. I've got healthy reasons to do it. And nothing negative about it so far.
And it makes our weekends even better, I think. Kathy, I think that is incredibly mature for a boa constrictor wrapped around my waist like a hula skirt. I think, well, I think it's, I mean, this has been kind of building. And I think me and the listeners have been kind of watching this fizzling where you've been kind of getting a little overwhelmed.
And some things have been jumping around. And it really comes down to that you are focusing and narrowing down that you just need a little bit more time for yourself. Yes. And it doesn't mean, and that's normal in any relationship, especially a relationship that's going on for a little while.
You have to recharge that relationship, reinvent yourself so the other person can reinvent themselves. Otherwise, what the hell do you have to talk about? You just finish each other's sentences. And it's just stupid.
I mean, it doesn't mean, right? Hey, we may even make a host topic out of it. And we'll discuss that in the future. Yeah.
Well, fantastic. Then God damn it, let's get into some other stuff. Is a zebra labia all covered with stripes? See our godly wisdom on some fucking advice.
Always be aware of anybody who's listening to us, even though we're going to be giving you some fucking advice. Just take it with a grain of fucking salt. Because Boogie and I don't always know what the hell we're talking about with that in mind. I would like to.
Why would you demote? Why would you demote our greatness? Because we're not great. We are great.
We're fucking like light bulbs in a dark place. That was so weak. That was horrible. I really could have pulled.
Even Kathy Boa constrictor was, you know, at least something. We are light bulbs in a dark place. Oh, wow, Boog. No, no.
How much comedy have you done in your life? Fuck me. All right. Well, now we suck.
Now I'm happy. Now, now we suck. Now you suck. Now we suck.
Because it's my fault, right? And now we suck because of me. Light bulbs in a dark place, Kathy. Click, click.
It's on. I'm just going to own it. By the third time, it'll probably be funny. OK, you ready?
No, please, no. No. Kathy. What?
We are light bulbs in a dark place. Oh my god. You just laid some wisdom on me. All right.
We got an anonymous email from someone. We wanted to remain anonymous, which of course, we always respect, never fear. If you guys ever want to write into us, you don't want us to say your name. We absolutely respect that.
So this is about someone she writes in. And she tells us that she and her husband are kinky, that they have a DDLG relationship. She, herself, of course, has a little side. But they have wisely decided to keep this part of their dynamic to themselves.
They don't make that public. Now they have a friend who, a female friend who knows about their general kinkyness, doesn't know particulars, certainly doesn't know about the DDLG, and is open-minded about the stuff that she does know. But this friend overheard a discussion that they were having about littles and age plate. So I'm not going to go into the details or the context of this conversation because our listener who wrote in asked us to keep this private.
But suffice to say that the conversation they were having was not about themselves. It was a general, just a little discussion about littles and little play and age play. Well, this friend of theirs had overheard suddenly exclaims that age play is shameful, it's gross, it's wrong, and it's an unhealthy way of coping with underlying issues, yada yada. And then she walks away.
Ouch. I knew. Oh my god. Here is what our listener said happened after her friend, a little like this bit of wisdom on her.
She says, my heart just sank. I couldn't even look up at her. I just responded with a noncommittal. Well, you know, it can be hard for people to be open about stuff like that because of the stigma and that was it.
She walked away and my eyes started to well up. I felt hurt. I was and still am so overwhelmed by the flood of emotions that her comment made me feel. I felt frozen.
I felt I don't even want to say it, but I felt ashamed. I kept asking myself, why am I letting this get to me? I know what we do is safe, sane, and consensual. I know it's healthy.
I know it makes us happy. Ultimately, I feel like the reason that that remark dug in so deep is that I am a survivor of intense child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual. I think it's even harder for people like me to come to terms with their littleness or general kinks or to act on it and accept it. I'm just wondering how you guys or others have dealt with this kind of kinkshaming situation.
I'd love to hear both of your takes on it. I need insight. I'd prefer that I remain anonymous. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
You guys rock my world. Oh, and boogie, ex-tweaker to ex-tweaker. The Met's song rules and is spot on hilarious. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, that's it.
I gotta put it at the end of the show now. Don't let me forget. Like, yeah, twickers never put shit away. Oh my God.
It's a little inside, a little inside twicker humor there. Tweakers make piles. Okay, well, I first off, twicker to twicker, just person to person, just an ache, just a general ache because when you have, I mean, what this is, this is a friend. So this is somebody you like in your life.
This is somebody you've probably had lots of other conversations with, you have other things to relate with. You feel there's a sense of comradity, like this person has your back. There is an actual power exchange in this friendship. So of course, when all of a sudden you have a part of you that is so a part of you, and then all of a sudden, this person that is a friend that you love and you think loves you, that you have a power exchange with literally comes at you with hate and disappointment.
Like unfiltered, that was unfiltered because this person did not know that they were directly stabbing you in your guts. So you got a not nice like, oh, well, you know, I know you're doing this, and maybe I have some concerns which a normal friend might say if they didn't agree with something. But no, you got the unfiltered hate. And that is just a blast that should hurt.
It's gonna hurt me just hearing it. I don't even know this fucking bitch. Meaning the friend, not the little, because I'm defensive, but I don't know her either. So that is absolutely okay that you feel that.
The fact that you have abuse in your past, obviously, that's something that's very sensitive because we have to deal with that, am I doing this because of my abuse? And in some ways, everything we do is based on our former programming and how we handle our life and our survival and how we grow. But it doesn't mean that it's bad. It doesn't mean that being a little is bad just because you were abused.
There's tons of littles that were never abused. Bunny has no abuse in her life and she's fucking super little. So we know, we know that. But it's, this is, oh.
I know, it's extremely, it was very hard to read this email. I can't tell you how angry, how livid I got after reading this. I mean, I had this conversation and I had where I yelled at this fucking bitch, who the fuck are you to say that anyone's way of dealing with their trauma, their past, their painful emotions, or even someone's way of expressing their desires is unhealthy. You know, if they aren't hurting someone, but they aren't committing a crime, if they're in a consensual exchange, fuck you, you stupid cunt for yourself, righteous, ignorant judgments, keep your goddamn opinions to yourself.
Don't talk about things you know nothing about. Get them, get them, caddy. I love them. Yeah, that's right.
Get them. Who let the dogs out? Where's the dog gonna bite you now? Where's the dog gonna bite you now?
Wait, wait, wait, wait. That's right, that's right. That's right. That was fun.
That was fun. Let me tell you something. If you were listening to a therapist talk someone through dealing with any kind of past trauma, and they were in their own way getting this person to dig deep and delve into their inner child, you would say that's a healthy thing. But you immediately jumped to a conclusion that what they're doing is disgusting and gross and unhealthy because it's in the context of something that you are too ignorant to understand.
Now this same similar thing happened to me many years ago when I was working at Voluntary and Threshold, and we were trying to find a venue for our yearly fundraiser event and we couldn't find one and we finally did. This person rented the space out to us, a really nice huge warehouse. We're getting ready to go and this guy then sends us a nasty email saying I just found out what you guys are up to and what your club is. I think it's disgraceful and I think it's disgusting.
I mean, this guy was a real piece of shit. And I felt very much the way she did. I felt ashamed. And it was so shocking to me to feel that because I thought I was secure in myself and I didn't understand where that horrible feeling was coming to, but it took me a while to realize the majority of us spend our lives maneuvering our way through all of our relationships in a way that we're not butting up against people who hate us, who judge us, who misunderstand us.
We obviously, it's the way we're wired. Human beings, we try and align ourselves with our pack, our tribe, people who think along the same lines, to suddenly find yourself dropped into a situation where you are no longer surrounded by those who love you, care for you and understand you. Within a heartbeat, you are now the hunted. You are now the judge and you don't see it coming and the shock that that engenders can be more than you can stand and just like her, I found myself unable to cope with it.
I started crying. I couldn't figure out what it was. My girlfriend does it at the time. Actually, I was having trouble understanding why this was affecting me so much.
So I understand exactly what she's going through. Well, I mean, Kathy, we talked about this and this is something we talk about a lot. You can go on any mental health show and talk about guilt and shame. It is the only trick that people who are ignorant have to use.
That is the trick of ignorance. If I don't understand something and it threatens me or it makes me uncomfortable or I've been programmed to believe it's awful or bad or demon, you know, satanic, then all I can do is use shame and guilt to try to alter that behavior and you take that stance. And as fun as it was to hear you just rip this chick and new asshole, I have to realize there's a lot of self-righteousness in my life. There is a lot of times where I have guilt and shame judged and whatever, even if there may have been an ounce of truth because I am mostly right, but there are a lot of times where in my ignorance, I have used guilt and shame just like everybody else.
It is a fear and it is me not being able to control somebody or something or me just not knowing about something. And I had to deal with a lot of that when I got into the lifestyle. I've had to deal with that a lot in my sexuality. I've had to deal with that a lot in all of how I deal with humanity.
And I still struggle with it. So even though it is true, it's a bad behavior. It's a bad example human, which I didn't get in my bad example thing, but it is bad example human behavior. The thing that I hope the person that wrote us understands is her job to herself is to surround herself with the people that care about her and love her and to understand what this is.
These are all normal triggers, just like you talked about. There are certain people who just have a really big red shame and guilt button and anyone can push it. And that means you have work to do on yourself still, just like we all do. The more I work on myself, the less that power exchange impacts me unless it matters.
I don't give everyone that power exchange anymore. Right, and you know, another thing is what we talked about, I think a couple of episodes back where we discussed having some kind of distance between you and people because it's not possible, even with people that you consider yourself close to and who love you and you love them back, it's not possible for them or you to love absolutely everything about each other. It is one of the harder lessons in life to learn that you need to keep some of this shit to yourself. Of course, it's like I said, it's shocking when you didn't see it coming and you suddenly find yourself in the middle of it.
But when you sit back and you look at it, you have to understand that you're not going to see eye to eye with everybody. And even people who love you are going to judge you on certain things and they're going to judge you harshly. And if you're honest about it, you can tell yourself, they will judge me just as harshly as I judge other people because that goes both ways. And if you can understand that, you can see how it's possible for someone still to be your friends.
But in this particular instance, when it comes to these particular things, you'll keep your distance. Just like when I talked a couple of shows ago about my female friend who we had a bad run in and we went into financial arrangement together and it turned out horribly, guess what? I don't discuss finances with her ever again. I stay a fucking mile away from anything having to do with money in her.
I would be hard pressed to lend her money or to take money from her. And I understand that boundary now. As far as I'm concerned, it's a chasm between us that she and I simply do not cross. We have lots of other areas where we are compatible and we stick to those.
Fantastic points, fantastic discussions. Now then, what does she do about the friend? In my opinion, if I'm going because that's a deep cut, that is something for me. She doesn't have to do, she gets to make her own choices.
In my situation, I would need to have a discussion with that friend to set that boundary. I totally understand if you think this is somehow disturbed. This is something that's actually very personal and very close to me. If you want to discuss with me why I think it's healthy and have a healthy conversation about this, then I welcome that conversation.
And if you don't want to have a healthy discussion, we can still remain fans, but don't ever fucking bring that up and don't ever judge my kink again. Right. And that's a really good conversation to have with someone. In this particular case, her friend doesn't actually know that she is a little, the other way to go is to keep this to yourself.
It's just to understand that this is a part of your life. You're not going to share with them. If it's not possible, then I 100% agree with you, but you have to have that uncomfortable situation. You have to stand firm in your own conviction.
Yeah, but what if all of a sudden they don't know and they keep ranting on it? You know, every single thing is strong and you guys are kinky and you guys are kink friendly, this is going to come up again. Yeah, I think every situation is different. In my opinion is, if it were me, and unless I absolutely have to, I got enough fucking problems in my life without inviting more in where none is needed.
I don't even know God damn friend that don't like my kink. That's right. If I will get the Kathy dog on you, I will get the dog on you. You better go.
Bite it. Bite it. That's right. Good Kathy.
We got a whole new angle to our show now. I think we talked about this in the past. Were you just going to come in with a big ass butch spike collar? You're going to fucking be like, I will let this dog out on your ass right now.
You better check your behavior because Kathy dog is a pit bull. And she will nibble your kneecaps. She will brat it up, it's so high, it will literally split your stall in half. And you will die.
Have you noticed that I have the little dog high bark and then the big bulldog bark? You got a boat on you. You are a multifaceted pit bull of terror. This is too much men.
Okay, that was a really great email. I really want to thank our anonymous writer for sharing that. That's not an easy thing to share. I hope we've given her some insight because that's a really tough thing to go through.
Lots of love. Lots of love. Herverted podcast listener segue. Joe?
Hello. We have partaken again, yet again, of the Leah ham. Oh yes, very, very tasty. Which Leah ham sounds like some sort of shire name.
It's Leah from Leah ham. Yes, but we love her on a big ham jerky. Oh my God. She really rocked it this time.
Thank you. Thank you very much, Leah Spencer. God damn it. So Joe, you had a great story.
And I think I actually remember this. I think I was at Threshold at the time and I was managing like room rentals and stuff like that. And you used to come in with play partners. Yes, I did.
And you had one experience that usually you go in. I'm in the office just working on something or I was in the love lab. And you could hear like spankings and like little moans and then some laughter every now and again. And you know, the average Joe scene, like when you're a tiger with you or whatever.
And I'm like, okay, they sound like they're all having a good time. Good, good, good. On this one day. I didn't hear shit.
I didn't hear a thing. I was like, what's going on in there? Like, you know, of course I'm thinking all the dirtiest thoughts in the world. Nope.
This was definitely a G day. And you come out and I'm like, so did you guys have a good time with like all this puzzled look on my face. So why don't you tell me what happened in this hot and heavy, you know, degrading impact play scene. So, uh, Tiger at the time was going through her master's program and it was around midterms or so.
And she was really wanting to play to de-stress, you know, from the whole, you know, going through her master's and all that. So we made a, made a date made to the dungeon and got to the dungeon and she was just exhausted. I mean, I could see, even though she wanted to play, she was just physically exhausted. You know, you could see she was just brain fried.
Not present. Not present. And we brought, we brought in some mats and I always bring a couple blankets. So we put a blanket down on top of the mat and we're going to do rope to start off with, which was our normal thing.
But you know, she's sitting there on the mat and I could just see her drifting. So you, I wrapped her in a couple pieces of rope and she's just falling already. It's just like, and this is different than her normal melting from rope. Right.
Right. This is a, this is a, I'm exhausted. This is the first time I've got to relax. Right.
Wow. So what happened to the placing then? Uh, basically our placing became after care. Right.
Basically, I untied her. I drug over one of our play bags and, you know, used it as a pillow and we laid down, took it out for about two hours. Joe, now there's, now there's a part, I think of every overdom. That's like, what, what is that crap?
But then there's that part, if you've done a lot of play and you've experienced years of play that you understand that sometimes when you go into a play scene, it's just going to take a different turn. Oh, yes. And sometimes it's like, you know, a cathartic thing or, you know, maybe they can't take something or they have some psychological thing that springs up and it's negative. But sometimes it's like this, where it's just going to go down.
Sometimes you just have to go with what's happening. And in this case, I could see she was just, even though she really wanted play, she asked to play. She wasn't, you know, she was just exhausted. I mean, midterms for her master's program.
I hearing this, one of the reasons why I think this is so great is because I talked a lot of shit a few weeks ago, maybe a couple months ago, when you came down from med school and it was the same thing. You know, she was in med school, you know, it's just like going through that master's program. That is intensity. So she thought she was going to, yeah, you're going to be asking, you're going to do all this stuff.
And then she, you know, I tried all this stuff and she's like, can we just cuddle, cut my ass kicked by school literally for months and, and that became the correct scene to have. I mean, we bitched about it and I talked shit about her being vanilla and she had to make it up on the last trip. Yeah. But I think it really, it's a great observation to see that that's a great way to either break a sub or to build up a sub.
In my personal opinion, you know, in my own humble opinion, right, you really have to watch out to what your sub is doing, right? How they are, I mean, you can have your mind, you're going to do all this stuff, but is that good for yourself? You know, you got to, you're, you're as the top Dom, whatever, you're there for their well being also among other things, you know, sure. And in this case, her well being was laid her down and let her rest because she was exhausted.
And it could have been, I mean, there's a lot of times where people push and, you know, and maybe, you know, they can get into it. If you push, maybe they're willing to just kind of go for it and whatever, but are you really going to get out of them? What you get in? Exactly.
Yeah. And so yeah, I just, I love, I love reading about that. And I love the memory of that because for a minute there was kind of baffled, like I'm like, oh, you had a nap scene. Yes.
Nap scenes are good. Sometimes it sometimes worked out. You know, like I told you before, it's like she used to drop so deep when she was in rope. I'm just, you know, it's amazing how far she'd go.
But having him rope and just see her and not the totally in some space when it's like going in a different direction, you could see there was a difference in her body and they'll look at her eyes and stuff and just like, okay, this is, this is not working today. Like you just need to rest. I can see it. Absolutely.
So going forward, one of the things that I take away from this story and then some of my stories where you've had to adapt is part of your negotiation, I think it's really good to check in before the scene. Like sometimes you negotiate a couple of days before the scene and everyone's all rare to go. That's why it's kind of good to check in the day of the scene or even before and to see, hey, is there some stuff going on? Because what I find, which seems pretty common sense now that you look at it and you get to experience it, is that if somebody has a lot of stress in their life and they're working really hard in their life, they're already getting their ass kicked.
So they may not be as gung ho for the ass whooping that they thought they were desiring. Yeah, I've always told my partners are dungeon time, especially when we're doing private time, right? It's whatever we need it to be at that moment. You know, sometimes it could be a heavy play scene, sometimes it could be something we didn't play on, sometimes we could be just laughing the whole time or like this.
This is what was needed for this scene. All right. I don't think it takes away or amasculate you or what you want because of course, just like, just like you, you know, I talk shit on the show, I need a joke out of it. She's like, I'll show you eventually I am going to get what I want out of this relationship.
I'm going to say this and I may sound like a pig. If I look, if I was in a relationship with somebody and all they wanted to do was nap, then that would be a limited relationship because I have other wants and needs and desires other than just a cuddle partner. That's not that's not my jam. I do love to cuddle.
I just I have other things I want to do. I want to be kinky and visceral and primal. But that doesn't mean I have to have that every time. And it also means that if I take that time to focus on the needs of my partner, that can only build respect.
Yes, absolutely. And further trust, which means that. Once again, like we talked about, I think it was you and I that talked about on the other time, the more they trust you, the more they end up being able to give and try and experiment with themselves. Yeah, it's like I said, originally, it's like it's important to be there for your sub.
You're there, you're responsible for their well-being and sometimes their well-being requires them to rest. I mean, I've ended scenes early before when my subs tell me, it's like, Oh, I want more, I want more, I want more. No, you're done. I can see you're done.
You don't know it yet. I'll catch up with you in a few minutes, but you're done. No, that's good. It's exciting to see.
And I just think over the course of all the mistakes I made to get to this pillase where I still have a lot of people who are going to be in the hospital, but hopefully I make less of them. And things like this, always wind up being better in the long run is when you do that. And it's not bad to cuddle. You know, I find I'd prefer to put my finger in your ass while you're sleeping.
But you know, this is good. It's a good story, Joe. Thank you. Is Game the World News A Social Enigma?
I don't know that's a task enigma. You should know because he's got the same name. Let's all gather round enigma. Enigma, enigma, enigma, we're all singing to you today.
Let's all gather round the ass of a nigg. It's like a campfire around you. We haven't talked to you in a goddamn while. How you doing?
I'm doing pretty good. Just surviving, you know, COVID doing car stuff, fixing my car and all that. Yeah, I had to take my car to a delightful mechanic that had to because my brakes were basically falling apart. You know, the whole stopping thing.
Yeah, I mean, if you could if you could pull the Flintstones move and just not, you know, as a kid, you're like, that could work. Right. You know, one ton vehicle made of stone with stone wheels just by putting my feet in the ground and not have both of my legs snap like twigs into a hundred pieces. Right.
You'd only be able to amputate because the doctor would be like, I can't, there's nothing. It's powder. It's just powder. But if you could, you would have saved money.
You would have saved a lot of money at the mechanics. I would have saved so much money that, you know, and not as much as if I'd taken it to like a mainstream mechanic, but like, you know, it's still still would have, you know, put towards like my porn money or something. So, well, you know, you got to, you got to have a car and it's got to stop. It's not, so does that mean that you made the car stopable so you could pull over and pick up the highness and do some mayhem in the back seat?
I wish. Okay. So that's a no. That's a no.
Yeah. Still, still just me and my massypertory throne these days. Well, you know, you are consistent, but the good news is is that gives you more time to research stuff going on around the world in the sexual arena. It's true.
And you did come up with two good ones this time. I will say both of these are pretty cool and interesting. Why don't we go ahead and start with the porn study one first? Okay.
So this one comes from Florida trend.com and this article is called sets on university research says porn does not cause violent sex crimes. Yeah. Celebration. Pup.
So many people around the world often use porn as a way to create a fantasy for themselves, but can the use of porn lead to issues in the real world? So these researchers, Richard Hartley and Chris Ferguson out of sets and university started looking at older porn studies on porn reevaluating the validity to what porn actually does. And they started looking at these old research studies about 11 years ago. And their current review was spurred because a lot of states in the US started to label porn in general as a public health crisis.
And these two doctors wanted to see if there was any actual correlation or was it just politicians being dumb and air-minded. And the doctor found out that most of these studies just showed the subjects or the studies themselves showed their subjects a lot of aggressive porn and very non aggressive for it and then asked if they felt more aggressive after. But they were able to find that most studies that actually showed when a population had more access to porn that actually reduced the sexual aggression of the population. So in general, the researchers in future studies hope to bring to light a lot of the widespread problems with porn research, which seems too quick to jump on results before actual research is done.
They look at, hey, this person's violent because they watch violent porn. It's like, no, maybe you just showed them violent porn and now they're kind of in an aggressive mood, but that doesn't necessarily make them aggressive. If they were aggressive already. Right.
So that's what you're saying. So the study said that there wasn't a lot of difference between the fact that a person was aggressive or if they watched aggressive porn, it was just the fact that the problem lied with the individual prior to any consumption of porn. Right. So people with sociopath, psychopathy, violent tendencies, those types of things, the types of people that commit violent acts sexually towards other individuals was more prominent than just the fact of whether or not they watched porn.
There was no connection there. Right. And it's the same argument with violent video games. It's like, just because somebody plays that thing that doesn't necessarily mean like they're going to play a grand thought and then go out and start beating up hookers and stealing cars and shit.
Like that's not sure. It doesn't work that way. I'm sorry for laughing, but it does sound funny. But what's interesting about that is I started really thinking about, you know, the environment, because obviously this is a bigger picture and blaming some individual input like video games or pornography or gambling videos or, you know, whatever is going to make people go out and do or watching, you know, movies that have drug use in them or anything that is hate to say, but a lot of times it's the evangelical movement that is saying that anytime you see this, you're just going to be this like straight, a perfect student walking down the street and then you're going to see something go down and you're going to go, oh my God, I must kill.
You know, it's just that's not that's not necessarily how it works. Does it mean there can't be an unhealthy obsession with pornography, violent video games or the such? Does it mean there can't be things that you should take a look at if you're consuming it in an obsessive way that you can't manage your regular life? Absolutely.
That's with any compulsion. Right. That's what they necessarily mean that A equals B. Right.
And there's usually some sort of like how do that person get raised? What is their environment like? Like, is it the porn or is it the fact that they were raised in a very violent household or were they kind of predispositioned to have kind of anger issues that they're finding or in other studies that are a bit more hereditary? Like what other issues are going on that would make them do that as opposed to they happen to get on Pornhub and watch something aggressive?
Yeah, like we said, I don't think the Pornhub is the thing that's converting them. It's like what came first, the chicken or the egg, you know? Obviously, you got a bad egg. Anything that they use to pump themselves up because it's true.
People use hard rock to get pumped up. People, I mean, you hear stories of soldiers in militia groups, they get them high, they show them Rambo, they get fucking pumped up, they go out and kill people. But it doesn't mean that Rambo and the drugs are, well, maybe the drugs might help. That the influence isn't necessarily the thing that's going to make someone decide to commit a violent act.
But anything can be used to pump up your adrenaline to if you've decided you're going to go commit a crime. Right, exactly. And they also point out in this article that one of the problems with this study, and it's kind of, we've seen this happen in a couple of the articles that we've talked about on this show, is that a lot of these, they look at correlation, but they don't look at the actual evidence and they just go off of, hey, these things seem to be linked and so therefore we're going to say them in this research article that they are linked and they're not actually supported by any sort of evidence. And that brings a lot more of the problems with sex research in general, is a lot of times that research gets connected to just general correlation and not actual evidence.
And, you know, as we've talked about before, like that's people who are looking at scientific research looking for actual evidence and they come across these articles that say, oh, yeah, we show these people aggressive porn and that shows that they are, and they liked it. And therefore that shows that they are going to be aggressive sexually. Well, I mean, that's what we call junk science. Yeah.
You know, a group, you know, say a religious group wants to prove that porn turned Jeffrey Dahmer into a serial killer. They did all this shit. It was like Glue Dobson or Focus on the family or something. And there was something where they tried this whole campaign and Jeffrey Dahmer's like, yes, I watched porn and now I fucking eat dudes, you know, and it was like, they said, see porn makes you eat people and they tried to show that to all the kids and their youth groups because they wanted them to not become, you know, sinful people.
Right. And so junk science is like, well, you'll go and spend a couple bucks to have a study say what you want it to say. And that's why they call it junk science because it's not clear. It's not collaborative.
And the data is skewed and the environment of the data is skewed so that you get the answer that you want instead of the answer that's the truth. Right. But so because I've never eaten people. I mean, I fucked with somebody's ashes on my dick, but that's different.
I don't, they were already dead. I didn't go make them dead because I watched porn and I've watched a lot of porn. As have I. Enigma.
Do you kill a lot of people? Not that I know of. Okay. So this is that's two.
There's two right there. That's two. That's a good study. We get 998 more and we can publish a pretty good paper.
That is a good goddamn article enigma 10 points for enigma. Thank you very much. Now let's move into the next one, which is just goddamn fun. I know.
Yeah, this is definitely a lighter. We've gotten pretty heavy in the last few episodes. So like I figured let's go a little bit lighter. So thank fucking put cheap.
So this article comes from unalad.co.uk and the article is called women quits job to earn six figures a month pretending to be a dog. So a 20 year old woman who loves to play like a dog now earns six figures by pretending to be a dog. She grows she grew up loving to play around like a dog like a lot of children too. And it wasn't until she went to a convention.
Because that's where everybody gets grown. That's right. Where she was introduced to the play scene. She first kept it pretty vanilla but she quickly found her own voice as it were as a dog as opposed to a lot of female types to choose to be kittens or foxes or other more feminine against types of animals.
And once she discovered this side of her she started playing around as a dog on her only fans and that quickly took over any other vanilla sashoos doing. Wow. Yeah, so like it goes in goes a little bit into the article where she was doing kind of the typical only fan stuff and then she made a separate only fan specifically for her pet play stuff and that skyrocketed her stuff. And this is not just for money even in her offline life.
It is a puppy being walked around a leash eating out of a dish. All of it. I am so excited. I mean of course it's interesting because like you read the title and it's like you and I and people that are in the lifestyle.
You know we just chuckle you know like it's cute you know she's a puppy and she's making money as a puppy. Right. Because we understand puppies we understand pet play. We understand the amazing psychology of being able to let yourself go in that moment and all the different you know whether it's sexual or non-sexual and we get all that and it's just so fun to see an article.
And I think the article was written in a way that was that didn't really have a judgment. It was kind of like she's making six figures. Yeah. She's making that means a hundred grand a month.
Pretty much. Being a puppy and I'm like I put a fucking tail in my ass. What the fuck. I'll do it for a thousand.
Okay. Maybe not a thousand bucks a month because that might be awkward. But I just I think it was really cool how it was it came from such a non-king point of view. But at the end it was like some people like to be dogs.
Why not? It's actually goes along with the one that you and I got a little heated on that we had a couple weeks ago with the because she goes in public in a leash. Oh yeah. But it's more playful and maybe there she's not dressed as much.
And once again it's just it's just exciting to see like you can't say I mean some people would say oh because she does naked puppy play and her only plant fans and she has a sexual aspect of her puppy now. People bitch and gripe about that because that's what people do. Of course. But in general no harm no foul.
They didn't show anything in the article where she's savagely hurting anybody. No. If anything she's actually kind of expanding the market a little bit and that's something she talks about too where kind of like the idea that like a lot of puppies tend to be in the gay male realm of people. And so when she was like started to get into puppy play there wasn't a lot of stuff for female bodied individuals.
And so her kind of her like side movement to this whole thing is creating this kind of safe movement safe environment for female puppies to kind of start coming out and being recognized as as more legitimate as probably where I'm sure she got some backlash for being a puppy and kind of a I don't know. I mean I haven't I sure haven't seen pet discrimination. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. And I know a lot of female puppies.
That's when she said that I was like is this a new article or is this an older article because I know I've my God I can't say her name on the show. But I got to play with a puppy for we dated sort of her a little bit and she was like full blown ball chasing fucking spaced out not knowing what the hell you're saying puppy who also happened to be just an incredible fucking sexual volcano of a human being both in puppy and out of puppy. So it was like I've had experiences with other female puppies to where I haven't really noticed the ratio difference between puppies and kittens and and we've had a couple puppies at threshold when we were there. So but maybe maybe in her experience she's experienced you know that it's predominantly a male thing and I'm not doubting that and surely in the gay leather scene there's a lot of puppies.
Oh yeah for sure in the article she does clarify that like her puppy play and like a lot of people who do that play like it has nothing to do with actual animals. Right. I know that that a lot of people like kind of like oh that means she'll fuck a dog. Yeah and which is hot but no absolutely not completely illegal in many places.
Can I say that a lot of fuck them. I don't care. You did just a little bit. Completely illegal and then there's a judgment of whether or not it's ethical because is the dog consenting.
I don't know. We're going to get into this if the dog mounts you it's consenting if you mount the dog it's a double standard it's not consenting but if you're laying there on your hands and knees and you go hey what are you up to and the dogs like I think I'll fuck this thing it'll fuck a couch cushion it's consenting but whatever that's my opinion that's just my opinion it's a double standard. We should probably get more into the fact that this is what's good about the dynamic of not just puppy play but little's play kinky play in general there's lots of play that doesn't include sex there's a lot of people that give spankings but there's no sex involved there's no penetration there's no touching of the genitals there's puppy play where it is literally just about training the puppy and throwing the ball and giving it toys to play with and feeding it giving it scratches and there's no sexuality the same with little's and everything and I think it's good to understand those differences and not because it's the same thing like with when I was a massage therapist the female massage therapist have such an uphill battle because prostitution was tied in with massage therapy for so many decades that it was just assumed if you're a massage therapist you'll give me a hand job at the end of your female so you got to continually fight to show people that there are other it's not one size fits all. Right and you have like domains who they're not as interested in fucking us up but they do want us up to come over and do chores and whatnot and kind of submit in that way like it's not our lifestyle isn't isn't all about sex a lot of times the the kinky BDSM and the domination of whatever is entirely separate from sexuality.
Now then in my BDSM right and my it is all about sex right I can do not sex and enjoy not sex I've trained puppies and kittens and whatever and not done anything sexual and it's fun but ultimately I am the first I like to wind up doing awful things to people consensually. Oh yes I also love doing awful orgasmically messy sexy stuff to people yes. Look this is that moment where you and I get kind of quiet and we've just now lowered our little predator lion head in the reeds and we're watching just for dear god please some willing prey to just prance along but it's not and so we have to pull ourselves back and now finish a show. I will say that like reading the article and finding out that this particular puppy is from my home state.
Oh yeah and it's like of course of course she's back there and you're here now and incredibly cute and also a puppy and god damn it. You know Enigma you know you're going to be like reaching out you're going hey do you want to come on this show you know I do and then you'll be like I'm doing the interview. I mean I wouldn't say no. Make it happen okay make it happen Enigma it'd be great to talk to her on the show and get her her point of view about what's going on with her puppy.
I will try to find out and I'll wing man the whole time for you. I'll literally just be like looking at it you'll say like cat food and I'll be like that isn't Enigma amazing. Do you see the syllables that that guy puts together cat and food and you're a puppy and sometimes puppies eat the cat food and leave none for the cat. Isn't he awesome you should you should take on his little Enigma.
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Kathy I'm still excited about you being a bit bull. I got some people Kathy. I got some people that I need to bring out the dog. Just chew on their fucking leg and make them right.
But what a great show and so much love to our anonymous poster and and just I'm excited to be a daddy. I have all sorts of issues in my life and being a daddy and taking care of little and discovering things and yes all the dirty fun to all of that has literally made my life better and has made me a more caring and compassionate individual. So I don't give a fuck what anybody says. Being a daddy and little's play has made me a better person.
Fuck the fuck off to everyone else. I am excited to be here. I'm excited to hopefully will probably start with patrons getting their munch you know because they throw in money and then we'll open up. Yeah just got to some form.
And then and then we'll open it up to the others and I'm going to do it on different time zones because we have so many UK listeners now that I want to be able to get the time zones in just a lot of stuff coming up. I'm taking not a step back from starting the new podcast. I have a lot of things going on. I'm still producing that but I am a wreck in my life and I need to not be as wrecky before I start that weekly commitment of another 20 hours a week to do another show.
So I'm still active on it. I still am getting great support. Path girl is going to be I'm going to do a segment with her because you know she's all the science person so she's going to be doing like the newer biology you know like what's the new biology of depression and panic attacks and things like that so she's going to be looking up all those studies and joining me on that. So there's a lot of good stuff coming on.
Just stay busy. Stay busy doing something that actually helps someone other than yourself and that's how I survive. So hopefully that works for you too. Let's all get out there and do something good for somebody else this week and we will see you next week.
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