297. Sauce: Bathtub Pesto & Bechamel ft. Chantal Thomas & Elisabeth Nyveen

This week, it's all about sauce! Obviously, sauce is a huge topic, and we aren't going to hit everything today. First, Tom chats with friend & patron of the show Chantal Thomas about her famous Bathtub Pesto and the joys of cooking with seasonal ingredients. Also, a quick review of the American Barbecue Showdown and the ways that we can learn from cooking competition shows. Then, Tom calls up Elisabeth Nyveen, one of the producers of October Jones & Fish With Legs, to get a quick lesson in white sauces & rouxs. Roux? I think maybe just roux? I speak french, I should know this… Anyways. Bechamels and whatnot. Also, we talk a little about cranberry sauce and whether or not salad dressings count as a sauce! Side-note: Obviously, the past week has been super stressful and exhausting for a lot of us, given the whole US election thing, so if we all seem a little tired on this episode, that's why. Hopefully you've been managing to take care of yourself through all of this, too! Remember that self-care is super important and that it's okay to turn off your phone for a bit and take a break from reading the news, even when something huge is happening. We love you! What's your favorite kind of sauce? Have you ever made food in your bathtub? Have you mastered white sauces? Did we miss something that you think absolutely should've been mentioned? You can join the conversation by supporting us on Patreon at patreon.com/upfordiscussion or by hitting us up on Twitter and Instagram @DownWithTalking! Native Friendship Centre of Montreal: https://nfcm.org/en/ Raven Trust: https://raventrust.com/ National Association of Friendship Centres: https://www.nafc.ca/en/ All My Relations podcast: https://www.allmyrelationspodcast.com/ Go listen to October Jones & Fish With Legs: octoberandfish.ca On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6KifhtPoqgJCJOke49wsXM Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/october-jones-fish-with-legs/id1534409274 Resources for Allyship: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hp7nlP5UcH63FEl1kpPgxdO7Qw7iagcCTBfOPfPLuMg/edit?usp=sharing This episode is brought to you in part by Whisky Lane! www.whiskylane.ca SUPPORT THE SHOW! patreon.com/upfordiscussion MERCH! https://www.teepublic.com/stores/up-for-discusssion?ref_id=2539 Our logo is by David Flamm! Check out his work (and buy something from his shop!) at http://www.davidflammart.com/ Our theme music is "It Takes A Little Time" by Zack Ingles! You can (and should!) buy his music here: https://zackingles.bandcamp.com/ www.upfordnetwork.com Want to send us fan mail? Upford Network ℅ Tom Zalatnai PO Box 22585 Monkland PO Montreal, Quebec H4A 3T4 Canada