That's true of the clitoris and that's true of the laptop that you have to find a big red button to make it work Correct the button makes it work, man the big giant red button. Well, that's what it says are not big giant red buttons But I get your points. I mean if you pump it if you pump that clip pump pump the clip Cat the pump the clip pump the clip pump the clip it seems like we do that type of jingle almost every other show It does like you you have a knack for finding really Disgusting and bizarre phrases that you then put to music. Yes, that is true That is a show and here is another one of those jingles right here the following show is for mature audiences only Listener discretion is advised and if you don't like it, please go fuck yourself Strange Hello and welcome to the poverty podcast the show where we explore the adventures of the kinky lifestyle sex and the human mind Recording live through Zen caster and through bookies impotent laptop.
I'm Kathy I am Count Boogie and I was so optimistic for the laptop from bakura and Delilah and it works perfectly your signals great But mine's a little I don't know maybe there's a setting in there. I gotta figure out. I'll bet you there's a setting There's a big red button like your big pump red clitoris Kathy I would never pump my clitoris. I for some reason that just sounds horrible to me I would never want to do it.
You've never you've never pumped your junk No, I mean do they make clearly no I thought it was just for penises. No, no, no, no, no Some kind of kinky person I am yeah, Jesus wake up and smell the vulva cover. Hello. Yeah, they have vulva shaped Um the suction cups just like the ones they use for cupping for the back or the ones they use for penis mumps They also have kind of vulva shaped ones that Technically you can use like the cupping sets that you get for the just the regular cupping that they use on backs and legs to blood circulate You can put them on the clitoris They have different sizes ones and I multiple times put them over the clitoris and bump just the clitoris And it creates quite a sensation there Kathy.
Mmm interesting quite well I would have to find someone who's actually interested in looking and playing with my genitalia I could lend you some cups and you could try it on yourself not an easy thing to do you can do it on yourself You just I mean the cup fits in the end of the pump and it's like a little squeezy pump and you just put it over there and go Just doing it myself just seems like I want to share it with somebody You know share my vulva with others my engorged and inflated clitoris needs to be Shared with the world the world must see hello puffy vagina Well, what about create an explorer doesn't need he's not into that or you have an ass not I'm telling you that to creative explorer My but vulva is only important to him in the two seconds It takes for him to get his penis inside of me and then he forgets all about he has zero interest in any part of it It's as long as he can navigate the outside long enough to slip in the crater then that's about that's about it That's it. I mean it could I will hear okay now. I'm working the angle always an angle with you Well, that's what I go now then we know that he is into all the like dominance and you know making things You know control and cuffs and collars maybe it could be kind of worded like oh do you want to do vagina pump control Clip thing suction on my clip dominance. No, I don't think so I try it.
Yeah, but I honestly don't think that's where his kink lies Remember about gas at gmail.com if you are somebody that would like to help Kathy in gorge Glitterous Puffy vulva I got the pumps Kathy's with chump. Let's make this happen Make it happen Kathy. So did you have any other normal creative explorer favoring sex this week? Well, he switched it up a bit and this time Tied me change me spray to go to the bed good and something I mean that's his one of his big kinks is he loves bondage and he just gets a kick out of the fact that I can't move around So that was a lot of fun and then he unchanged my legs and fucked me in my least Favorite position ever which is me on my back with you know my legs in the air.
I hate the sky Well, that's never a good position for a fat person Particularly one with a huge stomach like mine and so I love the way it feels But it's also uncomfortable and then I have to look at motherfucker in the face which I'm not very good We are so not intimate people I cannot tell you how many people I know that you're like favorite position doggy style reverse cowgirl doggy style Reverse cowgirl reverse cowgirl doggy style. Why do you like that so much some people are in denial and say oh? I just like the way it feels the other 99% who want to be honest or like I don't want to look at that motherfucker's face You make eye contact and they're like petting your hair. I love you deeply.
I'm having a spiritual connection with you right now I like how we match our breathing while I thrust in some Jesus fucking creepy ass children of the corn Christ. Oh my god Don't look at me I've had girls literally like do that. I'm looking into your soul thing and you're like Yeah, yeah, I know it's it is really uncomfortable and I don't know why and I think it's equally as uncomfortable for him because he'll look Down on me and after a few seconds he'll close his eyes and I'm like Sometimes there are times now don't get me. I'm not completely callous and without a desire to connect with a partner I don't mind a little bit every now and again like sometimes you go like all pussy vanilla and you're just you know You feel attached to the person you're with but I know it sounds weird sounds totally weird But it happens and then maybe a little eye contact and a couple little kisses and a couple little I love you's depending on the level of your intimacy and your relationship is kind of nice but like a little Little keyword little no, I totally agree I mean he's not a romantic guy, but he'll he'll just look at me sometimes I go you are so adorable and I am like you know and I blest and everything but he doesn't like to kiss He doesn't look longingly into my eyes He's just like that and the other I gotcha a few weeks ago I'm like, you know, I know that you don't really like kissing But at some point we just stopped doing it all together even though I before I used to ask him I said I want to kiss, you know, I I had asked him at first Does it actually disgust you?
Was it something you wanted to do? He was just I'm just neutral about it So I started asking him for kisses and he was totally fine given to me But he doesn't know how to kiss and I know that sounds weird But he literally doesn't know how to pucker up. He basically just bumps lips with me And so the robot that the wind up robot that just bumps into the wall over and over Exactly when he's kissing me and so I asked him A few weeks ago, hey, you know, I want another kiss And so he remembered just like I do that we used to do it more often So he's been doing it a lot lately and trying to put an effort into it Which I really appreciate but I have to say the fucking me while he's on top was a bridge too far I'm like I want to be romantic, but I'm just not it's you know what he's trying to over he's trying to overstimulate that desire So that way you'll never ask for it again. Now.
He's he's actually not that devious. He's devious in other ways, but okay that way, yeah All right, shall we begin? Oh, don't you have stuff to discuss? Well, I do by proxy.
Oh, I now I have been officially asked To share a mew potato mayhem. Mm-hmm. That is not necessarily sexual, but it was It was funny Kathy for you. So mew is in med school right?
So she's doing dr. Lee med school learning learning stuff, right? So she has to do she's learning exams and she learns how to do exams You want to palpate for things look for swollen lymph nodes and this that and the proper breathing and obstructions and you know She's got a billion of these things she's gonna have to learn over the next few years So this was one and she gets real nervous about it, you know But so she practices on her friends and her partners and stuff like that And that's what you do you practice and practice practice and then you learn all the things you're supposed to do And then you go in for the test now then in this one test she always has females So she just assumes that she's gonna get a female and for the first time she gets a dude, right? An older dude, which by the way Kathy.
This is the job I don't know if this is a job for me But do you know it wasn't in this case but do you know cuz eventually they're going to have to learn how to give rectal exams, right? You'd well who do they do that on gee I wonder oh do they do they have to do that on assholes? There is a job a specific job that they pay you the people that do these examples She looked up some of it. I go you gotta find this all out for me But there is a specific genre of a medical I guess you're like a medical guinea pig whatever person and you literally go to med school after med school after med school And you let people poke and prod you so they learn how to do it There is specifically one for genital exams genital and anal exams So there are guys out there that their entire career is going to med schools and letting people put their finger up their ass I don't think it's their entire career.
It is that is the job. There's a name. She's looking up the name for it She has to ask a professor, but they talked about it and they're like yeah There's a there's a group because they know what to ask for they know how to you know talk to the student and there's things that They're supposed to be looking for so they can say no yes, no yes, no poke it harder You haven't fucking milked me yet grab that fucking thing bitch whatever the fuck they say I was gonna say amongst these group of men There must be many of them who have an anal fetish And of course mu is like you know asking some of the second third year students So do these guys get harder something and they're I don't know we don't look they're draped and whatever But how can you be like huh going down the job descriptions? You're all janitorial it?
Customer service representative Finger up the asshole 175 times a month. Oh, what does that pay? Let's see Maybe I can do that and then you have to be all perfect I can't imagine you being like well, you know It's nothing that I'm really into but it is a job and I know it's for the good of medicine Right no these guys are into it these guys are totally like you know they have like little you know under their like dress shirt They got like a leather harness, you know, they're like in there. They're ready to go form you that wasn't this story So she'll get to that one and that'll be incredible too But so she gets a guy in this one and it flusters her cuz like for doing, you know Chex on boobs and stuff you ask the woman can you please lift your breast and you know and she'll go over the sports bra And she has like a whole thing to do checks on women But like you know the guy had fleshy man boobs and she didn't know what she was supposed to ask him and ladies Like you tell me to lift the skin and she's all okay She's all hey, can you move your flappy fucking man titty you're fucking hack maybe cut down on the chili dogs No, that would be what you would say.
That's why I would not make a good doctor Kathy I would not make a good doctor at all So so then there's this other part of the test where they're like, you know There's lymph nodes in the groin area like in the v of the groin where the leg connects to the pelvic region, right? And and so there's a lot of lymph nodes up there that you are supposed to ask if you can check and they prep her by saying Oh, they'll always say no, but you ask so so she goes in and she's all oh can I do this? You know this check in your groin area and the guy totally goes yeah sure go ahead So she's like oh my god daddy fucking daddy She's I went in there and I didn't know what to do and I was totally flustered But I saw you know the videos and whatever on how to do it And so I kind of go in there and she like runs her and she's all and it's sweaty and she's like I wanted to vomit I thought I was gonna puke in the mask and it was awful I'm just going on it on it on how it was like and then I didn't know what to do oh my God Sure go ahead. I know I would say no.
That's like I'm a professional I get paid for this I'm gonna pay for some cute little med student if I can play near my junk sure What am I gonna say no? Oh that poor girl has to go through she's all you tell them that on potato me ham I'll tell them you're suffering to be a doctor. She's all I should work in forensics with bath girl Dead people they don't sweat as much. Holly is great.
Holly is hard. Holly is sexy I need some polysanity We have a letter from Jess we haven't done a polysanity and we don't do it that often So I'm glad that we're getting back into it because for whatever reason polysanity and kink really overlap one another and a lot of kinky people are Also poly members so Jess writes to us and says I frequently listen to your podcast and I love the wisdom and advice boogie Kathy and others share on your episodes I have been in the poly lifestyle for about three years now with three very loving relationships that have developed and blossom I cherish my girlfriends and my master very much I am a somewhat assertive female with a very high sex drive and during each of my relationships nre phases sex was exciting Spontaneous abundant and absolutely wonderful sex was an important part of the relationship for both me as well as my partners However as things got comfortable. I have learned that I am dating three people with very low sex drives But mine is still sky high my partners tell me they think that I'm sexy and they still find me attractive But they just don't value sex as high as a priority as I do Being that I am poly and we are compatible in so many other ways It doesn't seem necessary and it seems a dick move to break up with someone I love just because I'm not getting my sexual needs Mint so what do I do I feel like such a shallow whiner when I'm dating awesome individuals who love and care for me so much and are so Supportive by me. I know this is my issue and not any of their problems to fix I have tried masturbation and I do it often takes the edge off temporarily But in the end I'm left feeling empty because that void of human intimacy and touch has not been satisfied I am almost sexually starving at this point and I don't know what to do please help me pee pee pee You go first Bring out the goddamn dog which by the way that has given me nothing but joy for the last week thinking about that But just thinking about you going after with your spike goddamn collar.
I want to all right first off first off To the poster please do not humiliate yourself and do not humiliate the entirety of human sexuality by invalidating the fact that you are a sexual being And that you have sexual needs because that is some archaic religious programming bullshit Oh my god. Yeah, don't do that. Oh, yeah, your sexuality and your level of horniness is absolutely fair and wonderful and natural to you So I'm not gonna yeah, I'm not gonna talk about you know I mean we're gonna get a little bit into you know some discussions about what to do and what may work and what may not work But in general first order of business you are not a bad person for being horny Even if you're in a relationship with people that are not horny I totally agree with you. I she is not a shallow whiner as she says, you know sexual ratification It's a huge part of intimate relationships and if her needs aren't being met There can be many reasons and solutions, but I'm shallow for even wanting it in the first place is not one of them.
No No, absolutely not. I mean I mean I can be real quick about this on my point of view and once again you have an established relationship with these three different lovers They've identified that they're not high sex even though they kind of were in the beginning Which makes me question some other things that I'll get to in a little bit, but here's the reality for me I don't need non-sexual plutonic relationships I don't have a need what you have there is called a buddy and you can have best friends Leah Spencer and I have never fucked not that I wouldn't fuck her But we've never fucked and we're great friends that doesn't mean we have to be in a relationship together You can have best friends you can have people that love you and support you and support you in incredible intimate ways Without being in a relationship with them and then limiting yourself to having your needs met Does that make sense? Because I don't need fucking buddies. I don't know buddies that I mean that's called a roommate.
I love buddy. I get what you're saying I love buddies, but if you're in an intimate relationship with someone the sex better fucking be there because then they're not It's not a sexual relationship. It's it's another kind of relationship and that's it's a bet you're like a best friend Which is fine, but that's not what you expect from an intimate relationship It is not a dick move to have your needs met sexually. It is a very important part of your health and your sanity So yes, so I don't know I'm all like Okay, just come back There's here's the things you have to do if you're poly then obviously you have the ability to go find partners that have a high sex drive That can at least meet some of your needs.
There are probably other Reasons that three individuals that were hot to trot are now not hot to trot. There may be other things there They say they're still attracted to you whatever whatever whatever, but there may be something there There may be things they're not attracted to maybe there's things you know, maybe everyone stopped working at being sexual Oh my god, and that that does happen and I I thought the I'm thinking the exact same thing is you that there's something fishy That does not sound right. I mean she says that sex was an important part of the relationship for her and her partners And she also says that in the beginning sex was plentiful. Right if that's true Why did they change their story once you know that nre was over and things are comfortable and say well We just don't value sex as high as a priority as you do that makes no sense that their sex just suddenly drop out of them I mean there is no way that in a poly relationship with four people everyone things have deteriorated so badly and the sex The sexual contact has gone down so drastically that uh jess our writer would say that she is sexually starved even for someone with a high sex drive There should be plenty of sex to go around instead.
I agree with you It sounds to me as if it's their sex drives that have waned whereas she's a one whose sex drive is remaining constant and it is not Fucking cool to put it back on her and say oops. Let's be something wrong with you. We're all fine It would be truer and infinitely braver for any one of them to say I don't know why my sex drive has slowed Like you say maybe I become complacent. Maybe I've fallen into a riot Maybe I've allowed myself to you know, stop putting effort into the relationship at least that would be honest There is a normal ebb and flow of your sexuality in a relationship any relationship that's gone on for a few years or more Of course, there's a decrease.
There's an incredible decrease. I mean when you and I were together There was definitely a trail off of the amount of gur and sexuality A lot of that was because of stress and her studying for med school Me and all my stresses in my life and of course when there's a lot of other things going on That sexuality does not stay as high a priority for some people because they're in defensive mode They're in fight or flight. They're trying to navigate other parts of their life And even just the normal ebb and flow of sexuality even if things are stable They can you know go up and down a little bit But ultimately there has to be an addressing of this if you're going to be in a relationship If you're going to be in a relationship with somebody I mean there is like even if I'm not feeling sexual If mu's horny there's been plenty of nights where mu was horny and wanted to come during bed and she's like can you finger me? Yes, I can that doesn't that doesn't take a boner.
Exactly. I can play I can play with you I can rub your legs. I can tell you you're beautiful and I can finger you and you can masturbate and you can come So there's still I mean there's there's certain things That you can still do with your partners even if you're not maybe as height and usually you end up getting kind of into it You know because it's fun and whatever but the idea that three people All of a sudden just we're hot and then now all of them are not Oh, yeah, there's got there's got to be something else there I know and you know the other thing that bothered me a lot is when she says it's I know just my issue and my problem to fix And I thought you know what it's not just your issue and it is part of their problem to fix You are a member of this dynamic and there's not of one of them who should be leaving you alone to figure this out for yourself Don't fucking do that to yourself and to elastor my point I'm going to turn it around and ask her how would you feel if you found out that one of your partners that you love had been Seriously struggling with an intimacy issue to the point where they describe themselves as sexually starved But they decided that they didn't have the right to involve others in their pain So they instead try to muscle through it alone I don't think that you would want someone you love to do that any more than they should want you to do that now You know, maybe I'm being too harsh I certainly don't know these people and I hope you know that they they're listening to this that they understand that I'm Only getting a bit upset here because I I don't like the one-sided nature of what I'm hearing I don't like the way she feels that she needs to isolate herself like she's a leper for having a high sex drive and fix this problem Modeling her own I mean if I'm doing this people a disservice I apologize But this is something everyone in that relationship needs to be involved with and every one of them needs to shine a brutal light on their own behavior Because if sex was plentiful at the beginning then we don't value sex as high of a priority as you do is fucking bullshit Yeah I'm excited about this this topic because there are a lot of people that go through sexual ups and downs in their relationship And like you've said eloquently Stop making it all about you. This is a relationship problem Ultimately, if this can't be worked out then there's nothing wrong You can still keep all the love and support from these people and just seek another relationship that actually Gratifies what you need right?
I don't know Well, I hope that helps even though I know that you and I tend to get all angry You know and on behalf of all listeners who write in and and You know, sometimes when I'm writing down my notes I cringe thinking what if I'm totally doing is people Wrong, you know, cuz we don't know I mean and that's the other thing that I kind of was like hinting at like maybe They're just kind of saying oh no, we still find you sexy But maybe you've taken on some personalities or traits like for me It was anger, you know, like when I'm really in a bad ragey place Nobody wants to fuck me, you know, because I have issues I'm dealing with that make me not sexy Right. So either way you got to find out what they mean by that You know, is it something I'm doing, you know, is it my other personalities that I now have for whatever reason that Are making me not stimulate you anymore? Because if you go and tease and work and do your sexy dance that should work Yeah, like you said, even with two people it could the amount of things that it could be are almost endless before people My god, it could be any number of things each one of them could have their own issues But if you leave it like that and think it's only your problem to solve and you don't discuss it with them and bring them into it What kind of polyamory is that? That's the defunct kind where you're trying to do it yourself and you're not giving them the respect to Help you and I and I mean I use those words very precisely because it is a little disrespectful To not involve your poly family into something that is Seriously harming you because no people don't use the words sexually starved lightly Those are very that's a very strong phrase to consider yourself sexually starved You need that intimacy you need that touch and you've got three people in your life Or was it three people and you're like who aren't giving it to you?
You guys need to sit down and stop talking everybody needs to weigh in and Admit to their role in what's going on. So I hope that helps damn straight Kathy This is called polyamory not solo Anne Marie There you go making up words again solo. I literally been waiting like 11 minutes to slip that in there Polyamory Good shit, so it's ain't solo amory It's hard to pronounce though, but you get it I get it Podcast let's listen. You're the magic star here.
So laris. That's the important thing for everyone to know in perverted podcast land that you are a Shining star Do you feel shiny? Sure, I feel very shiny. That's shiny like she's shiny like you just loosened up your body shiny or you know shiny like internal Motivated internal motivated shiny It's splendid that is very very splendid There was one thing that we left out when we were talking last time Which was actually a discussion that I thought was gonna be amazing and that is about your I don't know we would call it the never-ending quest of Solaris's bisexuality perhaps.
Yeah I mean I identify more as pansexual now at this point when I first Kind of came into the community and was learning about you know the different types of sexualities that people could have Pansexual was the one that resonated the most with me because for me, it's kind of about the person not necessarily what's in the external packaging But at the same time I also am the type of dominant that doesn't like connection with the bottom So of course I'm attracted to you know pretty people and you know people that just have these really cool personalities and It never really mattered what was on the outside except for the fact that when I look back into my younger years I've always been attracted to women women were the first images that I saw that I was attracted to I never really was super attracted to male photos It was always women. I loved women. I can't blame you. I just can't blame you on that.
They're pretty They're nasty look at They're really nice to look at and over time. I've wanted to play with women I've had the opportunity to play with several women But I've never really been in any sort of long-term play partnership or relationship with a woman I happened to marry a man who's queer and also pansexual So that makes it a little bit easier also polyamorous, which makes you know my quest my never ending quest easier But it's it's been a journey. So now what what is interesting about this everything that you're talking about is like, oh, okay Okay, I get that I understand that but the reality is is you still have yet to have sex with a woman. Correct.
Yeah So this has been how long has this so this has been your fantasy Uh or part of your fantasy life since you were very young you've had many many opportunities Your many opportunities, that's the thing is did I allow for the space for the opportunities to happen? Was I naive were girls picking up on me and I was naive when I was first in the lifestyle No, I I haven't actually felt like I've had a lot of opportunity Um quite frankly people Lovingly call me the queen. I can seem very strict if I'm just sitting down. I guess I have resting bitchays Um, I can see very cold very off putting as a person um, which people They get scared until they get to know me because that's not really who I am as a person I'm kind of goofy But um, I guess just my presence in general has caused people to not try to interact with me And I do think that that has something to do with the fact that or the that is one of the reasons why I have not found Uh long-term play partnerships on my own with women now.
I've been set up several times Uh for play with women in the lifestyle and it's been fantastic. It's been phenomenal It's it's a different type of energy than playing with a um a male identifying bottom But you haven't you haven't committed sexually with a woman and I know I'm obsessing about the sexual But there's there's a point to that so you had you've had play scenes with lots of women or a number of women There is a possibility that they wanted you but you didn't you didn't pick up on the cues if there were cues there And now you're at this place which is interesting to me because knowing you as the dominance from my kind of ignorant Point of you. I'd be like well just go ask someone to play with your pussy You know because you're that you're the dumb, but it's not always how that works It's not always it's not always like a oh because I'm dominant that means I'm going to automatically Be the the predator. That's the thing is in terms of starting relationships over many years I have become even more shy than I was in the beginning right um I was the girl in high school who Crushed on the nerds and told them that I had crushes on them and then had my heart broken because nobody liked me um and so I was the person that was slightly different like literally everybody literally everybody was different when they you know Everybody has had rejection and stuff like that.
It just it hit me very hard when I was young um I also was in an abusive relationship for about three and a half years between the age of 16 and like 19 so That does something to you and it One of the reasons why I entered the lifestyle in the first place and that I was drawn to it because I wasn't an individual that ever knew about it or Thought about it when I was young. Um, I was exposed to it at the age of 21 going to club dungeon Um, the reason why I was so attracted to it was that I could be the one that could be in control after coming out of this abusive relationship Where I was not the one that was in control and um, I could be the one to dictate every single thing that could happen and I didn't have to let anything happen to me Right and when when you have sexual relationships with people a lot of times they want, you know, the reciprocation They want to be able to do to you what you do to them and I just have never really been in a place where that's been okay I've had disabilities as you know I mean we talked about on your show off and on pretty bad for several years that caused me to lose a lot of weight and a lot of muscle mass and just Really crap all the time and so when you're not feeling super sexy about yourself It's kind of hard to go off and try and find somebody that you want to be sexy with sure So now okay, I'm trying to get all this data together. Yes, I'm trying to get all this data So obviously we have some pre-programmed rejection issues, which is pretty pretty common among the human folks because it hurts to get rejected Um, and then some of our rejections Actually, we need to actually walk through those individual rejections so we can find out what the core of that rejection was and that's that's also something That's very normal in recovery from bad relationships So we're now at this point to where I'm trying to get The reciprocation part so you're saying you want to just tell a girl. Hey like my pussy, but I'm not doing anything to you No, it's actually the opposite.
So one of the other things that you have to take into consideration I mean, you know, I have a lot of different disabilities. Some of them are rarely rare just diagnosed with another one super fun Um, one of the things that I have been struggling with most out of the past 10 years or so is OCD and obsessive compulsive disorder is absolutely no joke Um, and it can significantly affect your relationships in your life. Having OCD makes it very hard for me to Actually want to do stuff. Well, it's not that I don't want to do it It's that my OCD brain is telling me that if I have a sexual relationship with somebody There's a possibility that I could get sick or I could make that person sick and therefore that is one of the largest reasons Why I haven't pushed forward with any sort of sexual relationship with a woman?
That's truly the number one reason Well, that makes absolute sense that of course that makes absolute sense because when you're in pain Adding more pain on top of pain for the hope that something will be great Um, it's usually not as attractive as when you're young and indestructible and immortal and you're like, yeah, I'll just shake it off So that definitely so that definitely understands I think the overall point that I'm trying to make because to me this is It's similar in some ways, you know, because I had a lot of rejection and then I went through these things and shy and powerless and and then powerful and not knowing Where you know, so my journey has similarities to your journey But what is the most important for me kind of as a lesson Is that everyone's journey gets to be different and there are so many different dynamics That if you don't explore those things with the people that you're communicating with like I had 17 Presumptions about why you haven't had sex with a woman when we started this interview right now about 17 All of them were wrong All of them. I didn't think about you being sick and not when you get sick I didn't think about the path and I've known you for years So I know about your past relationships a little bit and the rejection and things like that But that didn't come into play so there's always things that you think you may know about like Well, why haven't you just fixed this? You know, why haven't you just done this and so many people and I have been towards myself Why don't you just fix this because there's a process to so many things and even though yes It may once you get through all those things and take those challenges and and navigate those obstacles Yes at the end there is intimacy and love and power and freedom But everyone has a different way of getting there and that kind of needs to be respected when you start to engage with somebody That's the thing is you know, we all have our individual journeys and unfortunately my journey included a giant Detour into a sickness land for a while. I I am much better now than I was even two years ago and It's time.
I mean obviously right now, COVID it's slightly more difficult, but it is time because I'm not getting any younger I'm starting to see the age on my face, which is really pissing me off and You know, I I want to be young and cute forever But that's not gonna happen and I need to be able to utilize the body that I have and the energy that I have now In order to kind of forge relationships Which is one of the reasons why my husband and I went to therapy Because we wanted to be able to incorporate Polyamory into our relationship in a healthy way. We worked with a very great therapist here in Los Angeles and In working with her and a couple other therapists over the years, you know, yeah, things have gotten better But there's still there's still that little bit of hookup and there's still that shyness that I have towards girls because I I grew up in a very Mormon family. I grew up in the Mormon church. I was baptized LDS when I was nine years old and stopped going to church around the age of maybe 12 or 13 and my family buried Mormon a lot of them and you see a new model and it's very easy to model after the classic relationship of male to female cis male cis female and I was never taught to see any other sort of relationship You're not taught like the different dynamics and other relationships And so throughout many years I had to learn that from a lot of people in the lifestyle because Relationships can be completely different than what I was told fortunately definitely There's more variety that the the Mormons aren't telling the kids.
There's definitely there's definitely more options But they do have family night. Did you guys have family night as Mormons? Occasionally That's the thing is we were like super Mormon for a short time period when my dad was very involved in the church My dad actually got my mom to go back because my mom grew up Mormon She went to BYU like she's super super Mormon and he actually Church. Yeah, super Mormon and once my dad kind of started to follow me from the church That's when I fell away from the church because I kind of saw how they treated my dad and how kind of mean they weren't to him because he was a smoker and he he was the boy scout master and They didn't like that and they treated him very poorly And so that was when it was kind of like this church may not be the best thing and then over the years and after meeting my husband And you know speaking more to the atheist community.
I'm now an eczema is what they call me I have had all my records removed from the Mormon church. I'm no longer Mormon associated with the Mormon church Even though all of my family is still associated Right, right, right Well, I mean which is another because there's a lot of people that are listening that have those strong religious backgrounds where there was so much programming That literally was just shitty programming Shame do it our way otherwise there are spiritual consequences and there's social consequences inside the church And that really can create a lot of long-term obstacles even once you get away I mean you got away from the church a long time ago I got away from the church 25 years ago 30 years ago And you still have things that affect you to this day because that was your programming And it's and it's exceptional to be in this lifestyle where we have so many different people from so many different points of view And we get to hear all the different ways to deal with it Yeah, it's been fantastic to be able to be in the community and be able to talk to other people who understand because most people in the community Are going through the same thing that i'm going through You're coming from this vanilla world into this rainbow of color, you know, kink community And it it's shocking but at the same time very enlightening because you're able to really have these conversations with people Um that you know like like this conversation that we're having that it's you know difficult I feel like it's very difficult for me to open myself up to have this relationship that i've been thinking about You know since I was very young even before I knew what bdsm was right Well, salaris as a pig I hope you get the vagina that you need as as a pig in the lifestyle I hope you are able to navigate whatever you need to navigate To get to that place of of having the thing that you desire because you deserve that Well, I appreciate that salaris look forward to having you back again on the show as soon as we can And I hope you have a great rest of your week and we're gonna get back to the show Something like converted mail Um box so I have two emails to go over We had a couple of great listeners right to us brack Which has an accent over the a makes me think that it's something from the netherlands or something But I couldn't help but when I set it out loud I went brack and it's not a tip like I would eat That was wrong with you I don't know You bark at your guy when he fucks you you make good noises You wretch people's european names It's so horrible because why people don't write because I don't even I don't even intent to I don't know how it happens All right, I'm sorry to you brack because I really enjoyed your email anyway This person said good evening I just want to tell you that I adore your show and I think it has made me a healthier wiser happier young woman and kinkier for sure She says my week will be full of anticipation since I will be trying out new stuff with a new partner I met i'm so excited can't think of anything else this new and this is to you boogie this part This new partner and I talk about you and your show all the time We think of you as our kink therapist Oh, look at that All right. I have one final email shayla wrote to us. This is gonna be good She says hey boogie and cathee.
I had a dream last night and you both and bunny and mu and del and enigma were all there We were at a poly party when cathee was showing me around the dungeon and then I saw mu and bunny and was like drool They're hot. Let's do something So boogie taught me with fire because in the movie s&m sally boogie was doing fire and that he was burned into my brain While bunny and mu played a sexy scene for the three of us orchestrated by boogie There were cupcakes involved and after we're fired del and enigma asked me to dance for them while boogie new and bunny finished the setup So I gave cathee a lap dance and del gave me a hundred dollars and enigma made it rain the end And by the way, I never did get to the sex scene because my alarm went off I was just about to say I want to go to that dungeon me too I like cupcakes Cupcakes a laptop and enigma gave her a hundred bucks. No del del gave her a hundred bucks and Nick made it rain just Watch this. This is what I do.
It's a little trick. I learned in texas Rain This is why we got that button made that said an earworm in every episode because we can't get people's brains boogie and any dream about this That is amazing and it wasn't like a fucked up dream. That sounds like an absolutely wonderful dream Oh, it's lovely like an absolutely cupcakes and mu and bunny and shenanigans and god damn I miss having a dungeon I know it's I guess this thing has to be over soon. I think I'm gonna go insane her dream dungeon is like making us drool I know I go to your dream dungeon.
Just give me I have some party passes left over. I can get in We're never gonna be able to use those party pass. I'll clean. I'm a janitor.
I can do it. I'll work on your toilets. That's funny That's actually amazing. That is amazing and all the fucked up shit that I do inside of people's head It's nice every now and again to just give a nice dream book He's usually like a dick like me would have dreams and she's been and bunny would have dreams and they just when they wake up I know just by the look on their face and I'm like what did I do And they're like well you did this thing and then you acted like a complete ass when you could have just like been nice and I'm like Dream bookies kind of a dick.
I get it. You know it's never good when you can't differentiate between real life and dream boogie because they're winning the same Wait a minute. What exactly are you trying to say? Oops.
I did what you know We had cupcakes and a lap dance and we were happy and then Kathy had to go all dark and mean I hope you're satisfied Catherine I am whenever you use my full first name. I get scared I Giraffe out Was good Just like it just knows an air with an attitude going giraffe out Buckling knees Your slams Alright, if you have questions comments or ideas, please email us at pervivar.com you can also swing by our FETlife group page and Give us a shout out there There's always a tremendous amount of love to our patreon supporters And indeed to all of our listeners as always if you think this is show brings value into your lives consider becoming a supporter by visiting patreon.com forward slash perverted podcast Kathy another wonderful experience to be with you discussing all of these things that some people just won't discuss And that's okay. You don't have to all be evangelists out there in perverted podcast land Let Kathy and I throw our lives away by saying all this crazy Hainous shit that would literally make it so we could never ever ever get a normal job ever again All for you all for all fucking three of you But we do it because it is important for us to have these conversations If somebody doesn't talk openly about this it will never become normalized people will never ask real questions And they will just keep judging and people will suffer because of it So thank you so much to the people that support this show the people that listen to the show headly our amazing show sponsor our patrons It it is so important for us to be able to talk and joke and laugh about these things because people are listening Maybe not as many as we'd like but people are listening and it does help people feel better about themselves and their thoughts and feelings that we can do crazy Dark fucked up things as long as we use our ethics and we think about the best for our partners Love you guys can't wait to come back for next week because it's gonna be fucking magical. We'll see you next week The beluga whale had a problem was a child actor, but now is an alcoholic total spoiled brat But now he's on the skits drinking stolen rum from sunken pirate ships the bottom of the glacier Looks better from the top When you shit on those who love you No one said when you fall off Who he called his agent screaming like a diva, why haven't you gotten me work?
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